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* Music/TaylorSwift fans vs. Music/{{Adele}} fans — watch as Swifties cite Adele's music as being one-tone and Adele's fans accuse Swift's lyrics of being immature.
** Recently, a rivalry has also developed between Taylor fans and Music/KaceyMusgraves fans. This isn't getting any better when Kacey has stated numerous times that she dislikes how Taylor's success influenced country radio.

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fans vs. Music/{{Adele}} fans — watch as Swifties cite Adele's music as being one-tone and Adele's fans accuse Swift's lyrics of being immature.
** Recently, a A rivalry has also developed between Taylor fans and Music/KaceyMusgraves fans. This isn't getting any better when Kacey has stated numerous times that she dislikes how Taylor's success influenced country radio.



** Taylor's fans do ''not'' get along with Music/KanyeWest fans, for obvious reasons. You would have thought this rivalry would have ended in 2015 when they made up, but it is still going on thanks to West's unhealthy, continuing obsession with Swift, especially with the song "Famous" (and the music video), which upset her fans. The rivalry became even more heated following Taylor's criticism of that same song, leading Kim Kardashian to leak a phone conversation Kanye has had with Taylor where she acutally said she didn't mind of the lyrics targeting her. And then we arrive to the present day, with Kanye fans accusing Taylor of purposely releasing her new album, ''Reputation'', on the anniversary of Kanye's mom's death.

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** Taylor's fans do ''not'' get along with Music/KanyeWest fans, for obvious reasons. You would have thought this rivalry would have ended in 2015 when they made up, but it is still going on thanks fans due to West's unhealthy, continuing obsession with Swift, especially with the song "Famous" (and the music video), which upset her fans. The rivalry became even more heated following Kanye having infamously interrupted Taylor's criticism of MTV Video Music Awards acceptance speech to say Music/{{Beyonce}} should have won instead. It doesn't help that same song, leading Kim Kardashian to leak a phone conversation Kanye has had with Taylor where she acutally said she didn't mind of the lyrics targeting her. And then we arrive drama between them persisted after they appeared to the present day, with Kanye fans accusing Taylor of purposely releasing her new album, ''Reputation'', on the anniversary of Kanye's mom's death.have made up in 2015.



** Given that {{Music/BTS}} is one of the only k-pop acts to reach international megastardom, there is a “BTS vs. pretty much everyone else” fandom rivalry going on. A notable fan war is with fans of the girl group Music/BlackPink. When Blackpink started to blow up internationally, some circles hyped them up as the DistaffCounterpart to BTS, which other circles did not appreciate. It doesn’t help that, despite being the most popular GirlGroup in K-pop, Blackpink is perpetually in second place (behind BTS) when it comes to popularity in the industry as a whole.
** Fans of Music/BlackPink, the most popular girl group internationally, vs. fans of {{Music/Twice}}, the second most popular. It boils down to the groups having near-polar opposite styles (Blackpink being generally DarkerAndEdgier; Twice being generally LighterAndSofter) and Twice being one of the only girl groups who can stand a chance competing with Blackpink to become the most popular due to Twice having been dubbed the Nation’s Girl Group relatively early in their career.
** In general, any new group that gets compared to an established A-list group or debuts around the same time that another group from the same company starts to fall apart (Music/RedVelvet vs. {{Music/fx}}; Music/BlackPink vs. Music/TwoNEOne) will be subject to this.

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** Given that {{Music/BTS}} is one of the only k-pop acts to reach international megastardom, there is a “BTS "BTS vs. pretty much everyone else” else" fandom rivalry going on. A notable fan war is with fans of the girl group Music/BlackPink. When Blackpink started to blow up internationally, some circles hyped them up as the DistaffCounterpart to BTS, which other circles did not appreciate. It doesn’t doesn't help that, despite being the most popular GirlGroup in K-pop, Blackpink is perpetually in second place (behind BTS) when it comes to popularity in the industry as a whole.
** Fans of Music/BlackPink, the most popular girl group internationally, vs. fans of {{Music/Twice}}, the second most popular. It boils down to the groups having near-polar opposite styles (Blackpink being generally DarkerAndEdgier; Twice being generally LighterAndSofter) and Twice being one of the only girl groups who can stand a chance competing with Blackpink to become the most popular due to Twice having been dubbed the Nation’s Nation's Girl Group relatively early in their career.
** In general, any new group that gets compared to an established A-list group or debuts around the same time that another group from the same company starts to fall apart (Music/RedVelvet vs. {{Music/fx}}; Music/BlackPink vs. Music/TwoNEOne) will be subject to this. Same goes for any new group that gets a lot of unsolicited comparisons to an established group like Music/GirlsGeneration.
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* Music/{{Blur}} fans vs. Music/{{Oasis}} fans. It even caused marriages to break up. Or so the British tabloids would have us believe. Ironically enough, the main players in the rivalry between the two - Noel Gallagher and Damon Albarn - are now friends and neither wish to discuss their rivalry.

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* Music/{{Blur}} fans vs. Music/{{Oasis}} fans. It even caused marriages to break up. Or so the British tabloids would have us believe. Ironically enough, the main players in the rivalry between the two - Noel Gallagher and Damon Albarn - are now friends friends, with Gallagher collaborating with [[Music/{{Gorillaz}} Albarn's other big musical project]] a number of times, and neither wish both seem to discuss their rivalry.dislike talking about it.
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** Also within black metal, there is Satanic black metal vs Pagan black metal vsChristian n (un)black metal.

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** Also within black metal, there is Satanic black metal vs Pagan black metal vsChristian n vs. Christian (un)black metal.metal vs. Neo-Nazi black metal fans.
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** In UsefulNotes/{{Bulgaria}}, there is metalheads vs. 'chalga'[[note]] a local variant of pop-folk, known for romantic, but sometimes '''very''' vulgar snd sexual lyrics.[[/note]] fans. Chalga fans claim metalheads are primitives, while metalheads claim chalga fans are bunch of rapists.

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** In UsefulNotes/{{Bulgaria}}, there is metalheads vs. 'chalga'[[note]] a local variant of pop-folk, PopFolk, known for romantic, but sometimes '''very''' vulgar snd and sexual lyrics.[[/note]] fans. Chalga fans claim metalheads are primitives, while metalheads claim chalga fans are bunch of rapists.
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** In UsefulNotes/{{Bulgaria}}, there is metalheads vs. 'chalga'[[note]] a local variant of pop-folk, known for romantic, but sometimes '''very''' vulgar snd sexual lyrics.[[/notes]] fans. Chalga fans claim metalheads are primitives, while metalheads claim chalga fans are bunch of rapists.

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** In UsefulNotes/{{Bulgaria}}, there is metalheads vs. 'chalga'[[note]] a local variant of pop-folk, known for romantic, but sometimes '''very''' vulgar snd sexual lyrics.[[/notes]] [[/note]] fans. Chalga fans claim metalheads are primitives, while metalheads claim chalga fans are bunch of rapists.
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** In UsefulNotes/{{Bulgaria}}, there is metalheads vs. 'chalga'[[note]] a local variant of pop-f9lk, known for romantic, but sometimes '''very''' vulgar snd sexual lyrics.[[/notes]] fans. Chalga fans claim metalheads are primitives, while metalheads claim chalga fans are bunch of rapists.

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** In UsefulNotes/{{Bulgaria}}, there is metalheads vs. 'chalga'[[note]] a local variant of pop-f9lk, pop-folk, known for romantic, but sometimes '''very''' vulgar snd sexual lyrics.[[/notes]] fans. Chalga fans claim metalheads are primitives, while metalheads claim chalga fans are bunch of rapists.

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** In UsefulNotes/{{Bulgaria}}, there is metalheads vs. 'chalga'[[note]] a local variant of pop-f9lk, known for romantic, but sometimes '''very''' vulgar snd sexual lyrics.[[/notes]] fans. Chalga fans claim metalheads are primitives, while metalheads claim chalga fans are bunch of rapists.



** Also within black metal, there is Satanic black metal vs Pagan black metal vs Chrsyian (un)black metal.

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** Also within black metal, there is Satanic black metal vs Pagan black metal vs Chrsyian vsChristian n (un)black metal.
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** Given that {{Music/BTS}} is one of the only k-pop acts to reach international megastardom, there is a “BTS vs. pretty much everyone else” fandom rivalry going on. A notable fan war is with fans of the girl group Music/BlackPink. When Blackpink started to blow up internationally, some circles hyped them up as the DistaffCounterpart to BTS, which neither camp appreciated. It doesn’t help that, despite being the most popular GirlGroup in K-pop, Blackpink is perpetually in second place (behind BTS) when it comes to popularity in the industry as a whole.

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** Given that {{Music/BTS}} is one of the only k-pop acts to reach international megastardom, there is a “BTS vs. pretty much everyone else” fandom rivalry going on. A notable fan war is with fans of the girl group Music/BlackPink. When Blackpink started to blow up internationally, some circles hyped them up as the DistaffCounterpart to BTS, which neither camp appreciated.other circles did not appreciate. It doesn’t help that, despite being the most popular GirlGroup in K-pop, Blackpink is perpetually in second place (behind BTS) when it comes to popularity in the industry as a whole.
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** Given that {{Music/BTS}} is one of the only k-pop acts to reach international megastardom, there is a “BTS vs. pretty much everyone else” fandom rivalry going on. A notable fan war is with fans of the girl group Music/BlackPink. When Blackpink started to blow up internationally, the media hyped them up as the DistaffCounterpart to BTS, which neither camp appreciated. It doesn’t help that, despite being the most popular GirlGroup in K-pop, Blackpink is perpetually in second place (behind BTS) when it comes to popularity in the industry as a whole.

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** Given that {{Music/BTS}} is one of the only k-pop acts to reach international megastardom, there is a “BTS vs. pretty much everyone else” fandom rivalry going on. A notable fan war is with fans of the girl group Music/BlackPink. When Blackpink started to blow up internationally, the media some circles hyped them up as the DistaffCounterpart to BTS, which neither camp appreciated. It doesn’t help that, despite being the most popular GirlGroup in K-pop, Blackpink is perpetually in second place (behind BTS) when it comes to popularity in the industry as a whole.
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Cleaned up the imported drama, itself explicitly biased toward BTS, while fixing the section to make it more about k-pop in general. It seemed like it was intended to be about EXO, specifically, until what was probably natter made it trail off after “EXO vs BTS” was brought up.

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* An example in K-pop used to be [[{{Music/EXO}} EXO]] vs. BAP. To add fuel to the fire, both groups were candidates for the MAMA 2012 rookie award. Neither group won, which resulted in both fandoms having a rivalry with fans of the indie group Busker Busker, for a few months. The rivalry didn't really last because most of Busker Busker's fans are Korean, while the EXO and BAP fans who are at war are foreign.
** Nowadays it is [[{{Music/BTS}} BTS]] fandom that EXO fandom have a bad relationship with. After BTS started to rise in 2015, the fandoms began a rivalry because the two groups are compared. The fact that the two groups are always [[AwardSnub nominated for the same awards]] doesn't help. In fact, the first time BTS beat Exo for one of these awards, Exo’s fandom made a petition to the Korean government to take the award from BTS and give it to Exo, which received thousands of signatures. Unsurprisingly, the Blue House told them to stop wasting the government’s time with such ridiculous requests. The abuse got to the point where most K-pop fandoms joined up with Exo’s to harass BTS due to their unexpectedly growing popularity, peaking when a K-pop fan got a BTS concert cancelled due to threats of shooting the band during the concert. However, since 2017, with BTS’s meteoric rise to global popularity and the lack of any actual competition between the groups anymore- BTS has swept all their nominations at the previously contentious awards shows for years in a row- the rivalry has gradually begun to fade. Nowadays, it’s mostly one-sided, with K-Pop fans making constant jabs at BTS and putting all their other differences aside to continue to attempt to derail BTS’s career.

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* KoreanPopMusic is notorious for its ''[[SeriousBusiness extremely]]'' [[FlameWar heated]] fan wars. These are the most notable:
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An example in K-pop used to be [[{{Music/EXO}} EXO]] vs. BAP.{{Music/BAP}}. To add fuel to the fire, both groups were candidates for the MAMA 2012 rookie award. Neither group won, which resulted in both fandoms having a rivalry with fans of the indie group Busker Busker, for a few months. The rivalry didn't really last because most of Busker Busker's fans are Korean, while the EXO and BAP fans who are at war are foreign.
** Nowadays it is [[{{Music/BTS}} BTS]] fandom that EXO fandom have a bad relationship with. After BTS started to rise in 2015, the fandoms began a rivalry because the two groups are compared. The fact that the two groups are always [[AwardSnub nominated for the same awards]] doesn't help. In fact, the first time BTS beat Exo for help.
** Given that {{Music/BTS}} is
one of these awards, Exo’s the only k-pop acts to reach international megastardom, there is a “BTS vs. pretty much everyone else” fandom made a petition to rivalry going on. A notable fan war is with fans of the Korean government girl group Music/BlackPink. When Blackpink started to take blow up internationally, the award from BTS and give it media hyped them up as the DistaffCounterpart to Exo, BTS, which received thousands of signatures. Unsurprisingly, neither camp appreciated. It doesn’t help that, despite being the Blue House told them to stop wasting the government’s time with such ridiculous requests. The abuse got to the point where most K-pop fandoms joined up with Exo’s to harass BTS due to their unexpectedly growing popularity, peaking popular GirlGroup in K-pop, Blackpink is perpetually in second place (behind BTS) when a K-pop fan got a BTS concert cancelled due it comes to threats of shooting the band during the concert. However, since 2017, with BTS’s meteoric rise to global popularity and in the lack industry as a whole.
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of any actual competition between Music/BlackPink, the most popular girl group internationally, vs. fans of {{Music/Twice}}, the second most popular. It boils down to the groups anymore- BTS has swept all having near-polar opposite styles (Blackpink being generally DarkerAndEdgier; Twice being generally LighterAndSofter) and Twice being one of the only girl groups who can stand a chance competing with Blackpink to become the most popular due to Twice having been dubbed the Nation’s Girl Group relatively early in their nominations at career.
** In general, any new group that gets compared to an established A-list group or debuts around
the previously contentious awards shows for years in a row- same time that another group from the rivalry has gradually begun same company starts to fade. Nowadays, it’s mostly one-sided, with K-Pop fans making constant jabs at BTS and putting all their other differences aside fall apart (Music/RedVelvet vs. {{Music/fx}}; Music/BlackPink vs. Music/TwoNEOne) will be subject to continue to attempt to derail BTS’s career. this.
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** Metalheads vs. pop fans. The former claim pop is way too trendy, while pop fans claim metal is full of satanic bands.


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** Also within black metal, there is Satanic black metal vs Pagan black metal vs Chrsyian (un)black metal.
** First wave black metal fans vs. second wave black metal fans.
** Greek black metal fans vs. Norwegian black metal fans.


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** Music/{{Madonna}} fans vs. Music/MichaelJackson fans sometimes too.

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* Underground Ravers and Free Partie vs. Clubs and Festivals.

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** Drake and Kanye fans do not get along. some Drake fans are also antagonistic towards KendrickLamar and his fans.



* NBAYoungboy fans are agresive against Lil Durk fans, but also everyone else in general, and "youngboy better" comments have become a meme in an of itself.




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** a similar debate exsists between fans of DJ's that play and live mix with vinyls and those who use digital tracks, and those who play pre-mixed digital tracks.


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* [[DiscoSucks Rock Fans vs. Disco]] was a big deal towards the end of the 70's as rock fans saw several radio stations switch their programming over, and more and more live venues close down in favor of discotechques.
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** Crass had a rivalry with The Clash, both being heavily political minded bands, but Crass came froma very DIY Anarchist scene and saw The Clash as a commercial product. Meanwhile, in Northern Ireland, there was a split between The Undertones and Stiff Little Fingers with one point of disagreement being the use of TheTroubles as a topic in songs (SLF sang about it and the Undertones didn't), and the New York scene was split between CBGB's and Max's Kansas City regulars.
** common infights in the punk scene include DIY vs. record label acts, those disagreeing wherther Punk's politics should be [[GranolaGirl positive social change]] or [[StrawNihilist anti-social nihilism]], wherther punk spaces should be UsefulNotes/StraightEdge, Vegan, or even [[BreadEggsBreadedEggs Vegan Straight Edge]], as well as squabbles about feminism and anti-racism.
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* GangstaRap fans are divided on the importance of the artists street credibility. Does a rapper have to rap about things they have really seen and done, or is doing so provoking further violence and self snitching? A further complication comes from racial politics, as some find it very distatestful for white rap fans to treat gang violence like a spectator sport.

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** Eminem fans and Music/KanyeWest fans have had a longstanding rivalry due to them being two of the most popular rappers, with Kanye's fans hating Eminem fans for being unsophisticated and corny while Eminem fans hate Kanye fans for being pretentious and incapable of admitting their idol's faults. The political rupture that emerged between the two fanbases in the Trump years also caused problems, with Kanye alienating his liberal audience by supporting Trump and, later, making white supremacist and homophobic statements, while Eminem shed much of his largely rural-conservative audience by supporting Black Lives Matter, gun control and abortion access, and vowing to stop using homophobic slurs in his songs as well as supporting his child coming out as nonbinary. This resulted in a number of fans switching over to support the rapper who followed their political outlook and turning on the rapper who betrayed them.

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** Eminem fans and Music/KanyeWest fans have had a longstanding rivalry due to them being two of the most popular rappers, with Kanye's fans hating Eminem fans for being unsophisticated and corny while Eminem fans hate Kanye fans for being pretentious and incapable of admitting their idol's faults. The political rupture that emerged between the two fanbases in the Trump years also caused problems, with Kanye alienating his liberal audience by supporting Trump and, later, making white supremacist and homophobic statements, while Eminem shed much of his largely rural-conservative audience by supporting Black Lives Matter, gun control and abortion access, and vowing to stop using homophobic slurs in his songs as well as supporting one of his child children coming out as nonbinary. This resulted in a number of fans switching over to support the rapper who followed their political outlook and turning on the rapper who betrayed them.them.
** Eminem fans absolutely hate Music/MachineGunKelly fans as the result of the beef between the two. A few of them even vandalised MGK's tour bus with homophobic slurs.

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** Eminem fans and Music/KanyeWest fans have had a longstanding rivalry due to them being two of the most popular rappers, with Kanye's fans hating Eminem fans for being unsophisticated and corny while Eminem fans hate Kanye fans for being pretentious and incapable of admitting their idol's faults. The political rupture that emerged between the two fanbases in the Trump years also caused problems, with Kanye alienating his largely liberal audience by supporting Trump and, later, making white supremacist statements, while Eminem shed much of his largely white/rural audience by supporting Black Lives Matter and gun control and, later, making a vow to stop using homophobic slurs in his songs and supporting his trans child in their new identity. This resulted in a number of fans switching over to support the rapper who followed their political outlook and turning on the rapper who betrayed them.

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** Eminem fans and Music/KanyeWest fans have had a longstanding rivalry due to them being two of the most popular rappers, with Kanye's fans hating Eminem fans for being unsophisticated and corny while Eminem fans hate Kanye fans for being pretentious and incapable of admitting their idol's faults. The political rupture that emerged between the two fanbases in the Trump years also caused problems, with Kanye alienating his largely liberal audience by supporting Trump and, later, making white supremacist and homophobic statements, while Eminem shed much of his largely white/rural rural-conservative audience by supporting Black Lives Matter and Matter, gun control and, later, making a vow and abortion access, and vowing to stop using homophobic slurs in his songs and as well as supporting his trans child in their new identity.coming out as nonbinary. This resulted in a number of fans switching over to support the rapper who followed their political outlook and turning on the rapper who betrayed them.

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** For some reason, Eminem fans seem to like to hate Music/LilWayne (especially on the internet), even though Eminem and Lil Wayne have collaborated on multiple occasions and there's no indication of any bad blood whatsoever between the two.
** Music/AmyWinehouse fans despise Eminem. This is completely one sided on their part however. Eminem attacked Amy for her looks and mental health issues in multiple songs in 2009 when Amy was suffering from anorexia and bulimia both of which would contribute to her death. The fact that Eminem was a bigger star at the time, and that the media was attacking Amy caused many people, including even Eminem's own fans to see it as a nasty case of punching down (which is undoubtedly why there is no hatred from Eminem's fans towards Amy.)

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** For some reason, In the 2000s, Eminem fans seem to like to hate Music/LilWayne (especially on the internet), hated Music/LilWayne, even though Eminem and Lil Wayne have collaborated on multiple occasions occasions, both gush over the other's rapping ability, and there's no indication of any bad blood whatsoever between the two.
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** Music/AmyWinehouse fans despise Eminem. This is completely one sided on their part however. Eminem attacked Amy for her looks and mental health issues in multiple songs in 2009 when Amy was suffering from anorexia and bulimia both of which would contribute to her death. The fact that Eminem was a bigger star at the time, and that the media was attacking Amy caused many people, including even Eminem's own fans fans, to see it as a nasty case of punching down (which is undoubtedly why there is no hatred from down. Part of this was due to people misunderstanding Eminem's act -- he was, in fact, a huge fan of Amy and wrote to her about his love of her music and how much he related to her struggles with addiction and abusive relationships. He wanted her to sing the hook on "We Made You" -- the song making fun of her -- which she only turned down because she was so sick at the time she would have been unable.
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fans towards Amy.)loathe Eminem over their infamous DidTheyOrDidntThey scandal -- Eminem says they did, Mariah said they didn't -- and the resulting {{Diss Track}}s they wrote about each other.
** Eminem fans and Music/KanyeWest fans have had a longstanding rivalry due to them being two of the most popular rappers, with Kanye's fans hating Eminem fans for being unsophisticated and corny while Eminem fans hate Kanye fans for being pretentious and incapable of admitting their idol's faults. The political rupture that emerged between the two fanbases in the Trump years also caused problems, with Kanye alienating his largely liberal audience by supporting Trump and, later, making white supremacist statements, while Eminem shed much of his largely white/rural audience by supporting Black Lives Matter and gun control and, later, making a vow to stop using homophobic slurs in his songs and supporting his trans child in their new identity. This resulted in a number of fans switching over to support the rapper who followed their political outlook and turning on the rapper who betrayed them.
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** A particularly strange "rivalry"[[note]]which is admittedly far more common in internet circles than it is in RealLife[[/note]] is "Metalheads vs. Christians." Yes, some metalheads [[FanDumb believe there can be absolutely no overlap between metal fandom and Christian belief]], even though many metal musicians are themselves Christians (check the NotChristianRock page for details - and that's not counting the numerous musicians who are probably Christians in their personal lives but haven't yet declared their faith to the public).

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** A particularly strange "rivalry"[[note]]which is admittedly far more common in internet circles than it is in RealLife[[/note]] is "Metalheads vs. Christians." Yes, some metalheads [[FanDumb believe there can be absolutely no overlap between metal fandom and Christian belief]], even though many metal musicians are themselves Christians (check the NotChristianRock page for details - and that's not counting the numerous musicians who are probably Christians in their personal lives but haven't yet declared their faith to the public).Christians.
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* Music/SexPistols vs. Music/TheRamones. [[TakeAThirdOption or]] Music/TheDamned, Music/TheClash, Crass or Stiff Little Fingers

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* Music/SexPistols vs. Music/TheRamones. [[TakeAThirdOption or]] Music/TheDamned, Music/{{The Damned|Band}}, Music/TheClash, Crass or Stiff Little Fingers
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* Music/TheBeatles fans vs. Music/TheRollingStones fans. More rabid feuders are often surprised to find out that the two bands were actually close friends with one another and would occasionally drop in on the others' recording sessions. At least two tracks, the Beatles' "All You Need Is Love" and the Stones' "We Love You", featured members of the other group providing background vocals.

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* Music/TheBeatles fans vs. Music/TheRollingStones Music/{{The Rolling Stones|Band}} fans. More rabid feuders are often surprised to find out that the two bands were actually close friends with one another and would occasionally drop in on the others' recording sessions. At least two tracks, the Beatles' "All You Need Is Love" and the Stones' "We Love You", featured members of the other group providing background vocals.
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* The fandoms of Music/TheProtomen and Music/TheMegas seem to have a somewhat heated rivalry, despite the two bands getting along fairly well. Most likely due to the fact they share the same [[VideoGame/MegaMan base inspiration]], even if they go in [[DarkerAndEdgier two]] [[RockOpera wildly]] [[CoveredUp different]] [[VillainSong directions.]]

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* The fandoms of Music/TheProtomen and Music/TheMegas seem to have a somewhat heated rivalry, despite the two bands getting along fairly well. Most likely due to the fact they share the same [[VideoGame/MegaMan [[VideoGame/MegaManClassic base inspiration]], even if they go in [[DarkerAndEdgier two]] [[RockOpera wildly]] [[CoveredUp different]] [[VillainSong directions.]]
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** Oh and, please, '''''please''''' don't put {{Grindcore}} into the equation. Death metal fans say that grindcore is basically metalcore turned UpToEleven, although that isn't really the case; black metal fans instead say that grindcore is sometimes not too serious. Grindcore fans, in turn, say that death metal puts too much emphasis on straightforward overwhelmingness and black metal takes its [[RockMeAsmodeus satanism]] ''very'' seriously.

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** Oh and, please, '''''please''''' don't put {{Grindcore}} into the equation. Death metal fans say that grindcore is basically metalcore turned UpToEleven, up to eleven, although that isn't really the case; black metal fans instead say that grindcore is sometimes not too serious. Grindcore fans, in turn, say that death metal puts too much emphasis on straightforward overwhelmingness and black metal takes its [[RockMeAsmodeus satanism]] ''very'' seriously.
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** And [[BrokenBase within]] the dubstep fandom, [[LighterAndSofter chillstep]] (e.g. Cahb, Benga, Music/{{Burial}}) vs. [[DarkerAndEdgier brostep]] (e.g. Flux Pavilion, Music/{{Excision}}, Music/{{Nero}}).

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** And [[BrokenBase within]] the dubstep fandom, [[LighterAndSofter chillstep]] (e.g. Cahb, Benga, Music/{{Burial}}) vs. [[DarkerAndEdgier brostep]] (e.g. Flux Pavilion, Music/{{Excision}}, Music/{{Excision|Musician}}, Music/{{Nero}}).
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* Post-2005 Music/{{Nightwish}} or Tarja Turunen's solo career. You aren't allowed to like both.

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* Post-2005 Music/{{Nightwish}} Music/{{Nightwish|Band}} or Tarja Turunen's solo career. You aren't allowed to like both.
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* Mostly within the Music/{{Genesis}} fandom, Music/PeterGabriel vs. Music/PhilCollins. Quite the case of FanDumb, as both are friends, respect each other greatly as artists and continued to work together for years after Peter Gabriel left Genesis, with Collins contributing spectacular drumwork on many of Gabriel's solo albums (and being stunned by the quality in the process, joking Gabriel had been holding back his best material for his solo career) and Gabriel himself stating that Collins sings Genesis's songs better than he did. (Objectively, Collins does have a better vocal range, though Gabriel is more creative and experimental, so it balances out.)

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* Mostly within the Music/{{Genesis}} Music/{{Genesis|Band}} fandom, Music/PeterGabriel vs. Music/PhilCollins. Quite the case of FanDumb, as both are friends, respect each other greatly as artists and continued to work together for years after Peter Gabriel left Genesis, with Collins contributing spectacular drumwork on many of Gabriel's solo albums (and being stunned by the quality in the process, joking Gabriel had been holding back his best material for his solo career) and Gabriel himself stating that Collins sings Genesis's songs better than he did. (Objectively, Collins does have a better vocal range, though Gabriel is more creative and experimental, so it balances out.)
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* Music/TheSmiths vs. Music/TheCure. You could always TakeAThirdOption - Music/TheChameleons or even Music/TheGoBetweens.

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* Music/TheSmiths vs. Music/TheCure.Music/{{The Cure|Band}}. You could always TakeAThirdOption - Music/TheChameleons or even Music/TheGoBetweens.
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* Since his career first took off, Kenny G has been criticized by fans of classic jazz for being (while technically proficient) too vanilla to justify being one of the all-time bestsellers of the genre. In recent years, many ([[PoliticalCorrectnessGoneMad white]]) fans of jazz have expressed hatred simply because they claim a white artist has no right to perform jazz. Again, it's white fans saying white artists should be banned from jazz.

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* Since his career first took off, Kenny G has been criticized by fans of classic jazz for being (while technically proficient) too vanilla to justify being one of the all-time bestsellers of the genre. In recent years, many ([[PoliticalCorrectnessGoneMad ([[PoliticalOvercorrectness white]]) fans of jazz have expressed hatred simply because they claim a white artist has no right to perform jazz. Again, it's white fans saying white artists should be banned from jazz.
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** Whilst the bands both have considerable shared fans, there is something of a rivalry between Music/FaithNoMore fans and Music/MrBungle fans. Music/MrBungle fans often say Music/MrBungle's progressive structures and [[NeoclassicalPunkZydecoRockabilly genre mixing]] represents the true genius of Mike Patton, and that Music/FaithNoMore are a dumbed down poppy equivalent. Conversely, there are Music/FaithNoMore fans who say that Music/MrBungle's frequent switching of genres in song is a gimmick that hides the fact they can't write complete songs, and feel that Faith No More's songwriting is catchier and more focused in comparison. Fans of both do tend to like the FNM album "King For A Day, Fool For A Lifetime", since it features Music/MrBungle's Trey Spruance on guitar and features the most varied selection of genres the band produced.

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** Whilst the bands both have considerable shared fans, there is something of a rivalry between Music/FaithNoMore fans and Music/MrBungle fans. Music/MrBungle fans often say Music/MrBungle's progressive structures and [[NeoclassicalPunkZydecoRockabilly [[GenreMashup genre mixing]] represents the true genius of Mike Patton, and that Music/FaithNoMore are a dumbed down poppy equivalent. Conversely, there are Music/FaithNoMore fans who say that Music/MrBungle's frequent switching of genres in song is a gimmick that hides the fact they can't write complete songs, and feel that Faith No More's songwriting is catchier and more focused in comparison. Fans of both do tend to like the FNM album "King For A Day, Fool For A Lifetime", since it features Music/MrBungle's Trey Spruance on guitar and features the most varied selection of genres the band produced.
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* Music/MarilynManson and The Spooky Kids fans vs. Marilyn Manson fans vs. fans of certain eras. And you have the ones that just want Manson to make more albums like ''Music/AntichristSuperstar''. Daisy Berkowitz himself, the epicenter for the Spooky Kids vs. Manson fight, is much more relaxed on the subject, since it's 20 years old now. Manson doesn't talk about it at all. The main fan forum before Provider Module, which was The Heriophant, had to be shut down due to Cease and Decist orders because of the multitude of hate and death threats being posted against Manson for his changing style and look. This was the fan forum. Oddly enough, there's not much fighting between Music/NineInchNails fans and Manson fans, although Trent and Manson still bitch about each other occasionally. Dita Von Teese and Evan Rachel-Wood are hated in part of the fandom due to the ex thing. And Motionless in White is the most hated of all by all the fans, as well as by longtime allies, the Rammstein fans.

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* Music/MarilynManson and The Spooky Kids fans vs. Marilyn Manson fans vs. fans of certain eras. And you have the ones that just want Manson to make more albums like ''Music/AntichristSuperstar''. Daisy Berkowitz himself, the epicenter for the Spooky Kids vs. Manson fight, is much more relaxed on the subject, since it's 20 years old now. Manson doesn't talk about it at all. The main fan forum before Provider Module, which was The Heriophant, had to be shut down due to Cease and Decist orders because of the multitude of hate and death threats being posted against Manson for his changing style and look. This was the fan forum. Oddly enough, there's not much fighting between Music/NineInchNails fans and Manson fans, although Trent and Manson still bitch about each other occasionally. Dita Von Teese and Evan Rachel-Wood are hated in part of the fandom due to the ex thing.thing, though this has largely died down after Evan's testimony on Manson in 2020. And Motionless in White is the most hated of all by all the fans, as well as by longtime allies, the Rammstein fans.

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