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* AllForNothing: [[spoiler:Under the influence of steroids and unwilling to give up her dream, Jackie ignores Lou's instructions and goes to Las Vegas for the bodybuilding competition. Thanks to the steroids, not only does she not win, but she humiliates herself by hallucinating and vomiting on stage, then assaults another competitor for laughing at her, which lands her back in Lou Sr.'s hands, now much worse off than she was before.]]
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** What happened to Lou's mom? Lou accuses her father of killing her. He says she abandoned the family because she hated him, and her daughter. We do not learn her fate.fate, though [[spoiler:an FBI agent claims that she was ready to step forward with evidence against Lou Sr., giving him plenty of motive to kill his wife]].
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* DomesticAbuser: JJ is a vile piece of work who beats his wife, Lou's sister Beth. One incident lands Beth in the hospital and makes Lou say out loud that she wants to kill JJ. [[spoiler:Hearing this, a 'roid raging Jackie beats JJ to death, setting off the rest of the movie.]]
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* EvenEvilCanBeLoved: Deconstructed; despite her husband JJ being an utter scumbag, Beth still loves him, and [[spoiler:she's devastated by his death, angrily railing against Lou for it. Beth's dedication to JJ, rather than being a sign of compassion on her part or that there's anything worthwhile about him, is shown to be at the cost of her relationship with Lou, who ''genuinely'' cares about her. Lou ultimately calls Beth a moron for her loyalty to a man who did nothing but hurt her and the sisters part on very bitter terms.]]
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* AlasPoorVillain: [[spoiler: JJ may have been an abuser but his horrific murder is still treated as a tragedy by his wife]].
** [[spoiler: Although the tragedy clearly has more to do with Beth's mental state and how badly she had been beaten down both mentally and physically by him, not really making it an example of this trope.]]
** [[spoiler: Although the tragedy clearly has more to do with Beth's mental state and how badly she had been beaten down both mentally and physically by him, not really making it an example of this trope.]]
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* CallingTheCopsOnTheFBI: [[spoiler:After Lou tells Lou Sr. that she is going to rat him out to the feds, Lou Sr. attempts to do this by sending a state cop on his payroll out to kill Lou. It doesn't work.]]
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* CrazyConsumption: Lou Senior loves bugs and has several pets. But when [[spoiler:Lou turns against him]], he smashes their tanks, grabs one, and eats it.
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* EatTheDog: Lou Senior loves bugs and has several pets. But when [[spoiler:Lou turns against him]], he smashes their tanks, grabs one, and eats it.
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* RentAZilla: What starts out as a gritty neo-noir with a QueerRomance angle ends with [[spoiler:the two female leads as [[GiantWoman Giant Women]], although it's implied to be all in the characters' minds.]]
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** [[spoiler: Although the tragedy clearly has more to do with Beth's mental state and how badly she had been beaten down both mentally and physically by him, not really making it an example of this trope.]]
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* ButchLesbian: Jackie (a female bodybuilder) is in a lesbian relationship with Lou, who also comes off as butch with her mullet, tank tops, and pick-up truck. This is apparently what Lou is into, given her copy of ''Macho Sluts.''
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* ButchLesbian: Jackie (a female bodybuilder) is in a lesbian relationship with Lou, who also comes off as butch with her mullet, tank tops, and pick-up truck. Midway through the film Jackie clarifies she's bisexual. This is apparently what Lou is into, given her copy of ''Macho Sluts.''
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* LockAndLoadMontage: Lous locks and loads a pistol before setting out to confront her father.
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* LockAndLoadMontage: Lous Lou locks and loads a pistol before setting out to confront her father.
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* CallingTheCopsOnTheFBI: [[spoiler:After Lou tells Lou Sr. that she is going to rat him out to the feds, Lou Sr. attempts to do this by sending a state cop on his payroll out to kill Lou. It doesn't work.]]
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* PsychoSerum: A TruthInTelevision example with Jackie's steroid addiction.
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* AlasPoorVillain: [[spoiler: JJ may have been an abuser but his horrific murder is still treated as a tragedyby his wife]].
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* AlasPoorVillain: [[spoiler: JJ may have been an abuser but his horrific murder is still treated as a tragedyby tragedy by his wife]].
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* VillainousBreakdown: [[spoiler: Once Lou Sr. learns that her daughter intends to expose his operation, he flies into a rage, trashing his office and eating his own pet beetle.]]
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* VillainousBreakdown: [[spoiler: Once Lou Sr. learns that her his daughter intends to expose his operation, he flies into a rage, trashing his office and eating his own pet beetle.]]
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** Lou is rude and hostile to people while doing disgusting tasks at work, showing that she's a bitter person without much going on.
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** Lou is rude and hostile to people while doing disgusting tasks at work, showing that she's a bitter person without much going on.on and that she often gets stuck [[LiteralMetaphor cleaning up after others]].
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* VertigoEffect: A subtle one is used during Jackie's bodybuilding performance to show her slipping mental state from steroid abuse.
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* EveryCarIsAPinto: Discussed and defied. When JJ's burned-up car is discovered in the gorge, the sheriff immediately knows it's a [[MakeItLookLikeAnAccident fake accident]] because cars don't actually explode when they crash. It only happens in the movies.
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* BoomHeadshot: [[spoiler:Daisy]] is killed by a single gunshot to the head, though [[spoiler:it turns out that she's not quite dead]].
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* ClingyJealousGirl: Daisy to Lou.is an AbhorrentAdmirer of Lou's and is jealous of Jackie when the pair start hooking up.
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* DiesWideOpen: [[spoiler:Daisy]] dies with her eyes open. Lou shuts them immediately before covering her with a blanket.
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* AlasPoorVillain: [[spoiler: JJ may have been an abuser but his needlessly horrific murder is still treated as a tragedy, especially when you factor he still was a father and had a loving wife]].
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* AlasPoorVillain: [[spoiler: JJ may have been an abuser but his needlessly horrific murder is still treated as a tragedy, especially when you factor he still was a father and had a loving tragedyby his wife]].
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* ShoutOut: JJ notes that the recent release of ''Film/DieHard'' has made the gun range quite popular.
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* ShoutOut: ShoutOut:
** JJ notes that the recent release of ''Film/DieHard'' has made the gun range quitepopular.popular.
** Rose Glass has [[https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/berlin-love-lies-bleeding-director-rose-glass-interview-1235823387/ stated]] that ''Film/ThelmaAndLouise'' was an inspiration for this movie. We eventually learn that Lou's full name is Louise.
** JJ notes that the recent release of ''Film/DieHard'' has made the gun range quite
** Rose Glass has [[https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/berlin-love-lies-bleeding-director-rose-glass-interview-1235823387/ stated]] that ''Film/ThelmaAndLouise'' was an inspiration for this movie. We eventually learn that Lou's full name is Louise.
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* AbusiveParents: Lou Sr. forced Lou into helping with his criminal empire and turns a blind eye to Beth being abused by her husband JJ, who works for him.
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** Lou Sr. forced Lou into helping with his criminal empire and turns a blind eye to Beth being abused by her husband JJ, who works forhim.him.
** Jackie's adoptive mother calls her a "monster" when she calls home.
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** Jackie's adoptive mother calls her a "monster" when she calls home.
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* {{Blackmail}}: Without making any threats, Daisy effectively blackmails Lou with [[spoiler:her knowledge of Lou's involvement in the murder of JJ]] into getting Lou to accept dating her.
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* GreenEyedMonster: Lou gets instantly jealous when she sees a male gym rat hitting on Jackie. She immediately closes the gym down to shut it down.
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* MagicalHomelessPerson: Jackie is shown sleeping under a bridge before she meets Lou. She is also a [[spoiler:{{Sizeshifter}}. [[AmbigousSituation Maybe]]]].
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* MagicalHomelessPerson: Jackie is shown sleeping under a bridge before she meets Lou. She is also a [[spoiler:{{Sizeshifter}}. [[AmbigousSituation [[AmbiguousSituation Maybe]]]].
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* LoveHurts: [[spoiler:After killing Daisy to protect Lou]], Jackie calls her adoptive family and tearfully tells her sister to never fall in love because it hurts so much.
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* LoveMakesYouDumb: Like any good film noir, most of the bad situations in this movie could have been avoided if the protagonists weren't blinded by love. More directly, Lou calls her sister a moron when she won't stop loving JJ even after JJ put her in the hospital.
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* WifeBasherBasher: When JJ puts Beth in the hospital, Lou openly contemplates ending him once and for all. [[spoiler:Jackie, meanwhile, actually does so.]]
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* PistolWhipping: Lou delivers a hard one to Nick the dirty cop after he fails to take her out.
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* AmbiguousSituation: Jackie's [[spoiler:[[{{Sizeshifter}} size-shifting]].]]
** Is it because of the performance enhancing drugs Lou gives her? Or was she born like this, repressed it, and the drugs merely brought it out? Evidence for the latter theory is that Lou gives similar drugs to other people at the gym but no one else [[spoiler: has become a giant.]] Also, during a phone-call home, Jackie's relative calls her a "monster", though it's not specified what she meant.
** Another possibility is [[spoiler:Jackie isn't a size-shifter at all and her size changes are just metaphors for her emotional state. This is implied during the end when both Jackie and Lou are shown as giants running away together.]]
** Is it because of the performance enhancing drugs Lou gives her? Or was she born like this, repressed it, and the drugs merely brought it out? Evidence for the latter theory is that Lou gives similar drugs to other people at the gym but no one else [[spoiler: has become a giant.]] Also, during a phone-call home, Jackie's relative calls her a "monster", though it's not specified what she meant.
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** Jackie's [[spoiler:[[{{Sizeshifter}} size-shifting]].]]
**]] Is it because of the performance enhancing drugs Lou gives her? Or was she born like this, repressed it, and the drugs merely brought it out? Evidence for the latter theory is that Lou gives similar drugs to other people at the gym but no one else [[spoiler: has become a giant.]] Also, during a phone-call home, Jackie's relative calls her a "monster", though it's not specified what she meant.
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** What happened to Lou's mom? Lou accuses her father of killing her. He says she abandoned the family because she hated him, and her daughter. We do not learn her fate.
** Jackie's [[spoiler:[[{{Sizeshifter}} size-shifting]].
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* ButchLesbian: Jackie (a female bodybuilder) is in a lesbian relationship with Lou, who also comes off as butch with her mullet and tank tops. This is apparently what Lou is into, given her copy of ''Macho Sluts.''
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* ButchLesbian: Jackie (a female bodybuilder) is in a lesbian relationship with Lou, who also comes off as butch with her mullet and mullet, tank tops.tops, and pick-up truck. This is apparently what Lou is into, given her copy of ''Macho Sluts.''
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* ColorMotif: Red. Flashbacks and some scenes around the gorge are presented purely in ominous red.
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* FunnyBackgroundEvent: As the camera focuses on Jackie snoozing in the truck, Lou disposes of [[spoiler:Daisy's corpse]] in the background and takes a smoke break.
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** Is it because of the performance enhancing drugs Lou gives her? Or was she born like this, repressed it, and the drugs merely brought it out? Evidence for the latter theory is that Lou gives similar drugs to other people at the gym but no one else has become a giant. Also, during a phone-call home, Jackie's relative calls her a "monster", though it's not specified what she meant.
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** Is it because of the performance enhancing drugs Lou gives her? Or was she born like this, repressed it, and the drugs merely brought it out? Evidence for the latter theory is that Lou gives similar drugs to other people at the gym but no one else [[spoiler: has become a giant. giant.]] Also, during a phone-call home, Jackie's relative calls her a "monster", though it's not specified what she meant.
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* AlasPoorVillain: [[Spoiler: JJ may have been an abuser but his needlessly horrific murder is still treated as a tragedy, especially when you factor he still was a father and had a loving wife]].
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* AlasPoorVillain: [[Spoiler: [[spoiler: JJ may have been an abuser but his needlessly horrific murder is still treated as a tragedy, especially when you factor he still was a father and had a loving wife]].
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* AlasPoorVillain: [[Spoiler: JJ may have been an abuser but his needlessly horrific murder is still treated as a tragedy, especially when you factor he still was a father and had a loving wife]].
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* AnimalLover: Subverted. Lou Sr. seems to be one after looking after [[spoiler: JJ's pet bird after his death without much to gain from it, only to have him take a bite out of his own pet beetle during a VillanousBreakdown near the climax]].
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* MagicalHomelessPerson: Jackie is shown sleeping under a bridge before she meets Lou. She is also a [[spoiler:{{Sizeshifter}}]].
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* MagicalHomelessPerson: Jackie is shown sleeping under a bridge before she meets Lou. She is also a [[spoiler:{{Sizeshifter}}]].[[spoiler:{{Sizeshifter}}. [[AmbigousSituation Maybe]]]].
* MagicalRealism: Granted, the scenes in question could be read as abstracted versions of the actual events, but in an otherwise pretty gritty crime drama [[spoiler: Jackie might be [[{{Sizeshifter}} capable of growing to gigantic proportions]] rather than just buff]].
* MagicalRealism: Granted, the scenes in question could be read as abstracted versions of the actual events, but in an otherwise pretty gritty crime drama [[spoiler: Jackie might be [[{{Sizeshifter}} capable of growing to gigantic proportions]] rather than just buff]].
