Follow TV Tropes

Following

History ComicBook / ForTheManWhoHasEverything

Go To

OR

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** Zig-zagged in the comic, where Mongul also assumes that Supermans fantasy involves him ruling Earth, but his second guess is that he's back in "whatever blissful backwater" he was raised in. He's wrong in this case, but it's a perfectly valid assumption considering Supermans love for the Kents and Smallville.

to:

** Zig-zagged in the comic, where Mongul also assumes guesses that Supermans Superman's fantasy involves is him ruling Earth, but his second guess is that he's going back in to "whatever blissful aboriginal backwater" he was raised in. He's wrong in this case, but it's a perfectly valid assumption considering Supermans love for the Kents and Smallville.

Added: 313

Changed: 114

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


** Zig-zagged in the comic, where Mongul also assumes that Supermans fantasy involves him ruling Earth, but his second guess is that he's back in "whatever blissful backwater" he was raised in. He's wrong in this case, but it's a perfectly valid assumption considering Supermans love for the Kents and Smallville.



-->'''Batman:''' It was so strange... I was married to Kathy Kane and we had a teenage daughter...

to:

-->'''Batman:''' It was so strange... I was married to Kathy Kane (the original Batwoman) and we had a teenage daughter...



* StrawConservative: In the comic, Jor-El becomes one of these after his predictions of Krypton's fate don't come true.

to:

* StrawConservative: In the comic, Jor-El becomes one of these after his predictions of Krypton's fate don't come true. It's all but stated that the loss of his wife Lara is what really catapulted him to this.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* NoHoldsBarredBeatdown: Superman deals one to Mongul in a fit of rage. Even Mongul, who during the Pre-Crisis era was usually protrayed as being slightly stronger than the Man of Steel, was afraid that he was going to kill him.

to:

* NoHoldsBarredBeatdown: Superman deals one to Mongul in a fit of rage. Even Mongul, who during the Pre-Crisis era was usually consistently protrayed as being slightly stronger than the Man of Steel, was afraid that he was going to kill him.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* NoHoldsBarredBeatdown: Superman deals one to Mongul in a fit of rage. Even Mongul, who during the Pre-Crisis era was usually protrayed as slightly stronger than the Man of Steel, was afraid that he was going to kill him.

to:

* NoHoldsBarredBeatdown: Superman deals one to Mongul in a fit of rage. Even Mongul, who during the Pre-Crisis era was usually protrayed as being slightly stronger than the Man of Steel, was afraid that he was going to kill him.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* NoHoldsBarredBeatdown: Superman deals one to Mongul in a fit of rage. Even Mongul was afraid that he was going to kill him.

to:

* NoHoldsBarredBeatdown: Superman deals one to Mongul in a fit of rage. Even Mongul Mongul, who during the Pre-Crisis era was usually protrayed as slightly stronger than the Man of Steel, was afraid that he was going to kill him.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* FromNobodyToNightmare: A downplayed case, but before this one-shot, Mongul was merely an ArcVillain; this story along with ''[[ComicBook/TheDeathOfSuperman Reign of the Supermen]]'' catapulted him to one of Superman's select [[{{ArchEnemy}} arch-enemies]] who could believeably stand toe-to-toe with him.

to:

* FromNobodyToNightmare: A downplayed case, but before this one-shot, Mongul was merely an ArcVillain; this story along with ''[[ComicBook/TheDeathOfSuperman Reign of the Supermen]]'' catapulted him to one of Superman's select [[{{ArchEnemy}} arch-enemies]] who could believeably stand toe-to-toe with him.him using nothing but his monstrous strength.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* EvilCannotComprehendGood: In both versions, it's implied at the end that Mongul is perfectly content with the fantasy of bloody conquest the Black Mercy is giving him. Whereas Superman is able to break free because, being a hero, he was able to comprehend ''something wrong'' with the fantasy he was given. In both versions, Mongul speculates that Superman is living out a fantasy of conquest.

to:

* EvilCannotComprehendGood: In both versions, it's implied at the end that Mongul is perfectly content with the fantasy of bloody conquest the Black Mercy is giving him. Whereas Superman is able to break free because, being a hero, he was able to comprehend ''something wrong'' with the fantasy he was given. In both versions, the animated version, Mongul speculates even goes as far as to speculate that Superman is living out a fantasy of conquest.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* EvilCannotComprehendGood: In both versions, it's implied at the end that Mongul is perfectly content with the fantasy of bloody conquest the Black Mercy is giving him. Whereas Superman is able to break free because, being a hero, he was able to comprehend ''something wrong'' with the fantasy he was given. In the TV version, Mongul speculates that Superman is living out a fantasy of conquest.

to:

* EvilCannotComprehendGood: In both versions, it's implied at the end that Mongul is perfectly content with the fantasy of bloody conquest the Black Mercy is giving him. Whereas Superman is able to break free because, being a hero, he was able to comprehend ''something wrong'' with the fantasy he was given. In the TV version, both versions, Mongul speculates that Superman is living out a fantasy of conquest.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


The story works around the idea of TheFinalTemptation: Superman's mind is trapped in an illusion [[HappilyEverAfter of him living a happy life]] on an intact [[DoomedHometown Krypton]]. In the illusion, he's married to a former actress and has a large, loving family. However, Krypton is shown to have changed since the time it would have been destroyed, turning from the [[CrystalSpiresAndTogas idyllic representations]] in the {{Canon}} to [[TheEighties a dystopia teetering on social collapse]]. Amongst other things, [[Comicbook/{{Supergirl}} Kara]] is in the hospital after being assaulted by a anti-PhantomZone protester. Further compounding the problem is Kal-El's estrangement from his father, [[IgnoredExpert Jor-El]]; while the latter was often portrayed as a heroic visionary in UsefulNotes/{{the Silver Age|of Comic Books}}, this Jor-El is a bitter shell who turned to [[StrawCharacter radical reactionary politics]] after [[CryingWolf wrongly predicting]] Krypton's self-destruction (his wife [[MissingMom dying]] of cancer might have something to do with it, too).

to:

The story works around the idea of TheFinalTemptation: Superman's mind is trapped in an illusion [[HappilyEverAfter of him living a happy life]] on an intact [[DoomedHometown Krypton]]. In the illusion, he's married to a former actress and has a large, loving family. However, Krypton is shown to have changed since the time it would have been destroyed, turning from the [[CrystalSpiresAndTogas idyllic representations]] in the {{Canon}} to [[TheEighties a dystopia teetering on social collapse]]. Amongst other things, [[Comicbook/{{Supergirl}} Kara]] is in the hospital after being assaulted by a anti-PhantomZone protester. Further compounding the problem is Kal-El's estrangement from his father, [[IgnoredExpert Jor-El]]; while the latter was often portrayed as a heroic visionary in UsefulNotes/{{the Silver Age|of Comic Books}}, this Jor-El is a bitter shell who turned to [[StrawCharacter radical reactionary politics]] after [[CryingWolf wrongly predicting]] Krypton's self-destruction (his wife [[MissingMom dying]] of cancer [[SoapOperaDisease "wasting sickness"]] might have something to do with it, too).
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* FromNobodyToNightmare: A downplayed case, but before this one-shot, Mongul was merely an ArcVillain; this story along with ''ComicBook/ReignOfTheSupermen'' catapulted him to one of Superman's select [[{{ArchEnemy}} arch-enemies]] who could believeably stand toe-to-toe with him.

to:

* FromNobodyToNightmare: A downplayed case, but before this one-shot, Mongul was merely an ArcVillain; this story along with ''ComicBook/ReignOfTheSupermen'' ''[[ComicBook/TheDeathOfSuperman Reign of the Supermen]]'' catapulted him to one of Superman's select [[{{ArchEnemy}} arch-enemies]] who could believeably stand toe-to-toe with him.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* FromNobodyToNightmare: A downplayed case, but before this one-shot, Mongul was merely an ArcVillain; this story along with ''ComicBook/ReignOfTheSupermen'' catapulted him to one of Superman's select [[{{ArchEnemy}} arch-enemies]] who could believeably stand toe-to-toe with him.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* DeusAngstMachina: There's probably no logical reason why a logical extrapolation of what Superman's life on Krypton would be like would ''not'' involve the world having descended into social upheaval and riots, his father having become a reactionary bigot, and his mother having died of cancer. But there's also no reason it would ''have'' to involve those things other than it being necessary for the plot.

to:

* DeusAngstMachina: There's probably no logical reason why a logical extrapolation of what Superman's life on Krypton would be like would ''not'' involve the world having descended into social upheaval and riots, his father having become a reactionary bigot, and his mother having died of cancer. But there's also no reason it would ''have'' to involve those things other than it being necessary for the plot. One might surmise it's his subconscious telling him that something is very wrong -- in fact, Kal-El mentions at the Kandor Crater that the entire situation somehow feels wrong.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* ContinuityNod: Countless, particularly to the [[UsefulNotes/TheSilverAgeOfComicBooks Silver Age]]. Superman's wife is Lyla Ler-Rol, who [[StarCrossedLovers Superman met while time-stranded on Krypton]], the various Kryptonian geographical landmarks are callbacks to other Silver Age stories, etc. Creator/AlanMoore has stated repeatedly that he is a great fan of the Silver Age Superman, and everything that goes along with him.

to:

* ContinuityNod: Countless, particularly to the [[UsefulNotes/TheSilverAgeOfComicBooks Silver Age]]. Superman's wife is Lyla Ler-Rol, who [[StarCrossedLovers Superman met while time-stranded on Krypton]], the various Kryptonian geographical landmarks are callbacks to other Silver Age stories, etc. Creator/AlanMoore has stated repeatedly that he is a great fan of the Silver Age Superman, and everything that goes along with him. On Batman's side, his fantasy involves him marrying Kathy Kane, the Silver Age Bat-Woman.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* {{Stripperific}}: In the comic, Batman, Robin, and Wonder Woman are making small talk outside the Fortress in the Arctic snow. When Wonder Woman suggests they (specifically, Batman and Robin who are not endowed with superpowers like she is) get inside to avoid the cold, Robin (himself barelegged) comments on how little she's wearing compared to them: "Before ''us'' two freeze? Dressed like that?" Batman merely replies with "Think clean thoughts, chum."

to:

* {{Stripperific}}: In the comic, Batman, Robin, and Wonder Woman are making small talk outside the Fortress in the Arctic snow. When Wonder Woman suggests they (specifically, Batman and Robin who are not endowed with superpowers like she is) get inside to avoid the cold, Robin (himself barelegged) comments on how little she's wearing compared to them: "Before ''us'' two freeze? Dressed like that?" Batman merely replies with "Think clean thoughts, chum."chum," with a restrained smile on his face afterward.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


The ''Series/{{Supergirl 2015}}'' episode, cheekily titled "For the Girl Who Has Everything," makes rather more significant changes. Kara retains her old memories and spends a while trying to get out of the dream world before accepting that it's "real," and her sister Alex has to actually enter the dream herself to get her out. The Black Mercy then dies once it's pulled off, allowing the perpetrator Non to live to fight another day after a beating from Supergirl.

to:

The ''Series/{{Supergirl 2015}}'' episode, cheekily titled "For the Girl Who Has Everything," makes rather more significant changes. Kara retains her old memories and spends a while trying to get out of the dream world before accepting that it's "real," and her sister Alex has to actually enter the dream herself to get her out. The Black Mercy then dies once it's pulled off, allowing the perpetrator Non to live to fight another day after a beating from Supergirl.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* NoHoldsBarredBeatdown: Superman deals one to Mongul in a fit of rage. Of course, Mongul absorbs his punches like a steel wall, but still.

to:

* NoHoldsBarredBeatdown: Superman deals one to Mongul in a fit of rage. Of course, Even Mongul absorbs his punches like a steel wall, but still.was afraid that he was going to kill him.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


"For the Man Who Has Everything" is a classic ''Franchise/{{Superman}}'' story by writer Creator/AlanMoore and artist [[ComicBook/{{Watchmen}} Dave Gibbons]]; it was published in ''Superman Annual'' #11 (1985). [[PragmaticAdaptation The story was later adapted]] into a [[Recap/JusticeLeagueUnlimitedS1E2ForTheManWhoHasEverything a very popular episode]] of ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueUnlimited''. It also received a live action (and far looser) adaptation in ''Series/{{Supergirl 2015}}''. The story was also included in the trade omnibus of ''ComicBook/WhateverHappenedToTheManOfTomorrow''.

to:

"For the Man Who Has Everything" is a classic ''Franchise/{{Superman}}'' story by writer Creator/AlanMoore and artist [[ComicBook/{{Watchmen}} Dave Gibbons]]; it was published in ''Superman Annual'' #11 (1985). [[PragmaticAdaptation The story was later adapted]] into a [[Recap/JusticeLeagueUnlimitedS1E2ForTheManWhoHasEverything a very popular episode]] of ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueUnlimited''. It also received a live action (and far looser) adaptation in ''Series/{{Supergirl 2015}}''. The story was also included in the trade omnibus of ''ComicBook/WhateverHappenedToTheManOfTomorrow''.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


"For the Man Who Has Everything" is a classic ''Franchise/{{Superman}}'' story by writer Creator/AlanMoore and artist [[ComicBook/{{Watchmen}} Dave Gibbons]]; it was published in ''Superman Annual'' #11 (1985). [[PragmaticAdaptation The story was later adapted]] into a [[Recap/JusticeLeagueUnlimitedS1E2ForTheManWhoHasEverything popular episode]] of ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueUnlimited''. It also received a live action (and far looser) adaptation in ''Series/{{Supergirl 2015}}''. The story was also included in the trade omnibus of ''ComicBook/WhateverHappenedToTheManOfTomorrow''.

to:

"For the Man Who Has Everything" is a classic ''Franchise/{{Superman}}'' story by writer Creator/AlanMoore and artist [[ComicBook/{{Watchmen}} Dave Gibbons]]; it was published in ''Superman Annual'' #11 (1985). [[PragmaticAdaptation The story was later adapted]] into a [[Recap/JusticeLeagueUnlimitedS1E2ForTheManWhoHasEverything a very popular episode]] of ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueUnlimited''. It also received a live action (and far looser) adaptation in ''Series/{{Supergirl 2015}}''. The story was also included in the trade omnibus of ''ComicBook/WhateverHappenedToTheManOfTomorrow''.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* DeusAngstMachina: There's probably no logical reason why a logical extrapolation of what Superman's life on Krypton would be like would ''not'' involve the world having descended into social upheaval and riots, his father having become a reactionary bigot, and his mother having died of cancer. But there's also no reason it would ''have'' to involve those things other than it being necessary for the plot.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* SignificantBirthDate: Superman's birthday is on [[LeapDay February 29]].
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* CrapsackWorld: What Krypton has apparently become in Superman's dream, at least thats what Jor-El believes.

to:

* CrapsackWorld: What Krypton has apparently become in Superman's dream, dream -- at least thats that's what Jor-El believes.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
moderator restored to earlier version
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
There's no "general consensus" on lines from an ancient comic book


* KickTheDog: General consensus seems to be that Mongul's sexist remarks are done ''just'' to be a prick.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


"For the Man Who Has Everything" is a classic ''Franchise/{{Superman}}'' story by Creator/AlanMoore and [[ComicBook/{{Watchmen}} Dave Gibbons]]; it was published in ''Superman Annual'' #11 (1985). [[PragmaticAdaptation The story was later adapted]] into a [[Recap/JusticeLeagueUnlimitedS1E2ForTheManWhoHasEverything popular episode]] of ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueUnlimited''. It also received a live action (and far looser) adaptation in ''Series/{{Supergirl 2015}}''. The story was also included in the trade omnibus of ''ComicBook/WhateverHappenedToTheManOfTomorrow''.

to:

"For the Man Who Has Everything" is a classic ''Franchise/{{Superman}}'' story by writer Creator/AlanMoore and artist [[ComicBook/{{Watchmen}} Dave Gibbons]]; it was published in ''Superman Annual'' #11 (1985). [[PragmaticAdaptation The story was later adapted]] into a [[Recap/JusticeLeagueUnlimitedS1E2ForTheManWhoHasEverything popular episode]] of ''WesternAnimation/JusticeLeagueUnlimited''. It also received a live action (and far looser) adaptation in ''Series/{{Supergirl 2015}}''. The story was also included in the trade omnibus of ''ComicBook/WhateverHappenedToTheManOfTomorrow''.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* ExposedToTheElements: Wonder Woman wears her usual costume in the Arctic. Lampshaded by Robin.

Added: 145

Changed: 47

Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


* ArmorPiercingResponse: Kal tells his father, "Sometimes, I think you ''wanted'' Krypton to be destroyed." After he leaves, Jor-El angrily smashes a crystal tree sculpture then sobs piteously.

to:

* ArmorPiercingResponse: Kal tells his father, "Sometimes, I think you ''wanted'' to be right. Sometimes, I think you ''wanted'' Krypton to be destroyed." After he leaves, Jor-El angrily smashes a crystal tree sculpture then sobs piteously.


Added DiffLines:

** Rather obviously, it becomes a CurseCutShort in ''Justice League Unlimited'', as Wonder Woman fires the weapon just before she can say "hell".
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None


--> '''Superman:''' Do you understand what you ''DID'' TO ME?

to:

--> '''Superman:''' Do you understand have any idea what you ''DID'' TO ME?
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* NoHoldsBarredBeatdown: Superman deals one to Mongul in a fit of rage. Of course, Mongul absorbs his punches like a steel wall, but still.
--> '''Superman:''' Do you understand what you ''DID'' TO ME?


Added DiffLines:

** Not only that, the word "'''MONGUL'''" fills the ''[[PaintingTheFourthWall entire panel]]''. See [[http://maxlevelgeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/supermanannual11a.jpg here.]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* {{Expy}}: The Sword of Rao are pretty obvious UsefulNotes/KuKluxKlan expies.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None

Added DiffLines:

* WhatAreYou: Asked verbatim by Batman of Mongul in the original. Mongul scoffs that if Bats doesn't know who he is, then he's not worthy of an introduction.

Top