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* AmbiguousSituation: Rascal's origins are left unclear, as it's never shown where exactly Dylan got the symbiote from in the comics. The "previously on" summary for ''Venom'' (Vol. 5) #16 refers to Rascal as a piece of Bedlam lopped off during Dylan-as-Codex's fight with him,[[note]]Which makes no sense since Rascal was given to Normie ''before'' Dylan's fight with Bedlam.[[/note]] while Alex Paknadel has stated in interviews that Rascal is the newly-spawned offspring of the Carnage symbiote. In ''Red Goblin'' #5, Cletus Kasady identifies Rascal as a "symbiote cocktail" partially comprised of the Carnage symbiote, but which other symbiote strains were added into the mix is unknown.
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* AmbiguousSituation: Rascal's origins are left unclear, as it's never shown where exactly Dylan got the symbiote from in the comics. The "previously on" summary for ''Venom'' (Vol. 5) #16 refers to Rascal as a piece of Bedlam lopped off during Dylan-as-Codex's fight with him,[[note]]Which makes no sense since Rascal was given to Normie ''before'' Dylan's fight with Bedlam.[[/note]] while Alex Paknadel has stated in interviews that Rascal is the newly-spawned offspring of the Carnage symbiote. In ''Red Goblin'' #5, Cletus Kasady identifies Rascal as a "symbiote cocktail" partially comprised of the Carnage symbiote, but which other symbiote strains were added into the mix is unknown. Then Venom #25 reaffirms that Rascal is indeed an offshoot of Bedlam, [[spoiler:that was given to Kang by a time-displaced Eddie Brock in exchange for a working time machine.]]
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** When fighting the Gold Goblin in issue the Red Goblin sprouts another pair of arms becoming MultiArmedAndDangerous much like Normie's appearance as Venom in ''ComicBook/SpiderGirl'' and his later appearance in ''ComicBook/TheAmazingSpiderManRenewYourVows''.
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** When fighting the Gold Goblin in issue 9 the Red Goblin sprouts another pair of arms becoming MultiArmedAndDangerous much like Normie's appearance as Venom in ''ComicBook/SpiderGirl'' and his later appearance in ''ComicBook/TheAmazingSpiderManRenewYourVows''.
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** When fighting the Gold Goblin in issue the Red Goblin sprouts another pair of arms becoming MultiArmedAndDangerous much like Normie's appearance as Venom in ''ComicBook/SpiderGirl'' and his later appearance in ''ComicBook/TheAmazingSpiderManRenewYourVows''.
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* MirrorCharacter: Normie and the Rascal symbiote function as mirrors to each other since they are both young and inexperienced yet hold immense power. They are both emotional and depressive yet handle their feelings in vastly different ways: Normie hides his feelings and avoids confronting them, while Rascal is very vocal about it's feelings and takes direct action to resolve them. This difference in handling feelings is what causes a lot of conflict between them. To really hammer the comparison home the human form Rascal takes in Normie's mind is nearly identical to Normie but with his natural hairstyle.
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* ProtagonistJourneyToVillain: Normie starts out the series trying his best to be a hero and use his symbiote for good, but starts to become increasingly violent and rage filled as the story progressed. Not helped by the fact that the Rascal symbiote gets corrupted by Cletus Kassidy half way through the run. This ultimately result in them [[spoiler: killing Phil Urich and beating the Gold Goblin unconscious.]]
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* BlueAndOrangeMorality: By virtue of being an infantile symbiote that bonded to a burgeoning EnfantTerrible like Normie, Rascal has gradually developed an incredibly warped sense of morality that ruthlessly prioritizes Normie's happiness [[TheSociopath above all else.]] [[spoiler:Rascal even goes as far as to [[DesecratingTheDead desecrate the grave of Harry Osborn]] because from its point of view, Normie being sad over the death of his father means that his father's corpse ''[[InsaneTrollLogic must be destroyed]]'' [[InsaneTrollLogic so Normie can be happy again.]]]]
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* EvilCostumeSwitch: Initially Normie's design as Red Goblin didn't completely resemble Norman's Red Goblin design, [[spoiler:but after he decides to embrace violence his design changes to be identical to Norman's but larger and more monstrous.]]
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* ScarilyCompetentTracker: A notable ability Normie has with his symbiote is to locate people either by codex or [[SuperSenses smell]]. He uses this to his advantage in issue 8 by deliberately giving Miles the wrong location where Tim is so he could go there by himself.
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* AxCrazy: Normie initially blames his violent tendencies on Rascal, but over the course of the series accepts that ''he's'' the violent one, not Rascal.
* BackFromTheDead: Phil Urich, the supervillain known as the Goblin King, was killed by Norman Osborn in 2018's ''ComicBook/GoDownSwinging'' Spider-Man arc. The first issue reveals that the regenerative goblin formula in his veins wouldn't let him stay dead. Unfortunately, [[CameBackWrong it couldn't fully heal him]], either.
* BigBadWannabe: The Goblin King Phil Urich tries very hard to be a master manipulator like Norman, trying to oust Candra and steal the Red Goblin’s symbiote, [[spoiler:but all of his plans backfire and he’s ends up dying by the Red Goblin’s hands again.]]
* BackFromTheDead: Phil Urich, the supervillain known as the Goblin King, was killed by Norman Osborn in 2018's ''ComicBook/GoDownSwinging'' Spider-Man arc. The first issue reveals that the regenerative goblin formula in his veins wouldn't let him stay dead. Unfortunately, [[CameBackWrong it couldn't fully heal him]], either.
* BigBadWannabe: The Goblin King Phil Urich tries very hard to be a master manipulator like Norman, trying to oust Candra and steal the Red Goblin’s symbiote, [[spoiler:but all of his plans backfire and he’s ends up dying by the Red Goblin’s hands again.]]
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* AxCrazy: Normie initially blames his violent tendencies on Rascal, but over the course of the series accepts that ''he's'' the violent one, not Rascal. \n Unfortunately, Rascal absorbing some of Cletus Kasady's Extrembiote and getting mind bombed during ''ComicBook/CarnageReigns'' doesn't help matters either, as Rascal becomes increasingly feral.
* BackFromTheDead: Phil Urich, the supervillain known as the Goblin King, was killed by Norman Osborn in 2018's ''ComicBook/GoDownSwinging'' Spider-Man arc. The first issue reveals that the regenerativegoblin Goblin formula in his veins wouldn't let him stay dead. Unfortunately, [[CameBackWrong it couldn't fully heal him]], either.
* BigBadWannabe: The Goblin King Phil Urich tries very hard to be a master manipulator like Norman, trying to oust Candra and steal the Red Goblin’s symbiote, [[spoiler:but all of his plans backfire andhe’s he ends up dying by the Red Goblin’s hands again.]]
* BackFromTheDead: Phil Urich, the supervillain known as the Goblin King, was killed by Norman Osborn in 2018's ''ComicBook/GoDownSwinging'' Spider-Man arc. The first issue reveals that the regenerative
* BigBadWannabe: The Goblin King Phil Urich tries very hard to be a master manipulator like Norman, trying to oust Candra and steal the Red Goblin’s symbiote, [[spoiler:but all of his plans backfire and
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* TroublingUnchildlikeBehavior: Normie spends most of the series avoiding falling into this, [[ComicBook/GoDownSwinging again,]] despite his LovecraftianSuperpower and DarkAndTroubledPast, he ultimate caves into his more troubling behaviors by [[spoiler:ruthlessly slaughtering a room full of people.]]
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* TroublingUnchildlikeBehavior: Normie spends most of the series avoiding trying to avoid falling into this, [[ComicBook/GoDownSwinging again,]] despite his LovecraftianSuperpower and DarkAndTroubledPast, he ultimate caves into his more troubling behaviors by [[spoiler:ruthlessly slaughtering a room full of people.]]
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* TroublingUnchildlikeBehavior: Normie spends most of the series avoiding falling into this, [[ComicBook/GoDownSwinging again,]] despite his LovecraftianSuperpowers and DarkAndTroubledPast, he ultimate caves into his more troubling behaviors by [[spoiler:ruthlessly slaughtering a room full of people.]]
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* TroublingUnchildlikeBehavior: Normie spends most of the series avoiding falling into this, [[ComicBook/GoDownSwinging again,]] despite his LovecraftianSuperpowers LovecraftianSuperpower and DarkAndTroubledPast, he ultimate caves into his more troubling behaviors by [[spoiler:ruthlessly slaughtering a room full of people.]]
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* BigBadWannabe: The Goblin King Phil Urich tries very hard to be a master manipulator like Norman, trying to oust Candra and steal the Red Goblin’s symbiote, [[spoiler:but all of his plans backfire and he’s ends up dying by the Red Goblin’s hands again.]]
* BullyingTheDragon: What Normie’s conflict with the Goblin Nation and Phil Urich ultimately boils down to. Normie is desperately trying to hold himself back from maiming the other goblins that antagonize him, rarely ever being able to actually pose a threat to him due to the difference in power.
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* ForegoneConclusion: We know that in the future, Normie as Red Goblin will fight along side Dylan Brock against the Kings in Black in ''ComicBook/Venom2021'', so no matter what happens in this series he will keep the Rascal symbiote in the end.
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* ForegoneConclusion: We know that in the future, Normie as Red Goblin will fight along side Dylan Brock against the Kings in Black in ''ComicBook/Venom2021'', so no matter what happens in this series he will keep the Rascal symbiote in the end.
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* TroublingUnchildlikeBehavior: Normie spends most of the series avoiding falling into this, [[ComicBook/GoDownSwinging again,]] despite his LovecraftianSuperpowers and DarkAndTroubledPast, he ultimate caves into his more troubling behaviors by [[spoiler:ruthlessly slaughtering a room full of people.]]
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* MyDeathIsJustTheBeginning: Candra pulls this on Phil [[spoiler:by in her dying moments bringing Tim Anders to the base where Phil was hiding to lure out the Red Goblin to get revenge on Phil.]]
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* MyDeathIsJustTheBeginning: Candra pulls this on Phil [[spoiler:by in her dying moments bringing Tim Anders to the base where Phil was hiding to lure out the Red Goblin to get revenge on Phil.him.]]
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* AxCrazy: Normie initially blames his violent tendencies on Rascal, but over the course of the series accepts that **he's** the violent one, not Rascal.
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* AxCrazy: Normie initially blames his violent tendencies on Rascal, but over the course of the series accepts that **he's** ''he's'' the violent one, not Rascal.
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* AxCrazy: Normie initially blames his violent tendencies on Rascal, but over the course of the series accepts that **he's** the violent one, not Rascal.
* FluffyTheTerrible: Phil Urich makes fun of Normie for naming his [[EldritchAbomination symbiote]] "Rascal" in issue 8.
-->'''Phil:''' "Rascal"? That's what you named a Prince of the Void?
-->'''Phil:''' "Rascal"? That's what you named a Prince of the Void?
* GlowingEyesOfDoom: Normie gains these in a PartialTransformation during his RoaringRampageOfRevenge.
* JumpingOffTheSlipperySlope: After spending a majority of the series contemplating his own morality, in issue 8 [[spoiler:Normie officially decides to give up and embrace his AxCrazy tendencies and slaughters a room full of Goblin Nation goons and Phil Urich.]]
-->'''Tim:''' What's this about, man? You look...
-->'''Normie:''' Tired, Tim. That's all.
-->'''Normie:''' [[spoiler:I'm tired of pretending to be something I'm not.]]
-->'''Tim:''' What's this about, man? You look...
-->'''Normie:''' Tired, Tim. That's all.
-->'''Normie:''' [[spoiler:I'm tired of pretending to be something I'm not.]]
* MyDeathIsJustTheBeginning: Candra pulls this on Phil [[spoiler:by in her dying moments bringing Tim Anders to the base where Phil was hiding to lure out the Red Goblin to get revenge on Phil.]]
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* ParentalNeglect: Normie's mom Liz is rarely present in his life, busy with constant business trips. He is usually left in the care of Norman, who isn't much better.
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* ParentalNeglect: Normie's mom Liz is rarely present in his life, busy with constant business trips. He is usually left in the care of Norman, who isn't much better. It get's to the point where in issue 8 neither of Normie's guardians are even in the country when he goes missing.
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* RoaringRampageOfRevenge: After the Goblin Nation repeatedly kidnaps his loved ones, Normie reaches his RageBreakingPoint and goes on a rampage, however it is also an excuse for him to unleash his pent up anger.
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* TailSlap: Red Goblin's preferred method of attacking when enraged is to use his tail to either slap or stab people.
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* SpikesOfVillainy: Whenever the Red Goblin HulksOut he gains spikes on his shoulders, and becomes much more AxCrazy.
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* SpikesOfVillainy: Whenever the Red Goblin HulksOut [[HulkingOut hulks out]] he gains spikes on his shoulders, and becomes much more AxCrazy.
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* BigBrotherMentor: After meeting in ''ComicBook/CarnageReigns'' Miles Morales begins looking out for Normie whenever the two meet. In issue #7 Miles helps break Normie out of his RageBreakingPoint induced rampage, and promises to help him find his kidnapped friend.
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** In issue #7 Phil's old support group for former super heroes featured in ''ComicBook/Runaways'' is referenced.
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** In issue #7 Phil's old support group for former super heroes featured in ''ComicBook/Runaways'' ''ComicBook/{{Runaways}}'' is referenced.
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** In issue #7 Phil's old support group for former super heroes featured in ''ComicBook/Runaways'' is referenced.
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* SpikesOfVillainy: Whenever the Red Goblin HulksOut he gains spikes on his shoulders, and becomes much more AxCrazy.
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** This isn’t the first time a version of Normie Osborn has been a heroic symbiote user who didn’t get to pick his own code name. His AlternateUniverse version in ''ComicBook/SpiderGirl'' did that as well.
** In ''Red Goblin'' Normie is a FanBoy of Franchise/{{Gundam}} and HumongousMecha. In the AlternateUniverse story ''ComicBook/TheAmazingSpiderManRenewYourVows'', that version of Normie pilots one.
** This isn’t the first time a version of Normie Osborn has been a heroic symbiote user who didn’t get to pick his own code name. His AlternateUniverse version in ''ComicBook/SpiderGirl'' did that as well.
** In ''Red Goblin'' Normie is a FanBoy of Franchise/{{Gundam}} and HumongousMecha. In the AlternateUniverse story ''ComicBook/TheAmazingSpiderManRenewYourVows'', that version of Normie pilots one.
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* MythologyGag:
** This isn’t the first time Normie Osborn has been a [[ComicBook/SpiderGirl heroic symbiote user]] that didn’t pick his code name.
** Normie is a FanBoy of Franchise/{{Gundam}} and HumongousMecha in this series, in ''ComicBook/TheAmazingSpiderManRenewYourVows'' he pilots one.
** This isn’t the first time Normie Osborn has been a [[ComicBook/SpiderGirl heroic symbiote user]] that didn’t pick his code name.
** Normie is a FanBoy of Franchise/{{Gundam}} and HumongousMecha in this series, in ''ComicBook/TheAmazingSpiderManRenewYourVows'' he pilots one.
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* DissonantSerenity: Whenever Normie and Rascal go on a berserk rampage, Normie’s internal monologue is always eerily calm. While he violently tore through the entire Goblin Nation, he mused about joining The Avengers and what his hero name should be.
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* MistakenIdentity: In issue #2 Normie is mistaken as being both Carnage and Spider-Man over the course of a few pages, which he lampshades.
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* MistakenIdentity: MistakenIdentity:
** In issue #2 Normie is mistaken as being both Carnage and Spider-Man over the course of a few pages, which he lampshades.
** In issue #2 Normie is mistaken as being both Carnage and Spider-Man over the course of a few pages, which he lampshades.
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** Phil Urich mistakenly believes that Tim Ander’s is the new Red Goblin, since Normie was wearing Tim’s jacket while fighting Phil. This causes Tim to get kidnapped in an attempt to steal the Red Goblin’s symbiote.
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* UriahGambit: A variation by the end of issue #6 (with some FrameUp mixed in). [[spoiler: Recognizing Candra's popularity and his own tenuous standing in the Goblin Nation, Phil Urich sets his new Goblin Knight on the 'Kidnap Normie Osborn' plan -- except Phil never had any intention of taking Normie alive. The ''real'' plan is that once Candra's team has their hostage, Crossbones will be sent in to hit their fallback point and kill everyone. Thus, the threat to Urich's political power is removed, Phil gets to hurt Norman Osborn where it hurts with the loss of his oldest grandson, and everyone will believe it was a hostage situation gone wrong instead of ThePurge.]]
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* UriahGambit: A variation by the end of issue #6 (with some FrameUp mixed in). [[spoiler: Recognizing Candra's popularity and his own tenuous standing in the Goblin Nation, Phil Urich sets his new Goblin Knight on the 'Kidnap Normie Osborn' Tim Anders' plan -- except Phil never had any intention of taking Normie Tim alive. The ''real'' plan is that once Candra's team has their hostage, Crossbones will be sent in to hit their fallback point and kill everyone. Thus, the threat to Urich's political power is removed, Phil gets another chance to hurt Norman Osborn where it hurts with the loss of lure out Red Goblin and steal his oldest grandson, symbiote, and everyone will believe it was a hostage situation gone wrong instead of ThePurge.]]
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Renew Your Vows is in fact a different Spider-man continuity. It doesn’t take place in the main universe.
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* MythologyGag: This isn’t the first time Normie Osborn has been a [[ComicBook/SpiderGirl heroic symbiote user]] that didn’t pick his code name.
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* MythologyGag: MythologyGag:
** This isn’t the first time Normie Osborn has been a [[ComicBook/SpiderGirl heroic symbiote user]] that didn’t pick his codename.name.
** Normie is a FanBoy of Franchise/{{Gundam}} and HumongousMecha in this series, in ''ComicBook/TheAmazingSpiderManRenewYourVows'' he pilots one.
** This isn’t the first time Normie Osborn has been a [[ComicBook/SpiderGirl heroic symbiote user]] that didn’t pick his code
** Normie is a FanBoy of Franchise/{{Gundam}} and HumongousMecha in this series, in ''ComicBook/TheAmazingSpiderManRenewYourVows'' he pilots one.
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* CurbStompBattle: Once Normie gives in to the Rascal symbiote, he effortlessly decimates Phil Urich and his Goblin Nation army, and would have killed them all if Norman hadn't snapped him out of it.
** Happens again in issue #6 when he’s up against the new Goblin Knight and her goons, they were unable to do any damage to him because he [[RageBreakingPoint went berserk]], the only reason she survived is because in a moment of clarity Normie gave the Goblin Knight a chance to run away.
** Happens again in issue #6 when he’s up against the new Goblin Knight and her goons, they were unable to do any damage to him because he [[RageBreakingPoint went berserk]], the only reason she survived is because in a moment of clarity Normie gave the Goblin Knight a chance to run away.
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* CurbStompBattle: CurbStompBattle:
** Once Normie gives in to the Rascal symbiote, he effortlessly decimates Phil Urich and his Goblin Nation army, and would have killed them all if Norman hadn't snapped him out of it.
**Happens again in In issue #6 #6, when he’s Normie’s up against the new Goblin Knight and her goons, they were are unable to do any damage to him because he [[RageBreakingPoint went goes berserk]], the only reason she survived survives is because because, in a moment of clarity clarity, Normie gave the Goblin Knight a chance to run away.
** Once Normie gives in to the Rascal symbiote, he effortlessly decimates Phil Urich and his Goblin Nation army, and would have killed them all if Norman hadn't snapped him out of it.
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* LegacyCharacter: Subverted, as Normie never actually calls himself the Red Goblin, and didn't set out to be the successor to the original for [[TraumaButton justified reasons.]] Despite this, everyone else calls him Red Goblin due to being visually similar.
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** Subverted, as (so far) Normie never actually calls himself the Red Goblin, and didn't set out to be the successor to the original for [[TraumaButton justified reasons.]] Despite this, everyone else calls him Red Goblin due to being visually similar.
** Subverted, as (so far) Normie never actually calls himself the Red Goblin, and didn't set out to be the successor to the original for [[TraumaButton justified reasons.]] Despite this, everyone else calls him Red Goblin due to being visually similar.
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** This isn’t the first time Normie Osborn has been a [[ComicBook/SpiderGirl heroic symbiote user]] that didn’t pick his code name.
** Normie is a FanBoy of Franchise/{{Gundam}} and HumongousMecha in this series, in ''ComicBook/TheAmazingSpiderManRenewYourVows'' he pilots one.
** This isn’t the first time Normie Osborn has been a [[ComicBook/SpiderGirl heroic symbiote user]] that didn’t pick his code name.
** Normie is a FanBoy of Franchise/{{Gundam}} and HumongousMecha in this series, in ''ComicBook/TheAmazingSpiderManRenewYourVows'' he pilots one.
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* MythologyGag:
**MythologyGag: This isn’t the first time Normie Osborn has been a [[ComicBook/SpiderGirl heroic symbiote user]] that didn’t pick his code name.
** Normie is a FanBoy of Franchise/{{Gundam}} and HumongousMecha in this series, in ''ComicBook/TheAmazingSpiderManRenewYourVows'' he pilots one.name.
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** Normie is a FanBoy of Franchise/{{Gundam}} and HumongousMecha in this series, in ''ComicBook/TheAmazingSpiderManRenewYourVows'' he pilots one.
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* UriahGambit: A variation by the end of issue #6 (with some FrameUp mixed in). [[spoiler: Recognizing Candra's popularity and his own tenuous standing in the Goblin Nation, Phil Urich sets his new Goblin Knight on the 'Kidnap Normie Osborn' plan -- except Phil never had any intention of taking Normie alive. The ''real'' plan is that once Candra's team has their hostage, Crossbones will be sent in to hit their fallback point and kill everyone. Thus, the threat to Urich's political power is removed, Phil gets to hurt Norman Osborn where it hurts with the loss of his oldest grandson, and everyone will believe it was a hostage situation gone wrong instead of ThePurge.]]
