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* BodyHorror: His transformation removed most, if not all, of his internal organs. He also enjoys enlarging his brain -- grotesquely distorting his head in the process.
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* BizarreAlienBiology: Post-transforming, Reed's cells have been replaced with "pliable bacterial stacks," which are described as single cells which duplicate most of the larger functions of the human body. Essentially, he no longer has most of his organs or even a skeleton; his human shape is just an affectation for convenience/memory's sake. In addition to allowing his RubberMan powers to function at all, the change means that he no longer eats, excretes, breathes, ages or bleeds. To give a concrete example of how much this has changed him: shortly after his FaceHeelTurn, Ultimate Susan Storm tries to kill him by expanding a forcefield bubble inside his brain. Aside from momentarily inflating his head like a balloon, it does ''nothing'' to him, because his biology doesn't work that way anymore. If anything, it just ticks him off once he gets over the shock and realizes that Sue tried to kill him.
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* FreudianExcuseIsNoExcuse: When Reed was a child, he was abused by his father, who had no interest or tolerance for Reed's love of science. He was not respected by his peers, bullied in high school, and wanted to change the world, but could not change it the way he wanted to because he felt no one would let him. He felt guilty over his role in the Ultimatum Event which killed millions in New York, Sue rejected his marriage proposal, his teammates all quit the Fantastic Four team, and finally he was prodded to be a worldwide savior by Kang the Conqueror. However, this does not justify his actions. He had a loving mother and two supporting sisters. He had a best friend in Ben, who protected him from bullies as a child and in high school. He was accepted into the Baxter Building, where his genius could be nurtured, a new father in Franklin Storm, and a new family in Sue, Johnny, and Ben. Yet when things fall apart he turns against his former love and friends and murders his whole family. This was best summed up by an alternate animal world version of Miles Morales.
-->'''Miles Morhames''': He committed genocide and tried to rewrite the rules of physics, economics, and society to make himself feel better and impress a girl.
-->'''Miles Morhames''': He committed genocide and tried to rewrite the rules of physics, economics, and society to make himself feel better and impress a girl.
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* SmugSnake: He's very proud of his intelligence and won't let anyone forget it.
* TurnedAgainstTheirMasters: [[spoiler: Eventually, the computer of the City comes to the conclusion, that Richards's megalomanic and warmonger attitude is obsolete, and only hinders the further development of the City. Or not, as it remains allied with him in secret.]]
* TurnedAgainstTheirMasters: [[spoiler: Eventually, the computer of the City comes to the conclusion, that Richards's megalomanic and warmonger attitude is obsolete, and only hinders the further development of the City. Or not, as it remains allied with him in secret.]]
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* SmugSnake: Vacillates between this and MagnificentBastard. He's extremely dangerous, he's more than once successfully pulled a case of TheBadGuyWins, and even 616!Thanos treats him with grudging respect. However, his arrogance frequently gets the better of him - he misjudges the very nature of the 616 universe on several occasions, and even after he gets around that, he completely messes up in ''[[ComicBook/TheUltimates2015 Ultimates Squared]]'' - he thinks he's solved the omniversal crisis, but has just made it that much worse. And in every case, he's very proud of his intelligence and won't let anyone forget it.
* TurnedAgainstTheirMasters: [[spoiler: Eventually, the computer of the City comes to the conclusion, that Richards'smegalomanic megalomaniac and warmonger warmongering attitude is obsolete, and only hinders the further development of the City. Or not, as it remains allied with him in secret.]]
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* WouldHurtAChild: His first victims included his own little siblings. In ''Venom'' #17 he tells Dylan Brock and Normie Osborn that he would loathe having the death of a child on his (non-existant) conscience; but when Sadie -- a girl possibly even younger than Dylan and Normie -- is separated from the Lasher symbiote, he happily tries to kill her while quipping that he couldn't care less about her age.
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* WouldHurtAChild: His first victims included his own little siblings. In ''Venom'' #17 he tells Dylan Brock and Normie Osborn that he would loathe having the death of a child on his (non-existant) (non-existent) conscience; but when Sadie -- a girl possibly even younger than Dylan and Normie -- is separated from the Lasher symbiote, he happily tries to kill her while quipping that he couldn't care less about her age.
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* ReedRichardsIsUseless: A dark take of the trope. After getting stopped and stalled from every scientific discovery that he ever made, Reed Richards just loses it and starts taking out every scientific hero or foundation who could possibly stop him.
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* ReedRichardsIsUseless: A dark take of the trope. After getting stopped Deconstructed and stalled from every scientific discovery that he ever made, Reed Richards just loses it and starts taking out every scientific hero or foundation played for angst. 1610-Reed was an idealistic boy who genuinely believed he could possibly change the world for the better. Unfortunately, the governmental think-tank who funded his research alternated between forcing him to focus on projects that only benefited themselves or the military, and actively concealing everything he invented in order to not disrupt the status quo. This slowly but steadily breaks Reed's idealism, until finally he snaps and decides he's going to change the world, ''by force'', and that anyone who tries to stop him.him is an enemy to eliminate--which quickly leads to him seeking to just vent a lifetime's grievances against humanity.
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* FightingAShadow: After Secret Wars Molecule Man puts a copy of him in ''every'' restored reality, which all share the same mind. Even if one is destroyed, another from a parallel universe can just replace him and continue his work.
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* InsufferableGenius: At least part of his villainy comes from his rampant inability to admit errors of calculations or judgment on his part.
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* VillainWithGoodPublicity: In [[spoiler:Earth-616]], The Maker rides off the reputation of his heroic counterpart to [[spoiler:win the trust of Venom and Spider-Man, who leave Dylan and Normie in The Maker's care.]]
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* VillainWithGoodPublicity: In [[spoiler:Earth-616]], The Maker rides off the reputation of his heroic counterpart to [[spoiler:win the trust of Venom and Spider-Man, who leave Dylan and Normie in The Maker's care.]]
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* BullyingADragon: In ''Venom'' Vol. 4 his offhand comment that he intends to exhume and desecrate Flash Thompson's corpse enrages the Venom symbiote, which goes berserk and overwhelms his shapeshifting powers with its own before stuffing him into a morgue locker.
* BullyingADragon: In ''Venom'' Vol. 4 his offhand comment that he intends to exhume and desecrate Flash Thompson's corpse enrages the Venom symbiote, which goes berserk and overwhelms his shapeshifting powers with its own before stuffing him into a morgue locker.
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* OtherMeAnnoysMe: His meeting with regular Reed Richards during ''Secret Wars'' has both of them annoyed by the other, Ultimate Reed finding his counterpart is far too focused on things that don't matter (read: his family and friends), and 616 Reed coldly retorting that unlike Ultimate Reed, he learned about how to care about things beyond himself. [[spoiler:By his reappearance in New Avengers, he's gotten over it, admiring 616 Reed's idealism.]]
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* OtherMeAnnoysMe: His meeting with regular Reed Richards during ''Secret Wars'' has both of them annoyed by the other, Ultimate Reed finding his counterpart is far too focused on things that don't matter (read: his family and friends), and 616 Reed coldly retorting that unlike Ultimate Reed, he learned about how to care about things beyond himself. [[spoiler:By his reappearance in New Avengers, he's gotten over it, admiring 616 Reed's idealism.]]idealism, although in ''Venom'' Vol. 4 he's still annoyed by Spider-Man comparing him to the Earth-616 Reed]].
* {{Sadist}}: His usual response to causing people emotional and physical pain is to grin and remark that their reactions are "interesting", such as when his codex-removal machine causes the people subjected to it agonizing pain.
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[[ComicBook/MisterFantastic Reed Richards]] was one of the original members of the ComicBook/UltimateFantasticFour, the ComicBook/FantasticFour of the ComicBook/UltimateMarvel universe. He made many inventions with his superior intellect, but the military always kept them classified, ensuring that ReedRichardsIsUseless. The FF break up after ''ComicBook/{{Ultimatum}}''. Reed started gathering objects of power and attacking those who could oppose him, and fell to another dimension. He returned with a scarred face, and started using a helmet. He created an utopian city in Europe, killing most of Berlin and the Asgardians in the process. ComicBook/TheUltimates defeated him, but before that he blew up Washington DC, starting [[DividedStatesOfAmerica a new American civil war]]. He broke out of prison and tried to use the Infinity Gauntlet to achieve his goals. He was defeated again, and then helped the heroes to defeat Galactus during the ''[[ComicBook/CataclysmTheUltimatesLastStand Cataclysm]]''. He joined Nick Fury in his attempts to rebuild S.H.I.E.L.D., but had his own agenda. He kept the incursions at bay, and joined the Cabal when they fell to their world. He escaped with them the destruction of the multiverse, and arrived on [[ComicBook/SecretWars2015 Battleworld]].
When the universe was restored, he arrived on the prime Marvel earth, thus being a CanonImmigrant from the Ultimate universe.
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[[ComicBook/MisterFantastic Reed Richards]] was one of the original members of the ComicBook/UltimateFantasticFour, the ComicBook/FantasticFour of the ComicBook/UltimateMarvel universe. He made many inventions universe.
Initially, Reed lived a life not too dissimilar from the regular Reed Richards, forming the Fantastic Four and falling in love withhis superior intellect, but the military always kept them classified, ensuring that ReedRichardsIsUseless. The FF break up after ''ComicBook/{{Ultimatum}}''. Reed started gathering objects Sue Storm. However, her rejection of power and attacking those who could oppose him, the dissolution of his team and fell being transported to another dimension. a different universe took its toll on him. He returned with a scarred face, scarred, more pragmatic and started using a helmet. He created an utopian city in Europe, killing most seemingly devoid of Berlin and humanity, taking on the Asgardians in role of the process. ComicBook/TheUltimates defeated him, but before that he blew up Washington DC, starting [[DividedStatesOfAmerica a new American civil war]]. He broke out of prison and tried to use Ultimate universe's BigBad.
With theInfinity Gauntlet to achieve his goals. He was defeated again, and then helped the heroes to defeat Galactus during the ''[[ComicBook/CataclysmTheUltimatesLastStand Cataclysm]]''. He joined Nick Fury in his attempts to rebuild S.H.I.E.L.D., but had his own agenda. He kept the incursions at bay, and joined the Cabal when they fell to their world. He escaped with them the Ultimate universe's destruction of the multiverse, imminent, he escaped aboard a life raft, and arrived on [[ComicBook/SecretWars2015 Battleworld]].
Battleworld]]. There, he met the Reed Richards of the main Marvel universe (Earth-616), who was wiser, kinder and more sentimental. Despising his alternate self, he tried to kill him, but would wind up literally sliced into pieces for his trouble.
When theuniverse multiverse was restored, he arrived on these pieces of him were spread throughout the prime multiverse. However, they all shared the same consciousness, giving him a multiversal presence. He would work throughout the multiverse, but primarily out of the main Marvel earth, thus being a CanonImmigrant from the Ultimate universe.
universe, continuing his pursuit of absolute science.
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When the universe was restored, he arrived on the prime Marvel earth, thus being a CanonImmigrant from the Ultimate universe. And he comes in slices.
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[[ComicBook/MisterFantastic Reed Richards]] was one of the original members of the ComicBook/UltimateFantasticFour, the ComicBook/FantasticFour of the ComicBook/UltimateMarvel universe. He made many inventions with his superior intellect, but the military always kept them classified, ensuring that ReedRichardsIsUseless. The FF break up after ''ComicBook/{{Ultimatum}}''. Reed started gathering objects of power and attacking those who could oppose him, and fell to another dimension. He returned with a scarred face, and started using a helmet. He created an utopian city in Europe, killing most of Berlin and the Asgardians in the process. ComicBook/TheUltimates defeated him, but before that he blew up Washington DC, starting [[DividedStatesOfAmerica a new American civil war]]. He broke out of prison and tried to use the Infinity Gauntlet to achieve his goals. He was defeated again, and then helped the heroes to defeat Galactus during the ''[[ComicBook/CataclysmTheUltimatesLastStand Cataclysm]]''. He joined Nick Fury in his attempts to rebuild S.H.I.E.L.D., but had his own agenda. He kept the incursions at bay, and joined the Cabal when they fell to their world. he escaped with them the destruction of the multiverse, and arrived to [[ComicBook/SecretWars2015 Battleworld]].
When the universe was restored, he arrived at the prime Marvel earth, thus being a CanonImmigrant from the Ultimate universe.
[[ComicBook/MisterFantastic Reed Richards]] was one of the original members of the ComicBook/UltimateFantasticFour, the ComicBook/FantasticFour of the ComicBook/UltimateMarvel universe. He made many inventions with his superior intellect, but the military always kept them classified, ensuring that ReedRichardsIsUseless. The FF break up after ''ComicBook/{{Ultimatum}}''. Reed started gathering objects of power and attacking those who could oppose him, and fell to another dimension. He returned with a scarred face, and started using a helmet. He created an utopian city in Europe, killing most of Berlin and the Asgardians in the process. ComicBook/TheUltimates defeated him, but before that he blew up Washington DC, starting [[DividedStatesOfAmerica a new American civil war]]. He broke out of prison and tried to use the Infinity Gauntlet to achieve his goals. He was defeated again, and then helped the heroes to defeat Galactus during the ''[[ComicBook/CataclysmTheUltimatesLastStand Cataclysm]]''. He joined Nick Fury in his attempts to rebuild S.H.I.E.L.D., but had his own agenda. He kept the incursions at bay, and joined the Cabal when they fell to their world. he escaped with them the destruction of the multiverse, and arrived to [[ComicBook/SecretWars2015 Battleworld]].
When the universe was restored, he arrived at the prime Marvel earth, thus being a CanonImmigrant from the Ultimate universe.
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[[ComicBook/MisterFantastic Reed Richards]] was one of the original members of the ComicBook/UltimateFantasticFour, the ComicBook/FantasticFour of the ComicBook/UltimateMarvel universe. He made many inventions with his superior intellect, but the military always kept them classified, ensuring that ReedRichardsIsUseless. The FF break up after ''ComicBook/{{Ultimatum}}''. Reed started gathering objects of power and attacking those who could oppose him, and fell to another dimension. He returned with a scarred face, and started using a helmet. He created an utopian city in Europe, killing most of Berlin and the Asgardians in the process. ComicBook/TheUltimates defeated him, but before that he blew up Washington DC, starting [[DividedStatesOfAmerica a new American civil war]]. He broke out of prison and tried to use the Infinity Gauntlet to achieve his goals. He was defeated again, and then helped the heroes to defeat Galactus during the ''[[ComicBook/CataclysmTheUltimatesLastStand Cataclysm]]''. He joined Nick Fury in his attempts to rebuild S.H.I.E.L.D., but had his own agenda. He kept the incursions at bay, and joined the Cabal when they fell to their world.he He escaped with them the destruction of the multiverse, and arrived to on [[ComicBook/SecretWars2015 Battleworld]].
When the universe was restored, he arrivedat on the prime Marvel earth, thus being a CanonImmigrant from the Ultimate universe.
universe. And he comes in slices.
[[ComicBook/MisterFantastic Reed Richards]] was one of the original members of the ComicBook/UltimateFantasticFour, the ComicBook/FantasticFour of the ComicBook/UltimateMarvel universe. He made many inventions with his superior intellect, but the military always kept them classified, ensuring that ReedRichardsIsUseless. The FF break up after ''ComicBook/{{Ultimatum}}''. Reed started gathering objects of power and attacking those who could oppose him, and fell to another dimension. He returned with a scarred face, and started using a helmet. He created an utopian city in Europe, killing most of Berlin and the Asgardians in the process. ComicBook/TheUltimates defeated him, but before that he blew up Washington DC, starting [[DividedStatesOfAmerica a new American civil war]]. He broke out of prison and tried to use the Infinity Gauntlet to achieve his goals. He was defeated again, and then helped the heroes to defeat Galactus during the ''[[ComicBook/CataclysmTheUltimatesLastStand Cataclysm]]''. He joined Nick Fury in his attempts to rebuild S.H.I.E.L.D., but had his own agenda. He kept the incursions at bay, and joined the Cabal when they fell to their world.
When the universe was restored, he arrived
* ComicBookDeath: At the end of ''Secret Wars'', Molecule Man reduces him to slices. [[spoiler:He's soon seen up and around again in the restored universe, with the reveal Owen brought him back in ''every'' new reality.]]
* DidntSeeThatComing: A consistent problem he has, sometimes because of things he legitimately couldn't know about, other times because he's an arrogant jerk and cannot consider the possibility he's wrong. Roberto [=daCosta=] uses it to outwit him ''repeatedly''.
* DidntSeeThatComing: A consistent problem he has, sometimes because of things he legitimately couldn't know about, other times because he's an arrogant jerk and cannot consider the possibility he's wrong. Roberto [=daCosta=] uses it to outwit him ''repeatedly''.
* EvilIsPetty: Though he'll hide it behind posturing, some of his acts are just him being a jerk who needs to show off to the world. He was already planning on betraying 616!Reed during ''Secret Wars'' anyway, but he mentions the tipping point was seeing him interact with a brainwashed / amnesiac Sue Storm.
* FromASingleCell: He can regenerate. Ultimate Sue even speculated there wasn't much point trying to kill him, because he'd just get better.
* ItGetsEasier: During ''Time Runs Out'', he actually laments that he's gotten too good at destroying alternate Earths.
* NeverRecycleYourSchemes: Usually, he plays this straight, but he's got a fondness for City that makes him try to recreate it after he winds up in the regular Marvel universe. Unfortunately for him, the nature of that universe means City doesn't ''[[LargeHam quite]]'' turn out the way he'd hoped.
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* RoguesGalleryTransplant: Originally a villain to ComicBook/UltimateFantasticFour and the general ComicBook/UltimateMarvel Universe. Since immigrating the mainstream Franchise/MarvelUniverse, he would become a major antagonist to ComicBook/{{Venom}} in Creator/DonnyCates' [[ComicBook/DonnyCatesVenom run on the character]].
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* RoguesGalleryTransplant: Originally a villain to ComicBook/UltimateFantasticFour and the general ComicBook/UltimateMarvel Universe. Since immigrating the mainstream Franchise/MarvelUniverse, he would become a major antagonist to the ''[[ComicBook/NewAvengers2015 A.I.M. Avengers]], and then ComicBook/{{Venom}} in Creator/DonnyCates' [[ComicBook/DonnyCatesVenom run on the character]].
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* TurnedAgainstTheirMasters: [[spoiler: Eventually, the computer of the City comes to the conclusion, that Richards's megalomanic and warmonger attitude is obsolete, and only hinders the further development of the City. Or not, as it remains allied with him in secret.]]
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* TurnedAgainstTheirMasters: [[spoiler: Eventually, the computer of the City comes to the conclusion, that Richards's megalomanic and warmonger attitude is obsolete, and only hinders the further development of the City. Or not, as it remains allied with him in secret.]]]]
* UnwittingPawn: In ''Ultimates Squared'', his attempts to save the multiverse just play right into the First Firmament's hands. When he's told he's screwed up, Reed is shocked and tries to deny it.
* WouldHurtAChild: His first victims included his own little siblings.
* UnwittingPawn: In ''Ultimates Squared'', his attempts to save the multiverse just play right into the First Firmament's hands. When he's told he's screwed up, Reed is shocked and tries to deny it.
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* Omnicidal ¿Maniac: During ''Time Runs Out'', he's aware of the collapsing multiverse, but makes no effort to investigate or warn anyone, and actively speeds the whole process up. At the very end, he decides to wipe out both the Ultimate and Regular Marvel Universe because... well, because, apparently.
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* BadassBookworm: His stretch powers were regarded as the suckiest of the four right up to the point where he decided to pitch in anyway. Cue Doctor Doom getting thrown into scenery, Annihilus getting shot in the mouth (with his own gun!), and Diablo getting his Supervillain Lair blown up.
* BadBoss: As the head of W.H.I.S.P.E.R., he takes his minions asking for help as volunteering to be subject to experimentation. And if they do well, he "rewards" them by removing their organs (without anaesthetic) and turning them into sycophantic insect-people.
* BodyHorror: His transformation removed most, if not all, of his internal organs.
* BadBoss: As the head of W.H.I.S.P.E.R., he takes his minions asking for help as volunteering to be subject to experimentation. And if they do well, he "rewards" them by removing their organs (without anaesthetic) and turning them into sycophantic insect-people.
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* {{Expy}}: While he started of course as a counter part of the original Reed Richards, he became one of [[Characters/{{Avengers Villains}} Kang The Conqueror]] and/or Doctor Doom.
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* FreudianExcuse: Abused by his father, not respected by his peers, bullied in high school, and the world didn't change the way he wanted it to nor would anyone let him change it for the better. Not to mention his guilt over his role in the Ultimatum Event which killed millions in New York, Sue Storm's rejection of his marriage proposal, his teammates all quitting the Fantastic Four team, and finally his prodding to be a worldwide savior by Kang the Conqueror. [[SubvertedTrope Doesn't justify the stuff that he does]].
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* GenreBlind: Once in the main Marvel universe. He's convinced he's got a bead on its nature, but fails to realize the entire universe is much more bizarre and fantastical than he's used to.
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* JerkWithAHeartOfGold: He meant well... sort of, but there are moments where he's incredibly arrogant and bad-tempered. Becomes a full on JerkWithAHeartOfJerk when he turns evil because he felt being good was holding him back.
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* EvilCounterpart: To the mainstream Reed Richards. Whereas 616 Reed will always pick his family over science in the end, Ultimate Reed does not, and has discarded his humanity and his family. When the two meet, 616 Reed is shocked that any version of him could turn out like Ultimate Reed has. While the Council of Reeds were at times incredibly pragmatic, they still served the greater good in the end and devoted their lives to helping people across the multiverse; this Reed doesn't and is every bit the malevolent Mad Scientist the mainstream Reed feared he could become.
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* EvilCounterpart: To the mainstream Reed Richards. Whereas 616 Reed will always pick his family over science in the end, Ultimate Reed does not, and has discarded his humanity and his family. When the two meet, 616 Reed is shocked that any version of him could turn out like Ultimate Reed has. While the Council of Reeds were at times incredibly pragmatic, they still served the greater good in the end and devoted their lives to helping people across the multiverse; this Reed doesn't and is every bit the malevolent Mad Scientist MadScientist the mainstream Reed feared he could become.
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* MadScientist: A relatively restrained one during his time in the Ultimate Universe, if only because of its physical laws. Once he gets to the regular reality, all bets are off. His first evil scheme in ''New Avengers'' is causing a plague in Paris that turns people into diamond-headed undead, that functions as a "necrophone" to summon a sorcerer from two omniverses ago. Why? Why not?
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* OtherMeAnnoysMe: His meeting with regular Reed Richards during ''Secret Wars'' has both of them annoyed by the other, Ultimate Reed finding his counterpart is far too focused on things that don't matter (read: his family and friends), and 616 Reed coldly retorting that unlike Ultimate Reed, he learned about how to care about things beyond himself. [[spoiler:By his reappearance in New Avengers, he's gotten over it, admiring 616 Reed's idealism.]]
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* AdaptationalAngstUpgrade: Unlike the mainstream Reed or most other alternate Reeds, this Reed dealt with an abusive father that helped morph him into the person he would become.
* AdaptationalVillainy: After ''ComicBook/{{Ultimatum}}'', he turns against everyone, and essentially becomes the new Doctor Doom. He's even the page image for [[AdaptationalVillainy/UltimateMarvel subpage on the subject]] for Ultimate Marvel.
* AdaptationalVillainy: After ''ComicBook/{{Ultimatum}}'', he turns against everyone, and essentially becomes the new Doctor Doom. He's even the page image for [[AdaptationalVillainy/UltimateMarvel subpage on the subject]] for Ultimate Marvel.
* EvilCounterpart: To the mainstream Reed Richards. Whereas 616 Reed will always pick his family over science in the end, Ultimate Reed does not, and has discarded his humanity and his family. When the two meet, 616 Reed is shocked that any version of him could turn out like Ultimate Reed has. While the Council of Reeds were at times incredibly pragmatic, they still served the greater good in the end and devoted their lives to helping people across the multiverse; this Reed doesn't and is every bit the malevolent Mad Scientist the mainstream Reed feared he could become.
* EvilWearsBlack: On turning evil, he discards his Fantastic Four jumpsuit for a black shirt with red TronLines. After becoming The Maker, he goes for a black jumpsuit instead.
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* FromNobodyToNightmare: He started out as a bullied teenager mocked for his intelligence, became a superhero, but after growing out of favor with the way the world is run decided to take over the world, and now he's basically the Ultimate version of DoctorDoom.Doom and someone who even 616 Thanos treats with grudging respect.
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* FromNobodyToNightmare: He started out as a bullied teenager mocked for his intelligence, became a superhero, but after growing out of favor with the way the world is run decided to take over the world, and now he's basically the Ultimate version of Doctor
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Reed Richards was one of the original members of the ComicBook/UltimateFantasticFour, the ComicBook/FantasticFour of the ComicBook/UltimateMarvel universe. He made many inventions with his superior intellect, but the military always kept them classified, ensuring that ReedRichardsIsUseless. The FF break up after ''ComicBook/{{Ultimatum}}''. Reed started gathering objects of power and attacking those who could oppose him, and fell to another dimension. He returned with a scarred face, and started using a helmet. He created an utopian city in Europe, killing most of Berlin and the Asgardians in the process. ComicBook/TheUltimates defeated him, but before that he blew up Washington DC, starting [[DividedStatesOfAmerica a new American civil war]]. He broke out of prison and tried to use the Infinity Gauntlet to achieve his goals. He was defeated again, and then helped the heroes to defeat Galactus during the ''[[ComicBook/CataclysmTheUltimatesLastStand Cataclysm]]''. He joined Nick Fury in his attempts to rebuild S.H.I.E.L.D., but had his own agenda. He kept the incursions at bay, and joined the Cabal when they fell to their world. he escaped with them the destruction of the multiverse, and arrived to [[ComicBook/SecretWars2015 Battleworld]].
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[[ComicBook/MisterFantastic Reed Richards Richards]] was one of the original members of the ComicBook/UltimateFantasticFour, the ComicBook/FantasticFour of the ComicBook/UltimateMarvel universe. He made many inventions with his superior intellect, but the military always kept them classified, ensuring that ReedRichardsIsUseless. The FF break up after ''ComicBook/{{Ultimatum}}''. Reed started gathering objects of power and attacking those who could oppose him, and fell to another dimension. He returned with a scarred face, and started using a helmet. He created an utopian city in Europe, killing most of Berlin and the Asgardians in the process. ComicBook/TheUltimates defeated him, but before that he blew up Washington DC, starting [[DividedStatesOfAmerica a new American civil war]]. He broke out of prison and tried to use the Infinity Gauntlet to achieve his goals. He was defeated again, and then helped the heroes to defeat Galactus during the ''[[ComicBook/CataclysmTheUltimatesLastStand Cataclysm]]''. He joined Nick Fury in his attempts to rebuild S.H.I.E.L.D., but had his own agenda. He kept the incursions at bay, and joined the Cabal when they fell to their world. he escaped with them the destruction of the multiverse, and arrived to [[ComicBook/SecretWars2015 Battleworld]].
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Reed Richards was one of the original members of the ComicBook/UltimateFantasticFour, the ComicBook/FantasticFour of the ComicBook/UltimateMarvel universe. He made many inventions with his superior intellect, but the military always kept them classified, ensuring that ReedRichardsIsUseless. The FF break up after ''ComicBook/{{Ultimatum}}''. Reed started gathering objects of power and attacking those who could oppose him, and fell to another dimension. He returned with a scarred face, and started using a helmet. He created an utopian city in Europe, killing most of Berlin and the Asgardians in the process. ComicBook/TheUltimates defeated him, but before that he blew up Washington DC, starting [[DividedStatesOfAmerica a new American civil war]]. He broke out of prison and tried to use the Infinity Gauntlet to achieve his goals. He was defeated again, and then helped the heroes to defeat Galactus during the ''[[ComicBook/CataclysmTheUltimatesLastStand Cataclysm]]''. He joined Nick Fury in his attempts to rebuild S.H.I.E.L.D., but had his own agenda. He kept the incursions at bay, and joined the Cabal when they fell to their world. he escaped with them the destruction of the multiverse, and arrived to [[ComicBook/SecretWars2015 Battleworld]].
When the universe was restored, he arrived at the prime Marvel earth, thus being a CanonImmigrant from the Ultimate universe.
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[[index]]
[[AC:Notable Comics]]
* ComicBook/UltimateMarvel
** ComicBook/UltimateFantasticFour
** ComicBook/UltimateEnemy
** ComicBook/TheUltimates
** ComicBook/CataclysmTheUltimatesLastStand
* ComicBook/SecretWars2015
* Franchise/MarvelUniverse
** ComicBook/NewAvengers2015
** ComicBook/InfamousIronMan
** ComicBook/TheUltimates2015
** ComicBook/DonnyCatesVenom
*** ComicBook/AbsoluteCarnage
!!Tropes
* AbusiveParents: His father was, essentially, what happens when a stereotypical JerkJock grows up to have a son who's a nerd...
* AlwaysSomeoneBetter: [[spoiler: If his rant to the new president is any indication, he considers Tony Stark this.]]
* {{Expy}}: While he started of course as a counter part of the original Reed Richards, he became one of [[Characters/{{Avengers Villains}} Kang The Conqueror]] and/or Doctor Doom.
* FaceHeelTurn: Reed ironically ends up being very much like Doctor Doom.
* GoodScarsEvilScars: Received from Johnny Storm, after he attempted to kill Susan Storm. For unknown reasons, it shrank over time, going from massive disfigurement to just a mild scratch across one eye. Justified by TheReveal that he's basically a HumanoidAbomination.
* HeelFaceTurn: Saw the error of his ways after Cataclysm after witnessing the alternate life he would have had if he stayed with Sue and remained a good person. Or not, as ''[[ComicBook/JonathanHickmansAvengers New Avengers]]'' revealed he was faking it, and just continued on with what he was doing anyway.
* HelmetsAreHardlyHeroic: Has a conical helmet covering his face, which handily conceals his identity.
* ItsAllAboutMe: He views himself as the sole savior of the universe and feels everyone who is against him is wrong.
* {{Jerkass}}: He had problems with this even before his FaceHeelTurn, but it kicks into overdrive once he turns.
* KnightTemplar: He wishes to solve all the problems of the Earth, no matter the cost.
* ReedRichardsIsUseless: A dark take of the trope. After getting stopped and stalled from every scientific discovery that he ever made, Reed Richards just loses it and starts taking out every scientific hero or foundation who could possibly stop him.
* SelfMadeOrphan: The first people he killed when he went evil were his family.
* SmugSnake: He's very proud of his intelligence and won't let anyone forget it.
* TurnedAgainstTheirMasters: [[spoiler: Eventually, the computer of the City comes to the conclusion, that Richards's megalomanic and warmonger attitude is obsolete, and only hinders the further development of the City. Or not, as it remains allied with him in secret.]]
When the universe was restored, he arrived at the prime Marvel earth, thus being a CanonImmigrant from the Ultimate universe.
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[[index]]
[[AC:Notable Comics]]
* ComicBook/UltimateMarvel
** ComicBook/UltimateFantasticFour
** ComicBook/UltimateEnemy
** ComicBook/TheUltimates
** ComicBook/CataclysmTheUltimatesLastStand
* ComicBook/SecretWars2015
* Franchise/MarvelUniverse
** ComicBook/NewAvengers2015
** ComicBook/InfamousIronMan
** ComicBook/TheUltimates2015
** ComicBook/DonnyCatesVenom
*** ComicBook/AbsoluteCarnage
!!Tropes
* AbusiveParents: His father was, essentially, what happens when a stereotypical JerkJock grows up to have a son who's a nerd...
* AlwaysSomeoneBetter: [[spoiler: If his rant to the new president is any indication, he considers Tony Stark this.]]
* {{Expy}}: While he started of course as a counter part of the original Reed Richards, he became one of [[Characters/{{Avengers Villains}} Kang The Conqueror]] and/or Doctor Doom.
* FaceHeelTurn: Reed ironically ends up being very much like Doctor Doom.
* GoodScarsEvilScars: Received from Johnny Storm, after he attempted to kill Susan Storm. For unknown reasons, it shrank over time, going from massive disfigurement to just a mild scratch across one eye. Justified by TheReveal that he's basically a HumanoidAbomination.
* HeelFaceTurn: Saw the error of his ways after Cataclysm after witnessing the alternate life he would have had if he stayed with Sue and remained a good person. Or not, as ''[[ComicBook/JonathanHickmansAvengers New Avengers]]'' revealed he was faking it, and just continued on with what he was doing anyway.
* HelmetsAreHardlyHeroic: Has a conical helmet covering his face, which handily conceals his identity.
* ItsAllAboutMe: He views himself as the sole savior of the universe and feels everyone who is against him is wrong.
* {{Jerkass}}: He had problems with this even before his FaceHeelTurn, but it kicks into overdrive once he turns.
* KnightTemplar: He wishes to solve all the problems of the Earth, no matter the cost.
* ReedRichardsIsUseless: A dark take of the trope. After getting stopped and stalled from every scientific discovery that he ever made, Reed Richards just loses it and starts taking out every scientific hero or foundation who could possibly stop him.
* SelfMadeOrphan: The first people he killed when he went evil were his family.
* SmugSnake: He's very proud of his intelligence and won't let anyone forget it.
* TurnedAgainstTheirMasters: [[spoiler: Eventually, the computer of the City comes to the conclusion, that Richards's megalomanic and warmonger attitude is obsolete, and only hinders the further development of the City. Or not, as it remains allied with him in secret.]]
