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Nearly every antagonist in ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' has been portrayed in a positive light by some fans. This is if nothing else somewhat more justified than in other fandoms, considering that the show runs on ThePowerOfFriendship and many of its villains end up performing a HeelFaceTurn sooner or later.

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Nearly every antagonist in ''WesternAnimation/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagic'' has been [[DracoInLeatherPants portrayed in a positive light light]] by some fans. This is if nothing else somewhat more justified than in other fandoms, considering that the show runs on ThePowerOfFriendship and many of its villains end up performing a HeelFaceTurn sooner or later.
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Even indirectly, there is no guilt on it, and the quotation marks for the word tried are completely inappropriate


* "The Great and Powerful" Trixie's initial appearance in "Boast Busters" had fans protesting she was just a traveling entertainer whose audience was being unnecessarily mocking and hostile, and that she was justified in humiliating ponies in front of their friends and neighbors, and that she was unjustly punished by losing everything she possessed at the end of the episode. This ignores that Trixie is a boastful showoff who makes up stories for entertainment both on-stage and off-stage. She did seem guilty about one of her lies indirectly leading to [[BearsAreBadNews an Ursa Minor attacking Ponyville]], and admirably ''tried'' to fight it off, but after the threat is dealt with by Twilight Sparkle, Trixie's right back to being all bluff and bravado. After she was gone, there were many a fic that shipped Trixie with Twilight that absolved Trixie of any and all wrongdoing, placing the blame on the people of Ponyville for not bowing to her glory, or for Snips and Snails over leading the Ursa Minor to town so Trixie could defeat it.

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* "The Great and Powerful" Trixie's initial appearance in "Boast Busters" had fans protesting she was just a traveling entertainer whose audience was being unnecessarily mocking and hostile, and that she was justified in humiliating ponies in front of their friends and neighbors, and that she was unjustly punished by losing everything she possessed at the end of the episode. This ignores that Trixie is a boastful showoff who makes up stories for entertainment both on-stage and off-stage. She did seem guilty about one of her lies indirectly leading to [[BearsAreBadNews an Ursa Minor attacking Ponyville]], and admirably ''tried'' to fight it off, but after the threat is dealt with by Twilight Sparkle, Trixie's right back to being all bluff and bravado. After she was gone, there were many a fic that shipped Trixie with Twilight that absolved Trixie of any and all wrongdoing, placing the blame on the people of Ponyville for not bowing to her glory, or for Snips and Snails over leading the Ursa Minor to town so Trixie could defeat it.
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* King Sombra gets some of this in fan works. In canon, he was a full-fledged example of DarkIsEvil, and he enslaved the ponies of the Crystal Empire to rule over them as a despotic mad-stallion. He is killed at the end of his first appearance, his next appearance in the series proper was a "what-if" scenario where he was even worse: In that story, he's waging a war against Equestria with mind-controlled soldiers/slaves, and it's implied that it's taking everything Equestria has just to hold him back. In spite of this, some fans latch onto Sombra as a misunderstood character.

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* King Sombra gets some of this in fan works. In canon, he was a full-fledged example of DarkIsEvil, and he enslaved the ponies of the Crystal Empire to rule over them as a despotic mad-stallion. He is killed at the end of his first appearance, his next appearance in the series proper was a "what-if" scenario where he was even worse: In that story, he's waging a war against Equestria with mind-controlled soldiers/slaves, and it's implied that it's taking everything Equestria has just to hold him back. In spite of this, some fans latch onto Sombra as a misunderstood character. There are some who even treat the more sympathetic traits of his comic counterpart as canon, despite season 9 decanonizing them.
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* [[EnfantTerrible Cozy Glow]] wildly gets this treatment as many fans refusing to accept a child being so irredeemably evil without explanation. Nearly all her fan works invent sympathetic backstory or genuine positive traits, which there's no evidence for in canon, in order to "prove" her redeemable and [[RonTheDeathEater bash the heroes for how they treated her]]. This overlooks Cozy was at a School of Friendship, learning friendship, with teachers, the Cmc and the Student six who treated her like a friend. Despite all this, she still had no remorse for betraying them and used the Magic of Friendship for evil. She was intelligent enough to be fully aware her action were evil yet [[CardCarryingVillain proudly declared herself a villain]] and willfully commit the same evildoings for which Tirek and Chrysalis[[note]]stealing Equestria's magic to rule over it, faking and betraying friendship, and manipulate everyone for the sake of power[[/note]] were identically punished without any remorse, and refused redemption/friendship [[RedemptionRejection when offered by the heroes]] and [[IgnoredEpiphany even after realizing it's merits]].

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* [[EnfantTerrible Cozy Glow]] wildly gets this treatment as many fans refusing to accept a child being so irredeemably evil without explanation. Nearly all her fan works invent sympathetic backstory or genuine positive traits, which there's no evidence for in canon, in order to "prove" her redeemable and [[RonTheDeathEater bash the heroes for how they treated her]]. This overlooks Cozy was at a School of Friendship, learning friendship, with teachers, the Cmc CMC and the Student Young six who treated her like a friend. Despite all this, she still had no remorse for betraying them and used the Magic of Friendship for evil. She was intelligent enough to be fully aware her action were evil yet [[CardCarryingVillain proudly declared herself a villain]] and willfully commit the same evildoings for which Tirek and Chrysalis[[note]]stealing Equestria's magic to rule over it, faking and betraying friendship, and manipulate everyone for the sake of power[[/note]] were identically punished without any remorse, and refused redemption/friendship [[RedemptionRejection when offered by the heroes]] and [[IgnoredEpiphany even after realizing it's merits]].
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** There is also the fact that, despite its ubiquity in fanworks, the idea that the changelings are actually her children was nothing more than popular fanon with no canon support until Season 6, where a flashback by Thorax, a former Changeling of her hive, ''does'' show her watching over changeling eggs and hatchlings with the implication she at least raised them, but this along with prior mentioned theory of being their mother has been jossed with the appearance of Ocellus' parents in Season 8. "To Where and Back Again" also reveals that Chrysalis was using the changelings' hunger to fuel her own ambitions, keeping them in a state of perpetual starvation so that she could control them. When it is discovered that Changelings are supposed to ''share'' love instead of taking it to truly satiate their hunger, Chrysalis is the only changeling to disregard the notion and outright [[RedemptionRejection reject redemption entirely]], as well as show her brutally punish (and possibly kill) any Changeling who questions her, and is implied to have starved them since young in order to manipulate them. Of course, this tends to be ignored by some of her fans, who refuse to see her as anything less than a noble queen and [[GoodParents Good Parents]] willing to go to war for the sake of her hive, and who was wrongfully betrayed by her people.

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** There is also the fact that, despite its ubiquity in fanworks, the idea that the changelings are actually her children was nothing more than popular fanon with no canon support until Season 6, where a flashback by Thorax, a former Changeling of her hive, ''does'' show her watching over changeling eggs and hatchlings with the implication she at least raised them, but this along with prior mentioned theory of being their mother has been jossed with the appearance of Ocellus' parents in Season 8. "To Where and Back Again" also reveals that Chrysalis was using the changelings' hunger to fuel her own ambitions, keeping them in a state of perpetual starvation so that she could control them. When it is discovered that Changelings are supposed to ''share'' love instead of taking it to truly satiate their hunger, Chrysalis is the only changeling to disregard the notion and outright [[RedemptionRejection reject redemption entirely]], as well as show her brutally punish (and possibly kill) any Changeling who questions her, and is implied to have starved them since young in order to manipulate them. Of course, this tends to be ignored by some of her fans, who refuse to see her as anything less than a noble queen and [[GoodParents Good Parents]] Parent]] willing to go to war for the sake of her hive, and who was wrongfully betrayed by her people.
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** There is also the fact that, despite its ubiquity in fanworks, the idea that the changelings are actually her children was nothing more than popular fanon with no canon support until Season 6, where a flashback by Thorax, a former Changeling of her hive, ''does'' show her watching over changeling eggs and hatchlings with the implication she at least raised them, but this along with prior mentioned theory of being their mother has been jossed with the appearance of Ocellus' parents in Season 8. "To Where and Back Again" also reveals that Chrysalis was using the changelings' hunger to fuel her own ambitions, keeping them in a state of perpetual starvation so that she could control them. When it is discovered that Changelings are supposed to ''share'' love instead of taking it to truly satiate their hunger, Chrysalis is the only changeling to disregard the notion and outright [[RedemptionRejection reject redemption entirely]], as well as show her brutally punish (and possibly kill) any Changeling who questions her, and is implied to have starved them since young in order to manipulate them. Of course, this tends to be ignored by some of her fans, who refuse to see her as anything less than a noble queen and GoodParent willing to go to war for the sake of her hive, and who was wrongfully betrayed by her people.

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** There is also the fact that, despite its ubiquity in fanworks, the idea that the changelings are actually her children was nothing more than popular fanon with no canon support until Season 6, where a flashback by Thorax, a former Changeling of her hive, ''does'' show her watching over changeling eggs and hatchlings with the implication she at least raised them, but this along with prior mentioned theory of being their mother has been jossed with the appearance of Ocellus' parents in Season 8. "To Where and Back Again" also reveals that Chrysalis was using the changelings' hunger to fuel her own ambitions, keeping them in a state of perpetual starvation so that she could control them. When it is discovered that Changelings are supposed to ''share'' love instead of taking it to truly satiate their hunger, Chrysalis is the only changeling to disregard the notion and outright [[RedemptionRejection reject redemption entirely]], as well as show her brutally punish (and possibly kill) any Changeling who questions her, and is implied to have starved them since young in order to manipulate them. Of course, this tends to be ignored by some of her fans, who refuse to see her as anything less than a noble queen and GoodParent [[GoodParents Good Parents]] willing to go to war for the sake of her hive, and who was wrongfully betrayed by her people.
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* [[EnfantTerrible Cozy Glow]] wildly gets this treatment as many fans refusing to accept a child being so irredeemably evil without explanation. Nearly all her fan works invent sympathetic backstory or genuine positive traits, which there's no evidence for in canon, in order to "prove" her redeemable and [[RonTheDeathEater bash the heroes for how they treated her]]. This overlooks Cozy was intelligent enough to be fully aware her action were evil yet [[CardCarryingVillain proudly declared herself a villain]] and willfully commit the same evildoings for which Tirek and Chrysalis[[note]]stealing Equestria's magic to rule over it, faking and betraying friendship, and manipulate everyone for the sake of power[[/note]] were identically punished without any remorse, and refused redemption/friendship [[RedemptionRejection when offered by the heroes]] and [[IgnoredEpiphany even after realizing it's merits]].

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* [[EnfantTerrible Cozy Glow]] wildly gets this treatment as many fans refusing to accept a child being so irredeemably evil without explanation. Nearly all her fan works invent sympathetic backstory or genuine positive traits, which there's no evidence for in canon, in order to "prove" her redeemable and [[RonTheDeathEater bash the heroes for how they treated her]]. This overlooks Cozy was at a School of Friendship, learning friendship, with teachers, the Cmc and the Student six who treated her like a friend. Despite all this, she still had no remorse for betraying them and used the Magic of Friendship for evil. She was intelligent enough to be fully aware her action were evil yet [[CardCarryingVillain proudly declared herself a villain]] and willfully commit the same evildoings for which Tirek and Chrysalis[[note]]stealing Equestria's magic to rule over it, faking and betraying friendship, and manipulate everyone for the sake of power[[/note]] were identically punished without any remorse, and refused redemption/friendship [[RedemptionRejection when offered by the heroes]] and [[IgnoredEpiphany even after realizing it's merits]].
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* King Sombra gets some of this in fan works. In canon, he was a full-fledged example of DarkIsEvil, and he enslaved the ponies of the Crystal Empire to rule over them as a despotic madstallion. He is killed at the end of his first appearance, his next appearance in the series proper was a "what-if" scenario where he was even worse: In that story, he's waging a war against Equestria with mind-controlled soldiers/slaves, and it's implied that it's taking everything Equestria has just to hold him back. In spite of this, some fans latch onto Sombra as a misunderstood character.

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* King Sombra gets some of this in fan works. In canon, he was a full-fledged example of DarkIsEvil, and he enslaved the ponies of the Crystal Empire to rule over them as a despotic madstallion.mad-stallion. He is killed at the end of his first appearance, his next appearance in the series proper was a "what-if" scenario where he was even worse: In that story, he's waging a war against Equestria with mind-controlled soldiers/slaves, and it's implied that it's taking everything Equestria has just to hold him back. In spite of this, some fans latch onto Sombra as a misunderstood character.
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* King Sombra gets some of this in fan works. In canon, he was a full-fledged example of DarkIsEvil, and he enslaved the ponies of the Crystal Empire to rule over them as a despotic madman. He is killed at the end of his first appearance, his next appearance in the series proper was a "what-if" scenario where he was even worse: In that story, he's waging a war against Equestria with mind-controlled soldiers/slaves, and it's implied that it's taking everything Equestria has just to hold him back. In spite of this, some fans latch onto Sombra as a misunderstood character.

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* King Sombra gets some of this in fan works. In canon, he was a full-fledged example of DarkIsEvil, and he enslaved the ponies of the Crystal Empire to rule over them as a despotic madman.madstallion. He is killed at the end of his first appearance, his next appearance in the series proper was a "what-if" scenario where he was even worse: In that story, he's waging a war against Equestria with mind-controlled soldiers/slaves, and it's implied that it's taking everything Equestria has just to hold him back. In spite of this, some fans latch onto Sombra as a misunderstood character.
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* Nightmare Moon, Princess Luna's SuperpoweredEvilSide created from the jealously over ponies being more fond of Celestia's day and sleeping through Luna's night, gets this a lot from fans that see [[RonTheDeathEater Celestia as a tyrant]], treating her as just wanting to free Equestria from Celestia's rule, despite Luna herself admitting that what she did was wrong and becoming TheAtoner in canon.

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* Nightmare Moon, Princess Luna's SuperpoweredEvilSide created from the jealously jealousy over ponies being more fond of Celestia's day and sleeping through Luna's night, gets this a lot from fans that see [[RonTheDeathEater Celestia as a tyrant]], treating her as just wanting to free Equestria from Celestia's rule, despite Luna herself admitting that what she did was wrong and becoming TheAtoner in canon.

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* Queen Chrysalis. It is very common for fans to try to justify her actions on the premise that she just wanted to feed her children. While she ''did'' mention her duty to feed her subjects in her debut episode, she put more focus on how powerful she's going to become after devouring Equestria's love, and she proceeds immediately after to enslave all of Canterlot. Assuming that having to feed one's kids forgives mounting an armed invasion of a peaceful nation and overthrowing its government, this still doesn't erase the evident glee Chrysalis showed at the thought of enslaving Equestria. Besides being fairly clearly moved by power hunger as much as anything else, Chrysalis doesn't display the slightest shred of remorse for any of her actions and seems [[LackOfEmpathy entirely incapable of empathy]].\\
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There is also the fact that, despite its ubiquity in fanworks, the idea that the changelings are actually her children was nothing more than popular fanon with no canon support until Season 6, where a flashback by Thorax, a former Changeling of her hive, ''does'' show her watching over changeling eggs and hatchlings with the implication she at least raised them, but this along with prior mentioned theory of being their mother has been jossed with the appearance of Ocellus' mother in season 8. "To Where and Back Again" also reveals that Chrysalis was using the changelings' hunger to fuel her own ambitions, keeping them in a state of perpetual starvation so that she could control them. When it is discovered that Changelings are supposed to ''share'' love instead of taking it to truly satiate their hunger, Chrysalis is the only changeling to disregard the notion and outright [[RedemptionRejection reject redemption entirely]], as well as show her brutally punish (and possibly kill) any Changeling who questions her, and is implied to have starved them since young in order to manipulate them. Of course, this tends to be ignored by some of her fans, who refuse to see her as anything less than a noble queen and GoodParent willing to go to war for the sake of her hive, and who was wrongfully betrayed by her people.

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* Queen Chrysalis. It is very common for fans to try to justify her actions on the premise that she just wanted to feed her children. While she ''did'' mention her duty to feed her subjects in her debut episode, she put more focus on how powerful she's going to become after devouring Equestria's love, and she proceeds immediately after to enslave all of Canterlot. Assuming that having to feed one's kids forgives mounting an armed invasion of a peaceful nation and overthrowing its government, this still doesn't erase the evident glee Chrysalis showed at the thought of enslaving Equestria. Besides being fairly clearly moved by power hunger as much as anything else, Chrysalis doesn't display the slightest shred of remorse for any of her actions and seems [[LackOfEmpathy entirely incapable of empathy]].\\
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There is also the fact that, despite its ubiquity in fanworks, the idea that the changelings are actually her children was nothing more than popular fanon with no canon support until Season 6, where a flashback by Thorax, a former Changeling of her hive, ''does'' show her watching over changeling eggs and hatchlings with the implication she at least raised them, but this along with prior mentioned theory of being their mother has been jossed with the appearance of Ocellus' mother parents in season Season 8. "To Where and Back Again" also reveals that Chrysalis was using the changelings' hunger to fuel her own ambitions, keeping them in a state of perpetual starvation so that she could control them. When it is discovered that Changelings are supposed to ''share'' love instead of taking it to truly satiate their hunger, Chrysalis is the only changeling to disregard the notion and outright [[RedemptionRejection reject redemption entirely]], as well as show her brutally punish (and possibly kill) any Changeling who questions her, and is implied to have starved them since young in order to manipulate them. Of course, this tends to be ignored by some of her fans, who refuse to see her as anything less than a noble queen and GoodParent willing to go to war for the sake of her hive, and who was wrongfully betrayed by her people.
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* Discord was [[VileVillainSaccharineShow a ruthless tyrant]] who plunged Equestria into a WorldGoneMad[=/=]WorldOfChaos and {{brainwashed}} the Mane Six into hateful mockeries of themselves to turn them against each other, [[ForTheEvulz all for his own entertainment]]. Regardless, being a FauxAffablyEvil trickste] led many fans to depict him as a cheerful prankster who just wants a bit of fun in an [[PaintingTheFrostOnWindows overly-managed world]], often going so far as to give him a HeelFaceTurn which is [[EasilyForgiven readily accepted]] by everypony. While this is exactly what happens in "Keep Calm And Flutter On" , [[ReformedButNotTamed he's still a huge jerk]] who is an antihero ''at best'', which his fans continue to ignore.

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* Discord was [[VileVillainSaccharineShow a ruthless tyrant]] who plunged Equestria into a WorldGoneMad[=/=]WorldOfChaos and {{brainwashed}} the Mane Six into hateful mockeries of themselves to turn them against each other, [[ForTheEvulz all for his own entertainment]]. Regardless, being a FauxAffablyEvil trickste] trickster led many fans to depict him as a cheerful prankster who just wants a bit of fun in an [[PaintingTheFrostOnWindows overly-managed world]], often going so far as to give him a HeelFaceTurn which is [[EasilyForgiven readily accepted]] by everypony. While this is exactly what happens in "Keep Calm And Flutter On" , [[ReformedButNotTamed he's still a huge jerk]] who is an antihero ''at best'', which his fans continue to ignore.

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* "The Great and Powerful" Trixie's initial appearance in "Boast Busters" had fans protesting she was just a traveling entertainer whose audience was being unnecessarily mocking and hostile, and that she was justified in humiliating ponies in front of their friends and neighbors, and that she was unjustly punished by losing everything she possessed at the end of the episode. This ignores that Trixie is a boastful showoff who makes up stories for entertainment both on-stage and off-stage. She did seem guilty about one of her lies indirectly leading to [[BearsAreBadNews an Ursa Minor attacking Ponyville]], and admirably ''tried'' to fight it off, but after the threat is dealt with by Twilight Sparkle, Trixie's right back to being all bluff and bravado. After she was gone, there were many a fic that shipped Trixie with Twilight that absolved Trixie of any and all wrongdoing, placing the blame on the people of Ponyville for not bowing to her glory, or for Snips and Snails over leading the Ursa Minor to town so Trixie could defeat it.\\
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Even after Trixie's HeelFaceTurn, she still got this treatment a lot. Starlight Glimmer is one of the few close friends that Trixie has, bonding over the fact that they're former villains and {{Anti Hero}}es. However, episodes which feature Starlight and Trixie have Trixie's fans demonizing everything Starlight does in an attempt to absolve Trixie of responsibility. Episodes like "A Horse Shoe-In" and "No Second Prances" see Trixie's ego and need to feel superior cause massive rifts between her and Starlight, either because Trixie went behind Starlight's back or ignored the consequences of her actions. Even then, all of the blame will sometimes be shifted to Starlight (or even Twilight, depending on the episode) while also downplaying Trixie's own wrongdoings as if she did nothing wrong.

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* "The Great and Powerful" Trixie's initial appearance in "Boast Busters" had fans protesting she was just a traveling entertainer whose audience was being unnecessarily mocking and hostile, and that she was justified in humiliating ponies in front of their friends and neighbors, and that she was unjustly punished by losing everything she possessed at the end of the episode. This ignores that Trixie is a boastful showoff who makes up stories for entertainment both on-stage and off-stage. She did seem guilty about one of her lies indirectly leading to [[BearsAreBadNews an Ursa Minor attacking Ponyville]], and admirably ''tried'' to fight it off, but after the threat is dealt with by Twilight Sparkle, Trixie's right back to being all bluff and bravado. After she was gone, there were many a fic that shipped Trixie with Twilight that absolved Trixie of any and all wrongdoing, placing the blame on the people of Ponyville for not bowing to her glory, or for Snips and Snails over leading the Ursa Minor to town so Trixie could defeat it.\\
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Even after Trixie's HeelFaceTurn, she still got this treatment a lot. Starlight Glimmer is one of the few close friends that Trixie has, bonding over the fact that they're former villains and {{Anti Hero}}es. However, episodes which feature Starlight and Trixie have Trixie's fans demonizing everything Starlight does in an attempt to absolve Trixie of responsibility. Episodes like "A Horse Shoe-In" and "No Second Prances" see Trixie's ego and need to feel superior cause massive rifts between her and Starlight, either because Trixie went behind Starlight's back or ignored the consequences of her actions. Even then, all of the blame will sometimes be shifted to Starlight (or even Twilight, depending on the episode) while also downplaying Trixie's own wrongdoings as if she did nothing wrong.

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Cleanup said she can be added back as, despite the legitimate fan objections to her canon portrayal, they still fix it by whitewashing her rather than make her unsympathetic as intended.


* Gilda the Griffon from "Griffon the Brush-Off" is an obnoxious bully who thinks all the ponies of Ponyville (except her old friend Rainbow Dash) are "lame-o", and who literally scares Fluttershy to tears at one point. When her true colors are exposed at a party thrown by Pinkie Pie in an effort to get her to lighten up, screaming her head off at her so-called best friend and refusing to take her own medicine, she's quick to turn against Dash for being a "flip-flop" by sticking up for the other ponies, and leaves town in a huff. Fans were quick to portray her as a JerkassWoobie wracked with guilt and self-hatred over alienating her oldest and best friend year before her return gave her actual such and redemption.

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* Gilda the Griffon from "Griffon the Brush-Off" is an obnoxious bully who thinks all the ponies of Ponyville (except her old friend Rainbow Dash) are "lame-o", and who literally scares Fluttershy to tears at one point. When her true colors are exposed at a party thrown by Pinkie Pie in an effort to get her to lighten up, screaming her head off at her so-called best friend and refusing to take her own medicine, she's quick to turn against Dash for being a "flip-flop" by sticking up for the other ponies, and leaves town in a huff. Fans were quick to portray her as a JerkassWoobie wracked with guilt and self-hatred over alienating her oldest and best friend year years before her return gave her actual such and redemption.



* Even ''Tirek'', the SatanicArchetype that he is, gets the leather pants by fans thinking that, like Discord and Diamond Tiara, he just wanted friends and felt [[ThenLetMeBeEvil betrayed]] when his brother joined the ponies and ignored him. These same fans are quick to ignore the fact that he drained the life force out of most of Equestria's population, could have had Discord's friendship but instead betrayed him without a second thought, and in a bad future in the S5 Finale, blasts the ''shit'' out of the entire world while growing to increasingly terrifying heights and not giving a damn that ponies are being hurt by his actions. Fans will give him an excuse that his parents were at the very least neglectful or raised him TheSpartanWay, his brother was the cause of his evil.

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* Even ''Tirek'', the SatanicArchetype that he is, gets the leather pants by fans thinking that, like Discord and Diamond Tiara, he just wanted friends and felt [[ThenLetMeBeEvil betrayed]] when his brother joined the ponies and ignored him. These same fans are quick to ignore the fact that he drained the life force out of most of Equestria's population, could have had Discord's friendship but instead betrayed him without a second thought, and in a bad future in the S5 Finale, blasts the ''shit'' out of the entire world while growing to increasingly terrifying heights and not giving a damn care that ponies are being hurt by his actions. Fans will give him an excuse that his parents were at the very least neglectful or raised him TheSpartanWay, his brother was the cause of his evil.


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* [[EnfantTerrible Cozy Glow]] wildly gets this treatment as many fans refusing to accept a child being so irredeemably evil without explanation. Nearly all her fan works invent sympathetic backstory or genuine positive traits, which there's no evidence for in canon, in order to "prove" her redeemable and [[RonTheDeathEater bash the heroes for how they treated her]]. This overlooks Cozy was intelligent enough to be fully aware her action were evil yet [[CardCarryingVillain proudly declared herself a villain]] and willfully commit the same evildoings for which Tirek and Chrysalis[[note]]stealing Equestria's magic to rule over it, faking and betraying friendship, and manipulate everyone for the sake of power[[/note]] were identically punished without any remorse, and refused redemption/friendship [[RedemptionRejection when offered by the heroes]] and [[IgnoredEpiphany even after realizing it's merits]].
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* Discord was [[VileVillainSaccharineShow a ruthless tyrant]] who plunged Equestria into a WorldGoneMad[=/=]WorldOfChaos and [[{{Brainwashed}} brainwashed]] the Mane Six into hateful mockeries of themselves to turn them against each other, [[ForTheEvulz all for his own entertainment]]. Regardless, being a FauxAffablyEvil [[TheTrickster Trickster]] led many fans to depict him as a cheerful prankster who just wants a bit of fun in an [[PaintingTheFrostOnWindows overly-managed world]], often going so far as to give him a HeelFaceTurn which is [[EasilyForgiven readily accepted]] by everypony. Where this is exactly what happens in "Keep Calm And Flutter On" , but even afterwards [[ReformedButNotTamed he's still a huge jerk]] who is an antihero ''at best'', which his fans continue to ignore.

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* Discord was [[VileVillainSaccharineShow a ruthless tyrant]] who plunged Equestria into a WorldGoneMad[=/=]WorldOfChaos and [[{{Brainwashed}} brainwashed]] {{brainwashed}} the Mane Six into hateful mockeries of themselves to turn them against each other, [[ForTheEvulz all for his own entertainment]]. Regardless, being a FauxAffablyEvil [[TheTrickster Trickster]] trickste] led many fans to depict him as a cheerful prankster who just wants a bit of fun in an [[PaintingTheFrostOnWindows overly-managed world]], often going so far as to give him a HeelFaceTurn which is [[EasilyForgiven readily accepted]] by everypony. Where While this is exactly what happens in "Keep Calm And Flutter On" , but even afterwards [[ReformedButNotTamed he's still a huge jerk]] who is an antihero ''at best'', which his fans continue to ignore.
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* Silver Spoon, the BetaBitch to Diamond Tiara's AlphaBitch gets a large amount of fan sympathy. On the show she's portrayed as a follower, but fans forget that she's a willing accomplice to Diamond Tiara, liking to portray her as a BeleagueredAssistant and have Silver Spoon often question how much their VillainousFriendship means. Fanon Silver Spoon will express remorse when the CMC are bullied, and the ''one'' PetTheDog moment she had in canon is treated like an everyday occurrence.

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* Silver Spoon, the BetaBitch to Diamond Tiara's AlphaBitch gets a large amount of fan sympathy. On the show she's portrayed as a follower, but fans forget that she's a willing accomplice to Diamond Tiara, lacking a FreudianExcuse which Diamond eventually got, liking to portray her as a BeleagueredAssistant and have Silver Spoon often question how much their VillainousFriendship means. Fanon Silver Spoon will express remorse when the CMC are bullied, and the ''one'' PetTheDog moment she had in canon is treated like an everyday occurrence.

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* Gilda the Griffon from "Griffon the Brush-Off" is an obnoxious bully who thinks all the ponies of Ponyville (except her old friend Rainbow Dash) are "lame-o", and who literally scares Fluttershy to tears at one point. When her true colors are exposed at a party thrown by Pinkie Pie in an effort to get her to lighten up, screaming her head off at her so-called best friend and refusing to take her own medicine, she's quick to turn against Dash for being a "flip-flop" by sticking up for the other ponies, and leaves town in a huff. Fans were quick to portray her as a JerkassWoobie wracked with guilt and self-hatred over alienating her oldest and best friend.
** When Gilda reappeared four seasons later, she was established to have gotten her hard edge from a hard life in a run-down falling-apart town where "get as much money as I can so I can afford to get outta this dump!" is everyone's sole motivation in life, and Gilda's still about the ''nicest'' it gets in that place. Even so, Gilda had to be talked into saving Rainbow Dash's life from a canyon, and still did it in a snarky way. While Gilda didn't completely lose her edge, it did inspire another round of fics portraying Gilda as much more internally conflicted and guilt-ridden than she was presented.
* "The Great and Powerful" Trixie was hit with this after nearly every appearance she made while also still receiving this treatment even after she pulled a HeelFaceTurn. Trixie is a boastful, arrogant [[TheBully bully]] who loves to push herself up by bringing other people down, and who [[PaperTiger can't back up the boasts she makes]]. While she did get better about it as the series progressed, including some genuine character development into a KnightInSourArmor, her first few appearances had fans that painted her as a JerkassWoobie whose behavior was either excusable or totally justified. To this day, so many fans go out of their way to downplay Trixie's own mistakes while painting the other characters as if the bad situation was their cause alone.
** Trixie's initial appearance in "Boast Busters" had fans protesting she was just a traveling entertainer whose audience was being unnecessarily mocking and hostile, and that she was justified in humiliating ponies in front of their friends and neighbors, and that she was unjustly punished by losing everything she possessed at the end of the episode. This ignores that Trixie is a boastful showoff who makes up stories for entertainment both on-stage and off-stage. She did seem guilty about one of her lies indirectly leading to [[BearsAreBadNews an Ursa Minor attacking Ponyville]], and admirably ''tried'' to fight it off, but after the threat is dealt with by Twilight Sparkle, Trixie's right back to being all bluff and bravado. After she was gone, there were many a fic that shipped Trixie with Twilight that absolved Trixie of any and all wrongdoing, placing the blame on the people of Ponyville for not bowing to her glory, or for Snips and Snails over leading the Ursa Minor to town so Trixie could defeat it.
** At the end of "Magic Duel", Trixie does have a supposed HeelFaceTurn and renames herself as "The Great and ''Apologetic'' Trixie". Funnily enough, the reason she initially stated for her revenge (having her reputation and livelihood destroyed) were the exact same things her fans complained about. This came back in full force in "No Second Prances" as some fans cried foul at what they thought was a KnightTemplar Twilight Sparkle destroying Trixie's emerging friendship with Starlight Glimmer when it was actually Trixie [[OpenMouthInsertFoot opening her mouth and seeing how many hooves she can fit into it]] that ruined their friendship temporarily.
** Even after Trixie's HeelFaceTurn stuck, she still got this treatment a lot. Starlight Glimmer is one of the few close friends that Trixie has, bonding over the fact that they're former villains and {{Anti Hero}}es. However, episodes which feature Starlight and Trixie have Trixie's fans demonizing everything Starlight does in an attempt to absolve Trixie of responsibility. Episodes like "A Horse Shoe-In" and "No Second Prances" see Trixie's ego and need to feel superior cause massive rifts between her and Starlight, either because Trixie went behind Starlight's back or ignored the consequences of her actions. Even then, all of the blame will sometimes be shifted to Starlight (or even Twilight, depending on the episode) while also downplaying Trixie's own wrongdoings as if she did nothing wrong.

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* Gilda the Griffon from "Griffon the Brush-Off" is an obnoxious bully who thinks all the ponies of Ponyville (except her old friend Rainbow Dash) are "lame-o", and who literally scares Fluttershy to tears at one point. When her true colors are exposed at a party thrown by Pinkie Pie in an effort to get her to lighten up, screaming her head off at her so-called best friend and refusing to take her own medicine, she's quick to turn against Dash for being a "flip-flop" by sticking up for the other ponies, and leaves town in a huff. Fans were quick to portray her as a JerkassWoobie wracked with guilt and self-hatred over alienating her oldest and best friend.
** When Gilda reappeared four seasons later, she was established to have gotten
friend year before her hard edge from a hard life in a run-down falling-apart town where "get as much money as I can so I can afford to get outta this dump!" is everyone's sole motivation in life, return gave her actual such and Gilda's still about the ''nicest'' it gets in that place. Even so, Gilda had to be talked into saving Rainbow Dash's life from a canyon, and still did it in a snarky way. While Gilda didn't completely lose her edge, it did inspire another round of fics portraying Gilda as much more internally conflicted and guilt-ridden than she was presented.
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* "The Great and Powerful" Trixie was hit with this after nearly every appearance she made while also still receiving this treatment even after she pulled a HeelFaceTurn. Trixie is a boastful, arrogant [[TheBully bully]] who loves to push herself up by bringing other people down, and who [[PaperTiger can't back up the boasts she makes]]. While she did get better about it as the series progressed, including some genuine character development into a KnightInSourArmor, her first few appearances had fans that painted her as a JerkassWoobie whose behavior was either excusable or totally justified. To this day, so many fans go out of their way to downplay Trixie's own mistakes while painting the other characters as if the bad situation was their cause alone.
**
Trixie's initial appearance in "Boast Busters" had fans protesting she was just a traveling entertainer whose audience was being unnecessarily mocking and hostile, and that she was justified in humiliating ponies in front of their friends and neighbors, and that she was unjustly punished by losing everything she possessed at the end of the episode. This ignores that Trixie is a boastful showoff who makes up stories for entertainment both on-stage and off-stage. She did seem guilty about one of her lies indirectly leading to [[BearsAreBadNews an Ursa Minor attacking Ponyville]], and admirably ''tried'' to fight it off, but after the threat is dealt with by Twilight Sparkle, Trixie's right back to being all bluff and bravado. After she was gone, there were many a fic that shipped Trixie with Twilight that absolved Trixie of any and all wrongdoing, placing the blame on the people of Ponyville for not bowing to her glory, or for Snips and Snails over leading the Ursa Minor to town so Trixie could defeat it. \n** At the end of "Magic Duel", Trixie does have a supposed HeelFaceTurn and renames herself as "The Great and ''Apologetic'' Trixie". Funnily enough, the reason she initially stated for her revenge (having her reputation and livelihood destroyed) were the exact same things her fans complained about. This came back in full force in "No Second Prances" as some fans cried foul at what they thought was a KnightTemplar Twilight Sparkle destroying Trixie's emerging friendship with Starlight Glimmer when it was actually Trixie [[OpenMouthInsertFoot opening her mouth and seeing how many hooves she can fit into it]] that ruined their friendship temporarily.\n** \\
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Even after Trixie's HeelFaceTurn stuck, HeelFaceTurn, she still got this treatment a lot. Starlight Glimmer is one of the few close friends that Trixie has, bonding over the fact that they're former villains and {{Anti Hero}}es. However, episodes which feature Starlight and Trixie have Trixie's fans demonizing everything Starlight does in an attempt to absolve Trixie of responsibility. Episodes like "A Horse Shoe-In" and "No Second Prances" see Trixie's ego and need to feel superior cause massive rifts between her and Starlight, either because Trixie went behind Starlight's back or ignored the consequences of her actions. Even then, all of the blame will sometimes be shifted to Starlight (or even Twilight, depending on the episode) while also downplaying Trixie's own wrongdoings as if she did nothing wrong.



* Discord was [[VileVillainSaccharineShow a ruthless tyrant]] who plunged Equestria into a WorldGoneMad[=/=]WorldOfChaos and [[{{Brainwashed}} brainwashed]] the Mane Six into hateful mockeries of themselves to turn them against each other, [[ForTheEvulz all for his own entertainment]]. Regardless, being a FauxAffablyEvil [[TheTrickster Trickster]] led many fans to depict him as a cheerful prankster who just wants a bit of fun in an [[PaintingTheFrostOnWindows overly-managed world]], often going so far as to give him a HeelFaceTurn which is [[EasilyForgiven readily accepted]] by everypony. All of this became HilariousInHindsight with the episode "Keep Calm And Flutter On" where this is exactly what happens, but even afterwards [[ReformedButNotTamed he's still a huge jerk]] who is an antihero ''at best'', which his fans continue to ignore.
** Discord's fans have also leaped to justify his betrayal of the Mane 6 in the Season 4 finale, claiming that he only did so because the Mane 6 have treated him like dirt after his reformation, with the exception of [[MoralityPet Fluttershy]]. While this is for the most part true, this ignores the fact that even after his reformation, Discord has consistently proven himself to be a manipulative, egocentric {{Jerkass}} who enjoys causing conflict ForTheEvulz and puts people in mortal danger, which doesn't exactly make him an easy person to get along with. They also forget that Pinkie did try to reach out to him in [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS4E11ThreesACrowd Three's a Crowd]] but he distracted her to get rid of her. It also helps that while Discord reformed, it wouldn't have been smart to trust him easily anyway. In addition, he didn't hesitate to betray Fluttershy either.

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* Discord was [[VileVillainSaccharineShow a ruthless tyrant]] who plunged Equestria into a WorldGoneMad[=/=]WorldOfChaos and [[{{Brainwashed}} brainwashed]] the Mane Six into hateful mockeries of themselves to turn them against each other, [[ForTheEvulz all for his own entertainment]]. Regardless, being a FauxAffablyEvil [[TheTrickster Trickster]] led many fans to depict him as a cheerful prankster who just wants a bit of fun in an [[PaintingTheFrostOnWindows overly-managed world]], often going so far as to give him a HeelFaceTurn which is [[EasilyForgiven readily accepted]] by everypony. All of Where this became HilariousInHindsight with the episode is exactly what happens in "Keep Calm And Flutter On" where this is exactly what happens, , but even afterwards [[ReformedButNotTamed he's still a huge jerk]] who is an antihero ''at best'', which his fans continue to ignore.
** Discord's fans have also leaped to justify his betrayal of the Mane 6 in the Season 4 finale, claiming that he only did so because the Mane 6 have treated him like dirt after his reformation, with the exception of [[MoralityPet Fluttershy]]. While this is for the most part true, this ignores the fact that even after his reformation, Discord has consistently proven himself to be a manipulative, egocentric {{Jerkass}} who enjoys causing conflict ForTheEvulz and puts people in mortal danger, which doesn't exactly make him an easy person to get along with. They also forget that Pinkie did try to reach out to him in [[Recap/MyLittlePonyFriendshipIsMagicS4E11ThreesACrowd Three's a Crowd]] but he distracted her to get rid of her. It also helps that while Discord reformed, it wouldn't have been smart to trust him easily anyway. In addition, he didn't hesitate to betray Fluttershy either.
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There is also the fact that, despite its ubiquity in fanworks, the idea that the changelings are actually her children was nothing more than popular fanon with no canon support until Season 6, where a flashback by Thorax, a former Changeling of her hive, ''does'' show her watching over changeling eggs and hatchlings with the implication she at least raised them, but this along with prior mentioned theory of being their mother has been jossed with the appearance of Ocellus' mother in season 8. "To Where and Back Again" also reveals that Chrysalis was using the changelings' hunger to fuel her own ambitions, keeping them in a state of perpetual starvation so that she could control them. When it is discovered that Changelings are supposed to ''share'' love instead of taking it to truly satiate their hunger, Chrysalis is the only changeling to disregard the notion and outright [[RedemptionRejection reject redemption entirely]]. Of course, this tends to be ignored by some of her fans, who refuse to see her as anything less than a noble queen willing to go to war for the sake of her hive, and who was wrongfully betrayed by her people.
** The Changeling race as a whole also gets the Leather Pants treatment, mostly due to the implications of BlueAndOrangeMorality that comes naturally with {{Emotion Eater}}s, with some JustFollowingOrders mixed in for good measure. In fact, this actually has foundation in canon -- the Changelings pull a HeelRaceTurn in the season six finale, after it is revealed that they are meant to share love instead of take it. Chrysalis is actually the only Changeling to ''reject'' this idea. Which has ironically led to the Changeling race, as well as Thorax, receiving the RonTheDeathEater treatment for supposedly betraying their loving queen and possibly mother who has [[BlatantLies done nothing but care for them]]. This, of course, ignores the fact that Chrysalis has shown a willingness to brutally punish (and possibly kill) any Changeling who questions her, and is implied to have starved them since young in order to manipulate them.
* King Sombra gets some of this in fan works. In canon, he was a full-fledged example of DarkIsEvil, and he enslaved the ponies of the Crystal Empire to rule over them as a despotic madman. He is killed at the end of his first appearance, his next appearance in the series proper was a "what-if" scenario where he was even worse: In that story, he's waging a war against Equestria with mind-controlled soldiers/slaves, and it's implied that it's taking everything Equestria has just to hold him back. In spite of this, some fans latch onto Sombra as a misunderstood character, mostly citing his appearance in the comic books, which as of the Season 9 premiere [[CanonDiscontinuity are no longer considered canon]] to the show, where his backstory saw him get mistreated and [[ThenLetMeBeEvil fully embrace his dark side]] because he was MadeOfEvil. If not that, then Sombra is portrayed as much more competent and intimidating than he actually is, or his death is {{retcon}}ned somehow to bring him back to be much more effective.

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There is also the fact that, despite its ubiquity in fanworks, the idea that the changelings are actually her children was nothing more than popular fanon with no canon support until Season 6, where a flashback by Thorax, a former Changeling of her hive, ''does'' show her watching over changeling eggs and hatchlings with the implication she at least raised them, but this along with prior mentioned theory of being their mother has been jossed with the appearance of Ocellus' mother in season 8. "To Where and Back Again" also reveals that Chrysalis was using the changelings' hunger to fuel her own ambitions, keeping them in a state of perpetual starvation so that she could control them. When it is discovered that Changelings are supposed to ''share'' love instead of taking it to truly satiate their hunger, Chrysalis is the only changeling to disregard the notion and outright [[RedemptionRejection reject redemption entirely]]. Of course, this tends to be ignored by some of her fans, who refuse to see her as anything less than a noble queen willing to go to war for the sake of her hive, and who was wrongfully betrayed by her people.
** The Changeling race as a whole also gets the Leather Pants treatment, mostly due to the implications of BlueAndOrangeMorality that comes naturally with {{Emotion Eater}}s, with some JustFollowingOrders mixed in for good measure. In fact, this actually has foundation in canon -- the Changelings pull a HeelRaceTurn in the season six finale, after it is revealed that they are meant to share love instead of take it. Chrysalis is actually the only Changeling to ''reject'' this idea. Which has ironically led to the Changeling race,
entirely]], as well as Thorax, receiving the RonTheDeathEater treatment for supposedly betraying their loving queen and possibly mother who has [[BlatantLies done nothing but care for them]]. This, of course, ignores the fact that Chrysalis has shown a willingness to show her brutally punish (and possibly kill) any Changeling who questions her, and is implied to have starved them since young in order to manipulate them.
them. Of course, this tends to be ignored by some of her fans, who refuse to see her as anything less than a noble queen and GoodParent willing to go to war for the sake of her hive, and who was wrongfully betrayed by her people.
* King Sombra gets some of this in fan works. In canon, he was a full-fledged example of DarkIsEvil, and he enslaved the ponies of the Crystal Empire to rule over them as a despotic madman. He is killed at the end of his first appearance, his next appearance in the series proper was a "what-if" scenario where he was even worse: In that story, he's waging a war against Equestria with mind-controlled soldiers/slaves, and it's implied that it's taking everything Equestria has just to hold him back. In spite of this, some fans latch onto Sombra as a misunderstood character, mostly citing his appearance in the comic books, which as of the Season 9 premiere [[CanonDiscontinuity are no longer considered canon]] to the show, where his backstory saw him get mistreated and [[ThenLetMeBeEvil fully embrace his dark side]] because he was MadeOfEvil. If not that, then Sombra is portrayed as much more competent and intimidating than he actually is, or his death is {{retcon}}ned somehow to bring him back to be much more effective.character.



* Silver Spoon, the BetaBitch to Diamond Tiara's AlphaBitch gets a large amount of fan sympathy. On the show she's portrayed as a follower, but fans forget that she's a willing accomplice to Diamond Tiara, liking to portray her as a BeleagueredAssistant and have Silver Spoon often question how much their VillainousFriendship means. Silver Spoon can resist peer pressure, so this doesn't make her any better or worse than Diamond Tiara. Fanon Silver Spoon will express remorse when the CMC are bullied, and the ''one'' PetTheDog moment she had in canon is treated like an everyday occurrence.
* Diamond Tiara gets this from people think she's ''not'' an AlphaBitch at all, and is simply a LonelyRichKid whose only friend was Silver Spoon and she just wants friends. While the latter part of that statement ended up being entirely correct in Season 5's "Crusaders of the Lost Cutie Mark", in which she makes a HeelFaceTurn and becomes friends with the CMC, this redemption loses its power if you ignore that she genuinely ''was'' a cruel [[KickTheDog dog-kicking]] AlphaBitch beforehand like these fans do. Admittedly it helps that Diamond's bullying was typically limited to verbal insults, and she was never particularly violent to begin with.

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* Silver Spoon, the BetaBitch to Diamond Tiara's AlphaBitch gets a large amount of fan sympathy. On the show she's portrayed as a follower, but fans forget that she's a willing accomplice to Diamond Tiara, liking to portray her as a BeleagueredAssistant and have Silver Spoon often question how much their VillainousFriendship means. Silver Spoon can resist peer pressure, so this doesn't make her any better or worse than Diamond Tiara. Fanon Silver Spoon will express remorse when the CMC are bullied, and the ''one'' PetTheDog moment she had in canon is treated like an everyday occurrence.
* Diamond Tiara gets this from people think she's ''not'' an AlphaBitch at all, and is simply a LonelyRichKid whose only friend was Silver Spoon and she just wants friends. While the latter part of that statement ended up being entirely correct in Season 5's "Crusaders of the Lost Cutie Mark", in which she makes a HeelFaceTurn and becomes friends with the CMC, this redemption loses its power if you ignore that she genuinely ''was'' a cruel [[KickTheDog dog-kicking]] AlphaBitch beforehand like these fans do. Admittedly it helps that Diamond's bullying was typically limited to verbal insults, and she was never particularly violent to begin with.
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* Many fans sympathize with [[EnfantTerrible Cozy Glow]] and feel like her imprisonment in Tartarus in "School Raze" and being permanently [[TakenForGranite petrified]] alongside Chrysalis and Tirek in "The Ending of the End" was unfair, given she's a child and how often adult villains were EasilyForgiven. This overlooks that Cozy clearly had adult-level intelligence and awareness of her evildoing while still relishing in attempted murder, usurping power, and [[CardCarryingVillain proudly declaring herself a villain]]. She also committed the same evildoings as Chrysalis and Tirek who's punishment was comparatively uncontroversial. Like Chrysalis she was a manipulative, power-hungry psychopath who [[RedemptionRejection completely rebuffed the attempt to redeem her]] without the remorse or [[FreudianExcuse mitigating backstory]] that proved the other villains redeemable. She committed the exact same crimes as Tirek, stealing all of Equestria's magic [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt which would cause mass disaster]] to wield absolute power and backstabbed all her "friends" in the process, and she contacted Tirek in Tartarus meaning she was evil and planning this before Tirek could influence her. This, plus her [[IgnoredEpiphany willfully rejecting friendship]] even after [[GoodFeelsGood realizing its merit]] like the rest of the trio, shows even if Cozy had been given mitigating backstory revealed and/or [[LastSecondChance fair chance to repent]] she'd remain too unrepentant to redeem.
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* Diamond Tiara gets this from people think she's ''not'' an AlphaBitch at all, and is simply a LonelyRichKid who's only friend was Silver Spoon and she just wants friends. While the latter part of that statement ended up being entirely correct in Season 5's "Crusaders of the Lost Cutie Mark", in which she makes a HeelFaceTurn and becomes friends with the CMC, this redemption loses its power if you ignore that she genuinely ''was'' a cruel [[KickTheDog dog-kicking]] AlphaBitch beforehand like these fans do. Admittedly it helps that Diamond's bullying was typically limited to verbal insults, and she was never particularly violent to begin with.

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* Diamond Tiara gets this from people think she's ''not'' an AlphaBitch at all, and is simply a LonelyRichKid who's whose only friend was Silver Spoon and she just wants friends. While the latter part of that statement ended up being entirely correct in Season 5's "Crusaders of the Lost Cutie Mark", in which she makes a HeelFaceTurn and becomes friends with the CMC, this redemption loses its power if you ignore that she genuinely ''was'' a cruel [[KickTheDog dog-kicking]] AlphaBitch beforehand like these fans do. Admittedly it helps that Diamond's bullying was typically limited to verbal insults, and she was never particularly violent to begin with.
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* "The Great and Powerful" Trixie was hit with this after nearly every appearance she made until she became a reoccurring character. Trixie is a boastful, arrogant [[TheBully bully]] who loves to push herself up by bringing other people down, and who [[PaperTiger can't back up the boasts she makes]]. While she did get better about it as the series progressed, including some genuine character development into a KnightInSourArmor, her first few appearances had a few fans that painted her as a JerkassWoobie whose behavior was either excusable or totally justified.

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* "The Great and Powerful" Trixie was hit with this after nearly every appearance she made until while also still receiving this treatment even after she became pulled a reoccurring character.HeelFaceTurn. Trixie is a boastful, arrogant [[TheBully bully]] who loves to push herself up by bringing other people down, and who [[PaperTiger can't back up the boasts she makes]]. While she did get better about it as the series progressed, including some genuine character development into a KnightInSourArmor, her first few appearances had a few fans that painted her as a JerkassWoobie whose behavior was either excusable or totally justified.justified. To this day, so many fans go out of their way to downplay Trixie's own mistakes while painting the other characters as if the bad situation was their cause alone.



** Even after Trixie's HeelFaceTurn stuck, she still got this treatment. Starlight Glimmer is one of the few close friends that Trixie has, bonding over the fact that they're former villains and {{Anti Hero}}es. However, episodes which feature Starlight and Trixie have a few of Trixie's fans demonizing everything Starlight does in an attempt to absolve Trixie of responsibility. Episodes like "A Horse Shoe-In" and "No Second Prances" see Trixie's ego and need to feel superior cause massive rifts between her and Starlight, either because Trixie went behind Starlight's back or ignored the consequences of her actions. Even then, all of the blame will sometimes be shifted to Starlight (or even Twilight, depending on the episode) in the eyes of a few fans.

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** Even after Trixie's HeelFaceTurn stuck, she still got this treatment.treatment a lot. Starlight Glimmer is one of the few close friends that Trixie has, bonding over the fact that they're former villains and {{Anti Hero}}es. However, episodes which feature Starlight and Trixie have a few of Trixie's fans demonizing everything Starlight does in an attempt to absolve Trixie of responsibility. Episodes like "A Horse Shoe-In" and "No Second Prances" see Trixie's ego and need to feel superior cause massive rifts between her and Starlight, either because Trixie went behind Starlight's back or ignored the consequences of her actions. Even then, all of the blame will sometimes be shifted to Starlight (or even Twilight, depending on the episode) in the eyes of a few fans.while also downplaying Trixie's own wrongdoings as if she did nothing wrong.
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* Many fans sympathize with [[EnfantTerrible Cozy Glow]] and feel like her imprisonment in Tartarus in "School Raze" and being permanently [[TakenForGranite petrified]] alongside Chrysalis and Tirek in "The Ending of the End" was unfair, given she's a child and how often adult villains were EasilyForgiven. This overlooks that Cozy clearly had adult-level intelligence and awareness of her evildoing while still relishing in attempted murder, usurping power, and [[CardCarryingVillain proudly declaring herself a villain]]. She also committed the same evildoings as Chrysalis and Tirek who's punishment was comparatively uncontroversial. Like Chrysalis she was a manipulative, power-hungry psychopath who [[RedemptionRejection completely rebuffed the attempt to redeem her]] without the remorse or [[FreudianExcuse mitigating backstory]] that proved the other villains redeemable. She committed the exact same crimes as Tirek, stealing all of Equestria's magic [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt which would cause mass disaster]] to wield absolute power and backstabbed all her "friends" in the process, and she contacted Tirek in Tartarus meaning she was evil and planning this before Tirek could influence her. This, plus her [[IgnoredEpiphany willfully rejecting friendship]] even after [[GoodFeelsGood realizing it's merit]] like the rest of the trio, shows even if Cozy had been given mitigating backstory revealed and/or [[LastSecondChance fair chance to repent]] she'd remain too unrepentant to redeem.

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* Many fans sympathize with [[EnfantTerrible Cozy Glow]] and feel like her imprisonment in Tartarus in "School Raze" and being permanently [[TakenForGranite petrified]] alongside Chrysalis and Tirek in "The Ending of the End" was unfair, given she's a child and how often adult villains were EasilyForgiven. This overlooks that Cozy clearly had adult-level intelligence and awareness of her evildoing while still relishing in attempted murder, usurping power, and [[CardCarryingVillain proudly declaring herself a villain]]. She also committed the same evildoings as Chrysalis and Tirek who's punishment was comparatively uncontroversial. Like Chrysalis she was a manipulative, power-hungry psychopath who [[RedemptionRejection completely rebuffed the attempt to redeem her]] without the remorse or [[FreudianExcuse mitigating backstory]] that proved the other villains redeemable. She committed the exact same crimes as Tirek, stealing all of Equestria's magic [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt which would cause mass disaster]] to wield absolute power and backstabbed all her "friends" in the process, and she contacted Tirek in Tartarus meaning she was evil and planning this before Tirek could influence her. This, plus her [[IgnoredEpiphany willfully rejecting friendship]] even after [[GoodFeelsGood realizing it's its merit]] like the rest of the trio, shows even if Cozy had been given mitigating backstory revealed and/or [[LastSecondChance fair chance to repent]] she'd remain too unrepentant to redeem.
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* * Many fans sympathize with [[EnfantTerrible Cozy Glow]] and feel like her imprisonment in Tartarus in "School Raze" and being permanently [[TakenForGranite petrified]] alongside Chrysalis and Tirek in "The Ending of the End" was unfair, given she's a child and how often adult villains were EasilyForgiven. This overlooks that Cozy clearly had adult-level intelligence and awareness of her evildoing while still relishing in attempted murder, usurping power, and [[CardCarryingVillain proudly declaring herself a villain]]. She also committed the same evildoings as Chrysalis and Tirek who's punishment was comparatively uncontroversial. Like Chrysalis she was a manipulative, power-hungry psychopath who [[RedemptionRejection completely rebuffed the attempt to redeem her]] without the remorse or [[FreudianExcuse mitigating backstory]] that proved the other villains redeemable. She committed the exact same crimes as Tirek, stealing all of Equestria's magic [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt which would cause mass disaster]] to wield absolute power and backstabbed all her "friends" in the process, and she contacted Tirek in Tartarus meaning she was evil and planning this before Tirek could influence her. This, plus her [[IgnoredEpiphany willfully rejecting friendship]] even after [[GoodFeelsGood realizing it's merit]] like the rest of the trio, shows even if Cozy had been given mitigating backstory revealed and/or [[LastSecondChance fair chance to repent]] she'd remain too unrepentant to redeem.

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* * Many fans sympathize with [[EnfantTerrible Cozy Glow]] and feel like her imprisonment in Tartarus in "School Raze" and being permanently [[TakenForGranite petrified]] alongside Chrysalis and Tirek in "The Ending of the End" was unfair, given she's a child and how often adult villains were EasilyForgiven. This overlooks that Cozy clearly had adult-level intelligence and awareness of her evildoing while still relishing in attempted murder, usurping power, and [[CardCarryingVillain proudly declaring herself a villain]]. She also committed the same evildoings as Chrysalis and Tirek who's punishment was comparatively uncontroversial. Like Chrysalis she was a manipulative, power-hungry psychopath who [[RedemptionRejection completely rebuffed the attempt to redeem her]] without the remorse or [[FreudianExcuse mitigating backstory]] that proved the other villains redeemable. She committed the exact same crimes as Tirek, stealing all of Equestria's magic [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt which would cause mass disaster]] to wield absolute power and backstabbed all her "friends" in the process, and she contacted Tirek in Tartarus meaning she was evil and planning this before Tirek could influence her. This, plus her [[IgnoredEpiphany willfully rejecting friendship]] even after [[GoodFeelsGood realizing it's merit]] like the rest of the trio, shows even if Cozy had been given mitigating backstory revealed and/or [[LastSecondChance fair chance to repent]] she'd remain too unrepentant to redeem.
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DILP is about how it's unfair. Balance (why it's fair complaints) goes under other tropes when applicable.


* Many fans sympathize with [[EnfantTerrible Cozy Glow]] and feel like her imprisonment in “School Raze” and subsequent permanent [[TakenForGranite petrification]] alongside Chrysalis and Tirek in “The Ending of the End” is unfair, given that she was a child and how often the adult villains in the show were EasilyForgiven for similar or even identical crimes – though it is also worth noting that she is (seemingly) unrepentant until the very end; as well, unlike some other unrepentant villains, she attended a school actually ''dedicated'' to the idea of Friendship for nearly a full semester, and yet seemed to learn only how to manipulate and use others. Needless to say, discussions around this character tend to be...intense.

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* * Many fans sympathize with [[EnfantTerrible Cozy Glow]] and feel like her imprisonment in “School Raze” Tartarus in "School Raze" and subsequent permanent being permanently [[TakenForGranite petrification]] petrified]] alongside Chrysalis and Tirek in “The "The Ending of the End” is End" was unfair, given that she was she's a child and how often the adult villains were EasilyForgiven. This overlooks that Cozy clearly had adult-level intelligence and awareness of her evildoing while still relishing in attempted murder, usurping power, and [[CardCarryingVillain proudly declaring herself a villain]]. She also committed the same evildoings as Chrysalis and Tirek who's punishment was comparatively uncontroversial. Like Chrysalis she was a manipulative, power-hungry psychopath who [[RedemptionRejection completely rebuffed the attempt to redeem her]] without the remorse or [[FreudianExcuse mitigating backstory]] that proved the other villains redeemable. She committed the exact same crimes as Tirek, stealing all of Equestria's magic [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt which would cause mass disaster]] to wield absolute power and backstabbed all her "friends" in the show were EasilyForgiven for similar or process, and she contacted Tirek in Tartarus meaning she was evil and planning this before Tirek could influence her. This, plus her [[IgnoredEpiphany willfully rejecting friendship]] even identical crimes – though it is also worth noting that she is (seemingly) after [[GoodFeelsGood realizing it's merit]] like the rest of the trio, shows even if Cozy had been given mitigating backstory revealed and/or [[LastSecondChance fair chance to repent]] she'd remain too unrepentant until the very end; as well, unlike some other unrepentant villains, she attended a school actually ''dedicated'' to the idea of Friendship for nearly a full semester, and yet seemed to learn only how to manipulate and use others. Needless to say, discussions around this character tend to be...intense.
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Tried to write a more balanced entry for Cozy Glow.


* Many fans sympathize with [[EnfantTerrible Cozy Glow]] and feel like her imprisonment in Tartarus in "School Raze" and being permanently [[TakenForGranite petrified]] alongside Chrysalis and Tirek in "The Ending of the End" was unfair, given she's a child and how often adult villains were EasilyForgiven. This overlooks that Cozy clearly had adult-level intelligence and awareness of her evildoing while still relishing in attempted murder, usurping power, and [[CardCarryingVillain proudly declaring herself a villain]]. She also committed the same evildoings as Chrysalis and Tirek who's punishment was comparatively uncontroversial. Like Chrysalis she was a manipulative, power-hungry psychopath who [[RedemptionRejection completely rebuffed the attempt to redeem her]] without the remorse or [[FreudianExcuse mitigating backstory]] that proved the other villains redeemable. She committed the exact same crimes as Tirek, stealing all of Equestria's magic [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt which would cause mass disaster]] to wield absolute power and backstabbed all her "friends" in the process, and she contacted Tirek in Tartarus meaning she was evil and planning this before Tirek could influence her. This, plus her [[IgnoredEpiphany willfully rejecting friendship]] even after [[GoodFeelsGood realizing it's merit]] like the rest of the trio, shows even if Cozy had been given mitigating backstory revealed and/or [[LastSecondChance fair chance to repent]] she'd remain too unrepentant to redeem.

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* Many fans sympathize with [[EnfantTerrible Cozy Glow]] and feel like her imprisonment in Tartarus in "School Raze" “School Raze” and being permanently subsequent permanent [[TakenForGranite petrified]] petrification]] alongside Chrysalis and Tirek in "The “The Ending of the End" was End” is unfair, given she's that she was a child and how often the adult villains in the show were EasilyForgiven. This overlooks that Cozy clearly had adult-level intelligence and awareness of her evildoing while still relishing in attempted murder, usurping power, and [[CardCarryingVillain proudly declaring herself a villain]]. She also committed the same evildoings as Chrysalis and Tirek who's punishment was comparatively uncontroversial. Like Chrysalis she was a manipulative, power-hungry psychopath who [[RedemptionRejection completely rebuffed the attempt to redeem her]] without the remorse EasilyForgiven for similar or [[FreudianExcuse mitigating backstory]] that proved the other villains redeemable. She committed the exact same even identical crimes as Tirek, stealing all of Equestria's magic [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt which would cause mass disaster]] to wield absolute power and backstabbed all her "friends" in the process, and – though it is also worth noting that she contacted Tirek in Tartarus meaning she was evil and planning this before Tirek could influence her. This, plus her [[IgnoredEpiphany willfully rejecting friendship]] even after [[GoodFeelsGood realizing it's merit]] like the rest of the trio, shows even if Cozy had been given mitigating backstory revealed and/or [[LastSecondChance fair chance to repent]] she'd remain too is (seemingly) unrepentant until the very end; as well, unlike some other unrepentant villains, she attended a school actually ''dedicated'' to redeem.
the idea of Friendship for nearly a full semester, and yet seemed to learn only how to manipulate and use others. Needless to say, discussions around this character tend to be...intense.
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* Many fans sympathize with [[EnfantTerrible Cozy Glow]] and feel like her imprisonment in Tartarus in "School Raze" and being permanently [[TakenForGranite petrified]] alongside Chrysalis and Tirek in "The Ending of the End" was unfair, given she's a child and how often adult villains were EasilyForgiven. This overlooks that Cozy clearly had adult level intelligence and awareness of her evildoing while still relishing in attempted murder, usurping power, and [[CardCarryingVillain proudly declaring herself a villain]]. She also committed the same evildoings as Chrysalis and Tirek who's punishment was comparatively uncontroversial. Like Chrysalis she was a manipulative, power-hungry psychopath who [[RedemptionRejection completely rebuffed the attempt to redeem her]] without the remorse or [[FreudianExcuse mitigating backstory]] that proved the other villains redeemable. She committed the exact same crimes as Tirek, stealing all of Equestria's magic [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt which would cause mass disaster]] to wield absolute power and backstabbed all her "friends" in the process, and she contacted Tirek in Tartarus meaning she was evil and planning this before Tirek could influence her. This, plus her [[IgnoredEpiphany willfully rejecting friendship]] even after [[GoodFeelsGood realigns it's merit]] like the rest of the trio, shows even if Cozy had been given mitigating backstory revealed and/or [[LastSecondChance fair chance to repent]] she'd remain too unrepentant to redeem.

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* Many fans sympathize with [[EnfantTerrible Cozy Glow]] and feel like her imprisonment in Tartarus in "School Raze" and being permanently [[TakenForGranite petrified]] alongside Chrysalis and Tirek in "The Ending of the End" was unfair, given she's a child and how often adult villains were EasilyForgiven. This overlooks that Cozy clearly had adult level adult-level intelligence and awareness of her evildoing while still relishing in attempted murder, usurping power, and [[CardCarryingVillain proudly declaring herself a villain]]. She also committed the same evildoings as Chrysalis and Tirek who's punishment was comparatively uncontroversial. Like Chrysalis she was a manipulative, power-hungry psychopath who [[RedemptionRejection completely rebuffed the attempt to redeem her]] without the remorse or [[FreudianExcuse mitigating backstory]] that proved the other villains redeemable. She committed the exact same crimes as Tirek, stealing all of Equestria's magic [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt which would cause mass disaster]] to wield absolute power and backstabbed all her "friends" in the process, and she contacted Tirek in Tartarus meaning she was evil and planning this before Tirek could influence her. This, plus her [[IgnoredEpiphany willfully rejecting friendship]] even after [[GoodFeelsGood realigns realizing it's merit]] like the rest of the trio, shows even if Cozy had been given mitigating backstory revealed and/or [[LastSecondChance fair chance to repent]] she'd remain too unrepentant to redeem.
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* Many fans sympathize with Cozy Glow and feel like her imprisonment in Tartarus was unfair, given how other villains have been EasilyForgiven for crimes just as bad, including Discord who also teamed up with Tirek, and [[EnfantTerrible because she’s just a filly]]. This ignores that unlike them, she showed absolutely no remorse for any of it and Discord was already showing misgivings even before Tirek stabbed him in the back. She has shown herself to be a psychopath who relishes in attempted murder and overall power. There are those who claim she just has mental illness and doesn't know the true extent of her actions because shes just a kid despite proudly declaring herself a villain. The fact that she ends up [[TakenForGranite petrified]] alongside Chrysalis and Tirek in "The Ending of the End", with the series ending shortly afterwards (implying that she will '' [[OffscreenInertia never]]'' escape or be freed) only made this sentiment stronger.

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* Many fans sympathize with [[EnfantTerrible Cozy Glow Glow]] and feel like her imprisonment in Tartarus was unfair, given how other villains have been EasilyForgiven for crimes just as bad, including Discord who also teamed up with Tirek, in "School Raze" and [[EnfantTerrible because she’s just a filly]]. This ignores that unlike them, she showed absolutely no remorse for any of it and Discord was already showing misgivings even before Tirek stabbed him in the back. She has shown herself to be a psychopath who relishes in attempted murder and overall power. There are those who claim she just has mental illness and doesn't know the true extent of her actions because shes just a kid despite proudly declaring herself a villain. The fact that she ends up being permanently [[TakenForGranite petrified]] alongside Chrysalis and Tirek in "The Ending of the End", with the series ending shortly afterwards (implying End" was unfair, given she's a child and how often adult villains were EasilyForgiven. This overlooks that Cozy clearly had adult level intelligence and awareness of her evildoing while still relishing in attempted murder, usurping power, and [[CardCarryingVillain proudly declaring herself a villain]]. She also committed the same evildoings as Chrysalis and Tirek who's punishment was comparatively uncontroversial. Like Chrysalis she will '' [[OffscreenInertia never]]'' escape was a manipulative, power-hungry psychopath who [[RedemptionRejection completely rebuffed the attempt to redeem her]] without the remorse or be freed) only made [[FreudianExcuse mitigating backstory]] that proved the other villains redeemable. She committed the exact same crimes as Tirek, stealing all of Equestria's magic [[TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt which would cause mass disaster]] to wield absolute power and backstabbed all her "friends" in the process, and she contacted Tirek in Tartarus meaning she was evil and planning this sentiment stronger.before Tirek could influence her. This, plus her [[IgnoredEpiphany willfully rejecting friendship]] even after [[GoodFeelsGood realigns it's merit]] like the rest of the trio, shows even if Cozy had been given mitigating backstory revealed and/or [[LastSecondChance fair chance to repent]] she'd remain too unrepentant to redeem.

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