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** Tropers/{{immortalfrieza}}: The scene where L3-37 tries to get some droids in a cage match to break free... except that the movie treats this as a silly moment and L3 as bizarre for even thinking the way she does. Fans familiar with droids in the Star Wars universe know that they are in fact slaves, less than that even because can't even conceive of the idea of freedom and repeatedly given LaserGuidedAmnesia as a matter of course so they never can. In short, the DMOS for this movie is that the writers treat a very serious subject matter like it's a joke.
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* Tropers/{{Teleport Ted}}: The very OpeningScroll, which effectively pulls a "[[Series/QuantumLeap Dr. Sam Becket never returned home]]" on ''Return of the Jedi''... Sure - ''[[Franchise/StarWarsLegends Legends]]'' was no stranger to post-''[=RotJ=]'' {{Surprisingly Realistic Outcome}}s, either. But those were gradual and understandable, while this is just one big DiabolusExMachina... Say what you will about ''The Phantom Menace'', but at-least it didn't build its Trilogy on such a middle-finger foundation.
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* Tropers/{{Teleport Ted}}: The very OpeningScroll, which effectively pulls does basically a "[[Series/QuantumLeap Dr. Sam Becket never returned home]]" on to ''Return of the Jedi''...Jedi'''s ending... Sure - ''[[Franchise/StarWarsLegends Legends]]'' was no stranger to post-''[=RotJ=]'' {{Surprisingly Realistic Outcome}}s, either. But those they were gradual and understandable, while this is just one big DiabolusExMachina... Say what you will about Give me ''The Phantom Menace'', but Menace'' over this any day; at-least it the former didn't build its Trilogy on such a middle-finger foundation.
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** [=BossKey=]: Seconded. There’s a lot of things I could say about TLJ and how it left me with a sour taste in my mouth, but the way they did Luke dirty is a huge slap in the face for people who grew up with and loved the plucky farmboy-turned-Jedi Knight in the original trilogy. Luke Skywalker has always been more than just a name; he’s depicted as a wellspring of hope for his friends and the galaxy as a whole, and a hero who stared into the face of evil itself and held fast to his principles, which is why he’s become so iconic in the popular consciousness. To claim that the man who confronted and redeemed one of the evilest people in the galaxy on the basis of them being family and the knowledge that he was once a noble Jedi like Luke himself could be anywhere near the bitter old man who tried to murder his own nephew for being mildly swayed by the Dark Side and then gave up on the galaxy for decades after that backfired is a great disservice to Luke Skywalker as a character and cultural icon, as it portrays him as the very antithesis of what he stood for, and is a very damning analogy of how the sequel trilogy treats the original trilogy’s cast and their accomplishments as a whole. This, among other things, convinced me that the sequel trilogy would’ve been wholly better off as a reboot trilogy; sure, Luke in such a state would still have been tough to watch, but at least it’s not directly spitting in the face of what the original Luke Skywalker represented as a character.
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* Tropers/Kevjro7: Rey being able to use TheForce without any training. No, no, no. All other ''Star Wars'' media established that [[MagicAIsMagicA training was required before you could begin using Force powers]], and when the rules of a franchise's internal magic system are broken, you're telling the audience that you don't give a damn about logic, and you tell the audience that you don't respect the series you're working on. This made me realize that no one working on the Disney Trilogy cared about quality writing, and it set the path for TheForce to just become nothing more than a source of [[NewPowersAsThePlotDemands whatever powers that the plot required]] that plagued every future film after this one. Say what you will about Geroge's many flaws as a writer, but at least he understood that the rules of a magic system should never be broken.
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* Tropers/Kevjro7: Rey being able to use TheForce [[BackgroundMagicField The Force]] without any training. No, no, no. All other ''Star Wars'' media established that [[MagicAIsMagicA training was required before you could begin using Force powers]], and when the rules of a franchise's internal magic system are broken, you're telling the audience that you don't give a damn about logic, and you tell the audience that you don't respect the series you're working on. This made me realize that no one working on the Disney Trilogy cared about quality writing, and it set the path for TheForce The Force to just become nothing more than a source of [[NewPowersAsThePlotDemands whatever powers that the plot required]] that plagued every future film after this one. Say what you will about Geroge's many flaws as a writer, but at least he understood that the rules of a magic system should never be broken.
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* [=immortalfrieza=]: As someone who adores The Last Jedi and think it is easily the best Star Wars movie since the Original Trilogy bar none, the entirety of Rise of Skywalker is already slap to the face due to it's rather stupid and nonsensical tendency to act like TLJ never happened. However, since I can't say "the whole movie" I'll stick with a moment where I think it really hit me that the writers really didn't care. So Rey flies back to Luke's Hermit planet from TLJ, destroys the TIE she got there in, and then throws Anakin's Lightsaber in the burning wreckage expecting it to be destroyed as well. Now we get to the moment. Ghost Luke appears, catches the lightsaber, and says without a trace of sarcasm: "A Jedi's weapon deserves more respect." Up until then in the movie I was just rolling with it, but at that point I would've been shouting swears at the screen if I wasn't in a movie theater at the time. This one line made it clear that not only did the writers have no respect for continuity, no respect for writing itself, no respect for the fans, and were simply trying to get the haters who never would have been satisfied anyway on their side, but they were outright mocking TLJ and everybody who ever liked it. I felt personally insulted at that scene, designed to spit on a great and poignant scene Luke doing a similar thing in TLJ.
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* [=immortalfrieza=]: As someone who adores The Last Jedi and think it is easily the best Star Wars movie since the Original Trilogy bar none, the entirety of Rise of Skywalker is already slap to the face due to it's rather stupid and nonsensical tendency to act like TLJ never happened. However, since I can't say "the whole movie" I'll stick with a moment where I think it really hit me that the writers really didn't care. So Rey flies back to Luke's Hermit planet from TLJ, destroys the TIE she got there in, and then throws Anakin's Lightsaber in the burning wreckage expecting it to be destroyed as well. Now we get to the moment. Ghost Luke appears, catches the lightsaber, and says without a trace of sarcasm: "A Jedi's weapon deserves more respect." This was a very obvious TakeThat at the scene in TLJ where Luke throws away the lightsaber. Up until then in the movie I was just rolling with it, but at that point I would've been shouting swears at the screen if I wasn't in a movie theater at the time. This one line made it clear that not only did the writers have no respect for continuity, no respect for writing itself, no respect for the fans, and were simply trying to get the haters who never would have been satisfied anyway on their side, but they were outright mocking TLJ and everybody who ever liked it. I felt personally insulted at that scene, designed to spit on a great and poignant scene Luke doing a similar thing in TLJ.
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* Tropers/{{immortalfrieza}}: Darth Vader's BigNo scene is already widely mocked. However, what makes it a DMOS is how easy it would've been to avoid the {{Narm}} involved. A simple anguished scream would've done the job much better. Hell, just how he got off the table was kind of awkward and silly looking. Have him rip the thing apart with The Force or something! This was the return of THE Darth Vader! Vader should have been badass in this scene.
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** Tropers/{{immortalfrieza}}: I am someone who can easily defend nearly any criticism of The Last Jedi. From the Bombers, to Luke's characterization, to Snoke's death, but the one thing I cannot defend is Holdo. Had she simply told everyone "hey, I know things look bleak, but we have a plan to get out of this if everybody would just pull together" but not said anything about what the plan was, everything would've made sense. The fact that Holdo apparently tells absolutely NO ONE what the plan is including people who need to know leads to the deaths of nearly every other Resistance member who dies in the movie. The plan fails because Poe goes behind Holdo's back and tries his own plan, when for all he knew Holdo was just waiting to die. Holdo's plan would've worked just fine if only she managed morale like any leader remotely competent at the job would do. What hurts most is that this blatant stupidity on the part of Holdo (who is the worst leader ever) shot Poe's intended arc in the foot. Poe's arc is supposed to be about learning to stop being such a hotshot and grow into a leader, but Holdo gives him an absolutely terrible example. Poe causing the plan to derail because of his recklessness would have been a good teaching moment for his arc in the movie... except Holdo gave him absolutely no reason to do otherwise. What's more, Poe later admits that if he had known what the plan was he would've agreed to it.
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* emilethetemplar: The kiss. No, not [[spoiler:the one between Rey and Kylo]] even though that's awful in it's own right. What I'm talking about is the moment where two random female extras in the background kiss towards the end. Really? That's what Disney call representation? I see so many people complaining about Disney being "woke" but this isn't even the bare minimum in term of representation, this is bad marketing that was put in the movie by some out of touch straight white businessman trying to look progressive. The movie as a whole has a lot of moments that feel like they exist only for the audience and I think this one is the most representative of the problems.
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* emilethetemplar: The kiss. No, not [[spoiler:the one between Rey and Kylo]] even though that's awful in it's own right. What I'm talking about is the moment where two random female extras in the background kiss towards the end. Really? That's what Disney call representation? I see so many people complaining about Disney being "woke" but this isn't even the bare minimum in term of representation, this is bad marketing that was put in the movie by some out of touch straight white businessman trying to look progressive. The movie as a whole has a lot of moments that feel like they exist only for the audience and I think this one is the most representative of the problems.
