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** Taken UpToEleven after [[TraumaCongaLine Jin Zixuan, Jiang Yanli and Wei Wuxian die in succession,]] whereupon Jiang Cheng retreats to the back of his mind and leaves Shen Jiu in charge, only coming out to interact with Jin Ling (and possibly Nie Huaisang).
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** Taken UpToEleven Exaggerated after [[TraumaCongaLine Jin Zixuan, Jiang Yanli and Wei Wuxian die in succession,]] whereupon Jiang Cheng retreats to the back of his mind and leaves Shen Jiu in charge, only coming out to interact with Jin Ling (and possibly Nie Huaisang).
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* IHatePastMe: Jiang Cheng is utterly appaled by Shen Jiu's life of misery and loathing, leading him to reject his previous incarnation's memories and form a SplitPersonality.
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* IHatePastMe: Jiang Cheng is utterly appaled appalled by Shen Jiu's life of misery and loathing, leading him to reject his previous incarnation's memories and form a SplitPersonality.
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* MiseryPoker: Defied. After Nie Mingjue dies, he breaks down on Shen Jiu and calls himself selfish for doing so, as the other has been through much worse. [[TheResenter To Shen Jiu's own bewilderment,]] this infuriates him.
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* MiseryPoker: Defied. After Nie Mingjue his brother dies, he Nie Huaisang breaks down on Shen Jiu and calls himself selfish for doing so, as the other has been through much worse. [[TheResenter To Shen Jiu's own bewilderment,]] this infuriates him.
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* Chapter 57[[note]]''Flower Viewing by the River''[[/note]] is a chapter of mostly fluff, where Jiang Cheng and Jin Ling have a peaceful day watching fish near Yunmeng.
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* FreudianExcuseIsNoExcuse: Yes, Jin Guangyao was dealt a pretty crappy hand in life when he was born the son of a prostitute and a self-centered bastard who would never have loved him in a thousand years, but he was given several chances to build positive connections with other people and decided he wouldn't take them, so Jiang Wanyin isn't feeling too broken over his ultimate fate.
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* Tragic Keepsake: After Jin Zixuan dies, the [[FriendshipTrinket hair ribbon]] exchanged between him, Jiang Cheng and Nie Huaisang becomes a painful reminder of his death instead.
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* Tragic Keepsake: TragicKeepsake: After Jin Zixuan dies, the [[FriendshipTrinket hair ribbon]] exchanged between him, Jiang Cheng and Nie Huaisang becomes a painful reminder of his death instead.
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''[[https://archiveofourown.org/works/28284429/chapters/69310725 Hating the Hand Life has Dealt Us]]'' is a crossover fic between ''Literature/RenZhaFanPaiZiJiuXiTong'' and ''Literature/MoDaoZuShi'', written by anonkun on Website/ArchiveOfOurOwn.
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''[[https://archiveofourown.org/works/28284429/chapters/69310725 Hating the Hand Life has Dealt Us]]'' is a crossover fic between ''Literature/RenZhaFanPaiZiJiuXiTong'' ''Literature/TheScumVillainsSelfSavingSystemRenZhaFanpaiZijiuXitong'' and ''Literature/MoDaoZuShi'', ''Literature/GrandmasterOfDemonicCultivationMoDaoZuShi'', written by anonkun on Website/ArchiveOfOurOwn.
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* FlechetteStorm: Shen Jiu can pull this off using qi-infused leaves (à la [[Literature/RenZhaFanPaiZiJiuXiTong Shen Qingqiu]]), but he doesn't use too many of them in one go in this fic as [[SecretArt Jiang Cheng isn't supposed to know this technique and needs to keep it a secret from other cultivators]].
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* FlechetteStorm: Shen Jiu can pull this off using qi-infused leaves (à la [[Literature/RenZhaFanPaiZiJiuXiTong [[Literature/TheScumVillainsSelfSavingSystemRenZhaFanpaiZijiuXitong Shen Qingqiu]]), but he doesn't use too many of them in one go in this fic as [[SecretArt Jiang Cheng isn't supposed to know this technique and needs to keep it a secret from other cultivators]].
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* VengeanceFeelsEmpty: Discussed between Jiang Cheng and Nie Huaisang right before the latter launches his plot against the one responsible for his brother's demise. Huaisang's conclusion is that revenge won't bring Nie Mingjue back, but it will prevent Jin Guangyao from ruining more lives.
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* ASharedSuffering: Jiang Cheng has this with Lan Wangji, and they share a tenous bond over Wei Wuxian's death. Their means of coping are vastly different, however, meaning that they clash a lot and are ''not'' on friendly terms.
* BreatherEpisode: There are several scattered throughout the fic, but they become more obviously lighter as the story progresses and grows angstier.
**Chapter 35[[note]]''The Sounds of Lotus Pier''[[/note]], which is a slice of life fluff chapter set in Lotus Pier before the hunting competition at Phoenix Mountain.
**The latter half of Chapter 39[[note]]''Needing to Stay Firm''[[/note]] and Chapter 40[[note]]''Jin Zixuan and the Art of Deduction''[[/note]] both count as this as they are also slice of life chapters, instead of plot-centric chapters.
**Chapter 44[[note]]''I Don't Understand, What is This Thing Called Happiness?''[[/note]] is a generally fluffy chapter where Jin Ling is born and Shen Jiu finally starts believing that he can be happy.
**The [[WhamEpisode next chapter]] [[note]]ominously titled ''The You Who Wished To Live, Losing Sight of the Future''[[/note]] starts out like one, but the Plot Twist is ruined as readers who are familiar with the original work are already aware that it will be [[MoodWhiplash subverted]] by [[DoomedByCanon Jin Zixuan's death.]]
**A fair part of Chapter 53[[note]]''Child Raising, Shen Jiu's (Not-So?) Detested''[[/note]] is about Shen Jiu and Jiang Cheng taking care of Jin Ling as a toddler.
*Chapter 57[[note]]''Flower Viewing by the River''[[/note]] is a chapter of mostly fluff, where Jiang Cheng and Jin Ling have a peaceful day watching fish near Yunmeng.
**Chapter 35[[note]]''The Sounds of Lotus Pier''[[/note]], which is a slice of life fluff chapter set in Lotus Pier before the hunting competition at Phoenix Mountain.
**The latter half of Chapter 39[[note]]''Needing to Stay Firm''[[/note]] and Chapter 40[[note]]''Jin Zixuan and the Art of Deduction''[[/note]] both count as this as they are also slice of life chapters, instead of plot-centric chapters.
**Chapter 44[[note]]''I Don't Understand, What is This Thing Called Happiness?''[[/note]] is a generally fluffy chapter where Jin Ling is born and Shen Jiu finally starts believing that he can be happy.
**The [[WhamEpisode next chapter]] [[note]]ominously titled ''The You Who Wished To Live, Losing Sight of the Future''[[/note]] starts out like one, but the Plot Twist is ruined as readers who are familiar with the original work are already aware that it will be [[MoodWhiplash subverted]] by [[DoomedByCanon Jin Zixuan's death.]]
**A fair part of Chapter 53[[note]]''Child Raising, Shen Jiu's (Not-So?) Detested''[[/note]] is about Shen Jiu and Jiang Cheng taking care of Jin Ling as a toddler.
*Chapter 57[[note]]''Flower Viewing by the River''[[/note]] is a chapter of mostly fluff, where Jiang Cheng and Jin Ling have a peaceful day watching fish near Yunmeng.
* ButtMonkey: PlayedForLaughs and [[LampshadeHanging lampshaded]] with Jin Zixuan, who is almost always the butt of Shen Jiu's snarky jabs.
-->'''Jin Zixuan:''' Why is it always me though?
-->'''Jiang Cheng:''' Because you're easier to make fun of than Huaisang, and I would never disrespect A-Jie like that.
* CombatHandFan: Shen Jiu can use any hand fan as one of these by channeling qi through them. He suggests that Nie Huaisang try to train with one of them and impresses him with a demonstration. He (and by extension Jiang Cheng) later use one as one of his weapons during the Sunshot Campaign, which Wei Wuxian points out.
-->'''Jin Zixuan:''' Why is it always me though?
-->'''Jiang Cheng:''' Because you're easier to make fun of than Huaisang, and I would never disrespect A-Jie like that.
* CombatHandFan: Shen Jiu can use any hand fan as one of these by channeling qi through them. He suggests that Nie Huaisang try to train with one of them and impresses him with a demonstration. He (and by extension Jiang Cheng) later use one as one of his weapons during the Sunshot Campaign, which Wei Wuxian points out.
* DotingParent: Jin Zixuan, who Jiang Cheng says is a "complete sap" when it comes to his son Jin Ling.
-->'''Jiang Cheng:''' Zixuan was all, ‘Ah! My little son is going to be such an amazing swordsman when he grows up! A-Ling, you’re going to [[SoProudOfYou make papa so proud]]!’ What an idiot. A-Ling is going to be the [[SpoiledBrat most spoiled child]] ever at this rate.
* EmotionSuppression: Shen Jiu deals with Jin Zixuan's death in this manner, enabling him to focus on running the Jiang sect in Jiang Cheng's stead.
-->'''Nie Huaisang:''' How did you do it? How did you move forward after everything?
-->'''Shen Jiu:''' ...sometimes that is what you must do, regardless of how you feel.
* ExpositoryPronoun: A way to tell apart Jiang Cheng and Shen Jiu is by how they refer to themselves. Jiang Cheng uses "I", while Shen Jiu uses the more formal "this one" or variations thereof[[note]]this sect leader, this uncle, etc.[[/note]].
* FakeRelationship: Mentioned as Nie Huaisang's plan to deter Jiang Cheng's suitors.
-->'''Nie Huaisang:''' Oh, I know! Why don’t we pretend to court each other? Wait, Wanyin, come back-
* FlechetteStorm: Shen Jiu can pull this off using qi-infused leaves (à la [[Literature/RenZhaFanPaiZiJiuXiTong Shen Qingqiu]]), but he doesn't use too many of them in one go in this fic as [[SecretArt Jiang Cheng isn't supposed to know this technique and needs to keep it a secret from other cultivators]].
-->'''Jiang Cheng:''' Zixuan was all, ‘Ah! My little son is going to be such an amazing swordsman when he grows up! A-Ling, you’re going to [[SoProudOfYou make papa so proud]]!’ What an idiot. A-Ling is going to be the [[SpoiledBrat most spoiled child]] ever at this rate.
* EmotionSuppression: Shen Jiu deals with Jin Zixuan's death in this manner, enabling him to focus on running the Jiang sect in Jiang Cheng's stead.
-->'''Nie Huaisang:''' How did you do it? How did you move forward after everything?
-->'''Shen Jiu:''' ...sometimes that is what you must do, regardless of how you feel.
* ExpositoryPronoun: A way to tell apart Jiang Cheng and Shen Jiu is by how they refer to themselves. Jiang Cheng uses "I", while Shen Jiu uses the more formal "this one" or variations thereof[[note]]this sect leader, this uncle, etc.[[/note]].
* FakeRelationship: Mentioned as Nie Huaisang's plan to deter Jiang Cheng's suitors.
-->'''Nie Huaisang:''' Oh, I know! Why don’t we pretend to court each other? Wait, Wanyin, come back-
* FlechetteStorm: Shen Jiu can pull this off using qi-infused leaves (à la [[Literature/RenZhaFanPaiZiJiuXiTong Shen Qingqiu]]), but he doesn't use too many of them in one go in this fic as [[SecretArt Jiang Cheng isn't supposed to know this technique and needs to keep it a secret from other cultivators]].
* FriendshipDenial: Jiang Cheng and Jin Zixuan do this mutually despite them acting in a very friendly manner with each other in private.
-->The two of them stared at each other, neither willing to back down and acknowledge the simple fact that they were people who had feelings and friends.
-->They silently agreed to change the subject.
**When questioned...
--->'''Nie Huaisang:''' If you’re not friends, what are you?
--->'''Jin Zixuan:''' [[ThatCameOutWrong A relationship with benefits.]] Uh, ranting benefits?
--->'''Jiang Cheng:''' Acquaintances. Who sometimes talk shit to each other.
--->'''Nie Huaisang:''' Sounds like friends to me.
* FriendshipTrinket: There are two of these in the fic thus far, both of which mark the friendship between Jiang Cheng/Shen Jiu, Jin Zixuan and Nie Huaisang.
**During the aftermath of the Xuanwu Incident, they [[ImportantHairAccessory exchange hairties]] as part of their [[PaperThinDisguise disguise]] while sneaking past Wen territory. Jiang Cheng/Shen Jiu owns Nie Huaisang's hair ribbon, while Nie Huaisang and Jin Zixuan both own a half of Jiang Cheng's respectively. Jiang Cheng keeps the ribbon tied to his arm under his robes even after things settle down.
**Later on, Nie Huaisang paints a set of fans with an inscription of an impromptu poem by Shen Jiu, Jin Zixuan and himself to give to Jiang Cheng and Jin Zixuan, as a keepsake for the bonds they had forged during the aforementioned journey. Shen Jiu does not use his as he sees it as too precious to use, revealing just how much he treasures it.
--->'''Shen Jiu:''' This one would prefer not having their most treasured ones be damaged by use.
-->The two of them stared at each other, neither willing to back down and acknowledge the simple fact that they were people who had feelings and friends.
-->They silently agreed to change the subject.
**When questioned...
--->'''Nie Huaisang:''' If you’re not friends, what are you?
--->'''Jin Zixuan:''' [[ThatCameOutWrong A relationship with benefits.]] Uh, ranting benefits?
--->'''Jiang Cheng:''' Acquaintances. Who sometimes talk shit to each other.
--->'''Nie Huaisang:''' Sounds like friends to me.
* FriendshipTrinket: There are two of these in the fic thus far, both of which mark the friendship between Jiang Cheng/Shen Jiu, Jin Zixuan and Nie Huaisang.
**During the aftermath of the Xuanwu Incident, they [[ImportantHairAccessory exchange hairties]] as part of their [[PaperThinDisguise disguise]] while sneaking past Wen territory. Jiang Cheng/Shen Jiu owns Nie Huaisang's hair ribbon, while Nie Huaisang and Jin Zixuan both own a half of Jiang Cheng's respectively. Jiang Cheng keeps the ribbon tied to his arm under his robes even after things settle down.
**Later on, Nie Huaisang paints a set of fans with an inscription of an impromptu poem by Shen Jiu, Jin Zixuan and himself to give to Jiang Cheng and Jin Zixuan, as a keepsake for the bonds they had forged during the aforementioned journey. Shen Jiu does not use his as he sees it as too precious to use, revealing just how much he treasures it.
--->'''Shen Jiu:''' This one would prefer not having their most treasured ones be damaged by use.
* HeroicSafeMode: Occurs several times throughout the story, usually in the form of Shen Jiu's personality taking over control of the body when Jiang Cheng is overwhelmed.
-->'''Shen Jiu:''' You’re a complete mess right now. Shut up and let this one handle things until you’re back with some semblance of a stable mind, why don’t you?
**Taken UpToEleven after [[TraumaCongaLine Jin Zixuan, Jiang Yanli and Wei Wuxian die in succession,]] whereupon Jiang Cheng retreats to the back of his mind and leaves Shen Jiu in charge, only coming out to interact with Jin Ling (and possibly Nie Huaisang).
-->'''Shen Jiu:''' You’re a complete mess right now. Shut up and let this one handle things until you’re back with some semblance of a stable mind, why don’t you?
**Taken UpToEleven after [[TraumaCongaLine Jin Zixuan, Jiang Yanli and Wei Wuxian die in succession,]] whereupon Jiang Cheng retreats to the back of his mind and leaves Shen Jiu in charge, only coming out to interact with Jin Ling (and possibly Nie Huaisang).
* InSpiteOfANail: [[LampshadeHanging Lampshaded]] in the synposis and within the fic itself. Despite Jiang Cheng remembering Shen Jiu's memories and creating a few minor differences from canon, they have no noticeable effect on the overarching plot of MDZS - [[TheStationsOfTheCanon the same events occur]] and [[DoomedByCanon the same people die]]. Justified, as the fic is canon compliant.
-->This changes... not enough. Not nearly enough.
* MarryForLove: What Jin Zixuan wants to do.
->'''Jin Zixuan:''' I’d rather fall in love with someone naturally than try to force myself to like someone for an arranged marriage.
**Later, he agrees to a MarriageOfConvenience, at which point Jiang Cheng brings this up.
--->'''Jin Zixuan:''' I do believe I could [[MarriageBeforeRomance properly fall in love with your sister one day.]] And, well, I guess it would [[PlatonicDeclarationofLove still be marrying out of love. Just a different love,]] you know?
* MarriageOfConvenience: Jin Zixuan marries Jiang Yanli so he has a political reason for Lanling Jin to ally with and support the Yunmeng Jiang in the fight against the Wens.
* MiseryPoker: Defied. After Nie Mingjue dies, he breaks down on Shen Jiu and calls himself selfish for doing so, as the other has been through much worse. [[TheResenter To Shen Jiu's own bewilderment,]] this infuriates him.
-->'''Shen Jiu:''' Don’t say such a stupid thing! So what if my situation was worse? What does that have to do with how you should feel!
* MistakenForGay: Jiang Cheng [[FriendshipDenial vehemently denies his friendship]] with Jin Zixuan, who misunderstands and thinks that Jiang Cheng is denying being in a gay relationship with him instead.
-->'''Jiang Cheng:''' Wha- No! Huaisang, we're not...! Me and Jin Zixuan...?
-->'''Jin Zixuan:''' We're not what? [pales] [[GayEuphemism Cutsleeves]]? N-not that there's anything wrong with being a cutsleeve?
-->'''Jiang Cheng:''' No, that's not it, you idiot! Friends! [[FriendshipDenial We're not ''friends''!]]
**Jin Zixuan's response [[DiggingYourselfDeeper does not help recitify the misunderstanding at all.]]
-->'''Jin Zixuan:'''Oh! Right, yes! [[SuspiciouslySpecificDenial We are definitely not that! Since we are not that, we also are definitely not together in that other way either!]]
-->This changes... not enough. Not nearly enough.
* MarryForLove: What Jin Zixuan wants to do.
->'''Jin Zixuan:''' I’d rather fall in love with someone naturally than try to force myself to like someone for an arranged marriage.
**Later, he agrees to a MarriageOfConvenience, at which point Jiang Cheng brings this up.
--->'''Jin Zixuan:''' I do believe I could [[MarriageBeforeRomance properly fall in love with your sister one day.]] And, well, I guess it would [[PlatonicDeclarationofLove still be marrying out of love. Just a different love,]] you know?
* MarriageOfConvenience: Jin Zixuan marries Jiang Yanli so he has a political reason for Lanling Jin to ally with and support the Yunmeng Jiang in the fight against the Wens.
* MiseryPoker: Defied. After Nie Mingjue dies, he breaks down on Shen Jiu and calls himself selfish for doing so, as the other has been through much worse. [[TheResenter To Shen Jiu's own bewilderment,]] this infuriates him.
-->'''Shen Jiu:''' Don’t say such a stupid thing! So what if my situation was worse? What does that have to do with how you should feel!
* MistakenForGay: Jiang Cheng [[FriendshipDenial vehemently denies his friendship]] with Jin Zixuan, who misunderstands and thinks that Jiang Cheng is denying being in a gay relationship with him instead.
-->'''Jiang Cheng:''' Wha- No! Huaisang, we're not...! Me and Jin Zixuan...?
-->'''Jin Zixuan:''' We're not what? [pales] [[GayEuphemism Cutsleeves]]? N-not that there's anything wrong with being a cutsleeve?
-->'''Jiang Cheng:''' No, that's not it, you idiot! Friends! [[FriendshipDenial We're not ''friends''!]]
**Jin Zixuan's response [[DiggingYourselfDeeper does not help recitify the misunderstanding at all.]]
-->'''Jin Zixuan:'''Oh! Right, yes! [[SuspiciouslySpecificDenial We are definitely not that! Since we are not that, we also are definitely not together in that other way either!]]
*NotSoSimilar: [[LampshadeHanging Lampshaded]] by Nie Huaisang, regarding Jiang Cheng and Nie Mingjue. The inverse is also lampshaded for Jiang Cheng and Nie Huaisang himself in the same breath.
-->'''Nie Huaisang:''' So similar, yet so different.
-->If he was different from Nie Huaisang on the outside, and similar on the inside, then it was the opposite with Nie Mingjue. He supposed that was what Nie Huaisang was talking about.
-->'''Nie Huaisang:''' So similar, yet so different.
-->If he was different from Nie Huaisang on the outside, and similar on the inside, then it was the opposite with Nie Mingjue. He supposed that was what Nie Huaisang was talking about.
* OnlyFriend: Jiang Cheng acknowledges Nie Huaisang this during his stay in the Cloud Recesses, although Jin Zixuan becomes his friend not long after [[FriendshipDenial despite their mutual refusal to admit it.]] [[{{Irony}} This comes true later when the latter dies.]]
-->'''Jiang Cheng:''' Huaisang, you are both my best and worst friend.
-->'''Nie Huaisang:''' Huh? [grins] Oh, I get it. Because I'm your only-
-->'''Jiang Cheng:''' Don't say it out loud!
-->'''Jiang Cheng:''' Huaisang, you are both my best and worst friend.
-->'''Nie Huaisang:''' Huh? [grins] Oh, I get it. Because I'm your only-
-->'''Jiang Cheng:''' Don't say it out loud!
* PositiveFriendInfluence: Shen Jiu and Jin Zixuan have elements of this in their relationship. Jin Zixuan [[TheDefroster helps Shen Jiu open up]] and [[RestoredMyFaithinHumanity regain hope in the world]], while Shen Jiu gives Jin Zixuan [[BrutalHonesty harsh but true criticisms]], helping him grow out of his naivety.
* ReformedCriminal: Shen Jiu gives demonic cultivators the option to give up demonic cultivation and join Yunmeng Jiang instead if he deems them not too far gone to be saved.
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* ReunionVow: Defied. Before Jiang Cheng and Wei Wuxian set off for the Wen indoctrination camp, they talk to Jiang Yanli, who asks if their reassurances about coming home safe are a promise.
-->For some reason, the idea of a ‘promise’ made Jiang Cheng uneasy. “There’s no need for it to be a promise. If we say we’re going to get through this, then we’ll get through this.”
* SafetyInIndifference: Shen Jiu initially claims to Nie Huaisang that he does not care about the world, presumably for this reason. Shen Jiu eventually warms up to the rest of the cast as the story progresses and subverts this trope in Chapter 44[[note]]''I Don't Understand, What is This Thing Called Happiness?''[[/note]].
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* ReunionVow: Defied. Before Jiang Cheng and Wei Wuxian set off for the Wen indoctrination camp, they talk to Jiang Yanli, who asks if their reassurances about coming home safe are a promise.
-->For some reason, the idea of a ‘promise’ made Jiang Cheng uneasy. “There’s no need for it to be a promise. If we say we’re going to get through this, then we’ll get through this.”
* SafetyInIndifference: Shen Jiu initially claims to Nie Huaisang that he does not care about the world, presumably for this reason. Shen Jiu eventually warms up to the rest of the cast as the story progresses and subverts this trope in Chapter 44[[note]]''I Don't Understand, What is This Thing Called Happiness?''[[/note]].
* TalkingToThemself: As Jiang Cheng and Shen Jiu share abstract emotions but not coherent thought, they do this if they need to talk to one another, although this doesn't occur very often.
* Tragic Keepsake: After Jin Zixuan dies, the [[FriendshipTrinket hair ribbon]] exchanged between him, Jiang Cheng and Nie Huaisang becomes a painful reminder of his death instead.
-->It wasn’t as if they could trade back at this point. Not with the other half of Jiang Cheng’s ribbon likely gone for good now.
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* YouAreBetterThanYouThinkYouAre: Jin Zixuan bluntly tells Jiang Cheng that no, he doesn't believe the person who tries to help him to grow out of his naivety is rotten to the core.
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* YouAreBetterThanYouThinkYouAre: Jin YouAreBetterThanYouThinkYouAre:
**Jin Zixuan bluntly tells Jiang Cheng that no, he doesn't believe the person who tries to help him to grow out of his naivety is rotten to thecore.core.
**Nie Huaisang reveals that he initially befriended Jiang Cheng because [[YouRemindMeOfX he reminded Nie Huaisang of his brother]] and because he was interesting, and tells Shen Jiu that he isn't as kind as Shen Jiu is making him out to be as he believes that his acts of friendship were all based off of ulterior motives. This does not dimish the value of what Huaisang has done for Jiang Cheng and Shen Jiu, and the latter makes it clear that he does not care about Nie Huaisang's supposed "ulterior motives".
--->'''Shen Jiu:''' Is that supposed to change anything? Everyone has an ulterior motive behind wishing to get close to someone. You are making this far more complicated than it is.
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**Nie Huaisang reveals that he initially befriended Jiang Cheng because [[YouRemindMeOfX he reminded Nie Huaisang of his brother]] and because he was interesting, and tells Shen Jiu that he isn't as kind as Shen Jiu is making him out to be as he believes that his acts of friendship were all based off of ulterior motives. This does not dimish the value of what Huaisang has done for Jiang Cheng and Shen Jiu, and the latter makes it clear that he does not care about Nie Huaisang's supposed "ulterior motives".
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** Lan Xichen's soft countenance is a dead ringer for Yue Qingyuan, leading Jiang Cheng to avoid the Lan Sect heir as much as possible.possible.
* ZeroApprovalGambit: Shen Jiu, in at least two instances:
**He intentionally lets unsavoury rumors about himself spread with Nie Huaisang's (reluctant) help and fans them in order to deter other clans from attacking Lotus Pier using [[TheDreaded his reputation]].
**He also makes it seem like he has a [[TheLostLenore Lost Lenore]] who he can [[TheMourningAfter never get over]] in order to deter any suitors, simultaneously spawning a whole (mostly unflattering) rumor mill about Jiang Cheng's love life and convincing the public that Jiang Cheng is a terrible romance option.
**Nie Huaisang is understandably displeased by this gambit.
-->'''Nie Huaisang:''' Why do you insist on painting yourself in the worst light possible? It pains me as both your confidant, and an artist! Let me paint you with beautiful lighting!
* ZeroApprovalGambit: Shen Jiu, in at least two instances:
**He intentionally lets unsavoury rumors about himself spread with Nie Huaisang's (reluctant) help and fans them in order to deter other clans from attacking Lotus Pier using [[TheDreaded his reputation]].
**He also makes it seem like he has a [[TheLostLenore Lost Lenore]] who he can [[TheMourningAfter never get over]] in order to deter any suitors, simultaneously spawning a whole (mostly unflattering) rumor mill about Jiang Cheng's love life and convincing the public that Jiang Cheng is a terrible romance option.
**Nie Huaisang is understandably displeased by this gambit.
-->'''Nie Huaisang:''' Why do you insist on painting yourself in the worst light possible? It pains me as both your confidant, and an artist! Let me paint you with beautiful lighting!
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* PragmaticHero: Due to Shen Jiu's influence, Jiang Cheng won't hesitate to hide a secret technique, disguise himself as a peasant and employ a demonic cultivator just to gain the upper edge in a fight.
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* SpottingTheThread: After getting his golden core restored, Jiang Cheng cannot help but notice how much the wild energy reminds him of Wei Wuxian.
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* WarIsHell: Jiang Cheng's opinion of war is that when you look at the events and consequences, war is seldom righteous.
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* AlwaysSecondBest: A huge problem of Shen Jiu and his reincarnation Jiang Cheng is that no matter how much he tries, someone (Luo Binghe for Shen Jiu, Wei Wuxian for Jiang Cheng) will effortlessly surpass him. It causes him a lot of trouble.
* BewareTheNiceOnes: Nie Huaisang manifests a disturbing enthusiasm about committing banditism and highwayrobbery.robbery, freaking Jin Zixuan and Jiang Cheng.
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* DeathSeeker: Shen Jiu cannot understand why his awareness hadn't been dissolved after his horrendous demise, and isn't that bothered by the prospect of Jiang Cheng fully erasing him.
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* IHatePastMe: Jiang Cheng is utterly appaled by Shen Jiu's life of misery and loathing, leading him to reject his previous incarnation's memories and form a SplitPersonality.
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* YouAreBetterThanYouThinkYouAre: Jin Zixuan bluntly tells Jiang Cheng that no, he doesn't believe the person who tries to help him to grow out of his naivety is rotten to the core.
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* FreudianTrio: Nie Huaisang is the Id mainly focused on doing whatever he wants, Jiang Wanyin is the Superego fretting about being proper and saving face (moreso when Shen Jiu is at the wheel) and Jin Zixuan is the Ego who struggles to reconcile his desire to be good with the obligations of his status.
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* ObnoxiousInLaws: Subverted -- Jiang Cheng was ready to thoroughly hate Jin Zixuan for insulting his precious shijie, only to befriend the ShelteredAristocrat. He muses Wei Wuxian would likely murder him if he was to learn of it.
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** Wei Wuxian is such a potent reminder of Luo Binghe for being a StreetUrchin who nonetheless grows beloved by almost everyone he meets, Shen Jiu cannot help but feel wary of him. Then he starts to dabble into demonic cultivation, just like Luo Binghe started wielding the demonic blade Xin Mo...
** Lan Xichen's soft countenance is a dead ringer for Yue Qingyuan, leading Jiang Cheng to avoid the Lan Sect heir as much as possible.
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* SecretKeeper: Nie Huaisang actually noticed Jiang Wanyin was behaving a mite too weirdly and ultimately confront him while they're on the road with Jin Zixuan.
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OnlySaneMan: Between the lazy and thug-aspirant Nie Huaisang and aloof Jiang Cheng with his mental problems, Jin Zixuan disturbingly becomes this.
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PastLifeMemories: Downplayed, as Shen Jiu keeps some details firmly under wraps and Jiang Cheng avoids to truly poke into his former incarnation's past out of fear.
* PetTheDog: When Madam Yu finds her son practising his calligraphy, she bluntly calls him foolish but nonetheless praises his decision to have a skill of his own and reminds him to not stay awake too late in the night.
* SecretKeeper: Nie Huaisang actually noticed Jiang Wanyin was behaving a mite too weirdly and ultimately confront him while they're on the road with JinZixuan.
Zixuan. Both young men wind up deciding they're okay with their friend's weirdness and to not spread the word around.
*TrademarkFavouriteFoodSplitPersonality: Consequence of Jiang Cheng's disgust and rejection of his past life, Shen Jiu is his own person stuck within his reincarnation's head who occasionally takes control. However, Jiang Cheng's mounting trauma leads him to rely more and more on Shen Jiu, slowly hinting at a SplitPersonalityMerge.
* TrademarkFavouriteFood: If Shen Jiu enjoys [[SweetTooth tanghulu]], Jiang Cheng prefers his sister's lotus root pork rib soup.
* TragicDream: Jiang Cheng's greatest wish was for his DysfunctionalFamily to be truly loving and united. It never comes to pass.
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* TrademarkFavouriteFood: If Shen Jiu enjoys [[SweetTooth tanghulu]], Jiang Cheng prefers his sister's lotus root pork rib soup.
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''[[https://archiveofourown.org/works/28284429/chapters/69310725 Hating the Hand Life has Dealt Us]]'' is a crossover fic between ''Literature/RenZhaFanPaiZiJiuXiTong'' and ''Literature/MoDaoZuShi'', written by anonkun on Website/ArchiveOfOurOwn.
As foolish as Shen Jiu’s instincts told him it was, when he looked at Jiang Yanli and the home Jiang Cheng loved so much, he wanted to hope that maybe Jiang Cheng at least could have his own happiness.
As Jiang Cheng broke down, his home and family gone, Shen Jiu wondered why he had even bothered hoping for such a thing.
(Or: Jiang Cheng's soul remembers that it was Shen Jiu once upon a time. This changes... not enough. Not nearly enough.)
!Contains the following tropes
* BewareTheNiceOnes: Nie Huaisang manifests a disturbing enthousiasm about committing banditism and highway robbery.
* BrilliantButLazy: Nie Huaisang is genuinely intelligent, but he doesn't want to be bothered with anything else but poetry, painting and goofing around.
* FreudianTrio
* INeedToGoIronMyDog: Right after evading Wen patrols, Jin Zixuan muses he could claim he didn't immediately go back to Koi Tower because he wanted to visit brothels. Since his father is [[ReallyGetsAround Jin Guangshan]], it actually could work -- to Jin Zixuan's dismay and his friends' utter disgust.
* LiteralSplitPersonality
* NoSocialSkills
* ObnoxiousInLaws
* OnlySaneMan
* PastLifeMemories
* SecretKeeper: Nie Huaisang actually noticed Jiang Wanyin was behaving a mite too weirdly and ultimately confront him while they're on the road with Jin Zixuan.
* TrademarkFavouriteFood
* YouRemindMeOfX
As foolish as Shen Jiu’s instincts told him it was, when he looked at Jiang Yanli and the home Jiang Cheng loved so much, he wanted to hope that maybe Jiang Cheng at least could have his own happiness.
As Jiang Cheng broke down, his home and family gone, Shen Jiu wondered why he had even bothered hoping for such a thing.
(Or: Jiang Cheng's soul remembers that it was Shen Jiu once upon a time. This changes... not enough. Not nearly enough.)
!Contains the following tropes
* BewareTheNiceOnes: Nie Huaisang manifests a disturbing enthousiasm about committing banditism and highway robbery.
* BrilliantButLazy: Nie Huaisang is genuinely intelligent, but he doesn't want to be bothered with anything else but poetry, painting and goofing around.
* FreudianTrio
* INeedToGoIronMyDog: Right after evading Wen patrols, Jin Zixuan muses he could claim he didn't immediately go back to Koi Tower because he wanted to visit brothels. Since his father is [[ReallyGetsAround Jin Guangshan]], it actually could work -- to Jin Zixuan's dismay and his friends' utter disgust.
* LiteralSplitPersonality
* NoSocialSkills
* ObnoxiousInLaws
* OnlySaneMan
* PastLifeMemories
* SecretKeeper: Nie Huaisang actually noticed Jiang Wanyin was behaving a mite too weirdly and ultimately confront him while they're on the road with Jin Zixuan.
* TrademarkFavouriteFood
* YouRemindMeOfX
