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* SymbolSwearing: Used in the title - it's read [[SoundEffectBleep "Bleep"]], and stands for [[PrecisionFStrike "fuck"]].

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Filmed to promote a vague new age philosophy based on a very, very broad interpretation of quantum physics, the movie was funded by J. Z. Knight and heavily features commentary from 'Ramtha', an ancient Atlantian general who is apparently speaking through Knight. The movie features other proclaimed scientists who either have unrelated degrees or claim to have been taken out of context.

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Filmed to promote a vague new age philosophy based on a very, very broad interpretation of quantum physics, the movie was funded by J. Z. Knight and heavily features commentary from 'Ramtha', an ancient Atlantian general who is apparently speaking through Knight. The movie features other proclaimed scientists who either have unrelated degrees or claim to have been taken out of context.


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* ArtisticLicenseHistory: The movie claims that the Native Americans couldn't see Christopher Columbus' ships until their shaman explained what they were, because the ships were so far outside the Natives' experience. By all historical accounts, they could see the ships perfectly fine. Nor does this idea make any sense when you think about it. If it's impossible to see anything unfamiliar, how were you able to see a computer the first time?

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* ArtisticLicenseHistory: The movie claims that the Native Americans couldn't see Christopher Columbus' ships until their shaman explained what they were, because the ships were so far outside the Natives' experience. By all historical accounts, they could see the ships perfectly fine. Nor does this idea make any sense when you think about it. If it's impossible to see anything unfamiliar, how were you able to see a computer the first time?
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* CensoredTitle: According to WordOfGod, the "bleep" in the title is supposed to be [[PrecisionFStrike "fuck"]].

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* CensoredTitle: According to WordOfGod, the creators, the "bleep" in the title is supposed to be [[PrecisionFStrike "fuck"]].



* ViralMarketing: The film was released and promoted almost entirely through social media.

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* ViralMarketing: The film was released and promoted almost entirely through social media.
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* ArtisticLicenseHistory: The movie claims that the Native Americans couldn't see Christopher Columbus' ships until their shaman explained what they were, because the ships were so far outside the Natives' experience. By all historical accounts, they could see the ships perfectly fine. Nor does this idea make any sense [[FridgeLogic When you think about it]]. If it's impossible to see anything unfamiliar, how were you able to see a computer the first time?

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* ArtisticLicenseHistory: The movie claims that the Native Americans couldn't see Christopher Columbus' ships until their shaman explained what they were, because the ships were so far outside the Natives' experience. By all historical accounts, they could see the ships perfectly fine. Nor does this idea make any sense [[FridgeLogic When when you think about it]].it. If it's impossible to see anything unfamiliar, how were you able to see a computer the first time?



* OohMeAccentsSlipping: Ramtha. JZ Knight, while "channeling" him, often slips back into her normal voice.

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* OohMeAccentsSlipping: Ramtha. JZ Knight, while "channeling" him, often slips back into her normal voice.[[note]]This is evidence to skeptics that she's faking it, and former employees of hers say that she indeed practices the accent while not "channeling".[[/note]]
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* ArtisticLicenseHistory: The movie claims that the Native Americans couldn't see Christopher Columbus' ships until their shaman explained what they were, because the ships were so far outside the Natives' experience. By all historical accounts, they could see the ships perfectly fine.

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* ArtisticLicenseHistory: The movie claims that the Native Americans couldn't see Christopher Columbus' ships until their shaman explained what they were, because the ships were so far outside the Natives' experience. By all historical accounts, they could see the ships perfectly fine. Nor does this idea make any sense [[FridgeLogic When you think about it]]. If it's impossible to see anything unfamiliar, how were you able to see a computer the first time?
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* ArtisticLicenseHistory: The movie claims that the Native Americans couldn't see Christopher Columbus' ships until their shaman explained what they were, because the ships were so far outside the Natives' experience. By all historical accounts, they could see the ships perfectly fine. This is also a bit illogical considering that, unless they ''swam'' from the North American mainland to the Caribbean islands, they would know what a boat is even if the European ships were larger than their own.

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* ArtisticLicenseHistory: The movie claims that the Native Americans couldn't see Christopher Columbus' ships until their shaman explained what they were, because the ships were so far outside the Natives' experience. By all historical accounts, they could see the ships perfectly fine. This is also a bit illogical considering that, unless they ''swam'' from the North American mainland to the Caribbean islands, they would know what a boat is even if the European ships were larger than their own.
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The Other Rainforest is not a trope.


* TheOtherRainforest: The Amanda storyline is set in Portland, Oregon.

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* ArtisticLicenseHistory: The movie claims that the Native Americans couldn't see Christopher Columbus' ships until their shaman explained what they were, because the ships were so far outside the Natives' experience. By all historical accounts, they could see the ships perfectly fine. This is also a bit illogical considering that, unless they ''swam'' from the North American mainland to the Caribbean islands, they would know what a boat is even if the European ships were larger.

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* ArtisticLicenseHistory: The movie claims that the Native Americans couldn't see Christopher Columbus' ships until their shaman explained what they were, because the ships were so far outside the Natives' experience. By all historical accounts, they could see the ships perfectly fine. This is also a bit illogical considering that, unless they ''swam'' from the North American mainland to the Caribbean islands, they would know what a boat is even if the European ships were larger.larger than their own.



* {{Bowdlerize}}: According to WordOfGod, the "bleep" in the title is supposed to be [[PrecisionFStrike "fuck"]].
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* {{Bowdlerize}}: CensoredTitle: According to WordOfGod, the "bleep" in the title is supposed to be [[PrecisionFStrike "fuck"]].
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"fuck"]].



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%%* * TheEmpath: Amanda, as part of her quantum adventure.adventure. She starts experiencing life from other points of view besides her own.



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* TheOtherRainforest: The Amanda storyline is set in Portland, Oregon
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Ramtha. JZ Knight, while "channeling" him, often slips back into her normal voice.
* TheOtherRainforest: The Amanda storyline is set in Portland, Oregon
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Oregon.



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%%* ViralMarketing* ViralMarketing: The film was released and promoted almost entirely through social media.
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%%* LuckyCharmsTitle* LuckyCharmsTitle: The film is stylized as ''What tнē #$*! DÌ„Ó© ωΣ (k)πow!?'' on its promotional poster and DVD cover art.

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* AuthorTract: The movie was effectively made to promote the Ramtha cult.



* PropagandaMachine: The movie was made as a part of this.

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* DocumentaryOfLies / ManipulativeEditing: As the above quote reveals, the interviews with real physicists were often chopped up and taken out of context, often to the extent of presenting the ''exact opposite'' of what the physicists meant.



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%%* ManipulativeEditing* ManipulativeEditing: The interviews with real physicists were often chopped up and taken out of context, often to the extent of presenting the ''exact opposite'' of what the physicists meant.
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Misuse. Conspicuous CG is for computer animation standing out compared to traditional animation; it\'s not a catch-all for \"CGI I think looks bad\".


* ConspicuousCG: Not '''all''' the movie, but some effects, could easily qualify here.

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* TheEmpath: Amanda, as part of her quantum adventure.
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Filmed to promote a vague new age philosophy based on a very, very broad interpretation of quantum physics, the movie was funded by J. Z. Knight and heavily features commentary from 'Ramtha', an ancient Atlantian general who is apparently speaking through Knight. The movie features other proclaimed scientists who either have unrelated degrees or else, as in the page quote, claim to have been taken grossly out of context.

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Filmed to promote a vague new age philosophy based on a very, very broad interpretation of quantum physics, the movie was funded by J. Z. Knight and heavily features commentary from 'Ramtha', an ancient Atlantian general who is apparently speaking through Knight. The movie features other proclaimed scientists who either have unrelated degrees or else, as in the page quote, claim to have been taken grossly out of context.



The film is not so much scientific as an apologist throwing together an argument from a vaguely understood branch of science and bending things to fit their philosophy.




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->''"I was edited in such a way as to completely suppress my actual views about the matters the movie discusses. I am, indeed, profoundly unsympathetic to attempts at linking quantum mechanics with consciousness. Moreover, I explained all that, at great length, on camera, to the producers of the film ... Had I known that I would have been so radically misrepresented in the movie, I would certainly not have agreed to be filmed."''
-->-- '''David Albert''',[[http://www.salon.com/2004/09/16/bleep_2/ "What the (Bleep) Were They Thinking?"]]
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* RoboCam: One sequence features some guys viewing a party in this way, seeking "foxes who put out" and categorize women in terms of "foxes who don't put out, dogs, and cows." An overweight elderly woman who doesn't put out causes a system crash.
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* DocumentaryOfLiesDocumentaryOfLies / ManipulativeEditing: As the above quote reveals, the interviews with real physicists were often chopped up and taken out of context, often to the extent of presenting the ''exact opposite'' of what the physicists meant.

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* ArtisticLicenseHistory: When the movie claims that the Native Americans couldn't see Christopher Columbus' ships until their shaman explained what they were, because the ships were so far outside the Natives' experience. By all historical accounts, they could see the ships perfectly fine. This is also a bit illogical considering that, unless they ''swam'' from the North American mainland to the Caribbean islands, they would know what a boat is even if the European ships were larger.

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* ArtisticLicenseHistory: When the The movie claims that the Native Americans couldn't see Christopher Columbus' ships until their shaman explained what they were, because the ships were so far outside the Natives' experience. By all historical accounts, they could see the ships perfectly fine. This is also a bit illogical considering that, unless they ''swam'' from the North American mainland to the Caribbean islands, they would know what a boat is even if the European ships were larger.


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* NoMedicationForMe: Amanda tosses her anxiety medication in the trash the moment she starts feeling good about herself.
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* ArtisticLicenseHistory: When the movie claims that the Native Americans couldn't see Christopher Columbus' ships until their shaman explained what they were, because the ships were so far outside the Natives' experience. By all historical accounts, they could see the ships perfectly fine. This is also a illogical considering that, unless they ''swam'' from the North American mainland to the Caribbean islands, they would know what a boat is even if the European ships were larger.

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* ArtisticLicenseHistory: When the movie claims that the Native Americans couldn't see Christopher Columbus' ships until their shaman explained what they were, because the ships were so far outside the Natives' experience. By all historical accounts, they could see the ships perfectly fine. This is also a bit illogical considering that, unless they ''swam'' from the North American mainland to the Caribbean islands, they would know what a boat is even if the European ships were larger.



* NobleSavage: At one point, we're told that Native Americans couldn't see the ships of European settlers when they first arrived, because they were so far from the Natives' past experience that they couldn't be mentally processed.

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* NobleSavage: At one point, we're told that Native Americans couldn't see the ships of European settlers when they first arrived, because they were so far from the Natives' past experience that they couldn't be mentally processed.The Natives mentioned above.
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* ArtisticLicenseHistory: When the movie claims that the Native Americans couldn't see Christopher Columbus' ships until their shaman explained what they were, because the ships were so far outside the Natives' experience. By all historical accounts, they could see the ships perfectly fine. This is also a illogical considering that, unless they ''swam'' from the North American mainland to the Caribbean islands, they would know what a boat is even if the European ships were larger.
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Decent snark bait but some take it at face value, ''What the Bleep'' is not scientific so much as a apologist throwing together an argument from a vaguely understood branch of science and bending things to fit their philosophy.

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Decent snark bait but some take it at face value, ''What the Bleep'' The film is not so much scientific so much as a an apologist throwing together an argument from a vaguely understood branch of science and bending things to fit their philosophy.
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unfortunate implications is ymmv and needs citations


It emphasizes different perceptions of reality and how our perception of reality can alter it, leading to rather UnfortunateImplications when they claim that bad things happen to us because we choose to play the victim and Amanda's anxiety disorder seems magically cured after she finished destroying an image of herself in the mirror and starts thinking positive.

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It emphasizes different perceptions of reality and how our perception of reality can alter it, leading to rather UnfortunateImplications when they claim claiming that bad things happen to us because we choose to play the victim and Amanda's anxiety disorder seems magically cured after she finished destroying an image of herself in the mirror and starts thinking positive.



* NobleSavage: At one point, we're told that Native Americans couldn't see the ships of European settlers when they first arrived, because they were so far from the Natives' past experience that they couldn't be mentally processed. Even setting aside the [[ArtisticLicenseHistory obvious falsehood]] of that claim (there are many accounts of the Natives being quite able to see the ships), we're still left with the [[UnfortunateImplications utterly racist]] picture of pre-contact American Natives' abilities at processing new concepts.

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* NobleSavage: At one point, we're told that Native Americans couldn't see the ships of European settlers when they first arrived, because they were so far from the Natives' past experience that they couldn't be mentally processed. Even setting aside the [[ArtisticLicenseHistory obvious falsehood]] of that claim (there are many accounts of the Natives being quite able to see the ships), we're still left with the [[UnfortunateImplications utterly racist]] picture of pre-contact American Natives' abilities at processing new concepts.
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Source link for page quote led to another source link; cut out middle man.


-->-- '''David Albert''',[[http://skeptico.blogs.com/skeptico/2005/04/what_the_bleep_.html "What the (Bleep) Were They Thinking?"]]

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-->-- '''David Albert''',[[http://skeptico.blogs.com/skeptico/2005/04/what_the_bleep_.html Albert''',[[http://www.salon.com/2004/09/16/bleep_2/ "What the (Bleep) Were They Thinking?"]]
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* NewAge: Apparently, the film was very well regarded by the NewAge community.

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* NewAge: Apparently, the film was very well regarded by the NewAge community.community, which isn't surprising, as it's obviously made to defend their ideals.
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It follows a vague documentary format, switching between commentators talking about the implications of Quantum physics and consciousness altering reality [seemingly in radical and pretty much straight up magical ways], a story follows a deaf photographer with anxiety issues, Amanda, who lives with her rather [[CloudCuckoolander out-there]] sister, as Amanda starts to experience reality through other perspectives as well as some experts in the field going over their experiments and findings.

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It follows a vague documentary format, switching between commentators talking about about: the implications of Quantum physics and consciousness altering reality [seemingly in radical and pretty much straight up magical ways], a story follows ways]; a deaf photographer with anxiety issues, issues named Amanda, who lives with her rather [[CloudCuckoolander out-there]] sister, as Amanda starts to experience reality through other perspectives while living with her rather [[CloudCuckoolander out-there]] sister; as well as some experts in the field going over their experiments and findings.
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->''"I was edited in such a way as to completely suppress my actual views about the matters the movie discusses. I am, indeed, profoundly unsympathetic to attempts at linking quantum mechanics with consciousness. Moreover, I explained all that, at great length, on camera, to the producers of the film ... Had I known that I would have been so radically misrepresented in the movie, I would certainly not have agreed to be filmed."''
-->-- '''David Albert''',[[http://skeptico.blogs.com/skeptico/2005/04/what_the_bleep_.html "What the (Bleep) Were They Thinking?"]]

Filmed to promote a vague new age philosophy based on a very, very broad interpretation of quantum physics, the movie was funded by J. Z. Knight and heavily features commentary from 'Ramtha', an ancient Atlantian general who is apparently speaking through Knight. The movie features other proclaimed scientists who either have unrelated degrees or else, as in the page quote, claim to have been taken grossly out of context.

It follows a vague documentary format, switching between commentators talking about the implications of Quantum physics and consciousness altering reality [seemingly in radical and pretty much straight up magical ways], a story follows a deaf photographer with anxiety issues, Amanda, who lives with her rather [[CloudCuckoolander out-there]] sister, as Amanda starts to experience reality through other perspectives as well as some experts in the field going over their experiments and findings.

It emphasizes different perceptions of reality and how our perception of reality can alter it, leading to rather UnfortunateImplications when they claim that bad things happen to us because we choose to play the victim and Amanda's anxiety disorder seems magically cured after she finished destroying an image of herself in the mirror and starts thinking positive.

Decent snark bait but some take it at face value, ''What the Bleep'' is not scientific so much as a apologist throwing together an argument from a vaguely understood branch of science and bending things to fit their philosophy.

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* AchievementsInIgnorance
* {{Bowdlerize}}: According to WordOfGod, the "bleep" in the title is supposed to be [[PrecisionFStrike "fuck"]].
* CensoredTitle
* ConspicuousCG: Not '''all''' the movie, but some effects, could easily qualify here.
* DocumentaryOfLies
* DownTheRabbitHole: [[LampshadeHanging Lampshaded]]:
--> "How far down the rabbit hole do you wanna go?"
* TheEmpath: Amanda, as part of her quantum adventure.
* ItRunsOnNonsensoleum
* LuckyCharmsTitle
* ManipulativeEditing
* {{Narrator}}: Ramtha, a mighty warrior-spirit from Atlantis (or Lemuria, not so sure) serves as our narrator.
* NewAge: Apparently, the film was very well regarded by the NewAge community.
* NobleSavage: At one point, we're told that Native Americans couldn't see the ships of European settlers when they first arrived, because they were so far from the Natives' past experience that they couldn't be mentally processed. Even setting aside the [[ArtisticLicenseHistory obvious falsehood]] of that claim (there are many accounts of the Natives being quite able to see the ships), we're still left with the [[UnfortunateImplications utterly racist]] picture of pre-contact American Natives' abilities at processing new concepts.
* OohMeAccentsSlipping: Ramtha.
* TheOtherRainforest: The Amanda storyline is set in Portland, Oregon
* PrecisionFStrike: See {{Bowdlerize}} above.
* PropagandaMachine: The movie was made as a part of this.
* QuantumMechanicsCanDoAnything: For the record, [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wave_function_collapse wave function collapse]] is due to the measuring ''equipment'' interfering with the process being observed, not the consciousness of the observer.
* QuoteMine: See the comment above.
* ReadingLips: Amanda's way to understand other people, besides HandSignals.
* SchmuckBait
* ShamelessSelfPromoter: The whole thing was produced as a giant promo for J.Z. Knight's Ramtha cult; fittingly, it was produced by some students of Ramtha's School of Enlightenment.
* UnexplainedAccent: Ramtha, although maybe that's the Lemurian/Atlantian accent.
* ViralMarketing
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