History Fridge / AntManAndTheWasp

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* There are some hints that Ava's father was an agent of HYDRA. Ava claims he was working to reclaim his image that was shattered by Pym, and then died in a subsequent lab accident, while Hank claims he was a spy who tried to steal his research. Unlike Hank, who has Pym particles and a fortune to fund his research, Ghost's father has no explained way to stock the laboratory we see in the flashback, suggesting that he ''was'' working for some other organization. HYDRA was rampant in S.H.I.E.L.D. at the time, and refusing to cure Ava to preserve her as a weapon sounds just like something they'd do. It's also telling that Ava's father relocated to {{Argentina|IsNaziland}}, which was infamously the hiding place for many high-profile Nazi members. HYDRA has historical ties to the Nazis.

* Darren Cross and Elihas Starr heavily parallel each other. They're both people who worked for Hank Pym, then got left behind by him for one reason or another, whose efforts to bounce back from that ultimately lead to tragedy for both of them and the people around them. If the speculation that Starr worked for Hydra is true, they even both went evil if they weren't all along as a result of Hank abandoning them. The main difference between them is that Cross was far more successful as a businessman than Starr was, thus his efforts got much further along.

* Ava's suit was created by S.H.I.E.L.D. However, since she was hired by them as an assassin, this means it's more than likely that she was also overseen by undercover Hydra operatives. This opens up a few skin-crawling possibilities:
** Since Hydra cares little for the lives of its subordinates in pursuit of their goal, it's likely that they aggravated or worsened Ava's condition to improve results in her phasing and invisibility powers.

*** Alternatively is it specifically because of the tech, or is it that they supplied this tech to Scott, who then used it to commit crimes.

* Pym shrinks an office building-sized safehouse, grabs an HVAC assembly on top and pulls it to reveal the whole thing is ''luggage.'' This has ''lots'' of implications, particularly the architectural equivalent of RequiredSecondaryPowers; how does he keep the furniture in the building from flying around inside when he moves it? How did he install the wheels and handle? Where are the water and power linkages? It would essentially have to be self-contained like an above-ground fallout shelter. But look carefully and you'll realize that the building was sitting on a ''parking lot'', complete with sloped entrances on the sidewalks. It's not a shrinkable building, it's a size-multiplied ''scale model'' of one! Hank built the whole thing at [[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N_scale N scale]], then dropped by the lot one day and ''[[RefugeInAudacity put the building there]].'' Talk about being CrazyPrepared!

* There are some hints that Ava's father was an agent of HYDRA. Ava claims he was working to reclaim his image that was shattered by Pym, and then died in a subsequent lab accident, while Hank claims he was a spy who tried to steal his research. Unlike Hank, who has Pym particles and a fortune to fund his research, Ghost's father has no explained way to stock the laboratory we see in the flashback, suggesting that he ''was'' working for some other organization. HYDRA was rampant in S.H.I.E.L.D. at the time, and refusing to cure Ava to preserve her as a weapon sounds just like something they'd do. It's also telling that Ava's father relocated to Argentina, which was infamously the hiding place for many high-profile Nazi members. HYDRA has historical ties to the Nazis.

* Scott is obviously (and understandably) miffed when Hank states that the technology to give a person wings and stingers in addition to the ability to shrink was available when Scott's suit was designed, meaning Hank just opted not to give Scott those extras (making Hank look like a total JerkAss), but there are other things to consider. Hank, as the original Ant-Man, also neglected to grant ''himself'' (the creator of the tech) these additives; his wife Janet had them thirty years ago. Pym (alongside Bill Foster) spearheaded Project G.O.L.I.A.T.H., designed to tweak Pym particles in order to grant a human the ability to grow many times their normal size, but with the side effect of vastly exhausted stamina and probable long term health defects, not to mention the possibility of being torn in half. In an emergency, Hank was willing to risk his own health and life in that way, but not that of his wife and daughter, so he compensated with the wings and stingers. He neglects to outfit Scott the same way not out of spite, but because he has such faith in his successor's abilities he knows Scott doesn't need them any more than Hank himself did, and he also trusts that Scott has sufficient good judgment to not kill himself with excessive Giant-sizing.
** There's other things to consider too: The Wasp suit can only shrink and return while Scott's can also grow. Furthermore it appears the Wasp suit lacks the ant controlling ability natively. It's possible that it's missing because Janet just never got the hand of controlling the ants and when hank revised the suit for Hope there just wasn't enough room for ''everything.''

* Near the beginning of the film, Scott is watching ''Film/AnimalHouse''... specifically the scene where Pinto and Jennings are high. Their exchange weirdly mirrors the plot of this and the next Ant-Man film, specifically the concept of the Quantum Realm:
-->'''Pinto:''' OK, so that means that our whole solar system could be like one tiny atom in the fingernail of some other giant being Giggle. This is nuts! That means that one tiny atom in my fingernail could be...
-->'''Jennings:''' ...could be one tiny little universe!

** That's probably not what the governments want. Rather they want a legal way of strong-arming people like Pym into developing technology specifically for the government. S.H.I.E.L.D. wanted the Pym particle, but Hank was able to refuse in the past; now he would either have to turn it over or face imprisonment for most likely the rest of his life. Their decision to run rather than fight the charges in court shows the two likely knew those were the only real outcomes. Also remember that Ross, who imposed the Accords, is the same man who was seeking Bruce Banner purely to gain his Hulk power for himself.

** That's not really true. Burch is specifically referred to as a dealer in black market technology and Hope's initial deals with him had her using a fake identity. A fake identity she could have used with any legitimate dealer, if one existed. Hank and Hope were dealing with a criminal because what they wanted was itself illegal. And given how previous attempts to build a quantum tunnel had gone, a massive explosion, it's not hard to see why.

* The antagonists of this film parallel those in ''Film/IronMan2''. The BigBad is someone who is against the film's heroes because the older father figure wronged their father in the past leading to them having an awful life in the present. The BigBadWannabe is just that an un-powered villain more on the business side who is not treated that seriously but who nevertheless still creates lots of trouble and who without meaning to help the BigBad get close to accomplishing their plans. In ''Film/IronMan2'' Hammer breaking Vanko out leads to everything that happens in the climax, while in this film, if not for Burch's truth serum plan, Ghost would have not found out where the lab was.

** That's probably not what the governments want. Rather they want a legal way of strong-arming people like Pym into developing technology specifically for the government. S.H.I.E.L.D. wanted the Pym particle, but Hank was able to refuse in the past; now he would either have to turn it over or face imprisonment for most likely the rest of his life. Their decision to run rather than fight the charges in court shows the two likely knew those were the only real outcomes.

* There are some hints that Ava's father was an agent of Hydra. Ava claims he was working to reclaim his image that was shattered by Pym, and then died in a subsequent lab accident, while Hank claims he was a spy who tried to steal his research. Unlike Hank, who has Pym particles and a fortune to fund his research, Ghost's father has no explained way to stock the laboratory we see in the flashback, suggesting that he ''was'' working for some other organization. HYDRA was rampant in S.H.I.E.L.D. at the time, and refusing to cure Ava to preserve her as a weapon sounds just like something they'd do. It's also telling that Ava's father relocated to Argentina, which was infamously the hiding place for many high-profile Nazi members. Hydra has historical ties to the Nazis.

* What If…? shows us that Hank and Janet’s reunion could’ve gone very differently, turning her initial ominous presence before the reveal in to a sort of FunnyAneurysmMoment.

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* Hank's comment that he ''could'' have given Scott's suit the extra features Hope received, but didn't, is funny, but doesn't really make sense. He recruited Scott for a mission that was not just important, but important ''to him.'' Why wouldn't he give Scott every advantage? [[{{Troll}} Maybe he was just being funny.]]
** Explained above that it most likely required focus to operate the wings on command, much like it does to manipulate the ants.

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* It was established in the first film that exposure to the Pym Particles can mess with your head; it had already messed with Darren Cross' head and Hank implies that wearing the suit (which features a helmet that is apparently supposed to protect the user) for a long time did the same to him. Over the course of the film, through the use of the shrinking cars, etc., Scott, Hope and Hank expose at least themselves, Luis and, at the end, ''[[AdultFear Cassie]]'', to the Particles. Yeah, Scott exposed ''his own daughter to a substance that messes with your head.'' [[SarcasmMode Great parenting, Scott!]]

* Ghost's FoeYay toward Scott is creepy to begin with, but it takes a darker turn when you think about it. Ghost spent most of her life being trained as an thief, saboteur, and assassin and sent on such missions, probably kept in near isolation to keep her existence from being known, she's in constant pain, and her powers make it dangerous for her to even touch someone outside her suit. Foster aside, Ghost probably doesn't have a clue how to interact with other human beings at all, while the nature of her abilities likely means she can't safely have sex. No wonder she's so awkward about expressing attraction towards Scott, she has no reason to know how!

* Hank's comment that he ''could'' have given Scott's suit the extra features Hope received, but didn't, is funny, but doesn't really make sense. He recruited Scott for a mission that was not just important, but important ''to him.'' Why would he give him every advantage? [[{{Troll}} Maybe he was just being funny.]]

* Hank's comment that he ''could'' have given Scott's suit the extra features Hope rescieved, but didn't, is funny, but doesn't really make sense. He recruited Scott for a mission that was not just important, but important ''to him.'' Why would he give him every advantage? [[{{Troll}} Maybe he was just being funny.]]

*** Not quite the same, considering that said tech was made and given to Scott ''before'' the Slovakia Accords would have outlawed such actions.

** In light of ''Film/AvengersEndgame'', Ava being snapped is ironically the better outcome for her as being dead would stop her biological clock. After Thanos is defeated, the Pyms can still save her.