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'''Dragon Ball Z Elsewhere''' is an ongoing fan comic written and drawn by RMK, started in 2003, following the life of Yamcha. It tries to explain his past, how he learned his starting fighting skills, why he did know about Son Gohan and Master Roshi, and his feelings about being the weakest between the Z warriors.
It starts following Yamcha's life from the victory against Cell, and then moving onward, explaining his past mostly through flashbacks.
While the overall tone of the comic is full of jokes, closer to the original DB than to DBZ, there are darker moments, and realistic considerations (for example about the trauma of being stabbed to almost death by the arm of an android).
It can be found [[http://dbzelsewhere.thecomicseries.com/ here]].
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!!Tropes
* AllWomenAreLustful: On the planet in the afterlife where heroines train. And there is a reason: they have still their bodies, with all their urges, but they cannot meet any male, but every few centuries or so. So, when they see the two young Goku and Yamcha, well in shape, with their bodies, on their planet...
--> '''Random Heroine''': ''Gorgeous men! Gorgeous men! Everyone, shave your legs!''
* AmazinglyEmbarrassingParents: Frieza is embarrassed when King Cold challenges Olibu to a PecFlex competition, and doubly so when King Cold loses.
* AmIJustAToyToYou: [[spoiler: Lord Maccha's wife realizes she is really just a tool for her lover Kyonshi. With whom she shares a three year old daughter, nonetheless.]]
* BlatantLies: Again, on the planet in the afterlife where heroines train. They are all scandalized by the coming of two living and gorgeous men, the fact that they happen to be scantly dressed is just because those are their training uniforms and don't you dare to say otherwise!
* CannibalismSuperpower: Kyonshi can't naturally change his body anymore as a vampire. While this gives him the benefit of never losing the good shape he reached at the peak of his life - a very good shape, since he is a master on the same tier of Roshi and Shen - this means he can't improve with training. But there are other means for vampires/sorcerers to make their body stronger...
* CantCatchUp: One of the inner demons of Yamcha is this, toward Goku. It is expressed beautifully in some bottom panels during sparring between the two in the afterlife. [[spoiler: Eventually, he manages to "catch up", to some extent, since he forces Goku to transform in Super Saiyan to surpass him. That is as much as he could hope for.]]
* CatapultNightmare: Yamcha has one, when he dreams of the time C20 almost killed him, and wakes up jumping, sweating and with the hands on his chest.
* CelestialBureaucracy: The Other World bureaucracy is...less than efficient. The BigBad is released due to a bureaucratic screw-up, while another screw-up allows [[spoiler:Dr. Gero]] to keep the enhancements he had when he was alive. North Kai is particularly incensed about the latter one.
* ComicallyMissingThePoint: On the aforementioned planet in the afterlife where dead heroines train, without seeing a male for century, and therefore horny as hell, Gorga, their leader, declares that Goku and Yamcha might stay only if they beat the ladies in a fight. Apparently the ladies were only trying to find an excuse to wrestle with a hot male, but they fight Goku and Goku, being Goku, remains completely oblivious and instead points out that if ''they all aim for the groin'', they become too predictable and easy to defeat.
* ConfidenceSabotage: What C20 does to Yamcha. It is debatable if it was willing sabotage or a matter-of-fact remark. The initial effect on Yamcha is the same, though.
--> '''C20:''' ''This is your nature. You excel and you still lose. Nothing is different.''
* ContinuityNod: Plenty. From explaining why Yamcha knew about Roshi and Son Gohan; to reply to the question "why they don't ask Shenron to become stronger?" [[spoiler: (they actually do, since they ask to gain the Saiyan zenkai ability -which they call simply "recovering power"- which is the most they can do while remaining human)]]; to "why Cell, Frieza and Cold had their bodies in the afterlife?" and more.
* DarkAndTroubledPast: Why Yamcha was living as a bandit all alone? Why he did know about Son Gohan? How he learned his signature move? Who was still strong enough to scar his face after he trained under Karin? All of this and more is replied by this trope.
* {{Determinator}}: What Yamcha tries to be after the Cell's saga. [[spoiler:Goku is also this when he fights Heiwa, and actually leaves Heiwa bloody and injured after their fight, but he ultimately loses.]]
* FaceYourFears: This is what Yamcha must do to complete his "quest".
* FailureHero: What he realizes to be between the Z warriors. At some point he clearly notes that, while he had his share of minor victories, when there was an [[JumpedAtTheCall important fight]], he always lost it. More and more badly.
* FanDisservice: Do you remember Olibu, the Earth hero resembling Hercules that Goku meets in the afterlife? Well, his sister sadly looks a '''lot''' like him. What makes it a big fan disservice is that we see her after we have seen the other -very good looking- heroines, so the comparison is jaw dropping.
* FanService: Some, since it inherits the tone of the original DB.
** In the afterlife, and specially on the planet where the dead heroines train
** Yunomi has some big ones, [[http://dbzelsewhere.thecomicseries.com/comics/366 as in this page]].
* GroinAttack: Yamcha when training with Goku in the afterlife. Apparently the tail is not the only weak point for saiyans, after all.
* MyFistForgivesYou: Goku does this to Yamcha as payback for Yamcha accidentally hitting him in the nuts with the Spirit Ball during their training.
* NinjaPirateZombieRobot: Kyonshi. He is the master of the Serpent style [[spoiler: -which, we learn, is one of the four main style with Turtle (masters: Roshi, Gohan and Ox), Crane (master: Shen) and Wolf (master: Maccha)-]], he is a vampire, and he is a sorcerer/warlock too. Anyway, if we remember that Roshi had a very large set of strange skills -including hypnosis- and was himself brother of a witch, it makes sense in the context.
%%* NobleDemon: Up to this point, Heiwa, apparently.
* NotAfraidOfYouAnymore: Yamcha against Kyonshi, the master of the Serpent style and the BigBad of his young years.
* PecFlex: King Cold challenges Olibu to a showdown, offering to surrender if he wins but enabling the villains trapped in Hell to go free if Cold wins. Everybody thinks that this will be a straight fight, but it's actually a ritual "combat" of both participants doing the best muscle man poses they can. All the other heroes and villains just watch in awkward silence except for Frieza, who's mortified when King Cold loses.
* SuddenlyShouting: North Kai does this when he learns that a bureaucratic foul-up led to [[spoiler:Dr. Gero]] keeping his android enhancements in the afterlife.
* TookALevelInBadass: When compared to his old friends and fellows, who probably have become stronger, but are still on the human side of the spectrum, Yamcha with his superhuman skills, decisely appears as to have taken one level in badass. Or two levels. Or three. So many levels that he one shots [[spoiler: Kyonshi, who is the same tier as the likes of master Roshi and Shen]], and his old friend Barrack compares Yamcha to a demi-god.
* TrainingFromHell: Yamcha tries to undergone one of this, using a gravity chamber up to 400G (and ending up in hospital, the first time) and entering the Room of Spirit and Time. According to him he has become probably stronger than Krilin (mostly, because he guesses Krilin has stopped training since he married C18) and maybe even stronger than Ten-Shi-Nan. He anyway realizes that, no matter the training, the human body has limits (the aforementioned 400G) that the Saiyan can easily surpass.
* WeakButSkilled: With no human transformation, Yamcha focused on learning Kaioken then mastering it with his gravity training. In a fight with Goku, Yamcha showed his Kaioken Kamehameha x40, forcing Goku to go Super Saiyan (a 50x multiplier) to withstand the attack. Even then, Yamcha outright says he can't beat a Super Saiyan. He also loses a sparring match against Piccolo when they train together.
* TheWorfEffect: The BigBad of the manga does this to [[spoiler:Goku]] as a means of illustrating just how powerful he is.
* WorldOfActionGirls: A literal one, in the afterlife. Heroines train on a separated planet, because, when they trained together with males, neither males nor females were training at their best and both were easily distracted.
* WorthyOpponent: [[spoiler: Goku, according to Heiwa. Yamcha, instead? Not so much.]]
'''Dragon Ball Z Elsewhere''' is an ongoing fan comic written and drawn by RMK, started in 2003, following the life of Yamcha. It tries to explain his past, how he learned his starting fighting skills, why he did know about Son Gohan and Master Roshi, and his feelings about being the weakest between the Z warriors.
It starts following Yamcha's life from the victory against Cell, and then moving onward, explaining his past mostly through flashbacks.
While the overall tone of the comic is full of jokes, closer to the original DB than to DBZ, there are darker moments, and realistic considerations (for example about the trauma of being stabbed to almost death by the arm of an android).
It can be found [[http://dbzelsewhere.thecomicseries.com/ here]].
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!!Tropes
* AllWomenAreLustful: On the planet in the afterlife where heroines train. And there is a reason: they have still their bodies, with all their urges, but they cannot meet any male, but every few centuries or so. So, when they see the two young Goku and Yamcha, well in shape, with their bodies, on their planet...
--> '''Random Heroine''': ''Gorgeous men! Gorgeous men! Everyone, shave your legs!''
* AmazinglyEmbarrassingParents: Frieza is embarrassed when King Cold challenges Olibu to a PecFlex competition, and doubly so when King Cold loses.
* AmIJustAToyToYou: [[spoiler: Lord Maccha's wife realizes she is really just a tool for her lover Kyonshi. With whom she shares a three year old daughter, nonetheless.]]
* BlatantLies: Again, on the planet in the afterlife where heroines train. They are all scandalized by the coming of two living and gorgeous men, the fact that they happen to be scantly dressed is just because those are their training uniforms and don't you dare to say otherwise!
* CannibalismSuperpower: Kyonshi can't naturally change his body anymore as a vampire. While this gives him the benefit of never losing the good shape he reached at the peak of his life - a very good shape, since he is a master on the same tier of Roshi and Shen - this means he can't improve with training. But there are other means for vampires/sorcerers to make their body stronger...
* CantCatchUp: One of the inner demons of Yamcha is this, toward Goku. It is expressed beautifully in some bottom panels during sparring between the two in the afterlife. [[spoiler: Eventually, he manages to "catch up", to some extent, since he forces Goku to transform in Super Saiyan to surpass him. That is as much as he could hope for.]]
* CatapultNightmare: Yamcha has one, when he dreams of the time C20 almost killed him, and wakes up jumping, sweating and with the hands on his chest.
* CelestialBureaucracy: The Other World bureaucracy is...less than efficient. The BigBad is released due to a bureaucratic screw-up, while another screw-up allows [[spoiler:Dr. Gero]] to keep the enhancements he had when he was alive. North Kai is particularly incensed about the latter one.
* ComicallyMissingThePoint: On the aforementioned planet in the afterlife where dead heroines train, without seeing a male for century, and therefore horny as hell, Gorga, their leader, declares that Goku and Yamcha might stay only if they beat the ladies in a fight. Apparently the ladies were only trying to find an excuse to wrestle with a hot male, but they fight Goku and Goku, being Goku, remains completely oblivious and instead points out that if ''they all aim for the groin'', they become too predictable and easy to defeat.
* ConfidenceSabotage: What C20 does to Yamcha. It is debatable if it was willing sabotage or a matter-of-fact remark. The initial effect on Yamcha is the same, though.
--> '''C20:''' ''This is your nature. You excel and you still lose. Nothing is different.''
* ContinuityNod: Plenty. From explaining why Yamcha knew about Roshi and Son Gohan; to reply to the question "why they don't ask Shenron to become stronger?" [[spoiler: (they actually do, since they ask to gain the Saiyan zenkai ability -which they call simply "recovering power"- which is the most they can do while remaining human)]]; to "why Cell, Frieza and Cold had their bodies in the afterlife?" and more.
* DarkAndTroubledPast: Why Yamcha was living as a bandit all alone? Why he did know about Son Gohan? How he learned his signature move? Who was still strong enough to scar his face after he trained under Karin? All of this and more is replied by this trope.
* {{Determinator}}: What Yamcha tries to be after the Cell's saga. [[spoiler:Goku is also this when he fights Heiwa, and actually leaves Heiwa bloody and injured after their fight, but he ultimately loses.]]
* FaceYourFears: This is what Yamcha must do to complete his "quest".
* FailureHero: What he realizes to be between the Z warriors. At some point he clearly notes that, while he had his share of minor victories, when there was an [[JumpedAtTheCall important fight]], he always lost it. More and more badly.
* FanDisservice: Do you remember Olibu, the Earth hero resembling Hercules that Goku meets in the afterlife? Well, his sister sadly looks a '''lot''' like him. What makes it a big fan disservice is that we see her after we have seen the other -very good looking- heroines, so the comparison is jaw dropping.
* FanService: Some, since it inherits the tone of the original DB.
** In the afterlife, and specially on the planet where the dead heroines train
** Yunomi has some big ones, [[http://dbzelsewhere.thecomicseries.com/comics/366 as in this page]].
* GroinAttack: Yamcha when training with Goku in the afterlife. Apparently the tail is not the only weak point for saiyans, after all.
* MyFistForgivesYou: Goku does this to Yamcha as payback for Yamcha accidentally hitting him in the nuts with the Spirit Ball during their training.
* NinjaPirateZombieRobot: Kyonshi. He is the master of the Serpent style [[spoiler: -which, we learn, is one of the four main style with Turtle (masters: Roshi, Gohan and Ox), Crane (master: Shen) and Wolf (master: Maccha)-]], he is a vampire, and he is a sorcerer/warlock too. Anyway, if we remember that Roshi had a very large set of strange skills -including hypnosis- and was himself brother of a witch, it makes sense in the context.
%%* NobleDemon: Up to this point, Heiwa, apparently.
* NotAfraidOfYouAnymore: Yamcha against Kyonshi, the master of the Serpent style and the BigBad of his young years.
* PecFlex: King Cold challenges Olibu to a showdown, offering to surrender if he wins but enabling the villains trapped in Hell to go free if Cold wins. Everybody thinks that this will be a straight fight, but it's actually a ritual "combat" of both participants doing the best muscle man poses they can. All the other heroes and villains just watch in awkward silence except for Frieza, who's mortified when King Cold loses.
* SuddenlyShouting: North Kai does this when he learns that a bureaucratic foul-up led to [[spoiler:Dr. Gero]] keeping his android enhancements in the afterlife.
* TookALevelInBadass: When compared to his old friends and fellows, who probably have become stronger, but are still on the human side of the spectrum, Yamcha with his superhuman skills, decisely appears as to have taken one level in badass. Or two levels. Or three. So many levels that he one shots [[spoiler: Kyonshi, who is the same tier as the likes of master Roshi and Shen]], and his old friend Barrack compares Yamcha to a demi-god.
* TrainingFromHell: Yamcha tries to undergone one of this, using a gravity chamber up to 400G (and ending up in hospital, the first time) and entering the Room of Spirit and Time. According to him he has become probably stronger than Krilin (mostly, because he guesses Krilin has stopped training since he married C18) and maybe even stronger than Ten-Shi-Nan. He anyway realizes that, no matter the training, the human body has limits (the aforementioned 400G) that the Saiyan can easily surpass.
* WeakButSkilled: With no human transformation, Yamcha focused on learning Kaioken then mastering it with his gravity training. In a fight with Goku, Yamcha showed his Kaioken Kamehameha x40, forcing Goku to go Super Saiyan (a 50x multiplier) to withstand the attack. Even then, Yamcha outright says he can't beat a Super Saiyan. He also loses a sparring match against Piccolo when they train together.
* TheWorfEffect: The BigBad of the manga does this to [[spoiler:Goku]] as a means of illustrating just how powerful he is.
* WorldOfActionGirls: A literal one, in the afterlife. Heroines train on a separated planet, because, when they trained together with males, neither males nor females were training at their best and both were easily distracted.
* WorthyOpponent: [[spoiler: Goku, according to Heiwa. Yamcha, instead? Not so much.]]
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'''Dragon Ball Z Elsewhere''' is an ongoing fan comic written and drawn by RMK, started in 2003, following the life of Yamcha. It tries to explain his past, how he learned his starting fighting skills, why he did know about Son Gohan and Master Roshi, and his feelings about being the weakest between the Z warriors.
It starts following Yamcha's life from the victory against Cell, and then moving onward, explaining his past mostly through flashbacks.
While the overall tone of the comic is full of jokes, closer to the original DB than to DBZ, there are darker moments, and realistic considerations (for example about the trauma of being stabbed to almost death by the arm of an android).
It can be found [[http://dbzelsewhere.thecomicseries.com/ here]].
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!!Tropes
* AllWomenAreLustful: On the planet in the afterlife where heroines train. And there is a reason: they have still their bodies, with all their urges, but they cannot meet any male, but every few centuries or so. So, when they see the two young Goku and Yamcha, well in shape, with their bodies, on their planet...
--> '''Random Heroine''': ''Gorgeous men! Gorgeous men! Everyone, shave your legs!''
* AmazinglyEmbarrassingParents: Frieza is embarrassed when King Cold challenges Olibu to a PecFlex competition, and doubly so when King Cold loses.
* AmIJustAToyToYou: [[spoiler: Lord Maccha's wife realizes she is really just a tool for her lover Kyonshi. With whom she shares a three year old daughter, nonetheless.]]
* BlatantLies: Again, on the planet in the afterlife where heroines train. They are all scandalized by the coming of two living and gorgeous men, the fact that they happen to be scantly dressed is just because those are their training uniforms and don't you dare to say otherwise!
* CannibalismSuperpower: Kyonshi can't naturally change his body anymore as a vampire. While this gives him the benefit of never losing the good shape he reached at the peak of his life - a very good shape, since he is a master on the same tier of Roshi and Shen - this means he can't improve with training. But there are other means for vampires/sorcerers to make their body stronger...
* CantCatchUp: One of the inner demons of Yamcha is this, toward Goku. It is expressed beautifully in some bottom panels during sparring between the two in the afterlife. [[spoiler: Eventually, he manages to "catch up", to some extent, since he forces Goku to transform in Super Saiyan to surpass him. That is as much as he could hope for.]]
* CatapultNightmare: Yamcha has one, when he dreams of the time C20 almost killed him, and wakes up jumping, sweating and with the hands on his chest.
* CelestialBureaucracy: The Other World bureaucracy is...less than efficient. The BigBad is released due to a bureaucratic screw-up, while another screw-up allows [[spoiler:Dr. Gero]] to keep the enhancements he had when he was alive. North Kai is particularly incensed about the latter one.
* ComicallyMissingThePoint: On the aforementioned planet in the afterlife where dead heroines train, without seeing a male for century, and therefore horny as hell, Gorga, their leader, declares that Goku and Yamcha might stay only if they beat the ladies in a fight. Apparently the ladies were only trying to find an excuse to wrestle with a hot male, but they fight Goku and Goku, being Goku, remains completely oblivious and instead points out that if ''they all aim for the groin'', they become too predictable and easy to defeat.
* ConfidenceSabotage: What C20 does to Yamcha. It is debatable if it was willing sabotage or a matter-of-fact remark. The initial effect on Yamcha is the same, though.
--> '''C20:''' ''This is your nature. You excel and you still lose. Nothing is different.''
* ContinuityNod: Plenty. From explaining why Yamcha knew about Roshi and Son Gohan; to reply to the question "why they don't ask Shenron to become stronger?" [[spoiler: (they actually do, since they ask to gain the Saiyan zenkai ability -which they call simply "recovering power"- which is the most they can do while remaining human)]]; to "why Cell, Frieza and Cold had their bodies in the afterlife?" and more.
* DarkAndTroubledPast: Why Yamcha was living as a bandit all alone? Why he did know about Son Gohan? How he learned his signature move? Who was still strong enough to scar his face after he trained under Karin? All of this and more is replied by this trope.
* {{Determinator}}: What Yamcha tries to be after the Cell's saga. [[spoiler:Goku is also this when he fights Heiwa, and actually leaves Heiwa bloody and injured after their fight, but he ultimately loses.]]
* FaceYourFears: This is what Yamcha must do to complete his "quest".
* FailureHero: What he realizes to be between the Z warriors. At some point he clearly notes that, while he had his share of minor victories, when there was an [[JumpedAtTheCall important fight]], he always lost it. More and more badly.
* FanDisservice: Do you remember Olibu, the Earth hero resembling Hercules that Goku meets in the afterlife? Well, his sister sadly looks a '''lot''' like him. What makes it a big fan disservice is that we see her after we have seen the other -very good looking- heroines, so the comparison is jaw dropping.
* FanService: Some, since it inherits the tone of the original DB.
** In the afterlife, and specially on the planet where the dead heroines train
** Yunomi has some big ones, [[http://dbzelsewhere.thecomicseries.com/comics/366 as in this page]].
* GroinAttack: Yamcha when training with Goku in the afterlife. Apparently the tail is not the only weak point for saiyans, after all.
* MyFistForgivesYou: Goku does this to Yamcha as payback for Yamcha accidentally hitting him in the nuts with the Spirit Ball during their training.
* NinjaPirateZombieRobot: Kyonshi. He is the master of the Serpent style [[spoiler: -which, we learn, is one of the four main style with Turtle (masters: Roshi, Gohan and Ox), Crane (master: Shen) and Wolf (master: Maccha)-]], he is a vampire, and he is a sorcerer/warlock too. Anyway, if we remember that Roshi had a very large set of strange skills -including hypnosis- and was himself brother of a witch, it makes sense in the context.
%%* NobleDemon: Up to this point, Heiwa, apparently.
* NotAfraidOfYouAnymore: Yamcha against Kyonshi, the master of the Serpent style and the BigBad of his young years.
* PecFlex: King Cold challenges Olibu to a showdown, offering to surrender if he wins but enabling the villains trapped in Hell to go free if Cold wins. Everybody thinks that this will be a straight fight, but it's actually a ritual "combat" of both participants doing the best muscle man poses they can. All the other heroes and villains just watch in awkward silence except for Frieza, who's mortified when King Cold loses.
* SuddenlyShouting: North Kai does this when he learns that a bureaucratic foul-up led to [[spoiler:Dr. Gero]] keeping his android enhancements in the afterlife.
* TookALevelInBadass: When compared to his old friends and fellows, who probably have become stronger, but are still on the human side of the spectrum, Yamcha with his superhuman skills, decisely appears as to have taken one level in badass. Or two levels. Or three. So many levels that he one shots [[spoiler: Kyonshi, who is the same tier as the likes of master Roshi and Shen]], and his old friend Barrack compares Yamcha to a demi-god.
* TrainingFromHell: Yamcha tries to undergone one of this, using a gravity chamber up to 400G (and ending up in hospital, the first time) and entering the Room of Spirit and Time. According to him he has become probably stronger than Krilin (mostly, because he guesses Krilin has stopped training since he married C18) and maybe even stronger than Ten-Shi-Nan. He anyway realizes that, no matter the training, the human body has limits (the aforementioned 400G) that the Saiyan can easily surpass.
* WeakButSkilled: With no human transformation, Yamcha focused on learning Kaioken then mastering it with his gravity training. In a fight with Goku, Yamcha showed his Kaioken Kamehameha x40, forcing Goku to go Super Saiyan (a 50x multiplier) to withstand the attack. Even then, Yamcha outright says he can't beat a Super Saiyan. He also loses a sparring match against Piccolo when they train together.
* TheWorfEffect: The BigBad of the manga does this to [[spoiler:Goku]] as a means of illustrating just how powerful he is.
* WorldOfActionGirls: A literal one, in the afterlife. Heroines train on a separated planet, because, when they trained together with males, neither males nor females were training at their best and both were easily distracted.
* WorthyOpponent: [[spoiler: Goku, according to Heiwa. Yamcha, instead? Not so much.]]
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* ComicallyMissingThePoint: on the aforementioned planet in the afterlife where dead heroines train, without seeing a male for century, and therefore horny as hell, Gorga, their leader, declares that Goku and Yamcha might stay only if they beat the ladies in a fight. Apparently the ladies were only trying to find an excuse to wrestle with a hot male, but they fight Goku and Goku, being Goku, remains completely oblivious and instead points out that if ''they all aim for the groin'', they become too predictable and easy to defeat.
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* ComicallyMissingThePoint: on On the aforementioned planet in the afterlife where dead heroines train, without seeing a male for century, and therefore horny as hell, Gorga, their leader, declares that Goku and Yamcha might stay only if they beat the ladies in a fight. Apparently the ladies were only trying to find an excuse to wrestle with a hot male, but they fight Goku and Goku, being Goku, remains completely oblivious and instead points out that if ''they all aim for the groin'', they become too predictable and easy to defeat.
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* FanDisservice: Do you rember Olibu, the Earth hero resembling Hercules that Goku meets in the afterlife? Well, his sister sadly looks a '''lot''' like him. What makes it a big fan disservice is that we see her after we have seen the other -very good looking- heroines, so the comparison is jaw dropping.
* FanService: some, since it inherits the tone of the original DB.
* FanService: some, since it inherits the tone of the original DB.
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* FanDisservice: Do you rember remember Olibu, the Earth hero resembling Hercules that Goku meets in the afterlife? Well, his sister sadly looks a '''lot''' like him. What makes it a big fan disservice is that we see her after we have seen the other -very good looking- heroines, so the comparison is jaw dropping.
* FanService:some, Some, since it inherits the tone of the original DB.
* FanService:
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* TrainingFromHell: Yamcha tries to undergone one of this, using a gravity chamber up to 400G (and ending up in hospital, the first time) and entering the Room of Spirit and Time. According to him he has become probably stronger than Krilin (mostly, because he guesses Krilin has stopped to train since he married C18) and maybe even stronger than Ten-Shi-Nan. He anyway realizes that, no matter the training, the human body has limits (the aforementioned 400G) that the Saiyan can easily surpass.
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* TrainingFromHell: Yamcha tries to undergone one of this, using a gravity chamber up to 400G (and ending up in hospital, the first time) and entering the Room of Spirit and Time. According to him he has become probably stronger than Krilin (mostly, because he guesses Krilin has stopped to train training since he married C18) and maybe even stronger than Ten-Shi-Nan. He anyway realizes that, no matter the training, the human body has limits (the aforementioned 400G) that the Saiyan can easily surpass.
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* CannibalismSuperpower: Kyonshi, being a vampire, can't change his body anymore, and while this gives him the benefit of never losing the good shape he reached at the peak of his life -a very good shape, since he is a master on the same tier of Roshi and Shen- this means he can't become any stronger with training. But there are other means for vampires/sorcerers to make their body stronger...
* CantCatchUp: One of the inner demons of Yamcha is this, toward Goku. It is expressed beautifully in some bottom panels during a sparring between the two in the afterlife. [[spoiler: Eventually, he manages to "catch up", to some extent, since he forces Goku to transform in Super Saiyan to surpass him. That is as much as he could hope for.]]
* CantCatchUp: One of the inner demons of Yamcha is this, toward Goku. It is expressed beautifully in some bottom panels during a sparring between the two in the afterlife. [[spoiler: Eventually, he manages to "catch up", to some extent, since he forces Goku to transform in Super Saiyan to surpass him. That is as much as he could hope for.]]
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* CannibalismSuperpower: Kyonshi, being a vampire, Kyonshi can't naturally change his body anymore, and while anymore as a vampire. While this gives him the benefit of never losing the good shape he reached at the peak of his life -a - a very good shape, since he is a master on the same tier of Roshi and Shen- Shen - this means he can't become any stronger improve with training. But there are other means for vampires/sorcerers to make their body stronger...
* CantCatchUp: One of the inner demons of Yamcha is this, toward Goku. It is expressed beautifully in some bottom panels duringa sparring between the two in the afterlife. [[spoiler: Eventually, he manages to "catch up", to some extent, since he forces Goku to transform in Super Saiyan to surpass him. That is as much as he could hope for.]]]]
* CantCatchUp: One of the inner demons of Yamcha is this, toward Goku. It is expressed beautifully in some bottom panels during
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* ConfidenceSabotage: What C20 does to Yamcha. It is debatable if it was a willing sabotage or a matter of fact remark. The initial effect on Yamcha is the same, though.
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* ConfidenceSabotage: What C20 does to Yamcha. It is debatable if it was a willing sabotage or a matter of fact matter-of-fact remark. The initial effect on Yamcha is the same, though.
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* ContinuityNod: Plenty. From explaining why Yamcha knew about Roshi and Son Gohan; to reply to the question "why they don't ask Shenron to become stronger?" [[spoiler: (they actually do, since they ask to gain the saiyan zenkai ability -which they call simply "recovering power"- which is the most they can do while remaining human)]]; to "why Cell, Frieza and Cold had their bodies in the afterlife?" and more.
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* ContinuityNod: Plenty. From explaining why Yamcha knew about Roshi and Son Gohan; to reply to the question "why they don't ask Shenron to become stronger?" [[spoiler: (they actually do, since they ask to gain the saiyan Saiyan zenkai ability -which they call simply "recovering power"- which is the most they can do while remaining human)]]; to "why Cell, Frieza and Cold had their bodies in the afterlife?" and more.
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Changed the start date. It started in 2003, it was uploaded to the author's new site in 2014.
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'''Dragon Ball Z Elsewhere''' is an ongoing fan comic written and drawn by RMK, started in 2014, following the life of Yamcha. It tries to explain his past, how he learned his starting fighting skills, why he did know about Son Gohan and Master Roshi, and his feelings about being the weakest between the Z warriors.
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'''Dragon Ball Z Elsewhere''' is an ongoing fan comic written and drawn by RMK, started in 2014, 2003, following the life of Yamcha. It tries to explain his past, how he learned his starting fighting skills, why he did know about Son Gohan and Master Roshi, and his feelings about being the weakest between the Z warriors.
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* WeakButSkilled: With no human transformation, Yamcha focused on learning Kaioken then mastering it with his gravity training. In a fight with Goku, Yamcha showed his Kaioken Kamehameha x40, forcing Goku to go Super Saiyan (a 50x multiplier) to withstand the attack.
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* WeakButSkilled: With no human transformation, Yamcha focused on learning Kaioken then mastering it with his gravity training. In a fight with Goku, Yamcha showed his Kaioken Kamehameha x40, forcing Goku to go Super Saiyan (a 50x multiplier) to withstand the attack. Even then, Yamcha outright says he can't beat a Super Saiyan. He also loses a sparring match against Piccolo when they train together.
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* AmazinglyEmbarrassingParents: Frieza is embarrassed when King Cold challenges Olibu to a PecFlex competition, and doubly so when King Cold loses.
* CelestialBureaucracy: The Other World bureaucracy is...less than efficient. The BigBad is released due to a bureaucratic screw-up, while another screw-up allows [[spoiler:Dr. Gero]] to keep the enhancements he had when he was alive. North Kai is particularly incensed about the latter one.
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* {{Determinator}}: What Yamcha tries to be after the Cell's saga.
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* {{Determinator}}: What Yamcha tries to be after the Cell's saga. [[spoiler:Goku is also this when he fights Heiwa, and actually leaves Heiwa bloody and injured after their fight, but he ultimately loses.]]
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* MyFistForgivesYou: Goku does this to Yamcha as payback for Yamcha accidentally hitting him in the nuts with the Spirit Ball during their training.
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* PecFlex: King Cold challenges Olibu to a showdown, offering to surrender if he wins but enabling the villains trapped in Hell to go free if Cold wins. Everybody thinks that this will be a straight fight, but it's actually a ritual "combat" of both participants doing the best muscle man poses they can. All the other heroes and villains just watch in awkward silence except for Frieza, who's mortified when King Cold loses.
* SuddenlyShouting: North Kai does this when he learns that a bureaucratic foul-up led to [[spoiler:Dr. Gero]] keeping his android enhancements in the afterlife.
* SuddenlyShouting: North Kai does this when he learns that a bureaucratic foul-up led to [[spoiler:Dr. Gero]] keeping his android enhancements in the afterlife.
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* TheWorfEffect: The BigBad of the manga does this to [[spoiler:Goku]] as a means of illustrating just how powerful he is.
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* WeakButSkilled: With no human transformation, Yamcha focused on learning Kaioken then mastering it with his gravity training. In a fight with Goku, Yamcha showed his Kaioken Kamehameha x40, forcing Goku to go Super Saiyan (a 50x multiplier) to withstand the attack.
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Zero context example.You must explain the trope to someone who is unfamiliar with the context.
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* NobleDemon: Up to this point, Heiwa, apparently.
* NotAfraidOfYouAnymore: Against Kyonshi, the master of the Serpent style and the BigBad of his young years.
* NotAfraidOfYouAnymore: Against Kyonshi, the master of the Serpent style and the BigBad of his young years.
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* NotAfraidOfYouAnymore:
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* WorthyOpponent: Goku, according to Heiwa. Yamcha, instead? Not so much.
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* WorthyOpponent: [[spoiler: Goku, according to Heiwa. Yamcha, instead? Not so much.]]
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* NobleDemon: Up to this point, Heiwa, apparently.
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* WorldOfActionGirls: A literal one, in the afterlife. Heroines train on a separated planet, because, when they trained together with males, neither males nor females were training at their best and both were easily distracted.
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* WorldOfActionGirls: A literal one, in the afterlife. Heroines train on a separated planet, because, when they trained together with males, neither males nor females were training at their best and both were easily distracted.distracted.
* WorthyOpponent: Goku, according to Heiwa. Yamcha, instead? Not so much.
* WorthyOpponent: Goku, according to Heiwa. Yamcha, instead? Not so much.
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* AffablyEvil: Kyonshi, to some extent.
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* ChildhoodFriendRomance: Yamcha and Yunomi.
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* WorldOfActionGirls: A literal one, in the afterlife. Heroines train on a separated planet, because, when they trained together with males, neither males nor females were training at their best and both were easily distracted.
* YourCheatingHeart: [[spoiler: Lord Maccha's wife. Big time.]]
* YourCheatingHeart: [[spoiler: Lord Maccha's wife. Big time.]]
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* WorldOfActionGirls: A literal one, in the afterlife. Heroines train on a separated planet, because, when they trained together with males, neither males nor females were training at their best and both were easily distracted.
* YourCheatingHeart: [[spoiler: Lord Maccha's wife. Big time.]]distracted.
* YourCheatingHeart: [[spoiler: Lord Maccha's wife. Big time.]]
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* AffablyEvil: Kyonshi, to some extent.
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* ComicallyMissingThePoint: on the aforementioned planet in the afterlife where dead heroines train, without seeing a male for century, and therefore horny as hell, Gorga, their leader, declares that Goku and Yamcha might stay only if they beat the ladies in a fight. Apparently the ladies were only trying to find an excuse to wrestle with a hot male, but they fight Goku and Goku, being Goku, remains completely oblivious and instead points out that if ''they all aim for the groin'', they become too predictable and easy to defeat.
* ConfidenceSabotage: What C20 does to Yamcha. It is debatable if it was a willing sabotage or a matter of fact remark. The initial effect on Yamcha is the same, though.
--> '''C20:''' ''This is your nature. You excel and you still lose. Nothing is different.''
* ConfidenceSabotage: What C20 does to Yamcha. It is debatable if it was a willing sabotage or a matter of fact remark. The initial effect on Yamcha is the same, though.
--> '''C20:''' ''This is your nature. You excel and you still lose. Nothing is different.''
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* FanDisservice: Do you rember Olibu, the Earth hero resembling Hercules that Goku meets in the afterlife? Well, his sister sadly looks a '''lot''' like him. What makes it a big fan disservice is that we see her after we have seen the other -very good looking- heroines, so the comparison is jaw dropping.
* FanService: some, since it inherits the tone of the original DB.
** In the afterlife, and specially on the planet where the dead heroines train
** Yunomi has some big ones, [[http://dbzelsewhere.thecomicseries.com/comics/366 as in this page]].
* FanService: some, since it inherits the tone of the original DB.
** In the afterlife, and specially on the planet where the dead heroines train
** Yunomi has some big ones, [[http://dbzelsewhere.thecomicseries.com/comics/366 as in this page]].
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* ContinuityNod: Plenty. From explaining why Yamcha knew about Roshi and Son Gohan; to reply to the question "why they don't ask Shenron to become stronger?" [[spoiler: (they actually do, since they ask to gain the saiyan zenkai ability -which they call simply "recovering power"- which is the most they can do while remaining human)]]; to "why Cell, Frieza and Cold had their bodies in the afterlife?" and more.
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* CantCatchUp: One of the inner demons of Yamcha is this, toward Goku. It is expressed beautifully in some bottom panels during a sparring between the two in the afterlife.
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* CantCatchUp: One of the inner demons of Yamcha is this, toward Goku. It is expressed beautifully in some bottom panels during a sparring between the two in the afterlife. [[spoiler: Eventually, he manages to "catch up", to some extent, since he forces Goku to transform in Super Saiyan to surpass him. That is as much as he could hope for.]]
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* FaceYourFears: This is what Yamcha must do to complete his "quest".
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* CannibalismSuperpower: Kyonshi, being a vampire, can't change his body anymore, and while this gives him the benefit of never losing the good shape he reached at the peak of his life -a very good shape, since he is a master on the same tier of Roshi and Shen- this means he can't become any stronger with training. But there are other means for vampires/sorcerers to make their body stronger...
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* CatapultNightmare: Yamcha has one, when he dreams of the time C20 almost killed him, and wakes up jumping, sweating and with the hands on his chest.
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* CantCatchUp: One of the inner demons of Yamcha is this, toward Goku. It is expressed beautifully in some bottom panels during a sparring between the two in the afterlife.
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'''Dragon Ball Z Elsewhere''' is an ongoing fan fiction webcomic, started in 2014, following the life of Yamcha. It tries to explain his past, how he learned his starting fighting skills, why he did know about Son Gohan and Master Roshi, and his feelings about being the weakest between the Z warriors.
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'''Dragon Ball Z Elsewhere''' is an ongoing fan fiction webcomic, comic written and drawn by RMK, started in 2014, following the life of Yamcha. It tries to explain his past, how he learned his starting fighting skills, why he did know about Son Gohan and Master Roshi, and his feelings about being the weakest between the Z warriors.
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* AllWomenAreLustful: On the planet in the afterlife where heroines train. And there is a reason: they have still their bodies, with all their urges, but they cannot meet any male, but every few centuries or so. So, when they see the two young Goku and Yamcha, well in shape, with their bodies, on their planet...
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* BlatantLies: Again, on the planet in the afterlife where heroines train. They are all scandalized by the coming of two living and gorgeous men, the fact that they happen to be scantly dressed is just because those are their training uniforms and don't you dare to say otherwise!
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* WorldOfActionGirls: A literal one, in the afterlife. Heroines train on a separated planet, because, when they trained together with males, neither males nor females were training at their best and both were easily distracted.
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* NinjaPirateZombieRobot: Kyonshi. He is the master of the Serpent style [[spoiler: -which, we learn, is one of the four main style with Turtle (masters: Roshi, Gohan and Ox), Crane (master: Shen) and Wolf (master: Maccha)-]], he is a vampire, and, according to Yamcha, he has some magic powers, so probably he is kinda of a sorcerer too. Anyway, if we remember that Roshi had a very large set of strange skills -including hypnosis- and was himself brother of a witch, it makes sense in the context.
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* GroinAttack: Yamcha when training with Goku in the afterlife. Apparently the tail is not the only weak point for saiyans, after all.
* NinjaPirateZombieRobot: Kyonshi. He is the master of the Serpent style [[spoiler: -which, we learn, is one of the four main style with Turtle (masters: Roshi, Gohan and Ox), Crane (master: Shen) and Wolf (master: Maccha)-]], he is a vampire,and, according to Yamcha, he has some magic powers, so probably and he is kinda of a sorcerer sorcerer/warlock too. Anyway, if we remember that Roshi had a very large set of strange skills -including hypnosis- and was himself brother of a witch, it makes sense in the context.
* NinjaPirateZombieRobot: Kyonshi. He is the master of the Serpent style [[spoiler: -which, we learn, is one of the four main style with Turtle (masters: Roshi, Gohan and Ox), Crane (master: Shen) and Wolf (master: Maccha)-]], he is a vampire,
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'''Dragon Ball Z Elsewhere''' is an ongoing work, started in 2014, following the life of Yamcha. It tries to explain his past, how he learned his starting fighting skills, why he did know about Son Gohan and Master Roshi, and his feelings about being the weakest between the Z warriors.
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'''Dragon Ball Z Elsewhere''' is an ongoing work, fan fiction webcomic, started in 2014, following the life of Yamcha. It tries to explain his past, how he learned his starting fighting skills, why he did know about Son Gohan and Master Roshi, and his feelings about being the weakest between the Z warriors.
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* TookALevelInBadass: When compared to his old friends and fellows, who probably have become stronger, but are still on the human side of the spectrum, Yamcha with his superhuman skills, decisely appears as to have taken one level in badass. Or two levels. Or three. So many levels that he one shots [[spoiler: Kyonshi, who is the same tier as the likes of master Roshi and Shen]], and his old friend Barrack compares Yamcha to a demi-god.
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* DarkAndTroubledPast: Why Yamcha was living as a bandit all alone? Why he did know about Son Gohan? How he learned his signature move? Who was still strong enough to scar his face after he trained under Karin? All of this and more is replied by this trope.
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* TrainingFromHell: Yamcha tries to undergone one of this, using a gravity chamber up to 400G (and ending up in hospital, the first time) and entering the Room of Spirit and Time. According to him he has become probably stronger than Krilin (mostly, because he guesses Krilin has stopped to train since he married C18) and maybe even stronger than Ten-Shi-Nan. He anyway realizes that, no matter the training, the human body has limits (the aforementioned 400G) that the Saiyan can easily surpass.
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* TrainingFromHell: Yamcha tries to undergone one of this, using a gravity chamber up to 400G (and ending up in hospital, the first time) and entering the Room of Spirit and Time. According to him he has become probably stronger than Krilin (mostly, because he guesses Krilin has stopped to train since he married C18) and maybe even stronger than Ten-Shi-Nan. He anyway realizes that, no matter the training, the human body has limits (the aforementioned 400G) that the Saiyan can easily surpass.surpass.
* YourCheatingHeart: [[spoiler: Lord Maccha's wife. Big time.]]
* YourCheatingHeart: [[spoiler: Lord Maccha's wife. Big time.]]
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* ChildhoodFriendRomance: Yamcha and Yunomi.
* {{Determinator}}: What Yamcha tries to be after the Cell's saga.
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* NinjaPirateZombieRobot: Kyonshi. He is the master of the Serpent style [[spoiler: -which, we learn, is one of the four main style with Turtle (masters: Roshi, Gohan and Ox), Crane (master: Shen) and Wolf (master: Maccha)-]], he is a vampire, and, according to Yamcha, he has some magic powers, so probably he is kinda of a sorcerer too. Anyway, if we remember that Roshi had a very large set of strange skills -including hypnosis- and was himself brother of a witch, it makes sense in the context.
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* Determinator: What Yamcha tries to be after the Cell's saga.
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* NotAfraidOfYouAnymore: Against Kyonshi, the master of the Serpent style and the BigBad of his young years.
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* NotAfraidOfYouAnymore: Against Kyonshi, the master of the Serpent style and the BigBad of his young years.years.
* TrainingFromHell: Yamcha tries to undergone one of this, using a gravity chamber up to 400G (and ending up in hospital, the first time) and entering the Room of Spirit and Time. According to him he has become probably stronger than Krilin (mostly, because he guesses Krilin has stopped to train since he married C18) and maybe even stronger than Ten-Shi-Nan. He anyway realizes that, no matter the training, the human body has limits (the aforementioned 400G) that the Saiyan can easily surpass.
* TrainingFromHell: Yamcha tries to undergone one of this, using a gravity chamber up to 400G (and ending up in hospital, the first time) and entering the Room of Spirit and Time. According to him he has become probably stronger than Krilin (mostly, because he guesses Krilin has stopped to train since he married C18) and maybe even stronger than Ten-Shi-Nan. He anyway realizes that, no matter the training, the human body has limits (the aforementioned 400G) that the Saiyan can easily surpass.
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'''Dragon Ball Z Elsewhere''' is an ongoing work, started in 2014, following the life of Yamcha. It tries to explain his past, how he learned his starting fighting skills, why he did know about Son Gohan and Master Roshi, and his feelings about being the weakest between the Z warriors.
It starts following Yamcha's life from the victory against Cell, and then moving onward, explaining his past mostly through flashbacks.
It can be found [[http://dbzelsewhere.thecomicseries.com/ here]].
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* FailureHero: What he realizes to be between the Z warriors. At some point he clearly notes that, while he had his share of minor victories, when there was an [[JumpedAtTheCall important fight]], he always lost it. More and more badly.
* NotAfraidOfYouAnymore: Against Kyonshi, the master of the Serpent style and the BigBad of his young years.
It starts following Yamcha's life from the victory against Cell, and then moving onward, explaining his past mostly through flashbacks.
It can be found [[http://dbzelsewhere.thecomicseries.com/ here]].
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* FailureHero: What he realizes to be between the Z warriors. At some point he clearly notes that, while he had his share of minor victories, when there was an [[JumpedAtTheCall important fight]], he always lost it. More and more badly.
* NotAfraidOfYouAnymore: Against Kyonshi, the master of the Serpent style and the BigBad of his young years.
