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* So far most of the marketing for this movie has been playing Superman as the bad guy, which doesn't make much sense given that we've seen his heroic side already. But maybe that's the point: BvS has the subtitle ''Dawn of Justice'' and what's so just about a superhuman fighting a middle-aged man with no powers of his own? With the majority of superhero movies (especially Superman's) depicting their protagonists going up against villains who aren't as powerful as themselves, maybe ''Dawn of Justice'' is trying to show what it must look like from an underdog's perspective?
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* Humanity is so [[HumansAreBastards far gone]] that ''Wonder Woman'' decided it wasn't worth it and hung up her cape. Her remaining as diplomat Diana Prince may in part be because she couldn't go back to Themyscira with her head hanging in shame, as she willing left it in the first place to do what the rest of her people didn't want to do anymore. She's 5,000 years old, and what should have been a ''speck'' of time passing in her general lifespan thoroughly shattered her wholehearted belief in humanity. Damn.

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* Humanity is so [[HumansAreBastards so far gone]] that ''Wonder Woman'' decided it wasn't worth it and hung up her cape. Her remaining as diplomat Diana Prince may in part be because she couldn't go back to Themyscira with her head hanging in shame, as she willing left it in the first place to do what the rest of her people didn't want to do anymore. She's 5,000 years old, and what should have been a ''speck'' of time passing in her general lifespan thoroughly shattered her wholehearted belief in humanity. That's '''a century''' compared to ''five thousand years''. Damn.
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* '''Meta Brilliance:''' From a marketing perspective; The third trailer revealed that [[spoiler: Doomsday]] will appear at some point, which may seem like a huge spoiler, except the trailer also revealed that Batman will at some point be attacked by what appears to be a swarm of bug-people, so while one question was answered, another was raised.

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* '''Meta Brilliance:''' From a marketing perspective; The third trailer revealed that [[spoiler: Doomsday]] will appear at some point, which may seem like a huge spoiler, except the trailer also revealed that Batman will at some point be attacked by what appears to be a swarm of bug-people, so while one question was answered, another was raised.raised.

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* Humanity is so [[HumansAreBastards far gone]] that ''Wonder Woman'' decided it wasn't worth it and hung up her cape. Her remaining as diplomat Diana Prince may in part be because she couldn't go back to Themyscira with her head hanging in shame, as she willing left it in the first place to do what the rest of her people didn't want to do anymore. She's 5,000 years old, and what should have been a ''speck'' of time passing in her general lifespan thoroughly shattered her wholehearted belief in humanity. Damn.
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* Why would Luthor go by the first name of "Lex" as a short version of "Alexander"? The character's pretty serious and no-nonsense in traditional portrayals, but why he would continue to go by that name is weird. It's a shortening that only a younthful, smug, and pretentious person who thinks he's smarter than everyone would use to make himself stand out from everyone else. Wait a minute...

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* Why would Luthor go by the first name of "Lex" as a short version of "Alexander"? The character's pretty serious and no-nonsense in traditional portrayals, but so why he would continue to go by that name is weird. It's a shortening that only a younthful, smug, and pretentious person who thinks he's smarter than everyone would use to make himself stand out from everyone else. Wait a minute...
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* Why would Luthor go by the first name of "Lex" as a short version of "Alexander"? The character's pretty serious and no-nonsense in traditional portrayals, but why he would continue to go by that name is weird. It's a shortening that only a younthful, smug, and pretentious person who thinks he's smarter than everyone would use to make himself stand out from everyone else. Wait a minute...
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** And possibly the biggest divide of all; Batman is staunchly against killing, to the point where he retired after committing murder (or manslaughter, depending on your point of view). Superman killed someone for the greater good.

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** And possibly the biggest divide of all; Batman is staunchly against killing, to the point where he retired after committing murder (or manslaughter, depending on your point of view). Superman killed someone for the greater good.good.
* '''Meta Brilliance:''' From a marketing perspective; The third trailer revealed that [[spoiler: Doomsday]] will appear at some point, which may seem like a huge spoiler, except the trailer also revealed that Batman will at some point be attacked by what appears to be a swarm of bug-people, so while one question was answered, another was raised.
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** And possibly the biggest divide of all; Batman is staunchly against killing, to the point where he retired after committing murder (or manslaughter, depending on your point of view). Superman would willingly get his hands bloody for the greater good.

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** And possibly the biggest divide of all; Batman is staunchly against killing, to the point where he retired after committing murder (or manslaughter, depending on your point of view). Superman would willingly get his hands bloody killed someone for the greater good.
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* '''Meta Brilliance:''' ''Film/ManofSteel'' and ''Film/TheDarkKnightRises'' both set up the foundation for a conflict between their two protagonists, regardless of continuity:

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* '''Meta Brilliance:''' ''Film/ManofSteel'' ''Film/ManOfSteel'' and ''Film/TheDarkKnightRises'' both set up the foundation for a conflict between their two protagonists, regardless of continuity:
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** Superman's grieving over his stepfather led to him leaving home, discovering himself and learning how to fly. Batman's grieving over Rachel only worked against him, to the point where his wealth and physical well-being deteriorated.

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** Superman's grieving over his stepfather adoptive father led to him leaving home, discovering himself and learning how to fly. Batman's grieving over Rachel only worked against him, to the point where his wealth and physical well-being deteriorated.
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** Furthermore, Superman having an over-saturated poster on a gray backdrop symbolises his idealistic exterior masking some cold hard facts ([[IDidWhatIHadtoDo killing Zod]] and [[ILetGwenStacyDie letting his adoptive father die]]), while Batman's greyscale poster over a red backdrop represents his [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold gruff demeanour hiding a noble spirit]]. Luthor's poster has no colour whatsoever, showing that [[EvilCannotComprehendGood he's completely devoid of whatever made the other two heroes.]]

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** Furthermore, Superman having an over-saturated poster on a gray backdrop symbolises his idealistic exterior masking some cold hard facts ([[IDidWhatIHadtoDo killing Zod]] and [[ILetGwenStacyDie letting his adoptive father die]]), while Batman's greyscale poster over a red backdrop represents his [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold gruff demeanour hiding a noble spirit]]. Luthor's poster has no colour whatsoever, showing that [[EvilCannotComprehendGood he's completely devoid of whatever made the other two heroes.]]]]
* '''Meta Brilliance:''' ''Film/ManofSteel'' and ''Film/TheDarkKnightRises'' both set up the foundation for a conflict between their two protagonists, regardless of continuity:
** Batman was taught that fear=power while hope=weakness. Superman embodies hope and charges into any obstacle with not even a hint of fear.
** Batman stated that a hero can be anyone, while Superman was taught that with his potential he can be something no normal person can be.
** Superman's collateral damage was accidental and broad, while Batman's was intentional and precise.
** Superman's grieving over his stepfather led to him leaving home, discovering himself and learning how to fly. Batman's grieving over Rachel only worked against him, to the point where his wealth and physical well-being deteriorated.
** And possibly the biggest divide of all; Batman is staunchly against killing, to the point where he retired after committing murder (or manslaughter, depending on your point of view). Superman would willingly get his hands bloody for the greater good.
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** Furthermore, Superman having an over-saturated poster on a gray backdrop symbolises his idealistic exterior masking some cold hard facts ([[IDidWhatIHadtoDo killing Zod]] and [[ILetGwenStacyDie letting his adoptive father die]]), while Batman's greyscale poster over a red backdrop represents his [[JerkassWithaHeartofGold gruff demeanour hiding a noble spirit]]. Luthor's poster has no colour whatsoever, showing that [[EvilCannotComprehendGood he's completely devoid of whatever made the other two heroes.]]

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** Furthermore, Superman having an over-saturated poster on a gray backdrop symbolises his idealistic exterior masking some cold hard facts ([[IDidWhatIHadtoDo killing Zod]] and [[ILetGwenStacyDie letting his adoptive father die]]), while Batman's greyscale poster over a red backdrop represents his [[JerkassWithaHeartofGold [[JerkWithAHeartOfGold gruff demeanour hiding a noble spirit]]. Luthor's poster has no colour whatsoever, showing that [[EvilCannotComprehendGood he's completely devoid of whatever made the other two heroes.]]
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** This wouldn't be the first time this line of thinking was applied to casting Batman; when Michael Keaton was cast for Tim Burton's film, many people protested the choice, the same as they are doing with Affleck. Keaton quoted the above logic in an interview; his performance is still hailed as one of the best in the role, with most considering it better than Christian Bale's performance.

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** This wouldn't be the first time this line of thinking was applied to casting Batman; when Michael Keaton was cast for Tim Burton's film, many people protested the choice, the same as they are doing with Affleck. Keaton quoted the above logic in an interview; his performance is still hailed as one of the best in the role, with most some considering it better than Christian Bale's performance.
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** Furthermore, Superman having an over-saturated poster on a gray backdrop symbolises his idealistic exterior masking some cold hard facts ([[IDidWhatIHadtoDo killing Zod and letting his stepfather die]]), while Batman's greyscale poster over a red backdrop represents his [[JerkassWithaHeartofGold gruff demeanour hiding a noble spirit]]. Luthor's poster has no colour whatsoever, showing that [[EvilCannotComprehendGood he's completely devoid of whatever made the other two heroes.]]

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** Furthermore, Superman having an over-saturated poster on a gray backdrop symbolises his idealistic exterior masking some cold hard facts ([[IDidWhatIHadtoDo killing Zod Zod]] and [[ILetGwenStacyDie letting his stepfather adoptive father die]]), while Batman's greyscale poster over a red backdrop represents his [[JerkassWithaHeartofGold gruff demeanour hiding a noble spirit]]. Luthor's poster has no colour whatsoever, showing that [[EvilCannotComprehendGood he's completely devoid of whatever made the other two heroes.]]
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* The darkness of the teaser trailer actually makes sense. For every shot in the dark, Superman is shown practically basking in the glowing light. [[MessianicArchetype Fitting as many of those Superman-focused scenes show people revering him]]. When it bounces back to darkness, you have those who doubt his good intentions, which brings in Bruce Wayne readying himself to take on Superman. And while we're at it, who better than Batman to represent that darkness, especially considering the night-and-day comparisons the writers of their characters and fans have always made when it comes to those two.

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* The darkness of the teaser trailer actually makes sense. For every shot in the dark, Superman is shown practically basking in the glowing light. [[MessianicArchetype Fitting as many of those Superman-focused scenes show people revering him]]. When it bounces back to darkness, you have those who doubt his good intentions, which brings in Bruce Wayne readying himself to take on Superman. And while we're at it, who better than Batman to represent that darkness, especially considering the night-and-day comparisons the writers of their characters and fans have always made when it comes to those two.two.
* Compare [[http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/dccu/images/e/ec/Lex_Luthor_grayscale_promo.png/revision/latest?cb=20150325153144 Lex Luthor's headshot]] with [[http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/dccu/images/b/b2/Batman_v_Superman_Dawn_of_Justice_IMAX_poster_-_Superman.png/revision/latest?cb=20150420014337 Superman's]] and [[http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/dccu/images/6/60/Batman_v_Superman_Dawn_of_Justice_IMAX_poster_-_Batman.png/revision/latest?cb=20150420014401 Batman's]] posters. Luthor's eyes are exposed while the protagonist's eyes are torn out, most likely symbolising how Luthor isn't blinded by ideals like his adversaries.
** Furthermore, Superman having an over-saturated poster on a gray backdrop symbolises his idealistic exterior masking some cold hard facts ([[IDidWhatIHadtoDo killing Zod and letting his stepfather die]]), while Batman's greyscale poster over a red backdrop represents his [[JerkassWithaHeartofGold gruff demeanour hiding a noble spirit]]. Luthor's poster has no colour whatsoever, showing that [[EvilCannotComprehendGood he's completely devoid of whatever made the other two heroes.]]
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* The darkness of the leaked trailer actually makes sense. For every shot in the dark, Superman is shown practically basking in the glowing light. [[MessianicArchetype Fitting as many of those Superman-focused scenes show people revering him]]. When it bounces back to darkness, you have those who doubt his good intentions, which brings in Bruce Wayne readying himself to take on Superman. And while we're at it, who better than Batman to represent that darkness, especially considering the night-and-day comparisons the writers of their characters and fans have always made when it comes to those two.

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* The darkness of the leaked teaser trailer actually makes sense. For every shot in the dark, Superman is shown practically basking in the glowing light. [[MessianicArchetype Fitting as many of those Superman-focused scenes show people revering him]]. When it bounces back to darkness, you have those who doubt his good intentions, which brings in Bruce Wayne readying himself to take on Superman. And while we're at it, who better than Batman to represent that darkness, especially considering the night-and-day comparisons the writers of their characters and fans have always made when it comes to those two.
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* Casting Jason Momoa as Aquaman is actually quite fitting. There's a popular theory that Batman represents the vast metropolitan cities of America while Superman represents the farmlands. Continuing that theme, who's the best choice for an American aquatic superhero? A Hawaiian.

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* Casting Jason Momoa as Aquaman is actually quite fitting. There's a popular theory that Batman represents the vast metropolitan cities of America while Superman represents the farmlands. Continuing that theme, who's the best choice for an American aquatic superhero? A Hawaiian.Hawaiian.
* The darkness of the leaked trailer actually makes sense. For every shot in the dark, Superman is shown practically basking in the glowing light. [[MessianicArchetype Fitting as many of those Superman-focused scenes show people revering him]]. When it bounces back to darkness, you have those who doubt his good intentions, which brings in Bruce Wayne readying himself to take on Superman. And while we're at it, who better than Batman to represent that darkness, especially considering the night-and-day comparisons the writers of their characters and fans have always made when it comes to those two.
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* Why is Batman switching on his own Batsignal in the teaser? Because Gotham City has been evacuated in preparation for his battle with Superman.

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* Why is Batman switching on his own Batsignal in the teaser? Because Gotham City has been evacuated in preparation for his battle with Superman.Superman.
* Casting Jason Momoa as Aquaman is actually quite fitting. There's a popular theory that Batman represents the vast metropolitan cities of America while Superman represents the farmlands. Continuing that theme, who's the best choice for an American aquatic superhero? A Hawaiian.
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** The same applies to Jesse Eisenberg as Lex Luthor. He's the last person you'd expect to play a diabolical mastermind, which will make it seem much easier for the citizens of Metropolis to trust him. And as he's not particularly muscular or athletic, Superman would look like an unheroic bully if he ever tried to physically intimidate him.

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** The same applies to Jesse Eisenberg as Lex Luthor. He's the last person you'd expect to play a diabolical mastermind, which will make it seem much easier for the citizens of Metropolis to trust him. And as he's not particularly muscular or athletic, Superman would look like an unheroic bully if he ever tried to physically intimidate him.him.
* Why is Batman switching on his own Batsignal in the teaser? Because Gotham City has been evacuated in preparation for his battle with Superman.
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** It's not the first time "vs." can be taken to be read as "and", as Franchise/SuperSentai has shown.
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** This wouldn't be the first time this line of thinking was applied to casting Batman; when Michael Keaton was cast for Tim Burton's film, many people protested the choice, the same as they are Affleck. Keaton quoted the above logic in an interview; his performance is still hailed as one of the best in the role, with most considering it better than Christian Bale's performance.

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** This wouldn't be the first time this line of thinking was applied to casting Batman; when Michael Keaton was cast for Tim Burton's film, many people protested the choice, the same as they are doing with Affleck. Keaton quoted the above logic in an interview; his performance is still hailed as one of the best in the role, with most considering it better than Christian Bale's performance.
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** This wouldn't be the first time this line of thinking was applied to casting Batman; when Michael Keaton was cast for Tim Burton's film, many people protested the choice, the same as they are Affleck. Keaton quoted the above logic in an interview; his performance is still hailed as one of the best in the role, even in the wake of Christian Bale's performance.

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** This wouldn't be the first time this line of thinking was applied to casting Batman; when Michael Keaton was cast for Tim Burton's film, many people protested the choice, the same as they are Affleck. Keaton quoted the above logic in an interview; his performance is still hailed as one of the best in the role, even in the wake of with most considering it better than Christian Bale's performance.
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** The same applies to Jesse Eisenberg as Lex Luthor. He's the last person you'd expect to play a diabolical mastermind, which will make it seem much easier for the citizens of Metropolis to trust him. And as he's not particularly muscular or athletic, Superman would look like an unheroic bully if he ever tried to physically intimidate him.
* Kryptonian tech, including Zod's armor, was left just lying around Metropolis, where a certain [[LexLuthor high-society philanthropist]] could quite easily get his hands on it during the rebuilding. [[http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-oja4hQBYt9U/Ubk4YkGWdmI/AAAAAAAACy8/PiPldzInlRw/s1600/LuthorKryptonianBattleSuit.png That collar look familiar]]?
** And he's not the only one who could make [[http://storiesbywilliams.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/tdkr_batman_superman.png good use of some Kryptonian tech]] either.

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** The same applies to Jesse Eisenberg as Lex Luthor. He's the last person you'd expect to play a diabolical mastermind, which will make it seem much easier for the citizens of Metropolis to trust him. And as he's not particularly muscular or athletic, Superman would look like an unheroic bully if he ever tried to physically intimidate him.
* Kryptonian tech, including Zod's armor, was left just lying around Metropolis, where a certain [[LexLuthor high-society philanthropist]] could quite easily get his hands on it during the rebuilding. [[http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-oja4hQBYt9U/Ubk4YkGWdmI/AAAAAAAACy8/PiPldzInlRw/s1600/LuthorKryptonianBattleSuit.png That collar look familiar]]?
** And he's not the only one who could make [[http://storiesbywilliams.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/tdkr_batman_superman.png good use of some Kryptonian tech]] either.
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* Kryptonian tech, including Zod's armor, was left just lying around Metropolis, where a certain [[LexLuthor high-society philanthropist]] could quite easily get his hands on it during the rebuilding. [[http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-oja4hQBYt9U/Ubk4YkGWdmI/AAAAAAAACy8/PiPldzInlRw/s1600/LuthorKryptonianBattleSuit.png That collar look familiar]]?

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* Kryptonian tech, including Zod's armor, was left just lying around Metropolis, where a certain [[LexLuthor high-society philanthropist]] could quite easily get his hands on it during the rebuilding. [[http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-oja4hQBYt9U/Ubk4YkGWdmI/AAAAAAAACy8/PiPldzInlRw/s1600/LuthorKryptonianBattleSuit.png That collar look familiar]]?familiar]]?
** And he's not the only one who could make [[http://storiesbywilliams.files.wordpress.com/2013/02/tdkr_batman_superman.png good use of some Kryptonian tech]] either.
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** The same applies to Jesse Eisenberg as Lex Luthor. He's the last person you'd expect to play a diabolical mastermind, which will make it seem much easier for the citizens of Metropolis to trust him. And as he's not particularly muscular or athletic, Superman would look like an unheroic bully if he ever tried to physically intimidate him.

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** The same applies to Jesse Eisenberg as Lex Luthor. He's the last person you'd expect to play a diabolical mastermind, which will make it seem much easier for the citizens of Metropolis to trust him. And as he's not particularly muscular or athletic, Superman would look like an unheroic bully if he ever tried to physically intimidate him.him.
* Kryptonian tech, including Zod's armor, was left just lying around Metropolis, where a certain [[LexLuthor high-society philanthropist]] could quite easily get his hands on it during the rebuilding. [[http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-oja4hQBYt9U/Ubk4YkGWdmI/AAAAAAAACy8/PiPldzInlRw/s1600/LuthorKryptonianBattleSuit.png That collar look familiar]]?
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**This wouldn't be the first time this line of thinking was applied to casting Batman; when Michael Keaton was cast for Tim Burton's film, many people protested the choice, the same as they are Affleck. Keaton quoted the above logic in an interview; his performance is still hailed as one of the best in the role, even in the wake of Christian Bale's performance.
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** Kinda confirmed by WordOfGod, as Snyder has said he didn't use "vs." so it wouldn't be a straight "versus" movie.
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** The same applies to Jesse Eisenberg as Lex Luthor. He's the last person you'd expect to play a diabolical mastermind, which will make it seem much easier for the citizens of Metropolis to trust him.

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** The same applies to Jesse Eisenberg as Lex Luthor. He's the last person you'd expect to play a diabolical mastermind, which will make it seem much easier for the citizens of Metropolis to trust him. And as he's not particularly muscular or athletic, Superman would look like an unheroic bully if he ever tried to physically intimidate him.
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* Ben Affleck as Batman may seem like an odd casting choice at first - he's the kind of guy you wouldn't expect to see wearing the Batsuit. '''And that's the point''' - Batman's identity has to be hidden well, and the less likely you suspect someone of being him, the better.

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* Ben Affleck as Batman may seem like an odd casting choice at first - he's the kind of guy you wouldn't expect to see wearing the Batsuit. '''And that's the point''' - Batman's identity has to be hidden well, and the less likely you suspect someone of being him, the better.better.
** The same applies to Jesse Eisenberg as Lex Luthor. He's the last person you'd expect to play a diabolical mastermind, which will make it seem much easier for the citizens of Metropolis to trust him.
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* The film's title, ''Batman v. Superman'', is structured like a court case in which Superman is the one on trial... Which is fitting, given the charge of him being a DestructiveSavior in ''Man of Steel''. However, in some countries, the "v." in legal cases can be read not as "versus" but as "and". Which is also fitting, if this leads to the dawn of the Justice League.

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* The film's title, ''Batman v. Superman'', is structured like a court case in which Superman is the one on trial... Which is fitting, given the charge of him being a DestructiveSavior in ''Man of Steel''. However, in some countries, the "v." in legal cases can be read not as "versus" but as "and". Which is also fitting, if this leads to the dawn of the Justice League.League.
* Ben Affleck as Batman may seem like an odd casting choice at first - he's the kind of guy you wouldn't expect to see wearing the Batsuit. '''And that's the point''' - Batman's identity has to be hidden well, and the less likely you suspect someone of being him, the better.
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* The film's title, ''Batman v. Superman'', is structured like a court case in which Superman is the one on trial... Which is fitting, given the charge of him being a DestructiveSavior in ''Man of Steel''. However, in some countries, the "v." in legal cases can be read not as "versus" but as "and". Which is also fitting, if this leads to the dawn of the Justice League.

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