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[[ComicBook/MisterFantastic Reed Richards]] was one of the original members of the ComicBook/UltimateFantasticFour, the ComicBook/FantasticFour of the ComicBook/UltimateMarvel universe.

Initially, Reed lived a life not too dissimilar from the regular Reed Richards, forming the Fantastic Four and falling in love with Sue Storm. However, her rejection of him, the dissolution of his team and being transported to a different universe took its toll on him. He returned scarred, more pragmatic and seemingly devoid of humanity, taking on the role of the Ultimate universe's BigBad.

With the Ultimate universe's destruction imminent, he escaped aboard a life raft, and arrived on [[ComicBook/SecretWars2015 Battleworld]]. There, he met the Reed Richards of the main Marvel universe (Earth-616), who was wiser, kinder and more sentimental. Despising his alternate self, he tried to kill him, but would wind up literally sliced into pieces for his trouble.

When the multiverse was restored, these pieces of him were spread throughout the multiverse. However, they all shared the same consciousness, giving him a multiversal presence. He would work throughout the multiverse, but primarily out of the main Marvel universe, continuing his pursuit of absolute science.

For the trope, see TheMaker.

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** ComicBook/GhostSpider2019
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!!Tropes

* AdaptationalAngstUpgrade: As a result of having an abusive dad, this Reed had more of a troubled childhood. But in addition to that, he was bullied at school (616 Reed had a better time at school, generally getting along with his classmates). On the plus side, his mom was still around (616 Mrs. Richards died when he was young).
* AdaptationalJerkass: He initially merely started off as a case of this, as while the classic Reed could be a dick from time to time DependingOnTheWriter, he was still a compassionate leader and a devoted husband and father. This Reed is far more brooding and standoffish, even before he becomes a full-blown case of AdaptationalVillainy.
* AdaptationalVillainy: After ''ComicBook/{{Ultimatum}}'', he turns against everyone, and essentially becomes the new Doctor Doom. He's even the page image for [[AdaptationalVillainy/UltimateMarvel subpage on the subject]] for Ultimate Marvel.
* AlwaysSomeoneBetter: [[spoiler: If his rant to the new president is any indication, he considers Tony Stark this.]]
** Once he goes to the 616 universe, he finds that the other Reed Richards is smarter than him and that [[ComicBook/{{Sunspot}} Roberto da Costa]] will completely own him in a battle of wits.
* BadBoss: As the head of W.H.I.S.P.E.R., he takes his minions asking for help as volunteering to be subject to experimentation. And if they do well, he "rewards" them by removing their organs (without anaesthetic) and turning them into sycophantic insect-people.
* BigBad: Post-Ultimatum. After Magneto’s death ultimate Reed Richard’s becomes the new BigBad of the ultimate universe as a whole
* BigBadEnsemble: With Carnage and Knull for the 2018 ''Venom'' comic book run.
* BullyingADragon: In ''Venom'' Vol. 4 his offhand comment that he intends to exhume and desecrate Flash Thompson's corpse enrages the Venom symbiote, which goes berserk and overwhelms his shapeshifting powers with its own before stuffing him into a morgue locker.
* CardCarryingVillain: Not out-and-out, but during ''New Avengers'' he introduces his organization, W.H.I.S.P.H.E.R. as "AIM if they were still fun" (meaning, still committing mad science).
* CoolHelmet: His helmet looks like a cross between [[Franchise/{{Metroid}} Samus' visor]] and [[Franchise/{{Alien}} the Xenomorph's distinctive cranium.]]
* ComicBookDeath: At the end of ''Secret Wars'', Molecule Man reduces him to slices. [[spoiler:He's soon seen up and around again in the restored universe, with the reveal Owen brought him back in ''every'' new reality.]]
* DidntSeeThatComing: A consistent problem he has, sometimes because of things he legitimately couldn't know about, other times because he's an arrogant jerk and cannot consider the possibility he's wrong. Roberto [=daCosta=] uses it to outwit him ''repeatedly''.
* EveryoneHasStandards: Actually done for laughs. He'll murder entire planets, wipe out whole civilizations, tear your brain out with pliers... but he's not going to peep on someone using the can. He's got minions for ''that''.
* EvilCounterpart: To the mainstream Reed Richards. Whereas 616 Reed will always pick his family over science in the end, Ultimate Reed does not, and has discarded his humanity and his family. When the two meet, 616 Reed is shocked that any version of him could turn out like Ultimate Reed has. While the Council of Reeds were at times incredibly pragmatic, they still served the greater good in the end and devoted their lives to helping people across the multiverse; this Reed doesn't and is every bit the malevolent MadScientist the mainstream Reed feared he could become.
* EvilIsPetty: Though he'll hide it behind posturing, some of his acts are just him being a jerk who needs to show off to the world. He was already planning on betraying his universe 616 counterpart during ''Secret Wars'' anyway, but he mentions the tipping point was seeing him interact with a brainwashed / amnesiac Sue Storm and being disgusted by the emotional display.
* EvilWearsBlack: On turning evil, he discards his Fantastic Four jumpsuit for a black shirt with red TronLines. After becoming The Maker, he goes for a black jumpsuit instead.
* {{Expy}}: While he started of course as a counterpart of the original Reed Richards, he became one of [[Characters/{{Avengers Villains}} Kang The Conqueror]] and/or ComicBook/DoctorDoom.
* FallenHero: He starts out heroic like his 616 counterpart, only to descend into evil.
* FaceHeelTurn: He became a villain as well after faking his own death. He became one of the {{Big Bad}}s of the Ultimate Marvel universe, and tried to forcibly remake the world into a utopia. After ''Secret Wars'', he served as a villain to the new Ultimates.
* FightingAShadow: After Secret Wars Molecule Man puts a copy of him in ''every'' restored reality, which all share the same mind. Even if one is destroyed, another from a parallel universe can just replace him and continue his work.
* FreudianExcuse: Abused by his father, not respected by his peers, bullied in high school, and the world didn't change the way he wanted it to nor would anyone let him change it for the better. Not to mention his guilt over his role in the Ultimatum Event which killed millions in New York, Sue Storm's rejection of his marriage proposal, his teammates all quitting the Fantastic Four team, and finally his prodding to be a worldwide savior by Kang the Conqueror. Doesn't justify the stuff that he does, but damn if he didn't have it hard.
* FreudianExcuseIsNoExcuse: When Reed was a child, he was abused by his father, who had no interest or tolerance for Reed's love of science. He was not respected by his peers, bullied in high school, and wanted to change the world, but could not change it the way he wanted to because he felt no one would let him. He felt guilty over his role in the Ultimatum Event, which killed millions in New York, Sue rejected his marriage proposal, his teammates all quit the Fantastic Four, and finally he was prodded to be a worldwide savior by Kang the Conqueror. However, this does not justify his actions. He had a loving mother and two supporting sisters. He had a best friend in Ben, who protected him from bullies as a child and in high school. He was accepted into the Baxter Building, where his genius could be nurtured, a new father in Franklin Storm, and a new family in Sue, Johnny, and Ben. Yet when things fall apart he turns against his former love and friends and murders his whole family. This was best summed up by an alternate animal world version of Miles Morales.
-->'''Miles Morhames''': He committed genocide and tried to rewrite the rules of physics, economics, and society to make himself feel better and impress a girl.
* FromASingleCell: He can regenerate. Ultimate Sue even speculated there wasn't much point trying to kill him, because he'd just get better.
* FromNobodyToNightmare: He started out as a bullied teenager mocked for his intelligence, became a superhero, but after growing out of favor with the way the world is run decided to take over the world, and now he's basically the Ultimate version of Doctor Doom and someone who even 616 Thanos treats with grudging respect.
* GenreBlind: Once in the main Marvel universe. He's convinced he's got a bead on its nature, but fails to realize the entire universe is much more bizarre and fantastical than he's used to.
* GoMadFromTheRevelation: Part of why Reed went off the deep end was he, like 616 Reed, found a way to peer into the multiverse and see alternate universes. Presumably it was seeing the universes where he or at least versions of him were able to fix the world and seeing how wonderful it would be along with worlds that turned to hell because he or a version of him wasn't allowed to help was one of the major factors leading to his mental breakdown and FaceHeelTurn.
* GoodScarsEvilScars: Received from Johnny Storm, after he attempted to kill Susan Storm. For unknown reasons, it shrank over time, going from massive disfigurement to just a mild scratch across one eye. Justified by TheReveal that he's basically a HumanoidAbomination.
* HeelFaceTurn: Saw the error of his ways after Cataclysm after witnessing the alternate life he would have had if he stayed with Sue and remained a good person. Or not, as ''[[ComicBook/JonathanHickmansAvengers New Avengers]]'' revealed he was faking it, and just continued on with what he was doing anyway.
* HelmetsAreHardlyHeroic: Has a conical helmet covering his face, which handily conceals his identity.
* HeroKiller: He briefly resurrects the Captain America of his universe, then kills the man again when he stops doing what Reed says.
* HumanoidAbomination: The logical extent of his powers. After Reed becomes The Maker, he drops all pretense of being human anymore and becomes an amorphous tentacle beast able to [[MesACrowd create false bodies]] from a hair-thin tendril and even ''stretching his brain'' to become smarter.
* ImmortalImmaturity: One of the advantages of his power is he doesn't age... unfortunately for everyone else, this means he's still the stone-cold psycho he was when he first became the Maker.
* InsufferableGenius: At least part of his villainy comes from his rampant inability to admit errors of calculations or judgment on his part.
* ItsAllAboutMe: He views himself as the sole savior of the universe and feels everyone who is against him is wrong.
* ItsAllMyFault: Way back when, he did blame himself for the events of ''Ultimatum'' being kicked off by Doom. That was back when he had empathy for other people. And, all things considered, it's an unfair assessment, given the convoluted nature of that whole mess meant even Reed's best predictive models couldn't have seen it coming.
* ItGetsEasier: During ''Time Runs Out'', he actually laments that he's gotten too good at destroying alternate Earths.
* {{Jerkass}}: He had problems with this even before his FaceHeelTurn, but it kicks into overdrive once he turns.
* JerkWithAHeartOfGold: He meant well... sort of, but there are moments where he's incredibly arrogant and bad-tempered. Becomes a full on JerkWithAHeartOfJerk when he turns evil because he felt being good was holding him back.
* KarmaHoudini: One of the most egregious examples in Marvel Comics. [[spoiler:Even after [[KillEmAll everything]] he did to the Europe and Asgard of his universe, he's given no real punishment, and is even allowed to go back to working for S.H.I.E.L.D. by Nick Fury. When the Ultimate Universe is destroyed by an Incursion, Reed manages to survive on-board a life raft, escaping to Battleworld. After what goes down there, he survives and passes through into the new Marvel Universe afterward, where he restarts his mad science anew. Even after all his apocalyptic shenanigans with the New Avengers, the collapsing Multiverse, and the Symbiotes, he ends up back in his own restored universe free to cause trouble again and with no heroes to get in his way.]]
* KnightTemplar: He wishes to solve all the problems of the Earth, no matter the cost.
* MaddenIntoMisanthropy: Initially, all this Reed wanted was to make the world a better place. Then all of his efforts to bring wonders and miracles of science to the world are stymied and hindered by the people trying to maintain the status quo or use his genius for their own ends. Now, he'll change the world/universe any way he can and to hell with morality or consequences.
* MadScientist: A relatively restrained one during his time in the Ultimate Universe, if only because of its physical laws. Once he gets to the regular reality, all bets are off. His first evil scheme in ''New Avengers'' is causing a plague in Paris that turns people into diamond-headed undead, that functions as a "necrophone" to summon a sorcerer from two omniverses ago. Why? Why not?
* TheMaker: He created a pocket universe, one that's positively utopian... then tries to use it to replace the real world.
* MurderIsTheBestSolution: A lot of his plans back in his home universe tend to start with "kill lots of people".
* MythologyGag: His development into The Maker - with his elongated helmet and setting himself up as the head of an isolated society evolving thousands of years past the rest of humanity - is exactly like an old Fantastic Four villain Harvey Jessup, who did the same thing in Reed's hometown.
* NeverRecycleYourSchemes: Usually, he plays this straight, but he's got a fondness for City that makes him try to recreate it after he winds up in the regular Marvel universe. Unfortunately for him, the nature of that universe means City doesn't ''[[LargeHam quite]]'' turn out the way he'd hoped.
* NiceJobFixingItVillain: Part of his schemes against Avengers Idea Mechanics helps cure Angela Del Toro of her Hand-induced brainwashing. Which was what A.I.M. had been counting on.
* OmnicidalManiac: During ''Time Runs Out'', he's aware of the collapsing multiverse, but makes no effort to investigate or warn anyone, and actively speeds the whole process up. At the very end, he decides to wipe out both the Ultimate and Regular Marvel Universe because... well, because, apparently.
* OtherMeAnnoysMe: His meeting with regular Reed Richards during ''Secret Wars'' has both of them annoyed by the other, Ultimate Reed finding his counterpart is far too focused on things that don't matter (read: his family and friends), and 616 Reed coldly retorting that unlike Ultimate Reed, he learned about how to care about things beyond himself. [[spoiler:By his reappearance in New Avengers, he's gotten over it, admiring 616 Reed's idealism, although in ''Venom'' Vol. 4 he's still annoyed by Spider-Man comparing him to the Earth-616 Reed]].
* PsychopathicManchild: After his descent into evil, Reed has become nothing more than a sociopathic, emotionally stunted shell of his former self, whose only real motive for his crimes besides scientific amusement [[AttentionWhore is to force the entirety of creation]] [[GodhoodSeeker to become obsequious to him and his exploits.]]
* ReedRichardsIsUseless: Deconstructed and played for angst. 1610-Reed was an idealistic boy who genuinely believed he could change the world for the better. Unfortunately, the governmental think-tank who funded his research alternated between forcing him to focus on projects that only benefited themselves or the military, and actively concealing everything he invented in order to not disrupt the status quo. This slowly but steadily breaks Reed's idealism, until finally he snaps and decides he's going to change the world, ''by force'', and that anyone who tries to stop him is an enemy to eliminate--which quickly leads to him seeking to just vent a lifetime's grievances against humanity.
* ResurrectedForAJob: Molecule Man brought him back to life to try and fight the evils of the First Firmament. Reed went more than a little off-script.
* RoguesGalleryTransplant: Originally a villain to ComicBook/UltimateFantasticFour and the general ComicBook/UltimateMarvel Universe. Since immigrating the mainstream Franchise/MarvelUniverse, he would become a major antagonist to the ''[[ComicBook/NewAvengers2015 A.I.M. Avengers]], and then ComicBook/{{Venom}} in Creator/DonnyCates' [[ComicBook/DonnyCatesVenom run on the character]].
* {{Sadist}}: His usual response to causing people emotional and physical pain is to grin and remark that their reactions are "interesting", such as when his codex-removal machine causes the people subjected to it agonizing pain.
* SelfMadeOrphan: The first people he killed when he went evil were his ''entire'' family. Not just his abusive father, but his genuinely loving and supportive mother and all his siblings, too.
* SmugSnake: He's extremely dangerous, he's more than once successfully pulled a case of TheBadGuyWins, and even the Thanos from universe 616 treats him with grudging respect. However, his arrogance frequently gets the better of him - he misjudges the very nature of the 616 universe on several occasions, and even after he gets around that, he completely messes up in ''[[ComicBook/TheUltimates2015 Ultimates Squared]]'' - he thinks he's solved the omniversal crisis, but has just made it that much worse. And in every case, he's very proud of his intelligence and won't let anyone forget it.
* TurnedAgainstTheirMasters: [[spoiler: Eventually, the computer of the City comes to the conclusion, that Richards's megalomaniac and warmongering attitude is obsolete, and only hinders the further development of the City. Or not, as it remains allied with him in secret.]]
* UnwittingPawn: In ''Ultimates Squared'', his attempts to save the multiverse just play right into the First Firmament's hands. When he's told he's screwed up, Reed is shocked and tries to deny it.
* VillainHasAPoint: Has a legitimate grief with the people who run things in the government not allowing him to release inventions that could help the world and heal the sick. Particularly when their reasons for doing so are either to suit their own ends or to try to protect the status quo and keep the world the way it is because it suits them. Doesn't justify what Reed's been doing though.
* WouldHurtAChild: His first victims included his own little siblings. In ''Venom'' #17 he tells Dylan Brock and Normie Osborn that he would loathe having the death of a child on his (non-existent) conscience; but when Sadie -- a girl possibly even younger than Dylan and Normie -- is separated from the Lasher symbiote, he happily tries to kill her while quipping that he couldn't care less about her age.

[[folder:Tropes about his time at the Ultimate Fantastic Four]]
* AbusiveParents: His father was, essentially, what happens when a stereotypical JerkJock grows up to have a son who's a nerd...
* AdaptationalAngstUpgrade: Unlike the mainstream Reed or most other alternate Reeds, this Reed dealt with an abusive father that helped morph him into the person he would become.
* BadassBookworm: His stretch powers were regarded as the suckiest of the four right up to the point where he decided to pitch in anyway. Cue Doctor Doom getting thrown into scenery, Annihilus getting shot in the mouth (with his own gun!), and Diablo getting his Supervillain Lair blown up.
* BizarreAlienBiology: Post-transforming, Reed's cells have been replaced with "pliable bacterial stacks," which are described as single cells which duplicate most of the larger functions of the human body. Essentially, he no longer has most of his organs or even a skeleton; his human shape is just an affectation for convenience/memory's sake. In addition to allowing his RubberMan powers to function at all, the change means that he no longer eats, excretes, breathes, ages or bleeds. To give a concrete example of how much this has changed him: shortly after his FaceHeelTurn, Ultimate Susan Storm tries to kill him by expanding a forcefield bubble inside his brain. Aside from momentarily inflating his head like a balloon, it does ''nothing'' to him, because his biology doesn't work that way anymore. If anything, it just ticks him off once he gets over the shock and realizes that Sue tried to kill him.
* BodyHorror: His transformation removed most, if not all, of his internal organs and his entire skeletal structure. He also enjoys enlarging his brain -- grotesquely distorting his head in the process.
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* SmugSnake: He's extremely dangerous, he's more than once successfully pulled a case of TheBadGuyWins, and even 616!Thanos treats him with grudging respect. However, his arrogance frequently gets the better of him - he misjudges the very nature of the 616 universe on several occasions, and even after he gets around that, he completely messes up in ''[[ComicBook/TheUltimates2015 Ultimates Squared]]'' - he thinks he's solved the omniversal crisis, but has just made it that much worse. And in every case, he's very proud of his intelligence and won't let anyone forget it.

* FreudianExcuse: Abused by his father, not respected by his peers, bullied in high school, and the world didn't change the way he wanted it to nor would anyone let him change it for the better. Not to mention his guilt over his role in the Ultimatum Event which killed millions in New York, Sue Storm's rejection of his marriage proposal, his teammates all quitting the Fantastic Four team, and finally his prodding to be a worldwide savior by Kang the Conqueror. [[SubvertedTrope Doesn't justify the stuff that he does]].

* EvilIsPetty: Though he'll hide it behind posturing, some of his acts are just him being a jerk who needs to show off to the world. He was already planning on betraying 616!Reed during ''Secret Wars'' anyway, but he mentions the tipping point was seeing him interact with a brainwashed / amnesiac Sue Storm and being disgusted by the emotional display.

* ImmortalityImmaturity: One of the advantages of his power is he doesn't age... unfortunately for everyone else, this means he's still the stone-cold psycho he was when he first became the Maker.

* BigBadEnsemble: With Carnage and Knull for the ''Venom'' comic book series.

* EvilIsPetty: Though he'll hide it behind posturing, some of his acts are just him being a jerk who needs to show off to the world. He was already planning on betraying 616!Reed during ''Secret Wars'' anyway, but he mentions the tipping point was seeing him interact with a brainwashed / amnesiac Sue Storm.

* SelfMadeOrphan: The first people he killed when he went evil were his ''entire'' family. Not just his abusive father, but his mother and all his siblings, too.

* {{Foil}}: To Peter Parker/Spider-Man. Both are genius-level men of science, both had a lot of emotional baggage, both had many supportive relationships, and both had superpowers. The major difference is that it eventually became too much for Reed and he lashed out against humanity, whereas Peter remained a hero. Nick Fury expected Spider-Man to become essentially what Reed became.

* MythologyGag: His development into The Maker - with his elongated helmet and setting himself up as the head of an isolated society evolving thousands of years past the rest humanity - is exactly like an old Fantastic Four villain Harvey Jessup, who did the same thing in Reed's hometown.

** ComicBook/UltimateEnemy

* AdaptationalAngstUpgrade: As a result of having an abusive dad, this Reed had more of a troubled childhood.

* FreudianExcuseIsNoExcuse: When Reed was a child, he was abused by his father, who had no interest or tolerance for Reed's love of science. He was not respected by his peers, bullied in high school, and wanted to change the world, but could not change it the way he wanted to because he felt no one would let him. He felt guilty over his role in the Ultimatum Event which killed millions in New York, Sue rejected his marriage proposal, his teammates all quit the Fantastic Four team, and finally he was prodded to be a worldwide savior by Kang the Conqueror. However, this does not justify his actions. He had a loving mother and two supporting sisters. He had a best friend in Ben, who protected him from bullies as a child and in high school. He was accepted into the Baxter Building, where his genius could be nurtured, a new father in Franklin Storm, and a new family in Sue, Johnny, and Ben. Yet when things fall apart he turns against his former love and friends and murders his whole family. This was best summed up by an alternate animal world version of Miles Morales.

* MythologyGag: His development into the maker - with his elongated helmet and setting himself up as the head of an isolated society evolving thousands of years past the rest humanity - is exactly like an old Fantastic Four villain Harvey Jessup, who did the same thing in Reed's hometown.

* SmugSnake: Vacillates between this and MagnificentBastard. He's extremely dangerous, he's more than once successfully pulled a case of TheBadGuyWins, and even 616!Thanos treats him with grudging respect. However, his arrogance frequently gets the better of him - he misjudges the very nature of the 616 universe on several occasions, and even after he gets around that, he completely messes up in ''[[ComicBook/TheUltimates2015 Ultimates Squared]]'' - he thinks he's solved the omniversal crisis, but has just made it that much worse. And in every case, he's very proud of his intelligence and won't let anyone forget it.

* MythologyGag: His development into the maker - with his elongated helmet and setting himself up as the head of an isolated society evolving thousands of years past humanity - is exactly like an old Fantastic Four villain Harvey Jessup, who did the same thing in Reed's hometown.

* PsychopathicManchild: After his descent into evil, Reed has become nothing more than a sociopathic, emotionally stunted shell of his former self, whose only real motive for his crimes besides scientific amusement [[AttentionWhore is to force the entirety of creation]] [[AGodAmI to become obsequious to him and his exploits.]]

* AdaptationalJerkass: He initially merely started off as a case of this, as while the classic Reed had his moments of jackassery, that's all they were. This Reed was even more of a jerk, even before he became a full-blown case of AdaptationalVillainy.

* {{Expy}}: While he started of course as a counter part of the original Reed Richards, he became one of [[Characters/{{Avengers Villains}} Kang The Conqueror]] and/or ComicBook/DoctorDoom.

* AbusiveParents: The classic Reed's father was Nathaniel was a flawed man, but was aware of his shortcoming, supported Reed, and his absence was due to events out of his control. This Reed's dad? [[AdaptationNameChange Gary]] was a JerkJock who hated that Reed was a genius and took every chance he could to belittle him.

* AbusiveParents: The classic Reed's father was Nathaniel was a flawed man, but was aware of his shortcmonig, supported Reed, and his absence was due to events out of his control. This Reed's dad? [[AdaptationNameChange Gary]] was a JerkJock who hated that Reed was a genius and took every chance he could to belittle him.

* AdaptationalJerkass: He initially merely started off as a case of this, as while the classic Reed had his moments of jackassery, that's all they were. This Reed was even more of the jerk, even before he became a full-blown case of AdaptationalVillainy.

* AbusiveParents: His father was, essentially, what happens when a stereotypical JerkJock grows up to have a son who's a nerd...
* AdaptationalAngstUpgrade: Unlike the mainstream Reed or most other alternate Reeds, this Reed dealt with an abusive father that helped morph him into the person he would become.

* BadassBookworm: His stretch powers were regarded as the suckiest of the four right up to the point where he decided to pitch in anyway. Cue Doctor Doom getting thrown into scenery, Annihilus getting shot in the mouth (with his own gun!), and Diablo getting his Supervillain Lair blown up.

* BizarreAlienBiology: Post-transforming, Reed's cells have been replaced with "pliable bacterial stacks," which are described as single cells which duplicate most of the larger functions of the human body. Essentially, he no longer has most of his organs or even a skeleton; his human shape is just an affectation for convenience/memory's sake. In addition to allowing his RubberMan powers to function at all, the change means that he no longer eats, excretes, breathes, ages or bleeds. To give a concrete example of how much this has changed him: shortly after his FaceHeelTurn, Ultimate Susan Storm tries to kill him by expanding a forcefield bubble inside his brain. Aside from momentarily inflating his head like a balloon, it does ''nothing'' to him, because his biology doesn't work that way anymore. If anything, it just ticks him off once he gets over the shock and realizes that Sue tried to kill him.
* BodyHorror: His transformation removed most, if not all, of his internal organs and his entire skeletal structure. He also enjoys enlarging his brain -- grotesquely distorting his head in the process.

* WouldHurtAChild: His first victims included his own little siblings. In ''Venom'' #17 he tells Dylan Brock and Normie Osborn that he would loathe having the death of a child on his (non-existent) conscience; but when Sadie -- a girl possibly even younger than Dylan and Normie -- is separated from the Lasher symbiote, he happily tries to kill her while quipping that he couldn't care less about her age.