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* FauxAffablyEvil: Fletcher is practically obsessed with giving his musicians a HopeSpot or two before shifting into all-out verbal and occasionally physical abuse. He even maintains a friendly facade with the audience by insisting that he views his students as his children, a statement that is... questionable in truthfulness at best.
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* FauxAffablyEvil: Fletcher is practically obsessed with giving his musicians a HopeSpot or two before shifting into all-out verbal and occasionally physical abuse. He [[spoiler:He will also happily manipulate and trap those who screw him over to bury their careers before they even maintains a friendly facade with the audience by insisting that he views his students as his children, a statement that is... questionable in truthfulness at best. began.]]
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* PoliticallyIncorrectVillain: Fletcher is not above comparing Neyman to a little girl or a homosexual when attempting to belittle him.
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* PoliticallyIncorrectVillain: Fletcher is not above comparing Neyman to a little girl or a homosexual when attempting using anti-semetic insults against him. Fletcher also delivers more than his fair share of homophobic or anti-Irish epithets to belittle him.Tanner and Donnelly respectively.
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* WhamLine: Fletcher drops a bomb to Andrew near the climax of the movie. [[spoiler:"[[DangerouslyGenreSavvy You think I'm fucking stupid? I knew it was you...]]"
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* TheDeterminator: Andrew and Fletcher each fulfill this to some extent. Andrew, in his attempts to fully access his potential as a drummer (to the point that he regularly bloodies his hands from wearing on them so often during practice); Fletcher, in how driven he is to motivate his students to succeed, [[spoiler: even keeping Andrew and 2 fellow students isolated from the rest of the band for hours so that they can match his tempo in a harsh bit of practice]].
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* TheDeterminator: Andrew and Fletcher each fulfill this to some extent. Andrew, in his attempts to fully access his potential as a drummer (to the point that he regularly bloodies his hands from wearing on them so often during practice); Fletcher, in how driven he is to motivate his students to succeed, find a great musician, [[spoiler: even keeping Andrew and 2 fellow students isolated from the rest of the band for hours so that they can match his tempo in a harsh bit of practice]].
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* DangerouslyGenreSavvy: Terence Fletcher. He intentionally invites Andrew to his new band [[spoiler:after being fired from Shaffer, knowing ''full well'' that A. Andrew was the witness who got him fired and B. Andrew is so driven to become successful that he would let his guard down. It is not until just before the final performance when Fletcher revealed his real intentions of letting Andrew into his new band.]]
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* DangerouslyGenreSavvy: Terence Fletcher. He intentionally invites Andrew to his new band [[spoiler:after being fired from Shaffer, knowing ''full well'' that A. [[KnewItAllAlong Andrew was the witness who got him fired fired]] and B. Andrew is so driven to become successful that he would let his guard down. It is not until just before the final performance when Fletcher revealed his real intentions of letting Andrew into his new band.]]
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* DangerouslyGenreSavvy: Terence Fletcher. He intentionally invites Andrew to his new band [[spoiler:after being fired from Shaffer, knowing ''full well'' that A. Andrew was the witness who got him fired and B. Andrew is so driven to become successful that he would let his guard down. It is not until just before the final performance when Fletcher revealed his real intentions of letting Andrew into his new band.]]
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* FauxAffablyEvil: Fletcher is practically obsessed with giving his musicians a HopeSpot or two before shifting into all-out verbal and occasionally physical abuse. He even maintains a friendly facade with the audience by insisting that he views his students as his children, a statement that is... questionable in truthfulness at best.
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* WorthyOpponent: [[spoiler:Andrew's final performance drives Fletcher to tears along with a nod of approval.]]
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* WorthyOpponent: [[spoiler:Andrew's final performance drives Fletcher to tears along with a nod of approval. WordOfGod argues that Fletcher thinks he beat Andrew in the end, however...]]
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* BittersweetEnding: [[spoiler:Andrew finishes his CrowningMusicOfAwesome and finally wins over Fletcher, with the latter finally convinced he'll be one of the greats.]] However, Andrew endures losing his girlfriend and almost everything else in his personal life in order to get there. Moreover, the viewer is left to wonder whether the final performance ultimately justifies Fletcher's abuse throughout the film and if Andrew's effort was really worth it.
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* BittersweetEnding: [[spoiler:Andrew finishes his CrowningMusicOfAwesome and finally wins over Fletcher, with the latter finally convinced he'll be one of the greats.]] However, Andrew endures losing his girlfriend and almost everything else in his personal life in order to get there. Moreover, the viewer is left to wonder whether the [[spoiler:the final performance performance]] ultimately justifies Fletcher's abuse throughout the film and if Andrew's effort was really worth it.
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Moving to the new Trivia tab.
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* BittersweetEnding: [[spoiler:Andrew finishes his CrowningMusicOfAwesome and finally wins over Fletcher, with the latter finally convinced he'll be one of the greats. However, Andrew endures losing his girlfriend and almost everything else in his personal life in order to finally be accepted by Fletcher. Moreover, the viewer is left to wonder whether the final performance ultimately justifies Fletcher's abuse throughout the film.]]
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* TheBadGuyWins: According to the director, [[spoiler:the ending implies that Andrew becomes a shell of himself and that his efforts to impress Fletcher were never worth it]]. See WordOfGod in the Trivia tab for further details.
* BittersweetEnding: [[spoiler:Andrew finishes his CrowningMusicOfAwesome and finally wins over Fletcher, with the latter finally convinced he'll be one of the greats. ]] However, Andrew endures losing his girlfriend and almost everything else in his personal life in order to finally be accepted by Fletcher. get there. Moreover, the viewer is left to wonder whether the final performance ultimately justifies Fletcher's abuse throughout the film.]]film and if Andrew's effort was really worth it.
* BittersweetEnding: [[spoiler:Andrew finishes his CrowningMusicOfAwesome and finally wins over Fletcher, with the latter finally convinced he'll be one of the greats.
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* EnforcedMethodActing: In one scene Fletcher repeatedly slaps Andrew while making him do a four count and trying to get him to figure out if Andrew's tempo was too slow or too fast. The actors, after doing a few takes where Simmons only mock slapped Teller, decided to do one take where Simmons slapped him for real. That was the take they used.
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* EnforcedMethodActing: In one scene Fletcher repeatedly slaps Andrew while making him do a four count and trying to get him to figure out if Andrew's tempo was too slow or too fast. The actors, after doing a few takes where Simmons only mock slapped Teller, decided to do one take where Simmons slapped him for real. That was the take they used.
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* EnforcedMethodActing: In one scene Fletcher repeatedly slaps Andrew while making him do a four count and trying to get him to figure out if Andrew's tempo was too slow or too fast. The actors, after doing a few takes where Simmons only mock slapped Teller, decided to do one take where Simmons slapped him for real. That was the take they used.
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* HopeSpot: Fletcher tortures his musicians with these, offering a bit of praise or encouragement, only to immediately shift into his usual abusive method of teaching. Andrew discovers this on his first day with the Studio Band.
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* HopeSpot: Fletcher tortures his musicians with these, offering a bit of praise or encouragement, only to immediately shift into his usual abusive method of teaching. Andrew discovers this on his first day with the Studio Band.
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* EnforcedMethodActing: In one scene Fletcher repeatedly slaps Andrew while making him do a four count and trying to get him to figure out if Andrew's tempo was too slow or too fast. The actors, after doing a few takes where Simmons only mock slapped Teller, decided to do one take where Simmons slapped him for real. That was the take they used.
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* SadistTeacher: Fletcher.
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* SadistTeacher: Fletcher.Terence Fletcher is a disgustingly callous psychopath who hurls bile at his students to push them past their limits. His methods work, but the mental scars they leave make it questionable if the skill is worth it.
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* {{Deconstruction}}: Of SeriousBusiness regarding jazz music. Andrew's attempts to impress his teacher drives him to ignore or hurt people close to him and to tolerate Fletcher's growing amount of abuse. By the climax of the film, jazz music is the only thing in Andrew's life. [[http://www.chicagotribune.com/ct-keilman-column-hf-1112-20141112-story.html Here's Chicago Tribune's thought on the matter.]]
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* {{Deconstruction}}: Of SeriousBusiness regarding jazz music. Andrew's attempts to impress his teacher drives him to ignore alienate or hurt people close to him and to tolerate Fletcher's growing amount of abuse. By the climax of the film, jazz music is the only thing in Andrew's life. [[http://www.chicagotribune.com/ct-keilman-column-hf-1112-20141112-story.html Here's Chicago Tribune's thought on the matter.]]
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* {{Deconstruction}}: Of SeriousBusiness regarding jazz music. Andrew's attempts to impress his teacher drives him to ignore or hurt people close to him and tolerate Fletcher's growing amount of abuse. By the climax of the film, jazz music is the only thing in Andrew's life. [[http://www.chicagotribune.com/ct-keilman-column-hf-1112-20141112-story.html Here's Chicago Tribune's thought on the matter.]]
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* {{Deconstruction}}: Of SeriousBusiness regarding jazz music. Andrew's attempts to impress his teacher drives him to ignore or hurt people close to him and to tolerate Fletcher's growing amount of abuse. By the climax of the film, jazz music is the only thing in Andrew's life. [[http://www.chicagotribune.com/ct-keilman-column-hf-1112-20141112-story.html Here's Chicago Tribune's thought on the matter.]]
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I\'m not sure if it\'s supposed to be a happy ending, especially given how much it cost for Teller to have his CMOA.
* BittersweetEnding: [[spoiler:Andrew finishes his CrowningMusicOfAwesome and finally wins over Fletcher, with the latter finally convinced he'll be one of the greats. However, Andrew endures losing his girlfriend and almost everything else in his personal life in order to finally be accepted by Fletcher. Moreover, the viewer is left to wonder whether the final performance ultimately justifies Fletcher's abuse throughout the film.]]
* {{Deconstruction}}: Of SeriousBusiness regarding jazz music. Andrew's attempts to impress his teacher drives him to ignore or hurt people close to him and tolerate Fletcher's growing amount of abuse. By the climax of the film, jazz music is the only thing in Andrew's life. [[http://www.chicagotribune.com/ct-keilman-column-hf-1112-20141112-story.html Here's Chicago Tribune's thought on the matter.]]
* {{Deconstruction}}: Of SeriousBusiness regarding jazz music. Andrew's attempts to impress his teacher drives him to ignore or hurt people close to him and tolerate Fletcher's growing amount of abuse. By the climax of the film, jazz music is the only thing in Andrew's life. [[http://www.chicagotribune.com/ct-keilman-column-hf-1112-20141112-story.html Here's Chicago Tribune's thought on the matter.]]
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* EarnYourHappyEnding: [[spoiler:Andrew finishes his CrowningMusicOfAwesome and finally wins over Fletcher, with the latter finally convinced he'll be one of the greats.]]
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->''"There are no two words in the English language more harmful than good job."''
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->''"There are no two words in the English language more harmful than good job."good job"."''
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* IdiotBall: Fletcher seemingly grabs hold of the idiot ball when he tells Andrew that he assumes some long-ago student complained about him and got him fired, apparently never considering that it might be Andrew, the kid who ''physically attacked him on stage at a competition.'' As it turns out, [[spoiler: Fletcher knows perfectly well that it was Andrew, and later even says, "Do you think I'm an idiot? I know it was you."]]
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* HopeSpot: Fletcher tortures his musicians with these, offering a bit of praise or encouragement, only to immediately shift into his usual abusive method of teaching. Andrew discovers this on his first day with the Studio Band.
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* InformedFlaw: Essentially a plot point through most of the movie: Fletcher is such an unrelenting perfectionist that he abuses his musicians over tiny, almost unnoticeable mistakes. It's part of his teaching method.
** The trope applies unintentionally for viewers who aren't musically inclined in the final scene, where Fletcher [[spoiler: gives Andrew the wrong sheet music on purpose.]] Thing is, it's not patently obvious to the untrained ear why the drumming for "Whiplash" is supposed to be so ridiculously out of place with "Upswingin,'" which means it can be difficult for viewers to quite understand the disgusted musicians and baffled, disappointed Carnegie Hall audience.
** The trope applies unintentionally for viewers who aren't musically inclined in the final scene, where Fletcher [[spoiler: gives Andrew the wrong sheet music on purpose.]] Thing is, it's not patently obvious to the untrained ear why the drumming for "Whiplash" is supposed to be so ridiculously out of place with "Upswingin,'" which means it can be difficult for viewers to quite understand the disgusted musicians and baffled, disappointed Carnegie Hall audience.
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* EarnYourHappyEnding: [[spoiler:Andrew finishes his CrowningMusicOfAwesome and finally wins over Fletcher, with the latter finally convinced he'll be one of the greats.]]
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* NoHoldsBarredBeatdown: [[spoiler:Andrew unleashes this on Fletcher about halfway through the movie.]]
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* NoHoldsBarredBeatdown: [[spoiler:Andrew unleashes this on Fletcher about halfway through the movie.movie when the latter kicks Andrew off the stage mid-performance.]]
* RealityEnsues: [[spoiler:Fletcher's abuse was bound to catch up to him, and a former student being DrivenToSuicide along with Andrew's testimony leads him to getting fired.]]
* SadistTeacher: Fletcher.
* SadistTeacher: Fletcher.
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* {{Troll}}: Fletcher is an especially malicious one to Andrew throughout the film, whether it is harassing Andrew for his tempo or mocking [[spoiler:how his mother walked out on him]]. [[spoiler:By the final performance, Fletcher even fools Andrew into thinking his new class will be playing "[[TitleDrop Whiplash]]" only to humiliate Andrew by having the band play a different song as his form of vengeance.]]
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* {{Troll}}: Fletcher is an especially malicious one to Andrew throughout the film, whether it is harassing Andrew for his tempo or mocking [[spoiler:how his mother walked out on him]]. [[spoiler:By the final performance, Fletcher even fools Andrew into thinking his new class will be playing "[[TitleDrop Whiplash]]" only to humiliate Andrew by having the band play a different song as his form of vengeance.]]
* WorthyOpponent: [[spoiler:Andrew's final performance drives Fletcher to tears along with a nod of approval.]]
* WorthyOpponent: [[spoiler:Andrew's final performance drives Fletcher to tears along with a nod of approval.]]
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->''"There are no two words in the English language more harmful than good job."''
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* BadBoss: From trash-talking and tossing chairs to slapping faces and [[spoiler:bringing in replacements without warning]], Fletcher is an unforgiving psychopathic perfectionist who will motivate his students (Andrew, in particular) to succeed by any means necessary.
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* SeriousBusiness: Jazz.
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* SeriousBusiness: Jazz.Andrew views Jazz music as such. Deconstructed in that it takes a hefty toll on Andrew's personal life once he's motivated to somehow impress Fletcher.
* SingleTear: One of these literally streams down Andrew's cheek during Fletcher's first time reproaching him. Fletcher makes sure to call him out on it.
* {{Troll}}: Fletcher is an especially malicious one to Andrew throughout the film, whether it is harassing Andrew for his tempo or mocking [[spoiler:how his mother walked out on him]]. [[spoiler:By the final performance, Fletcher even fools Andrew into thinking his new class will be playing "[[TitleDrop Whiplash]]" only to humiliate Andrew by having the band play a different song as his form of vengeance.]]
* SingleTear: One of these literally streams down Andrew's cheek during Fletcher's first time reproaching him. Fletcher makes sure to call him out on it.
* {{Troll}}: Fletcher is an especially malicious one to Andrew throughout the film, whether it is harassing Andrew for his tempo or mocking [[spoiler:how his mother walked out on him]]. [[spoiler:By the final performance, Fletcher even fools Andrew into thinking his new class will be playing "[[TitleDrop Whiplash]]" only to humiliate Andrew by having the band play a different song as his form of vengeance.]]
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* TheDeterminator: Andrew and Fletcher each fulfill this to some extent. Andrew, in his attempts to fully access his potential as a drummer (to the point that he regularly bloodies his hands from wearing on them so often during practice); Fletcher, in how driven he is to motivate his students to succeed, [[spoiler: even keeping Andrew and 2 fellow students isolated from the rest of the band for hours so that they can match his tempo in a harsh bit of practice]].
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* KickTheDog: While Fletcher tries to run on this trope throughout the film, the bit where he [[spoiler: makes fun of Andrew for how his mother walked out on him]] really stands out as an unnecessarily cruel attempt at motivation.
** Likewise, the reveal that Fletcher's supposed [[TheAce ace former student]] had [[spoiler: in reality killed himself, likely due to Fletcher's effects on his psyche]].
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* Adorkable: Andrew can occasionally be like this, at least around his father or when initially flirting with Nicole.
* TheDogBitesBack: Andrew starts to grow a bigger backbone the more time he spends with Fletcher.
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* Adorkable: {{Adorkable}}: Andrew can occasionally be like this, at least around his father or when initially flirting with Nicole.
* TheDogBitesBack: Andrew starts to grow a bigger backbone the more time he spends withFletcher. Fletcher.
* NoHoldsBarredBeatdown: [[spoiler:Andrew unleashes this on Fletcher about halfway through the movie.]]
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* NoHoldsBarredBeatdown: [[spoiler:Andrew unleashes this on Fletcher about halfway through the movie.]]
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* PoliticallyIncorrectVillain: Fletcher is not above comparing Neyman to a little girl or a homosexual when attempting to belittle him.him.
* SeriousBusiness: Jazz.
* SeriousBusiness: Jazz.
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* PapaWolf: Andrew's father, as portrayed by Paul Reiser, is angered greatly when he realizes the extent to which Fletcher pushes his students, and [[spoiler: convinces Andrew to help speak out so that Fletcher gets fired from the university]].
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A 2014 American dramatic film starring Miles Teller as Andrew Neyman, a young jazz drummer with aspirations of becoming one of the great musicians. Attending one of the country's greatest music schools, he seeks to train under music conductor Terence Fletcher (JKSimmons). However, Fletcher's methods of teaching prove vicious in their perfectionism, with him willing to stop at '''nothing''' to push students past the limits expected of them.
The film initially played at the Sundance Film Festival to a rapturous reception, winning the Grand Jury Prize for Dramatic Features. It later opened up in theaters in October of the same year, earning critical acclaim for Damian Chazelle's direction and script, the performances of Teller and Simmons, the editing, and sound.
Also, it's a film that ''really'' [[ShownTheirWork loves music]].
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!!Tropes used in the film include:
* Adorkable: Andrew can occasionally be like this, at least around his father or when initially flirting with Nicole.
* TheDogBitesBack: Andrew starts to grow a bigger backbone the more time he spends with Fletcher.
* PoliticallyIncorrectVillain: Fletcher is not above comparing Neyman to a little girl or a homosexual when attempting to belittle him.
The film initially played at the Sundance Film Festival to a rapturous reception, winning the Grand Jury Prize for Dramatic Features. It later opened up in theaters in October of the same year, earning critical acclaim for Damian Chazelle's direction and script, the performances of Teller and Simmons, the editing, and sound.
Also, it's a film that ''really'' [[ShownTheirWork loves music]].
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!!Tropes used in the film include:
* Adorkable: Andrew can occasionally be like this, at least around his father or when initially flirting with Nicole.
* TheDogBitesBack: Andrew starts to grow a bigger backbone the more time he spends with Fletcher.
* PoliticallyIncorrectVillain: Fletcher is not above comparing Neyman to a little girl or a homosexual when attempting to belittle him.