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* So, why ''did'' the Joker kill Dick's parents? Granted the series was CutShort so Miller never got a chance to answer that question, but with everything else going on in the series, there is '''nothing''' to suggest the Joker has anything to gain from randomly shooting two trapeze artists. Then again, this is the Joker; him shooting random innocents ForTheEvulz would be valid characterization.
** If the other remarks are foreshadowing, it might mean something completely unexpected and even worse than previously thought: Batman had him do it.
* Batman's strategy for dealing with Green Lantern in issue 9 was to make sure everything in the room was yellow (even the lemonade). What would he have done if Hal had, oh say, gone outside, grabbed a car, and chucked it at Batman? I doubt Batman would've been able to make sure ''all'' the cars outside were painted yellow as well.
* So, why ''did'' the Joker kill Dick's parents? Granted the series was CutShort so Miller never got a chance to answer that question, but with everything else going on in the series, there is '''nothing''' to suggest the Joker has anything to gain from randomly shooting two trapeze artists. Then again, this is the Joker; him shooting random innocents ForTheEvulz would be valid characterization.
** If the other remarks are foreshadowing, it might mean something completely unexpected and even worse than previously thought: Batman had him do it.
* Batman's strategy for dealing with Green Lantern in issue 9 was to make sure everything in the room was yellow (even the lemonade). What would he have done if Hal had, oh say, gone outside, grabbed a car, and chucked it at Batman? I doubt Batman would've been able to make sure ''all'' the cars outside were painted yellow as well.
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* The whole story could be viewed as Creator/FrankMiller sitting down and going "would actually happen if a rich 8 year old boy mentally never grew up after his parents died in front of him and became obsessed with his 8 year old ideals of justice and law?" Going so far as to become a vigilante, believing the cops are either too inept or corrupt. Notice how he acts towards Grayson when he wants to impress him, like a kid showing another kid his favorite toys. Notice how impulsive and child-like he is? Because he's still Bruce Wayne, Age Eight, crying for his mom and dad, but they won't come.
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* The whole story could be viewed as Creator/FrankMiller sitting down and going "would "what would actually happen if a rich 8 year old boy mentally never grew up after his parents died in front of him and became obsessed with his 8 year old ideals of justice and law?" Going so far as to become a vigilante, believing the cops are either too inept or corrupt. Notice how he acts towards Grayson when he wants to impress him, like a kid showing another kid his favorite toys. Notice how impulsive and child-like he is? Because he's still Bruce Wayne, Age Eight, crying for his mom and dad, but they won't come.
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* As pointed out in [[WebVideo/AtopTheFourthWall Linkara's]] review, he points out that Batman mentions "having [his] eye on [Dick] for some time" and mentions "other candidates for the job", which would seem to indicate he had been planning to bring Dick in on his crime-fighting well before his parents were murdered. Linkara further interprets Bruce's snarls that "he'd have waited years" to imply he would have abducted Dick and possibly killed his parents himself to get him to join him.
* Linkara also pointed out that we never see Batman giving Hal Jordan his ring back. The Goddamn Batman with a Green Lantern ring...oh dear...
** If you look at how Bruce reacts to becoming Green Lantern in the {{Elseworld}}s [[http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/marvel_dc/images/8/80/Green_Lantern_Darkest_Knight_009.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20100529173519 In Darkest Knight]]... It's pretty close.
*** A horrifying thought occurs when combined with the above FridgeBrilliance and the FridgeHorror about the Green Lantern ring. Batman is mentally eight years old, afraid of nothing, fanatically dedicated to his job, unable to work with others, and has no qualms about killing people. ''ComicBook/DarkNightsMetal'' shows exactly what happens when a sociopathic, damaged, murderous Batman acquires any sort of power.
* Linkara also pointed out that we never see Batman giving Hal Jordan his ring back. The Goddamn Batman with a Green Lantern ring...oh dear...
** If you look at how Bruce reacts to becoming Green Lantern in the {{Elseworld}}s [[http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/marvel_dc/images/8/80/Green_Lantern_Darkest_Knight_009.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20100529173519 In Darkest Knight]]... It's pretty close.
*** A horrifying thought occurs when combined with the above FridgeBrilliance and the FridgeHorror about the Green Lantern ring. Batman is mentally eight years old, afraid of nothing, fanatically dedicated to his job, unable to work with others, and has no qualms about killing people. ''ComicBook/DarkNightsMetal'' shows exactly what happens when a sociopathic, damaged, murderous Batman acquires any sort of power.
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* In ''The Dark Knight Returns'', Bruce laments the death of Jason Todd, and decides to take Carrie Kelley under his wing (no pun intended). Dick Grayson, Age Twelve, may be the reason why Bruce actually develops some humanity to his other Robins.
* The whole story could be viewed as Frank Miller sitting down and going "would actually happen if a rich 8 year old boy mentally never grew up after his parents died in front of him and became obsessed with his 8 year old ideals of justice and law?" Going so far as to become a vigilante, believing the cops are either too inept or corrupt. Notice how he acts towards Grayson when he wants to impress him, like a kid showing another kid his favorite toys. Notice how impulsive and child like he is? Because he's still Bruce Wayne, Age Eight, crying for his mom and dad, but they won't come.
* The whole story could be viewed as Frank Miller sitting down and going "would actually happen if a rich 8 year old boy mentally never grew up after his parents died in front of him and became obsessed with his 8 year old ideals of justice and law?" Going so far as to become a vigilante, believing the cops are either too inept or corrupt. Notice how he acts towards Grayson when he wants to impress him, like a kid showing another kid his favorite toys. Notice how impulsive and child like he is? Because he's still Bruce Wayne, Age Eight, crying for his mom and dad, but they won't come.
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* In ''The Dark Knight Returns'', ''ComicBook/TheDarkKnightReturns'', Bruce laments the death of Jason Todd, and decides to take Carrie Kelley under his wing (no pun intended). Dick Grayson, Age Twelve, may be the reason why Bruce actually develops some humanity to his other Robins.
* The whole story could be viewed asFrank Miller Creator/FrankMiller sitting down and going "would actually happen if a rich 8 year old boy mentally never grew up after his parents died in front of him and became obsessed with his 8 year old ideals of justice and law?" Going so far as to become a vigilante, believing the cops are either too inept or corrupt. Notice how he acts towards Grayson when he wants to impress him, like a kid showing another kid his favorite toys. Notice how impulsive and child like child-like he is? Because he's still Bruce Wayne, Age Eight, crying for his mom and dad, but they won't come.
* The whole story could be viewed as
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*** A horrifying thought occurs when combined with the above FridgeBrilliance and the FridgeHorror about the Green Lantern ring. Batman is mentally eight years old, afraid of nothing, fanatically dedicated to his job, unable to work with others, and has no qualms about killing people. ComicBook/DarkNightsMetal shows exactly what happens when a sociopathic, damaged, murderous Batman acquires any sort of power.
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*** A horrifying thought occurs when combined with the above FridgeBrilliance and the FridgeHorror about the Green Lantern ring. Batman is mentally eight years old, afraid of nothing, fanatically dedicated to his job, unable to work with others, and has no qualms about killing people. ComicBook/DarkNightsMetal ''ComicBook/DarkNightsMetal'' shows exactly what happens when a sociopathic, damaged, murderous Batman acquires any sort of power.
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* Not quite in-universe, but consider that if you're not already a fan of Batman or know him only through adaptations, this is as likely as anything to be your ''introduction'' to the franchise and character; the "all-star" miniseries by the [[Creator/FrankMiller nearly-worshipped writer]] would sound like a good jumping-on point. How many people who would ''love'' the ''real'' Batman will forever miss out on something wonderful because they think this is what he's really like, not being in a position to know that this is Batman InNameOnly to the point that calling him "Batman in name only" doesn't go far enough and the main reason for Miller's DarthWiki/FallenCreator status?
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* Not quite in-universe, but consider that if you're not already a fan of Batman or know him only through adaptations, this is as likely as anything to be your ''introduction'' to the franchise and character; the "all-star" miniseries by the [[Creator/FrankMiller nearly-worshipped writer]] would sound like a good jumping-on point. How many people who would ''love'' the ''real'' Batman will forever miss out on something wonderful because they think this is what he's really like, not being in a position to know that this is BatmanInNameOnly to the point that calling him "Batman in name only" doesn't go far enough and the main reason for Miller's FallenCreator status?
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*Not quite in-universe, but consider that if you're not already a fan of Batman or know him only through adaptations, this is as likely as anything to be your ''introduction'' to the franchise and character; the "all-star" miniseries by the [[Creator/FrankMiller nearly-worshipped writer]] would sound like a good jumping-on point. How many people who would ''love'' the ''real'' Batman will forever miss out on something wonderful because they think this is what he's really like, not being in a position to know that this is BatmanInNameOnly to the point that calling him "Batman in name only" doesn't go far enough and the main reason for Miller's FallenCreator status?
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* In ''The Dark Knight Returns'', Bruce laments the death of Jason Todd, and decides to take Carrie Kelly under his wing (no pun intended). Dick Grayson, Age Twelve, may be the reason why Bruce actually develops some humanity to his other Robins.
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* In ''The Dark Knight Returns'', Bruce laments the death of Jason Todd, and decides to take Carrie Kelly Kelley under his wing (no pun intended). Dick Grayson, Age Twelve, may be the reason why Bruce actually develops some humanity to his other Robins.
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* As pointed out in [[WebVideo/AtopTheFourthWall Linkara's]] review, he points out that Crazy Steve mentions "having [his] eye on [Dick] for some time" and mentions "other candidates for the job", which would seem to indicate he had been planning to bring Dick in on his crime-fighting well before his parents were murdered. Linkara further interprets Steve's snarls that "he'd have waited years" to imply he would have abducted Dick and possibly killed his parents himself to get him to join him.
* Linkara also pointed out that we never see Crazy Steve giving Hal Jordan his ring back. Crazy Steve with a Green Lantern ring...oh dear...
** If you look at how Bruce reacts to becoming Green Lantern in the elsewords [[http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/marvel_dc/images/8/80/Green_Lantern_Darkest_Knight_009.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20100529173519 In Darkest Knight]]... It's pretty close.
*** A horrifying thought occurs when combined with the above FridgeBrilliance and the FridgeHorror about the Green Lantern ring. Crazy Steve is mentally eight years old, afraid of nothing, fanatically dedicated to his job, unable to work with others, and has no qualms about killing people. DarkNightsMetal shows exactly what happens when a sociopathic, damaged, murderous Batman acquires any sort of power.
* Linkara also pointed out that we never see Crazy Steve giving Hal Jordan his ring back. Crazy Steve with a Green Lantern ring...oh dear...
** If you look at how Bruce reacts to becoming Green Lantern in the elsewords [[http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/marvel_dc/images/8/80/Green_Lantern_Darkest_Knight_009.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20100529173519 In Darkest Knight]]... It's pretty close.
*** A horrifying thought occurs when combined with the above FridgeBrilliance and the FridgeHorror about the Green Lantern ring. Crazy Steve is mentally eight years old, afraid of nothing, fanatically dedicated to his job, unable to work with others, and has no qualms about killing people. DarkNightsMetal shows exactly what happens when a sociopathic, damaged, murderous Batman acquires any sort of power.
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* As pointed out in [[WebVideo/AtopTheFourthWall Linkara's]] review, he points out that Crazy Steve Batman mentions "having [his] eye on [Dick] for some time" and mentions "other candidates for the job", which would seem to indicate he had been planning to bring Dick in on his crime-fighting well before his parents were murdered. Linkara further interprets Steve's Bruce's snarls that "he'd have waited years" to imply he would have abducted Dick and possibly killed his parents himself to get him to join him.
* Linkara also pointed out that we never seeCrazy Steve Batman giving Hal Jordan his ring back. Crazy Steve The Goddamn Batman with a Green Lantern ring...oh dear...
** If you look at how Bruce reacts to becoming Green Lantern in theelsewords {{Elseworld}}s [[http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/marvel_dc/images/8/80/Green_Lantern_Darkest_Knight_009.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20100529173519 In Darkest Knight]]... It's pretty close.
*** A horrifying thought occurs when combined with the above FridgeBrilliance and the FridgeHorror about the Green Lantern ring.Crazy Steve Batman is mentally eight years old, afraid of nothing, fanatically dedicated to his job, unable to work with others, and has no qualms about killing people. DarkNightsMetal ComicBook/DarkNightsMetal shows exactly what happens when a sociopathic, damaged, murderous Batman acquires any sort of power.
* Linkara also pointed out that we never see
** If you look at how Bruce reacts to becoming Green Lantern in the
*** A horrifying thought occurs when combined with the above FridgeBrilliance and the FridgeHorror about the Green Lantern ring.
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** If the other remarks are foreshadowing, it might mean something completely unexpected and even worse than previously thought: Steve had him do it.
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* Batman's strategy for dealing with Green Lantern in issue 9 was to make sure everything in the room was yellow (even the lemonade). What would he have done if Hal had, oh say, gone outside, grabbed a car, and chucked it at Batman? I doubt Batman would've been able to make sure ''all'' the cars outside were painted yellow as well.
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** If the other remarks are foreshadowing, it might mean something completely unexpected and even worse than previously thought: Steve had him do it.
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* As pointed out in [[WebVideo/AtopTheFourthWall Linkara's]] review, he points out that Crazy Steve sounded like he was going to kidnap Dick Grayson (Age Twelve) regardless of his parents being alive.
** Not just that - Linkara also points out that Crazy Steve sounds like he was so desperate to get Dick to become his ward, that he would have ''killed the boy's parents himself if the assassin hadn't beat him to it''.
** Not just that - Linkara also points out that Crazy Steve sounds like he was so desperate to get Dick to become his ward, that he would have ''killed the boy's parents himself if the assassin hadn't beat him to it''.
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* As pointed out in [[WebVideo/AtopTheFourthWall Linkara's]] review, he points out that Crazy Steve sounded like mentions "having [his] eye on [Dick] for some time" and mentions "other candidates for the job", which would seem to indicate he was going had been planning to kidnap bring Dick Grayson (Age Twelve) regardless of in on his crime-fighting well before his parents being alive.
** Not just that -were murdered. Linkara also points out further interprets Steve's snarls that Crazy Steve sounds like he was so desperate "he'd have waited years" to get Dick to become his ward, that imply he would have ''killed the boy's abducted Dick and possibly killed his parents himself if the assassin hadn't beat to get him to it''. join him.
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* So, why ''did'' the Joker kill Dick's parents? Granted the series was CutShort so Miller never got a chance to answer that question, but with everything else going on in the series, there is '''nothing''' to suggest the Joker has anything to gain from randomly shooting two trapeze artists. Then again, this is the Joker; him shooting random innocents ForTheEvulz would be valid characterization.
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*** Horror made real when combined with the above FridgeBrilliance that Bruce is mentally age 8, have no fear, too dedicated, inability to work with others, and no qualm to kill people: give this boy the Green lantern ring and you have Dawnbreaker. Give Crazy Steve speedforce and you have Red Death. Give him Atlatean gene and you have The Drowned. Give him the helmet of Ares and you have Merciless. Inject him with Doomsday Virus created a swearing Devastator. Actually killed Joker transform him to Batman who Laughs All can be seen in horrifying action in DarkNightsMetal.
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*** Horror made real A horrifying thought occurs when combined with the above FridgeBrilliance that Bruce and the FridgeHorror about the Green Lantern ring. Crazy Steve is mentally age 8, have no fear, too dedicated, inability eight years old, afraid of nothing, fanatically dedicated to his job, unable to work with others, and has no qualm to kill people: give this boy the Green lantern ring and you have Dawnbreaker. Give Crazy Steve speedforce and you have Red Death. Give him Atlatean gene and you have The Drowned. Give him the helmet of Ares and you have Merciless. Inject him with Doomsday Virus created qualms about killing people. DarkNightsMetal shows exactly what happens when a swearing Devastator. Actually killed Joker transform him to sociopathic, damaged, murderous Batman who Laughs All can be seen in horrifying action in DarkNightsMetal.acquires any sort of power.
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*** Horror made real when combined with the above FridgeBrilliance that Bruce is mentally age 8, have no fear, too dedicated, inability to work with others, and no qualm to kill people: give this boy the Green lantern ring and you have Dawnbreaker. Give Crazy Steve speedforce and you have Red Death. Give him Atlatean gene and you have The Drowned. Give him the helmet of Ares and you have Merciless. Inject him (or Earth -1 Batman) give a swearing Devastator. All can be seen in horrifying action in DarkNightsMetal.
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*** Horror made real when combined with the above FridgeBrilliance that Bruce is mentally age 8, have no fear, too dedicated, inability to work with others, and no qualm to kill people: give this boy the Green lantern ring and you have Dawnbreaker. Give Crazy Steve speedforce and you have Red Death. Give him Atlatean gene and you have The Drowned. Give him the helmet of Ares and you have Merciless. Inject him (or Earth -1 Batman) give with Doomsday Virus created a swearing Devastator. Actually killed Joker transform him to Batman who Laughs All can be seen in horrifying action in DarkNightsMetal.
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*** Horror made real when combined with the above FridgeBrilliance that Bruce is mentally age 8, have no fear, too dedicated, inability to work with others, and no qualm to kill people: give this boy the Green lantern ring and you have Dawnbreaker. Give Crazy Steve speedforce and you have Red Death. Give him Atlatean gene and you have The Drowned. Give him the helmet of Area and you have Merciless. All can be seen in horrifying action in DarkNightsMetal.
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*** Horror made real when combined with the above FridgeBrilliance that Bruce is mentally age 8, have no fear, too dedicated, inability to work with others, and no qualm to kill people: give this boy the Green lantern ring and you have Dawnbreaker. Give Crazy Steve speedforce and you have Red Death. Give him Atlatean gene and you have The Drowned. Give him the helmet of Area Ares and you have Merciless.Merciless. Inject him (or Earth -1 Batman) give a swearing Devastator. All can be seen in horrifying action in DarkNightsMetal.
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*** Horror made real when combined with the above FridgeBrilliance that Bruce is mentally age 8, have no fear, and no qualm to kill people: give this boy the Green lantern ring and you have Dawnbreaker. Give Crazy Steve speedforce and you have Red Death. All can be seen in horrifying action in DarkNightsMetal.
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*** Horror made real when combined with the above FridgeBrilliance that Bruce is mentally age 8, have no fear, too dedicated, inability to work with others, and no qualm to kill people: give this boy the Green lantern ring and you have Dawnbreaker. Give Crazy Steve speedforce and you have Red Death. Give him Atlatean gene and you have The Drowned. Give him the helmet of Area and you have Merciless. All can be seen in horrifying action in DarkNightsMetal.
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*** Horror made real when combined with the above FridgeBrilliance that Bruce is mentally age 8, have no fear, and no qualm to kill people: give this boy the Green lantern ring and you have Dawnbreaker. Give Crazy Steve speedforce and you have Red Death. All can be seen in horrifying action in DarkNightsMetal.
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* As pointed out in [[WebVideo/AtopTheFourthWall Linkara's]] review, he points out that Crazy Steve sounded like he was going to kidnap Dick Grayson (Age Twelve) regardless of his parents being alive.
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* The whole story could be viewed as Frank Miller sitting down and going "would actually happen if a rich 8 year old boy mentally never grew up after his parents died in front of him and became obsessed with his 8 year old ideals of justice and law?" Going so far as to become a vigilante, believing the cops are either too inept or corrupt. Notice how he acts towards Grayson when he wants to impress him, like a kid showing another kid his favorite toys. Notice how impulsive and child like he is? Because he's still Bruce Wayne, Age Eight, crying for his mom and dad, but they won't come.
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* Batman smashes the Batmobile through cop cars, delivers a flying kick hard enough to break glass to an officer's jaw, and sets criminals on fire with thermite. There is simply no way these people are living through the night, and if they do they are certainly going to be disabled for life at least.
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** Not just that - Linkara also points out that [[DetractorNickname Crazy Steve]] sounds like he was so desperate to get Dick to become his ward, that he would have ''killed the boy's parents himself if the assassin hadn't beat him to it''.
** Not just that - Linkara also points out that [[DetractorNickname Crazy Steve]] sounds like he was so desperate to get Dick to become his ward, that he would have ''killed the boy's parents himself if the assassin hadn't beat him to it''.
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* As pointed out in [[WebOriginal/AtopTheFourthWall Linkara's]] review, he points out that [[DetractorNickname Crazy Steve]] Steve sounded like he was going to kidnap Dick Grayson regardless of his parents being alive.
** Not just that - Linkara also points out that[[DetractorNickname Crazy Steve]] Steve sounds like he was so desperate to get Dick to become his ward, that he would have ''killed the boy's parents himself if the assassin hadn't beat him to it''.
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* As pointed out in [[AtopTheFourthWall [[WebOriginal/AtopTheFourthWall Linkara's]] review, he points out that [[DetractorNickname Crazy Steve]] sounded like he was going to kidnap Dick Grayson regardless of his parents being alive.