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In this version of events, Padmé has a younger sister who was taken away to be an apprentice Jedi, never to see her family again. As a result, Padmé is rather less idealistic about the Jedi and their doctrine of detachment, and when Qui-Gon takes Anakin Skywalker from Tatooine she knows that the Jedi won't let Anakin stay in touch with his mother, nor can they be expected to do anything further to help Anakin's mother or friends. So Padmé decides she will help Shmi Skywalker herself, and gives Anakin a secret way to keep in touch with her. Anakin, in turn, decides that he will do what he can to find out for Padmé what has become of her sister.

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In this version of events, Padmé has a younger sister who was taken away to be an apprentice Jedi, never to see her family again. As a result, Padmé is rather less idealistic about the Jedi and their doctrine of detachment, and when Qui-Gon takes Anakin Skywalker from Tatooine she knows that the Jedi won't let Anakin stay in touch with his mother, nor can they be expected to do anything further to help Anakin's mother or friends. So Padmé decides she will help Shmi Skywalker herself, and gives Anakin a secret way to keep in touch with her. Anakin, in turn, decides that he will do what he can to find out for Padmé what has become of her sister.



* DeliberateValuesDissonance: The ''raison d'être'' for the story, since the Naberries don't agree at all with the Jedi tradition of totally cutting children from their families and want nothing more than to learn their youngest daughter's whereabouts.

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* DeliberateValuesDissonance: The ''raison d'être'' for the story, since the Naberries don't agree at all with the Jedi tradition of totally cutting children from their families and want nothing more than to learn their youngest daughter's whereabouts.



** Madam Jocasta quite enjoys his help in the library, enough to grumble over the other Masters constantly borrowing her "assistant".

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** Madam Jocasta Nu quite enjoys his help in the library, enough to grumble over the other Masters constantly borrowing her "assistant".



* IWillFindYou: When he learns Padmé’s baby sister was taken away by the Jedi Temple, Anakin promises he will help her to reunite the girl with the Naberrie family.

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* IWillFindYou: When he learns Padmé’s baby sister was taken away by the Jedi Temple, Anakin promises he will help her to reunite the girl with the Naberrie family.



** Jedi younglings who come from a famous family, like Ilaré Naberrie, are given new names to prevent them from finding out who their birth families were and reforming an attachment. This is one of the things that makes it more difficult for Anakin to find out what became of Ilaré.

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** Jedi younglings who come from a famous family, like Ilaré Naberrie, are given new names to prevent them from finding out who their birth families were and reforming an attachment. This is one of the things that makes it more difficult for Anakin to find out what became of Ilaré.



Rabé rolls her eyes. "No, you just picked that up from Obi-Wan," she says. "He always has a bad feeling about everything."

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Rabé rolls her eyes. "No, you just picked that up from Obi-Wan," she says. "He always has a bad feeling about everything."



* ScaryLibrarian: Madam Jocasta is quite ''upset'' to realize someone is deleting precious data in her library.

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* ScaryLibrarian: Madam Jocasta Nu is quite ''upset'' to realize someone is deleting precious data in her library.



* UndergroundRailroad: The Tatooine freedom trail, a secret network that helps escaped slaves. Shmi Skywalker is a member even before being freed, and Padmé helps out with money and equipment, as well as helping set up places offworld for slaves to escape to.

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* UndergroundRailroad: The Tatooine freedom trail, a secret network that helps escaped slaves. Shmi Skywalker is a member even before being freed, and Padmé helps out with money and equipment, as well as helping set up places offworld for slaves to escape to.
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* AffectionateNickname: "Grandmother" is Anakin's way to show his respect and fondness for Madam Jocasta.

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* AffectionateNickname: "Grandmother" is Anakin's way to show his respect and fondness for Madam Jocasta.Nu.
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* {{Expy}}: Here, Madam Jocasta Nu is basically [[Franchise/{{Discworld}} Granny Weatherwax]] InSpace.

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* {{Expy}}: Here, Madam Jocasta Nu is basically [[Franchise/{{Discworld}} Granny Weatherwax]] InSpace.JustForFun/InSpace.
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* ForWantOfANail: Padme's family had a daughter taken to be a Jedi. Because of this, when the events of ''Phantom Menace'' come around and Anakin is taken in by the Jedi, he's given a way to contact their family, and in turn, Padme starts working on freeing slaves, including Shmi. Thanks to ''all'' of this, Anakin has a functioning support network and is less willing to fall into Palpatine's circle of influence and changes how ''Attack of the Clones'' is going.

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* IntergenerationalFriendship: Anakin seems to have a talent for creating these.

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* IntergenerationalFriendship: Anakin seems to have a talent for creating these.these:



-->“Ah,” says Anakin. “I knew I had a bad feeling about this mission.”\\
Rabé rolls her eyes. “No, you just picked that up from Obi-Wan,” she says. “He always has a bad feeling about everything.”
* NotSoDifferent: Anakin draws more and more uncomfortable parallels between the Jedi way of living and slavery.

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-->“Ah,” -->"Ah," says Anakin. “I "I knew I had a bad feeling about this mission.”\\
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Rabé rolls her eyes. “No, "No, you just picked that up from Obi-Wan,” Obi-Wan," she says. “He "He always has a bad feeling about everything.
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Anakin draws more and more uncomfortable parallels between the Jedi way of living and slavery.


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* StatingTheSimpleSolution: Anakin is perplexed by how the planet Kamino was erased from the Jedi Archives. Shmi has to point out that the Jedi Archives are not the only database in the galaxy.

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* StatingTheSimpleSolution: Anakin is perplexed by how how, if the planet Kamino was erased from the Jedi Archives.Archives, will they find out information on it. Shmi has to point out that the Jedi Archives are not the only database in the galaxy.
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In this version of events, Padme has a younger sister who was taken away to be an apprentice Jedi, never to see her family again. As a result, Padme is rather less idealistic about the Jedi and their doctrine of detachment, and when Qui-Gon takes Anakin Skywalker from Tatooine she knows that the Jedi won't let Anakin stay in touch with his mother, nor can they be expected to do anything further to help Anakin's mother or friends. So Padme decides she will help Shmi Skywalker herself, and gives Anakin a secret way to keep in touch with her. Anakin, in turn, decides that he will do what he can to find out for Padme what has become of her sister.

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In this version of events, Padme Padmé has a younger sister who was taken away to be an apprentice Jedi, never to see her family again. As a result, Padme Padmé is rather less idealistic about the Jedi and their doctrine of detachment, and when Qui-Gon takes Anakin Skywalker from Tatooine she knows that the Jedi won't let Anakin stay in touch with his mother, nor can they be expected to do anything further to help Anakin's mother or friends. So Padme Padmé decides she will help Shmi Skywalker herself, and gives Anakin a secret way to keep in touch with her. Anakin, in turn, decides that he will do what he can to find out for Padme Padmé what has become of her sister.



* IWillFindYou: When he learns Padme's baby sister was taken away by the Jedi Temple, Anakin promises he will help her to reunite the girl with the Naberrie family.

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* IWillFindYou: When he learns Padme's Padmé’s baby sister was taken away by the Jedi Temple, Anakin promises he will help her to reunite the girl with the Naberrie family.



* UndergroundRailroad: The Tatooine freedom trail, a secret network that helps escaped slaves. Shmi Skywalker is a member even before being freed, and Padme helps out with money and equipment, as well as helping set up places offworld for slaves to escape to.

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* UndergroundRailroad: The Tatooine freedom trail, a secret network that helps escaped slaves. Shmi Skywalker is a member even before being freed, and Padme Padmé helps out with money and equipment, as well as helping set up places offworld for slaves to escape to.
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** Aloo snoops a bit in Count Dooku's file and learns he too was born under another name and taken away, leading her to ponder on her identity.
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* NotSoDifferent: Anakin draws more and more uncomfortable parallels between the Jedi way of living and slavery.
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* ExactWords: Anakin's relations with most of the Jedi Masters tends to rely on him describing exactly what he's doing, while in reality he holds a different viewpoint or motive entirely. He calls these "Jedi Answers," and it's clear where Obi-Wan got his "Certain point of view" excuse from.


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* StatingTheSimpleSolution: Anakin is perplexed by how the planet Kamino was erased from the Jedi Archives. Shmi has to point out that the Jedi Archives are not the only database in the galaxy.
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* AffectionateNickname: "Grandmother" is Anakin's way to show his respect and fondness for Madam Jocasta.


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* IntergenerationalFriendship: Anakin seems to have a talent for creating these.
** Madam Jocasta quite enjoys his help in the library, enough to grumble over the other Masters constantly borrowing her "assistant".
** Many Padawans grow to consider him a CoolBigBro, but the fic mainly focuses on his relationship with Aloo.
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* IWillFindYou: When he learns Padme's baby sister was taken away by the Jedi Temple, Anakin promises he will help her to reunite the girl with the Naberrie family. [[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming He does.]]

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* IWillFindYou: When he learns Padme's baby sister was taken away by the Jedi Temple, Anakin promises he will help her to reunite the girl with the Naberrie family. [[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming He does.]]
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* DeliberateValuesDissonance: The ''raison d'être'' for the story, since the Naberries don't agree at all with the Jedi tradition of totally cutting children from their families and want nothing more than to learn their youngest daughter's whereabouts.
* {{Expy}}: Here, Madam Jocasta Nu is basically [[Franchise/{{Discworld}} Granny Weatherwax]] InSpace.


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* IWillFindYou: When he learns Padme's baby sister was taken away by the Jedi Temple, Anakin promises he will help her to reunite the girl with the Naberrie family. [[CrowningMomentOfHeartwarming He does.]]


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* ScaryLibrarian: Madam Jocasta is quite ''upset'' to realize someone is deleting precious data in her library.
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''Heretic Pride'' is a Franchise/StarWars AU fanfic by Fialleril.

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''Heretic Pride'' ''[[https://archiveofourown.org/works/13455561/chapters/30844053 Heretic Pride]]'' is a Franchise/StarWars AU fanfic ''Franchise/StarWars'' AlternateUniverseFic by Fialleril.
Fialleril (who also wrote ''Fanfic/DoubleAgentVader'').

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In this version of events, Padme has a younger sister who was taken away to be an apprentice Jedi, never to see her family again. As a result, Padme is rather less idealistic about the Jedi and their principles of detachment, and when Qui-Gon takes Anakin Skywalker from Tatooine she knows that the Jedi won't let Anakin stay in touch with his mother, nor can they be expected to do anything further to help Anakin's mother or friends. So Padme decides she will help Shmi Skywalker herself, and gives Anakin a secret way to keep in touch with her. Anakin, in turn, decides that he will do what he can to find out for Padme what has become of her sister.

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In this version of events, Padme has a younger sister who was taken away to be an apprentice Jedi, never to see her family again. As a result, Padme is rather less idealistic about the Jedi and their principles doctrine of detachment, and when Qui-Gon takes Anakin Skywalker from Tatooine she knows that the Jedi won't let Anakin stay in touch with his mother, nor can they be expected to do anything further to help Anakin's mother or friends. So Padme decides she will help Shmi Skywalker herself, and gives Anakin a secret way to keep in touch with her. Anakin, in turn, decides that he will do what he can to find out for Padme what has become of her sister.


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* InSpiteOfANail: Because Shmi is freed from slavery earlier, she never meets and marries Cliegg Lars--but she still meets and befriends Owen and Beru under other circumstances, because some of the author's other works had developed Shmi's friendship with Beru and the author wanted to show a version of that in this timeline.


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* RecurringDreams: Aloo has a recurring dream that's actually a memory of the family she was taken from when she was too young to still remember them consciously.
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''Heretic Pride'' is a Franchise/StarWars AU fanfic by Fialleril.

In this version of events, Padme has a younger sister who was taken away to be an apprentice Jedi, never to see her family again. As a result, Padme is rather less idealistic about the Jedi and their principles of detachment, and when Qui-Gon takes Anakin Skywalker from Tatooine she knows that the Jedi won't let Anakin stay in touch with his mother, nor can they be expected to do anything further to help Anakin's mother or friends. So Padme decides she will help Shmi Skywalker herself, and gives Anakin a secret way to keep in touch with her. Anakin, in turn, decides that he will do what he can to find out for Padme what has become of her sister.

The consequences of their actions spread out like ripples on the surface of a tranquil pool.
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!!This work contains examples of:

* MeaningfulRename:
** Anakin recalls that one of his ancestors adopted the surname "Skywalker" for herself because her family had been split up and moved around by the slavemasters and she didn't know what her real family name was. It's a homage to a folk hero called Ekkreth, the Sky Walker.
** Jedi younglings who come from a famous family, like Ilaré Naberrie, are given new names to prevent them from finding out who their birth families were and reforming an attachment. This is one of the things that makes it more difficult for Anakin to find out what became of Ilaré.
* MythologyGag:
-->“Ah,” says Anakin. “I knew I had a bad feeling about this mission.”\\
Rabé rolls her eyes. “No, you just picked that up from Obi-Wan,” she says. “He always has a bad feeling about everything.”
* StealthInsult: On Tatooine, there is a saying, "help from the Core", which means either no help at all or help that is worse than nothing. Anakin uses it in a conversation with Chancellor Palpatine to describe how helpful Palpatine is, and Palpatine takes it at face value.
* TheTalk: Master Windu has the job of giving the Talk to young Jedi when they reach an appropriate age, with a large side of warning against succumbing to temptation. The young Jedi tend to find it hideously embarrassing.
* TitledAfterTheSong: The fic is named after a song by Music/TheMountainGoats, and the chapter titles are all Mountain Goats lyrics.
* TryToFitThatOnABusinessCard: His Royal Highness, Lord of the Fifteen Mysteries, Prince of the Infinite Isles, August and Radiant Fount of Wisdom, Crown of Justice and Throne of Mercy, King Ordained by All the Powers of the Cosmic Oneness, Marlonartan, Seventh of that Line.
* UndergroundRailroad: The Tatooine freedom trail, a secret network that helps escaped slaves. Shmi Skywalker is a member even before being freed, and Padme helps out with money and equipment, as well as helping set up places offworld for slaves to escape to.
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