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A New ''Illuminati'' ongoing will begin as part of the ComicBook/AllNEwAllDifferentMarvel initiative, but this time will feature villains uniting to protect other villains.

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A New ''Illuminati'' ongoing will begin as part of the ComicBook/AllNEwAllDifferentMarvel ''ComicBook/AllNewAllDifferentMarvel'' initiative, but this time will feature villains uniting to protect other villains.

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The group is later reformed and are the stars of the comic book series Comicbook/NewAvengers volume 3.

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The group is later reformed restarted and are the stars protagonists of the comic book third ''Comicbook/NewAvengers'' series. The series Comicbook/NewAvengers volume 3.was the lead-up to the ''ComicBook/SecretWars2015'' event and ended with issue 33.

A New ''Illuminati'' ongoing will begin as part of the ComicBook/AllNEwAllDifferentMarvel initiative, but this time will feature villains uniting to protect other villains.

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* NotSoOmniscientCouncilOfBickering: For their high and loud intentions, the Illuminati do not have a good record of successes. Their threat to the Skrulls was not just useless, it gave gave them the means to start the SecretInvasion. They collected the infinity gems but could not banish them from existence, and the Hood got most of them a short time later. They tried to talk the Beyonder to leave the universe, and he ignored them. They advised Noh-Varr to be a hero, and he laughed at them (he became a hero later, but for other reasons). And before ''Civil War'' and ''Secret Invasion'', they simply met to decide that there was nothing they could do about the crisis.

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* NotSoOmniscientCouncilOfBickering: For their high and loud intentions, the Illuminati do not have a good record of successes. Their threat to the Skrulls was not just useless, it gave gave them the means to start the SecretInvasion. They collected the infinity gems but could not banish them from existence, and the Hood got most of them a short time later. They tried to talk the Beyonder to leave the universe, and he ignored them. They advised Noh-Varr to be a hero, and he laughed at them (he became a hero later, but for other reasons). And before ''Civil War'' and ''Secret Invasion'', they simply met to decide that there was nothing they could do about the crisis.
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* HitAndRunTactics: They tried to do this to the Skrulls, but failed. They appeared in their planet, told them to stay away from Earth, Black Bolt destroyed their city when they refused, and they teleported back to their ship, to return home. But the skrulls destroyed their ship and capured them.

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* HitAndRunTactics: They tried to do this to the Skrulls, but failed. They appeared in their planet, told them to stay away from Earth, Black Bolt destroyed their city when they refused, and they teleported back to their ship, to return home. But the skrulls Skrulls destroyed their ship and capured captured them.
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* TheDogBitesBack: As Hulk was destroying everything again, the Illuminati organized a trap for him, sending him to a distant planet. Xavier was not present, and Namor [[IWarnedYou warned them]]: that was [[ComicBook/WorldWarHulk a massively bad idea]]
* ETGaveUsWiFi: Reed Richards and Iron Man are making a fortune from the technologies they get from the stolen Skrull ship. Perhaps a small break from [[ReedRichardsIsUseless their usual uselessness]]

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* TheDogBitesBack: As Hulk was destroying everything again, the Illuminati organized a trap for him, sending him to a distant planet. Xavier was not present, and Namor [[IWarnedYou warned them]]: that was [[ComicBook/WorldWarHulk a massively bad idea]]
idea]].
* ETGaveUsWiFi: Reed Richards and Iron Man are making a fortune from the technologies they get from the stolen Skrull ship. Perhaps a small break from [[ReedRichardsIsUseless their usual uselessness]]uselessness]].



* FailureIsTheOnlyOption: Most of the time. If it is about a past story, the Illuminati can not change its outcome. If it is a modern crisis crossover, it has to be played by all the characters involved, it can't be ruined by a swift covert attack of a secret team.

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* FailureIsTheOnlyOption: Most of the time. If it is about a past story, the Illuminati can not cannot change its outcome. If it is a modern crisis crossover, it has to be played by all the characters involved, it can't be ruined by a swift covert attack of a secret team.
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The group is later reformed and are the stars the comic book series Comicbook/NewAvengers volume 3.

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The group is later reformed and are the stars of the comic book series Comicbook/NewAvengers volume 3.
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* EvilCounterpart: The Cabal developed after Secret Invasion is this to the Illuminati. Led by NormanOsborn, the group consists of DoctorDoom, Loki, The Hood, Emma Frost, and Namor who try to secretly manipulate the superhero political atmosphere for their own benefits.

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* EvilCounterpart: The Cabal developed after Secret Invasion is this to the Illuminati. Led by NormanOsborn, ComicBook/NormanOsborn, the group consists of DoctorDoom, SelfDemonstrating/DoctorDoom, Loki, The Hood, Emma Frost, and Namor who try to secretly manipulate the superhero political atmosphere for their own benefits.



* NotSoOmniscientCouncilOfBickering: For their high and loud intentions, the Illuminati do not have a good record of successes. Their threat to the Skrulls was not just useless, it gave gave them the means to start the SecretInvasion. They collected the infinity gems but could not banish them from existence, and the Hood got most of them a short time later. They tried to talk the Beyonder to leave the universe, and he ignored them. They advised Noh-Varr to be a hero, and he laughed at them (he became a hero later, but for other reasons). And before Civil War and Secret Invasions, they simply met to decide that there was nothing they could do about the crisis.
* OriginsEpisode: In the crossover with Civil War. The group appeared first in the New Avengers, without any kind of explanation for the reader.
* ProperlyParanoid: Iron Man had the corpse of a Skrull that was pretending to be Elektra, and who was completely undetectable before being killed and reverting to her real form. He thinks that this Skrull is the peak of the iceberg of [[SecretInvasion a whole alien infiltration at all levels]]. Namor and Xavier did not agree: the skrull may be just a single skrull and nothing more. And then [[spoiler:Black Bolt revealed to be a Skrull, and tried to kill them]]

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* NotSoOmniscientCouncilOfBickering: For their high and loud intentions, the Illuminati do not have a good record of successes. Their threat to the Skrulls was not just useless, it gave gave them the means to start the SecretInvasion. They collected the infinity gems but could not banish them from existence, and the Hood got most of them a short time later. They tried to talk the Beyonder to leave the universe, and he ignored them. They advised Noh-Varr to be a hero, and he laughed at them (he became a hero later, but for other reasons). And before Civil War ''Civil War'' and Secret Invasions, ''Secret Invasion'', they simply met to decide that there was nothing they could do about the crisis.
* OriginsEpisode: In the crossover with Civil War.''Civil War''. The group appeared first in the New Avengers, without any kind of explanation for the reader.
* ProperlyParanoid: Iron Man had the corpse of a Skrull that was pretending to be Elektra, and who was completely undetectable before being killed and reverting to her real form. He thinks that this Skrull is the peak of the iceberg of [[SecretInvasion [[ComicBook/SecretInvasion a whole alien infiltration at all levels]]. Namor and Xavier did not agree: the skrull may be just a single skrull and nothing more. And then [[spoiler:Black Bolt revealed to be a Skrull, and tried to kill them]]



** Black Panther to the others, when they created the group
** Namor to the other members (except Xavier, who was not present) when they decided to exile Hulk
** The Watcher to Reed Richards, for reuniting the Infinity Gaunlet
** The others to Namor, when the Beyonder revealed by accident that he still desires to conquer the surface world. ("Only sometimes. Not today")

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** Black Panther to the others, when they created the group
group.
** Namor to the other members (except Xavier, who was not present) when they decided to exile Hulk
Hulk. While not present, when confronted on the subject, Professor Xavier said he was for a ''temporary'' exile to allow Banner to cure himself, but ''not'' the permanent one Iron Man, Mister Fantastic, Black Bolt, and Doctor Strange opted to go with.
** The Watcher to Reed Richards, for reuniting the Infinity Gaunlet
Gaunlet.
** The others to Namor, when the Beyonder revealed by accident that he still desires to conquer the surface world. ("Only sometimes. Not today") today").
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* EvilCounterpart: The Cabal developed after Secret Invasion is this to the Illuminati. Led by NormanOsborn, the group consists of DoctorDoom, Loki, The Hood, Emma Frost, and Namor who try to secretly manipulate the superhero political atmosphere for their own benefits.
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* Handwave: Eternity had ruled that the Infinity Gems may not be used all at once. It was mentioned and ignored.

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* Handwave: {{Handwave}}: Eternity had ruled that the Infinity Gems may not be used all at once. It was mentioned and ignored.
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* OriginsEpisode: In the crossover with Civil War. The group appeared first in the New Avengers, without any kind of explanation for the reader.
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The group is later reformed and are the stars the comic book series Comicbook/NewAvengers volume 3.
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** Black Phanter to the others, when they created the group

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** Black Phanter Panther to the others, when they created the group
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Many years ago, Earth was almost destroyed during ComicBook/TheKreeSkrullWar. Several heroes met in Wakanda to talk about this: Black Phanter, Iron Man, Reed Richards, Charles Xavier, Black Bolt, Namor and Dr. Strange.[[note]]This meeting takes place in a modern retcon, not in the 1970s[[/note]] They realized that they all knew details about those alien races, and if they had compared notes they would have been able to prevent the war. With the exception of Black Phanter, they created a secret society, to discuss this and other grave threats and silently deal with them.

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Many years ago, Earth was almost destroyed during ComicBook/TheKreeSkrullWar. Several heroes met in Wakanda to talk about this: Black Phanter, Panther, Iron Man, Reed Richards, Charles Xavier, Black Bolt, Namor and Dr. Strange.[[note]]This meeting takes place in a modern retcon, not in the 1970s[[/note]] They realized that they all knew details about those alien races, and if they had compared notes they would have been able to prevent the war. With the exception of Black Phanter, Panther, they created a secret society, to discuss this and other grave threats and silently deal with them.
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* Handwave: Eternity had ruled that the Infinity Gems may not be used all at once. It was mentioned and ignored.
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* TheComicallySerious: Namor began to harass Iron Man for not informing the group about the reunion of the Avengers... which had happened the day before. So, Iron Man asked "Does someone know how to say 'It happened yesterday' in Atlantean?". Reed Richards provided the translation... [[ComicallyMissingThePoint completely missing the point]].
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* ProperlyParanoid: Iron Man had the corpse of a Skrull that was pretending to be Elektra, and who was completely undetectable before being killed and reverting to her real form. He thinks that this Skrull is the peak of the iceberg of [[SecretInvasion a whole alien infiltration at all levels]]. Namor and Xavier did not agree: the skrull may be just a single skrull and nothing more. And then [[spoiler:Black Bolt revealed to be a Skrull, and tried to kill them]]
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* ETGaveUsWiFi: Reed Richards and Iron Man are making a fortune from the technologies they get from the stolen Skrull ship. Perhaps a small break from [[ReedRichardsIsUseless their usual uselessness]]
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* WhatTheHellHero:
** Black Phanter to the others, when they created the group
** Namor to the other members (except Xavier, who was not present) when they decided to exile Hulk
** The Watcher to Reed Richards, for reuniting the Infinity Gaunlet
** The others to Namor, when the Beyonder revealed by accident that he still desires to conquer the surface world. ("Only sometimes. Not today")
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* SupermanStaysOutOfGotham: More blatant than ever: the Thing and the Human Torch stay out of the adventure ''that takes place in the other room''. But it is not a FF comic, so they stay watching TV [[ApatheticCitizens while the building seems about to explode]].
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* HitAndRunTactics: They tried to do this to the Skrulls, but failed. They appeared in their planet, told them to stay away from Earth, Black Bolt destroyed their city when they refused, and they teleported back to their ship, to return home. But the skrulls destroyed their ship and capured them.
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* TheDogBitesBack: As Hulk was destroying everything again, the Illuminati organized a trap for him, sending him to a distant planet. Xavier was not present, and Namor [[IWarnedYou warned them]]: that was [[ComicBook/WorldWarHulk a massively bad idea]]
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* RealityWarpingIsNotAToy: Reed Richards tried to get all the Infinity Gems to try to banish them from existence, to prevent anyone else from abusing them.
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Many years ago, Earth was almost destroyed during ComicBook/TheKreeSkrullWar. Several heroes met in Wakanda to talk about this: Black Phanter, Iron Man, Reed Richards, Charles Xavier, Black Bolt, Namor and Dr. Strange. They realized that they all knew details about those alien races, and if they had compared notes they would have been able to prevent the war. With the exception of Black Phanter, they created a secret society, to discuss this and other grave threats and silently deal with them.

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Many years ago, Earth was almost destroyed during ComicBook/TheKreeSkrullWar. Several heroes met in Wakanda to talk about this: Black Phanter, Iron Man, Reed Richards, Charles Xavier, Black Bolt, Namor and Dr. Strange. [[note]]This meeting takes place in a modern retcon, not in the 1970s[[/note]] They realized that they all knew details about those alien races, and if they had compared notes they would have been able to prevent the war. With the exception of Black Phanter, they created a secret society, to discuss this and other grave threats and silently deal with them.
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* NonindicativeName: The group never refers to itself, in-story, as the "illuminati". They do not refer to themselves by any group name.
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* FailureIsTheOnlyOption: Most of the time. If it is about a past story, the Illuminati can not change its outcome. If it is a modern crisis crossover, it has to be played by all the characters involved, it can't be ruined by a swift covert attack of a secret team.
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* CensorShadow: The Skrulls captured Iron Man and took his armor. In his cell, he was nude until he could get a pair of pants.
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* {{Retcon}}: In-universe, the Illuminati were created after the Kree-Skrull war, of the 1970s. In the real world, they were introduced in the Comicbook/NewAvengers, and their origin detailed before Comicbook/CivilWar

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* {{Retcon}}: In-universe, the Illuminati were created after the Kree-Skrull war, of the 1970s. In the real world, they were introduced in the Comicbook/NewAvengers, and their origin detailed before Comicbook/CivilWarComicbook/CivilWar
* TheWorfEffect: The Illuminati met before Civil War and Secret Invasion, and could not find a way to prevent what was about to happen. The only purpose of those stories was to set up how much complicated things were.
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* NotSoOmniscientCouncilOfBickering: For their high and loud intentions, the Illuminati do not have a good record of successes. Their threat to the Skrulls was not just useless, it gave gave them the means to start the SecretInvasion. They collected the infinity gems but could not banish them from existence, and the Hood got most of them a short time later. They tried to talk the Beyonder to leave the universe, and he ignored them. They advised Noh-Varr to be a hero, and he laughed at them (he became a hero later, but for other reasons). And before Civil War and Secret Invasions, they simply met to decide that there was nothing they could do about the crisis.
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'''The Illuminati''' is a secret group of superheroes of Marvel Comics. But, other than the name and that they work as a secret society, it has no relation with [[TheIlluminati the real Illuminati]] (or the allegedly real, or whatever).

Many years ago, Earth was almost destroyed during ComicBook/TheKreeSkrullWar. Several heroes met in Wakanda to talk about this: Black Phanter, Iron Man, Reed Richards, Charles Xavier, Black Bolt, Namor and Dr. Strange. They realized that they all knew details about those alien races, and if they had compared notes they would have been able to prevent the war. With the exception of Black Phanter, they created a secret society, to discuss this and other grave threats and silently deal with them.

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* {{Retcon}}: In-universe, the Illuminati were created after the Kree-Skrull war, of the 1970s. In the real world, they were introduced in the Comicbook/NewAvengers, and their origin detailed before Comicbook/CivilWar

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