Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
* SingleStrokeBattle: Notably averted. While most Kurasawa samurai films tend to have fights that only take one or two strikes per opponent, the duel between Hyoe and Rokurota has a length measured in minutes.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
* DidntThinkThisThrough: The party tries to use a bonfire festival as cover for why they're carrying large bundles of wood. The people holding the festival end up insisting that they contribute to the bonfire, and in the morning they have to dig the now-melted gold bars out of the ashes.
Changed line(s) 50 (click to see context) from:
* HollywoodDensity: A point is made about how heavy gold is, and the characters are staggering under the weight. But based on the volumes of their packs, they should be carrying between two and three tons of the stuff each. If the gold bars are intended to contain 10 ryo (1 ryo = 16.5g) of gold each, then the 200 bars total would weigh somewhere between 70 and 90 pounds, depending on the purity of the bars, which is a plausible amount for two grown men to be able to carry.
to:
* HollywoodDensity: A point is made about how heavy gold is, and the characters are staggering under the weight. But based on the volumes of their packs, they should be carrying between two and three tons of the stuff each. If the gold bars are intended to contain 10 ryo (1 ryo = 16.5g) of gold each, then the 200 bars total would weigh somewhere between 70 and 90 pounds, depending on the purity of the bars, which is a plausible amount for two grown men to be able to carry.carry with some difficulty. Once the party loses the horse and cart, the peasants carrying the gold are shown staggering under the weight. But based on the volumes of their packs, they should be carrying between two and three tons of the stuff each, as opposed to forty-odd pounds.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 50 (click to see context) from:
* HollywoodDensity: A point is made about how heavy gold is, and the characters are staggering under the weight. But based on the volumes of their packs, they should be carrying between two and three tons of the stuff each. If the gold bars are intended to contain 10 ryo (16.5g) of gold each, then the 200 bars total would weigh somewhere between 70 and 90 pounds, depending on the purity of the bars, which is a plausible amount for two grown men to be able to carry.
to:
* HollywoodDensity: A point is made about how heavy gold is, and the characters are staggering under the weight. But based on the volumes of their packs, they should be carrying between two and three tons of the stuff each. If the gold bars are intended to contain 10 ryo (16.(1 ryo = 16.5g) of gold each, then the 200 bars total would weigh somewhere between 70 and 90 pounds, depending on the purity of the bars, which is a plausible amount for two grown men to be able to carry.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 51 (click to see context) from:
* HopeSpot: Towards the end, When Rokurota, the princess and the slave girl get sight of their homeland land, only to be captured by enemy forces right after.
to:
* HopeSpot: Towards the end, When Rokurota, the princess and the slave girl get sight of their homeland ally's land, only to be captured by enemy forces right after.
* MistreatmentInducedBetrayal: [[spoiler:Hyoe is maimed by his lord for losing the CombatByChampion and allowing Makabe to leave after winning. This, combined with kindness from Makabe and Yuki, causes him to switch sides and help them escape captivity with the gold.]]
Changed line(s) 74 (click to see context) from:
* RefugeInAudacity: How does Rokurota get the gold concealed in the firewood past the checkpoint? By marching straight up to it and showing the samurai on guard one of the pieces of gold which he claimed to have found on the mountain - then he makes a fuss about getting them to give it back to him to distract the guards while the others hustle through with the rest of it.
to:
* RefugeInAudacity: RefugeInAudacity:
** The plan to smuggle the princess and the gold to her ally's territory. The border between the recently conquered lands and their allies is heavily guarded, so instead they travel through their enemy's lands to their border with the allies, on the assumption that said border would be less heavily defended.
** How does Rokurota get the gold concealed in the firewood past the checkpoint? By marching straight up to it and showing the samurai on guard one of the pieces of gold which he claimed to have found on the mountain - then he makes a fuss about getting them to give it back to him to distract the guards while the others hustle through with the rest of it.
** The plan to smuggle the princess and the gold to her ally's territory. The border between the recently conquered lands and their allies is heavily guarded, so instead they travel through their enemy's lands to their border with the allies, on the assumption that said border would be less heavily defended.
** How does Rokurota get the gold concealed in the firewood past the checkpoint? By marching straight up to it and showing the samurai on guard one of the pieces of gold which he claimed to have found on the mountain - then he makes a fuss about getting them to give it back to him to distract the guards while the others hustle through with the rest of it.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 50 (click to see context) from:
* HollywoodDensity: A point is made about how heavy gold is, and the characters are staggering under the weight. But based on the volumes of their packs, they should be carrying between two and three tons of the stuff each.
to:
* HollywoodDensity: A point is made about how heavy gold is, and the characters are staggering under the weight. But based on the volumes of their packs, they should be carrying between two and three tons of the stuff each. If the gold bars are intended to contain 10 ryo (16.5g) of gold each, then the 200 bars total would weigh somewhere between 70 and 90 pounds, depending on the purity of the bars, which is a plausible amount for two grown men to be able to carry.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 35 (click to see context) from:
* EvenEvilHasStandards: While not being particularly evil, Tahei and Matashichi are clearly lacking morals. Still, Matashichi refuses to steal the dead warrior's weapons early on. And then he proceeds to go ahead and strip the warrior after Tahei declares, "[[ScrewThisImOuttaHere]] Do what you want. I'm going home]]".
to:
* EvenEvilHasStandards: While not being particularly evil, Tahei and Matashichi are clearly lacking morals. Still, Matashichi refuses to steal the dead warrior's weapons early on. And then he proceeds to go ahead and strip the warrior after Tahei declares, "[[ScrewThisImOuttaHere]] "[[ScrewThisImOuttaHere Do what you want. I'm going home]]".
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 80,81 (click to see context) from:
* SecretTestofCharacter: Rokurota claims that this was the reason why he made Tahei and Matashichi dig in the ground of the hidden fortress when the gold was hidden in the spring all along.
* ScreamslikeaLittleGirl: Both the peasants, but particularly Tahei.
* ScreamslikeaLittleGirl: Both the peasants, but particularly Tahei.
to:
* SecretTestofCharacter: SecretTestOfCharacter: Rokurota claims that this was the reason why he made Tahei and Matashichi dig in the ground of the hidden fortress when the gold was hidden in the spring all along.
*ScreamslikeaLittleGirl: ScreamsLikeALittleGirl: Both the peasants, but particularly Tahei.
*
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
* LaughablyEvil: Tahei and Matashichi, who are just as funny as the are despicable.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 35 (click to see context) from:
* EvenEvilHasStandards: While not being particularly evil, Tahei and Matashichi are clearly lacking morals. Still, Tahei refuses to steal the dead warrior's weapons early on.
to:
* EvenEvilHasStandards: While not being particularly evil, Tahei and Matashichi are clearly lacking morals. Still, Tahei Matashichi refuses to steal the dead warrior's weapons early on. And then he proceeds to go ahead and strip the warrior after Tahei declares, "[[ScrewThisImOuttaHere]] Do what you want. I'm going home]]".
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
* SpitefulSpit: Tahei spits at Matashichi at the beginning of the film, when Matashichi blames him for getting them both into a terrible mess.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 13 (click to see context) from:
* AsYouKnow: InfoDump in the opening scene in conversation between Tahei and Matashichi to let the audience know, [[HowWeGotHere how they got there]]:
to:
* AsYouKnow: InfoDump in the opening scene in conversation between Tahei and Matashichi to let the audience know, know [[HowWeGotHere how they got there]]:
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
* LaughingMad: At the beginning, Tahei bursts into hysterical laughter over how absurd the situation was that made them lose everything.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
* HeroicBSOD: He doesn't show it in front of the princess, but Rokurota looks clearly disturbed when, thanks to news relayed through Matashichi, [[spoiler: he learns that his sister has been executed as part of the plan for him and the princess to escape]].
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
* ActionSurvivor: The two peasants manage to make it through the film in one piece while being chased by soldiers and the like.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 24 (click to see context) from:
* {{Bookends}}: The movie starts and ends with a shot of Tahei and Matashichi arguing with each other.
to:
* {{Bookends}}: The movie starts and ends with a shot of Tahei and Matashichi arguing with each other.wandering down the road together.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
** Works successfully when Makabe tries it on Tahei and Matashichi who try to make off with some of the gold.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 68 (click to see context) from:
* RebelliousPrincess: Princess Yuki. She like hitting people with a stick.
to:
* RebelliousPrincess: Princess Yuki. She like hitting people Yuki is a stubborn girl who doesn't listen to anyone and disagrees with a stick. everything.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
* JerkassHasaPoint: While he and Tahei are utterly incorrigible, Matashichi is right to point out that Rokurota is pretty much bullying them.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
* SecretTestofCharacter: Rokurota claims that this was the reason why he made Tahei and Matashichi dig in the ground of the hidden fortress when the gold was hidden in the spring all along.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 86 (click to see context) from:
* TomboyPrincess: Princess Yuki was an only child raised as a boy by her father. It shows.
to:
* TomboyPrincess: Princess Yuki was an only child raised as a boy by her father. It shows.That's why she's so shrill and imperious.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
* TheCameo: Kurosawa regular Daisuke Kato as a Yamana soldier.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 57 (click to see context) from:
* LovableTraitor: The peasants will run for it at the first sign of danger, taking whatever gold they can manage, but still manage to redeem themselves.
to:
* LovableTraitor: The peasants will run for it at the first sign of danger, taking whatever gold they can manage, but still manage to redeem themselves. They don't stay so lovable after they decide to take advantage of a sleeping Yuki though.
Changed line(s) 80 (click to see context) from:
* TastyGold: One of the two peasants chews on a gold stick to test its authenticity.
to:
* TastyGold: One of the two peasants Matashichi chews on a gold stick to test its authenticity.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Tahei comes up with the plan, Matashichi breaks it down.
Changed line(s) 76 (click to see context) from:
* SmartBall: Tahei, though impulsive, weak and stupid, nervously comes up with a plan that actually saves his, Matashichi's and Rokurota's lives on the night they first formally meet.
to:
* SmartBall: Tahei, Tahei and Matashichi, though impulsive, weak and stupid, nervously comes come up with a plan that actually saves his, Matashichi's and Rokurota's their lives on the night they first formally meet.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
* HoldMe: Tahei and Matashichi have plenty of "Hold me, I'm scared" moments.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 75 (click to see context) from:
* SmartBall: Tahei nervously comes up with a plan that actually saves his, Matashichi's and Rokurota's lives on the night they first formally meet.
to:
* SmartBall: Tahei Tahei, though impulsive, weak and stupid, nervously comes up with a plan that actually saves his, Matashichi's and Rokurota's lives on the night they first formally meet.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
It was actually Tahei. I know now.
Changed line(s) 75 (click to see context) from:
* SmartBall: Tahei and Matashichi come up with a plan that actually saves their lives on the night they first formally meet.
to:
* SmartBall: Tahei and Matashichi come nervously comes up with a plan that actually saves their his, Matashichi's and Rokurota's lives on the night they first formally meet.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 35 (click to see context) from:
* FaceHeelTurn: Averted with the farm girl, who after learning about the award of 10 gold pieces, decides to no rat out her four liberators. On more than one level she [[{{Foil}} represents the opposite]] of what Tahei and Matashichi stand for.
to:
* FaceHeelTurn: Averted with the farm girl, who after learning about the award of 10 gold pieces, decides to no rat out her four liberators. On more than one level she [[{{Foil}} represents the opposite]] of what Played around with Tahei and Matashichi stand for.Matashichi, who get worse and worse as the film progresses yet are constantly prevented from doing anything truly heinous.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 32 (click to see context) from:
* [[DramaQueen Drama Queens]]: Matashichi and Tahei, of course.
to:
* [[DramaQueen Drama Queens]]: [[DirtyCoward Dirty Cowards]]: Matashichi and Tahei, Tahei are a couple of course.underhanded scoundrels, but they're also intimidated very easily.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 74 (click to see context) from:
* SmartBall: Matashichi and Tahei come up with a plan that actually saves their lives on the night they first formally meet.
to:
* SmartBall: Tahei and Matashichi and Tahei come up with a plan that actually saves their lives on the night they first formally meet.
Changed line(s) 86 (click to see context) from:
* [[UnsympatheticComedyProtagonist Unsympathetic Comedy Protagonists]]: Mataschichi and Tahei are already a couple of spineless, greedy fools. They only become bigger scoundrels as the movie goes on. At their worst, they consider [[AttemptedRape molesting the princess]].
to:
* [[UnsympatheticComedyProtagonist Unsympathetic Comedy Protagonists]]: Mataschichi and Tahei and Matashichi are already a couple of spineless, greedy fools. They only become bigger scoundrels as the movie goes on. At their worst, they consider [[AttemptedRape molesting the princess]].
