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* RubberMan: He's a spoof of Mr. Fantastic and the only one of the Impossibles to have a useful power.
* ThatManIsDead: Attempts this by calling himself Professor Incorrigible, but Limb wasn't crazy about the idea.
* TraumaCongaLine: In "Twenty Years to Midnight" he is turned into a flag by Team Venture, his wife leaves him and the next time we see him he's crossed the DespairEventHorizon, but his humiliation wasn't over because then his repeated attempts at suicide failed publicly.
* SelfServingMemory: Didn't correct Phantom Limb when he claimed it was Rusty's fault his wife left him.
* TheSociopath: A high-functioning and affable one (in a 1950s TV-dad kind of way), but his interactions with people underlines that this guy has ''serious'' difficulty differentiating between people and disposable lab rats.

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* RubberMan: He's As a spoof of Mr. Fantastic Fantastic, he has incredible stretching abilities and is the only one of the Impossibles to have a useful power.
* ThatManIsDead: Attempts this by calling himself Professor Incorrigible, but Limb wasn't crazy about the idea.
* TraumaCongaLine: In "Twenty Years to Midnight" he is turned into a flag by Team Venture, his wife leaves him and the next time we see him he's crossed the DespairEventHorizon, but his humiliation wasn't over because then his repeated attempts at suicide failed publicly.
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SelfServingMemory: Didn't He doesn't correct Phantom Limb when he claimed claims it was Rusty's fault his wife left him.
* TheSociopath: A high-functioning and affable one (in a 1950s TV-dad kind of way), but his interactions with people underlines that this guy has ''serious'' difficulty differentiating between people and disposable lab rats. He's really not that different from Jonas Venture Sr. in this regard, having served under him the Team Venture "Boys Brigade", but lacking [[VillainWithGoodPublicity as much good publicity]].



* StringTheory: Played with. When Phantom Limb tracks him down, he's stretched ''himself'' all across his office, as a sign of his worsening mental state and his desire to retain control of everything.
* TeacherStudentRomance: Was fired from State University when (possibly due to the future Phantom Limb ousting him so he could snipe his position) the college learned he was having an affair with Sally, who was his student at the time. Though humiliated, he expressed some optimism over how his sacking would allow the two of them to "date openly", eventually leading to their extremely rocky marriage.
* VillainDecay: Starts as a [[KnightOfCerebus pretty intimidating presence]] but after his TraumaCongaLine and Creator/StephenColbert [[TheOtherDarrin being replaced by]] Creator/BillHader he became about as ineffective as the shows other villains. Thankfully [[EvilMentor Henry Killinger then showed up.]]
* VillainousBreakdown: Undergoes a major one after Sally leaves him.
* VillainousFriendship: He was in the Boys' Brigade with fellow amoral scientists Jonas Venture Sr. and Phantom Limb. He later develops one with the rest of the Revenge Society.
* VillainWithGoodPublicity: He manages to keep his good publicity up until his split with Sally. Though he isn't actually exposed for the JerkAss that he is, his mental breakdown and decline have become apparent to others.

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* StringTheory: Played with. When Phantom Limb tracks him down, he's stretched ''himself'' all across his office, as a sign of his worsening mental state and his desire to retain control of everything.
* TeacherStudentRomance: Was A deleted scene from "The Invisible Hand of Fate" shows that he was fired from State University when (possibly due to the future Phantom Limb ousting him so he could snipe his position) the college learned he was having an affair with Sally, who was his student at the time. Though humiliated, he expressed some optimism over how his sacking would allow the two of them to "date openly", eventually leading to their extremely rocky marriage.
* ThatManIsDead: Attempts this by calling himself Professor Incorrigible as a villain, but its clear that Phantom Limb isn't crazy about the name.
* TraumaCongaLine: In "Twenty Years to Midnight", he is turned into a flag by Team Venture, his wife leaves him, and the next time we see him he's crossed the DespairEventHorizon and DrivenToSuicide. However, his humiliation wasn't over, because then his repeated attempts at suicide fail spectacularly and publicly. It all feeds into his eventual FaceHeelTurn into villainy.
* VillainDecay: Starts off as a [[KnightOfCerebus pretty intimidating presence]] but after an extremely competent and dangerous scientist who is [[NominalHero nominally "good"]], easily capturing the Ventures in "Twenty Minutes to Midnight". Following his TraumaCongaLine and Creator/StephenColbert [[TheOtherDarrin being replaced by]] Creator/BillHader FaceHeelTurn, he became about as becomes ineffective as like most of the shows show's other villains. Thankfully Like the rest of the Revenge Society, he gets a bump in competency courtesy of [[EvilMentor Henry Killinger then showed up.]]
Dr. Killinger]] by "All This and Gargantua-2", but departs from villainy after.
* VillainousBreakdown: Undergoes Starts off as a sociopathic ForScience-focused NominalHero and undergoes a major one breakdown after Sally leaves him.
him. Goes over the DespairEventHorizon, is DrivenToSuicide (but fails), and ultimately undergoes a full FaceHeelTurn into full villainy.
* VillainousFriendship: He was in the Boys' Brigade with original Team Venture "Boys Brigade" under fellow amoral scientists scientist Jonas Venture Sr. and with future supervillain Phantom Limb. He later develops one with the rest of the Revenge Society.
* VillainWithGoodPublicity: He manages to keep his good publicity up until his split with Sally. Though he isn't actually exposed for the JerkAss that he is, his mental breakdown and decline have become apparent to others.others, causing staff to leave Impossible Industries.

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* DistinguishedGentlemansPipe: Usually seen with one Eventually changes it for one that looks like a skull as part of his EvilCostumeSwitch

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\n* DistinguishedGentlemansPipe: Usually seen with one Eventually changes it for one that looks like a skull one, befitting his "gentlemanly super-scientist professor" characterization. After his FaceHeelTurn, as part of his EvilCostumeSwitchEvilCostumeSwitch, he starts using one shaped like a skull instead.
* DomesticAbuse: Not physically, but he emotionally neglects Sally and tries to keep her hidden away due to her "condition".



* DrivenToSuicide: Tried to kill himself at least two times after Sally dumped him.
* DomesticAbuse: Not physically, but he emotionally neglects Sally.
* EvilCostumeSwitch: After joining the Revenge Society, he adopts a darker purple costume with a skull logo. He also swaps out his DistinguishedGentlemansPipe for one shaped like a skull at that time as well.
* FaceHeelTurn: Well, he was always a dick, but he drops all pretense of being one of the "good guys" upon joining Phantom Limb's Revenge Society.
* ForScience: He conducted an experiment that blew up in his face. It granted him incredible stretching powers but left his family with painful and hideous mutations. Not only is he completely unsympathetic to their plight, but he treats them like prisoners most of the time lest they embarrass him. He is a thinly-veiled parody of ''The ComicBook/FantasticFour''[='=]s Reed Richards, who has slipped into this trope from ReedRichardsIsUseless more than once (most prominently during ''ComicBook/CivilWar2006''). His crowning moment of For Science comes when confronted by his wife that their son was missing, he ignores her and handwaves it:

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* DrivenToSuicide: Tried Tries to kill himself at least two times after Sally dumped him.
* DomesticAbuse: Not physically, but he emotionally neglects Sally.
leaves him. One makes him an AccidentalHero, "swallowing" the explosion of Spider-Skull Island (which doesn't harm his rubbery body) and saving all of the other guests in the process.
* EvilCostumeSwitch: After joining the Revenge Society, he adopts a darker purple costume with a skull logo. He also swaps out his DistinguishedGentlemansPipe for one shaped like a skull at that time as well.
* FaceHeelTurn: Well, he He was [[NominalHero always a dick, dick]], but he drops all pretense of being one of the "good guys" upon joining Phantom Limb's Revenge Society.
* ForScience: He conducted an experiment that blew up resulting in his face. It granted a FreakLabAccident, granting him incredible [[RubberMan stretching powers powers]] but left leaving the rest of his family with painful and hideous mutations."powers". Not only is he completely unsympathetic to their plight, but he treats them like prisoners most of the time lest they embarrass him. He is a thinly-veiled parody CorruptedCharacterCopy of ''The ComicBook/FantasticFour''[='=]s Reed Richards, who has slipped into this trope from ReedRichardsIsUseless more than once (most prominently during ''ComicBook/CivilWar2006''). His crowning moment of For Science "For Science!" comes when confronted by his wife that because their son was is missing, he ignores her and handwaves it:



* HeelFaceRevolvingDoor: In the first two seasons he identifies as a "good guy" despite being very despicable. In season three, after Sally leaves him, he crosses the DespairEventHorizon and at least has enough good in him to attempt a HeroicSacrifice. Then in season four, he joins Phantom Limb's Revenge Society and embraces his inner evil. Then in the special ''All This and Gargantua-2'', he leaves the Revenge Society after his ex-wife convinces him to leave with her instead of dying on the space station.

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* HeelFaceRevolvingDoor: In the first two seasons he identifies as a "good guy" despite being very despicable. some despicable behaviors. In season three, after Sally leaves him, he crosses the DespairEventHorizon and at least has enough good in him to attempt a HeroicSacrifice.HeroicSacrifice, if only because he's DrivenToSuicide first. Then in season four, he joins Phantom Limb's Revenge Society and embraces his inner evil. Then ''Then'' in the pre-season six special ''All "All This and Gargantua-2'', Gargantua-2", he leaves the Revenge Society after his ex-wife convinces him to leave with her instead of dying on the space station.



* ICannotSelfTerminate: Has been unable to kill himself because his rubber body is so durable.
* InsufferableGenius: As a Reed Richards parody, he takes all of Reed's faults and turns them up to eleven.

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* ICannotSelfTerminate: Has Though DrivenToSuicide after Sally leaves him, he has been unable to actually kill himself because his rubber RubberMan body is so durable.
durable. Even "swallowing" an explosion meant to destroy an entire island merely inflates him like a massive balloon.
* InsufferableGenius: As a Reed Richards parody, he [[CorruptedCharacterCopy takes all of Reed's faults and turns them up to eleven.eleven]]. Arrogance, lacking empathy, ForScience pursuits above all else...



* LaughablyEvil: Became waaay more humorous once he went off the deep end and joined the Revenge Society. This may have something to do with Bill Hader, though.

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* LaughablyEvil: Became waaay more humorous once he went off the deep end underwent his FaceHeelTurn and joined the Revenge Society. This may have something It's helped along by the change in voice actors around that same time to do with the humorous Bill Hader, though.as well.



* NotSoHarmlessVillain: While his lack of experience has kept him from being an effective supervillain thus far, it must be remembered that this is the same person who has devised a biological agent capable of turning living creatures into bombs and has harnessed his brother-in-law's self-combustion powers to provide Impossible Industries with enough free electricity to go completely "green", all of which occurred before he decided to become a real supervillain.

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* NotSoHarmlessVillain: While his lack of experience has kept him from being an effective supervillain thus far, immediately after his FaceHeelTurn, it must be remembered that this is the same person who has devised a biological agent capable of turning living creatures into bombs and has harnessed his brother-in-law's self-combustion powers to provide Impossible Industries with enough free electricity to go completely "green", all of which occurred before he decided to become a real supervillain.supervillain.
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* CorruptedCharacterCopy: To ''ComicBook/DoctorStrange''. He has no real [=PhD=], only a degree in Communications and a minor in Women's Studies from a community college, while Stephen Strange was an accomplished neurosurgeon before becoming Sorceror Supreme. He calls himself a "necromancer" simply because all of the other magic-user titles have fallen out of favor (note that he actually ''can'' communicate with and raise the dead as a proper {{Necromancer}} does, it's just not his primary field of magic), is constantly outdone by his former student (the Outrider, who also stole his wife), and his LargeHam tendencies are considered annoying and embarrassing by his daughter. Nonetheless, [[DarkIsNotEvil he's by far the nicest]] member of the main cast.


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* CorruptedCharacterCopy: To ''ComicBook/{{Blade}}'', as he specifically hunts "blaculas" (black vampires) to the point of CripplingOverspecialization (he notes that he'd be lost if he had to fight a regular vampire and get killed if he had to fight a magic-user without the rest of the Triad around), and Blade's {{Dhampyr}} thirst for blood or artificial replacements spoofed by low blood sugar making him crave sugary drinks (most notably [[TrademarkFavoriteFood Nik-L-Nips]]).
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* CorruptedCharacterCopy: Is introduced as a CaptainErsatz of Reed Richards, but soon shows a much darker side as a sexist, bigoted {{Jerkass}} who's uncaring and abusive to his family with a destructive ForScience attitude. Hilariously, he actually predates a lot of Marvel's own deconstructions of Reed, like hiss [[ComicBook/UltimateFantasticFour Ultimate Universe]] incarnation, who [[FaceHeelTurn ends up becoming a villain in his own right]], and the Council of Reeds.

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* CorruptedCharacterCopy: Is introduced as a CaptainErsatz of Reed Richards, but soon shows a much darker side as a sexist, bigoted {{Jerkass}} who's uncaring and abusive to his family with a destructive ForScience attitude. Hilariously, he actually predates a lot of Marvel's own deconstructions of Reed, like hiss his [[ComicBook/UltimateFantasticFour Ultimate Universe]] incarnation, who [[FaceHeelTurn ends up becoming a villain in his own right]], and the Council of Reeds.

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A CaptainErsatz family of the ''ComicBook/FantasticFour''.

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A CaptainErsatz super-science family of based heavily on the ''ComicBook/FantasticFour''.






* DarkParody: The family was exposed to a SuperEmpowering event that left 3/4 of them with severe physical ''detriments''. It negatively impacts them to the point where Sally leaves Richard who, in his despair goes into a suicidal depression and eventually turns to outright villainy. A far cry fro their inspiration.
* ExpyCoexistence: They exist in a world where the ''Fantastic Four'' is a comic book, and even went as them for Halloween one year (winning the prize for best group costume).
* TheFantasticFaux: Richard is almost a note-for-note parody of Reed Richards, down to being a scientist with rubber abilities, with his ForScience sociopathy played up. The rest of his group includes his wife Sally, who can only turn her ''skin'' invisible, Sally's mentally-impaired cousin Ned, whose skin became one giant callous, and Sally's brother Cody, who bursts into flame if his skin touches oxygen (and with no immunity to burning). The parody plays up the darker aspects of the ''FF'' and turns them up to eleven, with the team eventually falling apart and Impossible becoming an antagonist in later seasons.

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* DarkParody: The family was exposed to a SuperEmpowering event that left 3/4 of them with severe physical ''detriments''. It negatively impacts them to the point where Sally leaves Richard who, in his despair despair, goes into a suicidal depression and eventually turns to outright villainy. A far cry fro from their inspiration.
* ExpyCoexistence: They exist in a world where the ''Fantastic Four'' is a comic book, and even went going as them for Halloween one year (winning the prize for best group costume).
* TheFantasticFaux: Richard is almost a note-for-note parody of Reed Richards, down to being a scientist with rubber abilities, with his ForScience sociopathy played up. The rest of his group includes his wife Sally, who can only turn her whose ''skin'' invisible, is invisible and her power is to make it ''visible'', Sally's mentally-impaired cousin Ned, whose skin became one giant callous, and Sally's brother Cody, who bursts into flame if his skin touches oxygen (and with (with no immunity to burning). The parody plays up the darker aspects of the ''FF'' and turns them up to eleven, with the team eventually falling apart and Impossible becoming an antagonist in later seasons.



->'''Voiced by''': Creator/StephenColbert (Seasons 1, 2 and 6), Creator/BillHader (Season 4), Peter [=McCulloch=] (The Terrible Secret of Turtle Bay)
->''(When asked by Sally about what's more important than family) "Sciiiennnceee?"''




A fellow super-scientist and CaptainErsatz of ''ComicBook/FantasticFour'' leader Reed Richards AKA Mr. Fantastic, but much, much darker. At first, he seemed just like his counterpart... and then it was revealed his fellow members got useless, or in one case harmful, powers and that he kept them under wraps to save face. Doctor Venture won over his wife, Sally, while working with Impossible but left her behind when they left. She finally escaped with Doctor Venture's brother J.J. along with her and her son Rocket. He didn't take it well. He soon fell into a deep depression until his old buddy Phantom Limb convinced him to go over to the evil side while remaining a super scientist to the public. He became a supervillain and part of Phantom Limb's Revenge Society until it was dissolved after the destruction of Gargantua-2.

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\n->'''Voiced by''': Creator/StephenColbert (Seasons one, two, and six), Christopher [=McCullouch=] (Season three), Creator/BillHader (Season four), Peter [=McCulloch=] (Pilot)
->''(When asked by Sally about what's more important than family) "Sciiiennnceee?"''

A fellow super-scientist and CaptainErsatz colleague of ''ComicBook/FantasticFour'' leader Reed Richards AKA Mr. Fantastic, but much, much darker. At first, he seemed just like his counterpart... and then it was revealed his fellow members got useless, or in one case harmful, powers and that he kept them under wraps to save face. Doctor Venture won over his wife, Sally, while working with Dr. Venture, Prof. Richard Impossible but served in the original Team Venture "Boys Brigade" and was a professor at State University. Prior to the start of the series, he and his family were involved in an accident that gave Richard stretching powers while everyone else got useless (or outright harmful) "powers". His wife Sally later left her behind when they left. She finally escaped with Doctor Venture's brother J.J. along with her him for Jonas Jr., taking their son Rocket, and her son Rocket. He didn't take it well. He soon his life fell into a deep depression until his old buddy shambles. Fellow former "Boys Brigrade" member Phantom Limb convinced convinces him to go over to the evil side while remaining a super scientist to the public. He became become a supervillain and as part of Phantom Limb's Revenge Society Society, until it was is dissolved after following the destruction of Gargantua-2.Gagantua-2.






* AccidentalHero: Saves the whole Spider Skull Island from exploding, by trying to [[DrivenToSuicide kill himself with it]].
* BeardOfSorrow: Starts to grow one after Sally dumps him. Shaves it (with the help of Phantom Limb) immediately after joining the Revenge Society.
* BreakTheHaughty: By the time his TraumaCongaLine below is finished, Richard has become a wreck of a man. It is only after Phantom Limb tells him to literally pull himself together and decides to form the Revenge Society with him that things begin to look up again.
* BrokenAce: He's undeniably brilliant, but he's also seriously lacking in empathy and completely selfish. He only breaks further after his wife divorces him.
* CaptainErsatz: Of [[ComicBook/FantasticFour Mr. Fantastic]].
* CardCarryingVillain: He really enjoys his new status of villain, [[ThatManIsDead changing his name]], throwing [[IncrediblyLamePun puns]] and all the stuff.
* CorruptedCharacterCopy: Is very clearly one of Reed Richards, otherwise known as [[ComicBook/FantasticFour Mr. Fantastic]]. He's basically Reed devoid of all empathy and completely selfish, and a complete burden to society rather than a benefit to it. Hilariously, he actually predates a lot of Marvel's own deconstructions of Reed, like his extremely selfish turned supervillain Ultimate universe counterpart, and the Council of Reeds.
* {{Deconstruction}}: His turn to the dark side is itself a deconstruction of the idea that HeroWithAnFInGood is better suited to being a villain as the same traits that made him a bad hero, such as his lack of empathy and absent mindedness, continue to hamper him in his new career path.

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* AccidentalHero: Saves the whole Spider Skull Island from exploding, exploding in "Now Museum, Now You Don't", by trying to [[DrivenToSuicide kill himself with it]].
it]], "inhaling" the explosion into his rubbery body.
* BeardOfSorrow: Starts to grow one after Sally dumps him. Shaves it (with the help of Phantom Limb) immediately after joining the Revenge Society.
Society and finding new purpose as a supervillain.
* BreakTheHaughty: By the time his TraumaCongaLine below is finished, Richard has become a wreck of a man. It is only after Phantom Limb tells him to literally pull himself together and decides to form the villainous Revenge Society with him that things begin to look up again.
* BrokenAce: He's an undeniably brilliant, brilliant scientist, but he's also seriously lacking in empathy and completely selfish. He only breaks further after his wife divorces him.
* CaptainErsatz: Of A [[CorruptedCharacterCopy very corrupted]] version of [[ComicBook/FantasticFour Mr. Fantastic]].
Fantastic]], being a scientist patriarch with RubberMan powers.
* CardCarryingVillain: He really enjoys his new status of villain, [[ThatManIsDead changing his name]], throwing [[IncrediblyLamePun puns]] puns]], and all the stuff.
everything else that comes with it.
* CorruptedCharacterCopy: Is very clearly one introduced as a CaptainErsatz of Reed Richards, otherwise known but soon shows a much darker side as [[ComicBook/FantasticFour Mr. Fantastic]]. He's basically Reed devoid of all empathy a sexist, bigoted {{Jerkass}} who's uncaring and completely selfish, and a complete burden abusive to society rather than his family with a benefit to it. destructive ForScience attitude. Hilariously, he actually predates a lot of Marvel's own deconstructions of Reed, like his extremely selfish turned supervillain hiss [[ComicBook/UltimateFantasticFour Ultimate universe counterpart, Universe]] incarnation, who [[FaceHeelTurn ends up becoming a villain in his own right]], and the Council of Reeds.
* {{Deconstruction}}: His turn to the dark side is itself a deconstruction of the idea that HeroWithAnFInGood is better suited to being a villain as the same traits that made him a bad hero, such as his lack of empathy and absent mindedness, continue to hamper him in his new career path.


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!!The Order of the Triad



!! The Master



->'''The Master''': ''[to Triana]'' OK listen, I’m the Master. I’m like your dad’s omniscient boss.

A enigmatic, shapeshifting sorcerer who taught Orpheus everything he knows, The Master inhabits a dimension known as "Necropolis" and is often sought by Orpheus for his counsel. Snarky and not shy about calling Orpheus out, he often takes a form that relates to whatever wisdom he is trying to impart.

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->'''The Master''': ''[to Triana]'' OK listen, I’m the The Master. I’m like your dad’s omniscient boss.

A An enigmatic, shapeshifting sorcerer who taught Orpheus everything he knows, served as Orpheus' magical mentor, The Master inhabits a dimension known as "Necropolis" and is often sought by Orpheus for his counsel. Snarky and not shy about calling Orpheus out, he often takes a form that relates to whatever wisdom he is trying to impart.



!!Triana Orpheus
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Triana is the daughter of Dr. Orpheus and lives with her father in a rented out laboratory-cum-apartment within the Venture compound. She is 17, a bit of a goth, but otherwise a completely normal teenage girl. She is possibly the most down-to-earth character on the show, despite her father's tendency to dramatize. She takes an interest in kitsch. Dean had nurtured a crush on her for most of the show's run. The very moment that Dean decided to tell her, Triana revealed her non-interest in him.

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The teenage
daughter of Dr. Orpheus and Orpheus, Triana lives with her father in a his rented out laboratory-cum-apartment within the Venture compound. She is 17, Despite her goth-like appearance, she's a bit of a goth, but otherwise a completely normal fairly typical teenage girl. She is girl and possibly the most down-to-earth character on the show, despite her father's tendency to dramatize. She takes an interest in kitsch. Dean had nurtured a has an unrequited crush on her for most and, as of the show's run. The very moment that Dean decided season four, she's left to tell her, Triana revealed study magic with her non-interest in him.mother and step-father.



* AffectionateNickname: Her dad calls her "Pumpkin", possibly because the Halloween-y vibes make sense between a necromancer and a goth.
* TheBusCameBack: She returned for the season four finale.
* DaddysGirl: While sometimes her dad embarrasses her, Triana is very close with her dad and loves him dearly. The love between them is also clearly mutual.
* DeadpanSnarker: One of the more well-adjusted individuals in the series, and will break out the snark in regards to the ridiculousness of the other characters.
* FollowInMyFootsteps: Inverted. Orpheus would rather she go to art school, and for her own safety not get mixed up with the magical or supernatural. (It's not touched upon whether this was the case ''before'' they met the Ventures or not.)

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* AffectionateNickname: Her dad calls her "Pumpkin", possibly because the Halloween-y vibes make sense a fairly common affectionate nickname, but its association with Halloween also fits between a necromancer and a goth.
* TheBusCameBack: She returned for the season four finale.
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DaddysGirl: While sometimes her dad embarrasses her, Triana Orpheus can be an {{Amazingly Embarrassing Parent|s}}, there is very close with her dad and loves him dearly. The obvious mutual love between them is also clearly mutual.
them.
* DeadpanSnarker: One of the more well-adjusted individuals in the series, series and will doesn't hesitate to break out the snark in regards to regarding the ridiculousness of the other characters.
* FollowInMyFootsteps: Inverted. Orpheus would rather she go to art school, and and, for her own safety safety, not get mixed up with the magical or supernatural. (It's It's not touched upon whether this was the case ''before'' they met the Ventures or not.)



* LaserGuidedAmnesia: Whenever she finds the portal to the Burning Nowhere in her closet her father erases her memories of it. The Master eventually points this out to her and she doesn't tell her father about her latest visit.
* LimitedWardrobe: She always wears the same outfit, which is later [[JustifiedTrope justified]] because her father put a portal to a mystical realm in her closet and she has nightmares as a result, seeing as she can venture into the closet to see the Master like her father, but Dr. Orpheus keeps wiping her memory every time she reveals the truth to him.
* MissingMom: Eventually leaves the Venture Compound to study magic with her mother.
* NotSoStoic: She seems to be an apathetic goth girl in the first season, taking her father's LargeHam tendencies and necromantic powers in stride along with the catastrophic super science escapades of the Ventures next door, but the thought of Dean and Hank brought back from the dead by sorcery reduces her to trembling and tears.
* OnlySaneMan: During the first season and a half or so she was this around Dean and Hank, before slowly vanishing from importance.
* PerkyGoth: A phenomenally well-adjusted example, especially for the daughter of a high-level, NiceGuy, LargeHam sorcerer. As of season four, she [[PutOnABus leaves to study magic herself]], but her personality remains the same.
* PutOnABus: After recurring through the first three seasons, she moves in with her mother to study magic in season four. She returns for the season four finale, then is never seen again.
* SupernaturalSensitivity: Orpheus' Master points out in their conversation together, that just by ''coming through the portal in her closet'' Triana has proved that she has significant magical talent - {{Muggles}} can't even see the portal.
* WellExcuseMePrincess: Seen mostly toward Hank and Dermott.

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* LaserGuidedAmnesia: Whenever she finds the portal to the Burning Nowhere [[PocketDimension Necropolis]] in her closet closet, her father erases her memories of it. The Master eventually points this out to her and her, so she doesn't tell her father about her latest visit.
* LimitedWardrobe: She always wears the same outfit, which is later [[JustifiedTrope justified]] because her father put a portal to a mystical realm in her closet and she has nightmares as a result, seeing as she can venture into the closet to see the Master like her father, but Dr. Orpheus keeps wiping her memory every time she reveals the truth to him.
result.
* MissingMom: Eventually leaves the Venture Compound Her mother left her father to study magic be with one of her father's students. She lives with her mother.
father into season four, but decides to go live with her mother (at The Master's urging) to become a sorceress.
* NotSoStoic: She seems to be an apathetic goth girl in the first season, taking her father's LargeHam tendencies and necromantic powers in stride along with the catastrophic super science escapades of the Ventures next door, but door. However, the thought of Hank and Dean and Hank being brought back from the dead by sorcery reduces her to trembling and tears.
* OnlySaneMan: During She's quite possibly the first season most "normal" character in the series and a half or so she was this around Dean often points out the ridiculousness of the things her father and Hank, before slowly vanishing from importance.
the Ventures get up to.
* PerkyGoth: A phenomenally well-adjusted example, especially for the daughter of a high-level, NiceGuy, LargeHam sorcerer. As of season four, she [[PutOnABus leaves to study magic herself]], but her personality remains the same.
* PutOnABus: After recurring through the first three seasons, she moves in with her mother to study magic in midway through season four. [[TheBusComesBack She returns for the season four finale, finale]], then is never seen again.
* SupernaturalSensitivity: Orpheus' Master points out in their conversation together, that just by ''coming through the portal in her closet'' closet'', Triana has proved that she has significant magical talent - talent. {{Muggles}} can't even see the portal.
* WellExcuseMePrincess: Seen mostly toward Hank and Dermott.Dermott, who don't understand why Dean is into her, leading to some SnarkToSnarkCombat with the latter.


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* BigApplesauce: The headquarters is a massive tower in New York City.
* BoringButPractical: JJ actually shuttered the AwesomeButImpractical "super-science" division, instead focusing on personal communication technologies and their required operating systems, which makes the company billions.
* Fiction500: It's a multi-billion dollar company with a massive headquarters in New York City. One of JJ's projects is to build his own space station, Gargantua-2, an undertaking that costs billions of dollars and the cooperation of multiple ''nations'' in real life.
* IPhony: The top selling products include the jPhone, jPod, and jPad, each parodies of various Apple products.
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* CoolOldGuy: Orpheus is middle-aged, and The Master is his teacher, so he can't be that young (if he's even mortal at all). He's still one of the powerful beings seen in the series, mostly acting as a TricksterMentor to his pupils.



* DeadpanSnarker: Seems to always have a snarky retort ready to go, especially toward Orpheus.
--> '''The Outrider''': Why have you chosen the form of Father Christmas?\\
'''The Master''': Oh, I'm sorry, should I have chosen the Halloween Ferret? Not a lot of options here, pal.
* EveryoneCallsHimBarkeep: Is only ever referred to as "The Master" or "Orpheus' Master". Much like his true form, his true name (if he even has one) is a mystery.



* FantasticNuke: Destroys the accidentally summoned army of the dead during "A Very Venture Halloween" with a flick of his wrist, blowing them up in a nuclear-like explosion.
* InexplicablyAwesome: Possessing magical power even greater than Orpheus, VoluntaryShapeshifting, and his own PocketDimension, The Master is one of the most powerful beings seen in the show but his origins and even true identity are never revealed.



* LaserGuidedAmnesia: Admits in "The Better Man" that the conversation with Triana isn't their first, but that her mind has been wiped after the previous ones.



* MentorArchetype: Seems to be one toward the series' various magic-users. He's specifically a TricksterMentor to Orpheus, but his familiarity with the Outrider, Triana, and some of the magical villains (Red Mantle, Kurse) at the party in "A Very Venture Halloween" implies that he mentors others as well. Whenever he's not trying to teach Orpheus a lesson, he tends to be much more direct with imparting his wisdom.



* PocketDimension: His "Necropolis", explictly referred to as another dimension, appears to be very small whenever other characters visit. It's mostly an elevated throne and a small surrounding area, accessible from places like a closet.



* TheReasonYouSuckSpeech: A gentler example, but he tells Orpheus that he takes himself and his duties far too seriously and that's what drove Tatyana away.

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A snarky, mysterious magician who taught Orpheus everything he knows...and takes every opportunity to shove Orpheus's failures in his face. Likes to take a form that relates to whatever problem Orpheus needs help with, which is often just an excuse for him to try out the PowerPerversionPotential of VoluntaryShapeshifting. He wishes Orpheus would .






* VoluntaryShapeshifting: Note that ''only'' Orpheus gets the TricksterMentor and PowerPerversionPotential treatment. When appearing before anyone else (Triana, Orpheus' guests), the Master opts for forms that have more direct and obvious connections to what he's about to impart.

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* VoluntaryShapeshifting: His most notable and obvious power, to the point where he's never shown his "true form" (if he even has one). Note that ''only'' Orpheus gets the TricksterMentor and PowerPerversionPotential treatment. When appearing before anyone else (Triana, Orpheus' guests), the Master opts for forms that have more direct and obvious connections to what the lesson he's about to impart.

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A snarky, mysterious magician who taught Orpheus everything he knows...and takes every opportunity to shove Orpheus's failures in his face. Likes to take a form that relates to whatever problem Orpheus needs help with, which is often just an excuse for him to try out the PowerPerversionPotential of VoluntaryShapeshifting. He wishes Orpheus would loosen up and act like a normal guy instead of a LargeHam.

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A enigmatic, shapeshifting sorcerer who taught Orpheus everything he knows, The Master inhabits a dimension known as "Necropolis" and is often sought by Orpheus for his counsel. Snarky and not shy about calling Orpheus out, he often takes a form that relates to whatever wisdom he is trying to impart.

A snarky, mysterious magician who taught Orpheus everything he knows...and takes every opportunity to shove Orpheus's failures in his face. Likes to take a form that relates to whatever problem Orpheus needs help with, which is often just an excuse for him to try out the PowerPerversionPotential of VoluntaryShapeshifting. He wishes Orpheus would loosen up and act like a normal guy instead of a LargeHam.would .



* ActorAllusion: Creator/HJonBenjamin plays Master essentially like [[WesternAnimation/HomeMovies Coach McGuirk]] and [[WesternAnimation/{{Archer}} Sterling Archer]] with near omnipotent supernatural powers.[[invoked]]
* AllMenArePerverts: He may be an omniscient master of magic and mysteries, but he sure appreciates Dr. Orpheus' ex-wife's body. He could just be [[TricksterMentor messing with Orpheus]], but he gives Tatyana's form a ''lot'' of attention while he's in it.
* AllPowerfulBystander: Whatever he is, his power far outstrips that of Orpheus, who can, at times, be a DeusExMachina. However, he prefers not to participate in matters on Earth unless he feels it warrants his attention.
* AmbiguouslyHuman: He takes a new form every time he appears, and his original form, if he has one, is never seen, so it is up in the air if he is simply a powerful human magician or something else entirely.
* TheArchmage: He's an all-power magic user who is content to use his powers to goof around.
* ComicallyMissingThePoint: Loves to needle Orpheus for this - apparently their chats often result in AesopAmnesia.
* CynicalMentor: ''Super'' heavy emphasis on the cynical.
* TheFaceless: We've never seen his ''true'' form if he even has one.
* JerkWithAHeartOfGold: He never misses the opportunity to mock Orpheus for his failures in life, or Triana for how she ''could'' fail, but he seems to do this for his pupil's benefit (to show him where he's gone wrong and encourage him to change).
* ManIFeelLikeAWoman: He takes the form of Dr. Orpheus' ex-wife Tatyana at one point, and spends most of the visit openly admiring her ample bosom and shapely behind.
--> '''The Master:''' "Why don't you leave me alone so I can jump rope naked in front of a mirror in your ex-wife's body."
* NobleBigot: Subverted. He's initially built up like this, with Orpheus not bringing The Alchemist to see him because of his sexuality. When the two do actually meet he shows no issue with Al, joking with him before chastising Al and the assembled magicians for raising zombies on a whim.
* JerkWithAHeartOfGold: He belittles Orpheus a lot but still tells him that he's his best pupil.
* PowerPerversionPotential: He turns into Catherine the Great's horse so that he can [[strike:re-enact Catherine's supposed sexual encounter with it]] teach Orpheus a lesson about biting off more than he can chew, turns into Cerberus to [[strike:lick his own genitals and talk at the same time]] teach Orpheus a lesson about being a stuffy know-it-all, and takes the form of Orpheus's ex-wife to [[strike:enjoy the curvy, sexy body]] hit Orpheus where it hurts the most. His shapeshifting always has a purpose and a point, but he milks the Perversion Potential as much as he can.

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* ActorAllusion: [[invoked]] Creator/HJonBenjamin plays The Master as essentially like [[WesternAnimation/HomeMovies Coach McGuirk]] and [[WesternAnimation/{{Archer}} Sterling Archer]] with near omnipotent omniscient supernatural powers.[[invoked]]
powers.
* AllMenArePerverts: He may be an omniscient master of magic and mysteries, magic, but he sure appreciates Dr. Orpheus' ex-wife's body. He could just be [[TricksterMentor messing with Orpheus]], but he gives Tatyana's form a ''lot'' ''[[PowerPerversionPotential lot]]'' of attention while he's in it.
* AllPowerfulBystander: Whatever he is, his power far ''far'' outstrips that of Orpheus, who can, can himself, at times, be qualify as a DeusExMachina. DeusExMachina thanks to his magical abilities. However, he prefers not to participate in mortal matters on Earth unless he feels it warrants his attention.
attention, such as nuking a veritable army of unintentionally resurrected undead.
* AmbiguouslyHuman: He is a massively powerful magic user who takes a new form every time he appears, appears and his original form, if he has one, is never seen, so it is up in the air if seen. It's unclear exactly ''what'' he is simply a is, powerful human magician or something else entirely.
otherwise.
* TheArchmage: He's Subverted. He ''is'' an all-power magic user who could probably solve every problem in the series in seconds, but is content to use his powers to goof around.
around while acting as a TricksterMentor.
* ComicallyMissingThePoint: Loves to needle Orpheus for this - apparently as, apparently, their chats often result in AesopAmnesia.
AesopAmnesia on Orpheus' part.
* CynicalMentor: ''Super'' heavy emphasis on the cynical.
Downplayed. He doesn't really seem to care if Orpheus succeeds or fails, simply imparting his intended lessons and letting Orpheus do what he will with that information. He does seem to care, at least a little, about Orpheus as a person, encouraging him to loosen up and act like a normal guy instead of a LargeHam.
* TheFaceless: We've never seen his ''true'' form form, if he even has one.
* JerkWithAHeartOfGold: He never misses the opportunity to mock needle Orpheus for his failures in life, or Triana for how she ''could'' fail, but he [[TricksterMentor seems to do this for his pupil's benefit benefit]] (to show him them where he's they've gone wrong and encourage him them to change).
* ManIFeelLikeAWoman: He takes the form of Dr. Orpheus' ex-wife Tatyana at one point, and spends most of the visit [[PowerPerversionPotential openly admiring her ample bosom and shapely behind.
behind]].
--> '''The Master:''' "Why Why don't you leave me alone so I can jump rope naked in front of a mirror in your ex-wife's body."
body.
* NobleBigot: Subverted. He's initially built up like this, as one, with Orpheus not bringing The Alchemist to see him because of his sexuality. When the two do actually meet meet, he shows no issue with Al, joking with him before chastising Al and the assembled magicians for raising zombies on a whim.
* JerkWithAHeartOfGold: He belittles Orpheus a lot lot, but it's [[TricksterMentor largely to impart lessons]] and still tells him that he's his best pupil.
* PowerPerversionPotential: He turns into Catherine the Great's horse so that he can [[strike:re-enact Catherine's supposed sexual encounter with it]] teach Orpheus a lesson about biting off more than he can chew, turns into Cerberus to [[strike:lick his own genitals and talk at the same time]] teach Orpheus a lesson about being a stuffy know-it-all, and takes the form of Orpheus's ex-wife to [[strike:enjoy the curvy, sexy body]] hit remind Orpheus where it hurts the most. of what he lost by getting too wrapped-up in his work. His shapeshifting always has a purpose and a point, but he milks the Perversion Potential "Perversion Potential" as much as he can.



* TricksterMentor: For all the grief he gives Orpheus, he honestly does give him useful advice... albeit indirectly and in the form of riddles. His fondness of VoluntaryShapeshifting also suggests a [[TricksterArchetype Trickster]] background.
* UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom: With a theme of the show being about failure and a simpler life; it is strongly hinted that The Master is the reason why Orpheus' life became so convoluted and may have ruined his marriage. He may have done this again with Orpheus' daughter Triana after she decided to live with her mother and Step-father to learn to become a sorceress.

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* TricksterMentor: For all the grief he gives Orpheus, he honestly does give him useful advice... albeit indirectly and indirectly, in the form of riddles.riddles, and often belittles Orpheus. His fondness of VoluntaryShapeshifting also suggests a [[TricksterArchetype Trickster]] background.
* UnwittingInstigatorOfDoom: With a theme of the show being about failure and a simpler life; it is strongly hinted that The Master is the reason why Orpheus' life became so convoluted and may have ruined his marriage. He may have done this again with Orpheus' daughter Triana after she decided to live with her mother and Step-father step-father to learn to become a sorceress.
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* InkSuitActor: Zig-zagged on a couple of levels. First, Pete and Billy look a lot like creators Doc Hammer and Chris McCulloch (AKA Jackson Publick) respectively, with added deformities (Pete being an albino while Billy is a hydrocephalic). The "Zig" comes in because each character is voiced by the ''other'' creator. The "Zag" come from the series' official artbook, in which the creators say that it's purely coincidental.

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* InkSuitActor: Zig-zagged on a couple of levels. First, Pete and Billy look a lot like creators Doc Hammer and Chris McCulloch [=McCulloch=] (AKA Jackson Publick) respectively, with added deformities (Pete being an albino while Billy is a hydrocephalic). The "Zig" comes in because each character is voiced by the ''other'' creator. The "Zag" come from the series' official artbook, in which the creators say that it's purely coincidental.
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->''"So, I taste my own genitals... In my mouth. It's.. a conundrum"''
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->'''The Master''': ''[to Triana]'' OK listen, I’m the Master. I’m like your dad’s omniscient boss.

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* OutOfFocus: He is much less likely to appear outside of the Triad-focused episodes than Orpheus or even Al, who gets more appearances once he starts dating Shore Leave.



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Another old friend of Dr. Orpheus, who is searching for the philosopher's stone ("as a metaphor for enlightenment") as well as a cure for AIDS. Unlike Twilight and Orpheus, it would seem that he is much less serious about his business and would rather mix business with pleasure; however, his true opinion on the Triad was revealed in the episode "Showdown at Cremation Creek", where he stated that he was more into helping the balance of the Universe than running around fighting one Super-Villain. It has been openly acknowledged that he is gay and a fan of Jimmy Buffett. He is sometimes referred to as "Al", but whether this is his real name or merely short for Alchemist is uncertain. He has an open hatred of the internet due to finding out his boyfriend was cheating on him via Website/MySpace. At least that's what he thinks happened after an O.S.I. mindwipe. Actually, ''he's'' the one who broke up with his boyfriend after he met Shore Leave.

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Another old friend of Dr. Orpheus, who the Alchemist is a mystical sorcerer searching for the philosopher's stone ("as a metaphor for enlightenment") as well as a cure for AIDS. Unlike Twilight and Orpheus, it would seem that he He is much less openly gay, the least serious about his business and would rather mix business with pleasure; however, his true opinion on the Triad was revealed in the episode "Showdown at Cremation Creek", where he stated that he was more into helping the balance overall of the Universe than running around fighting one Super-Villain. It has been openly acknowledged that he is gay group about the Triad's activities, and a fan of Jimmy Buffett. He is sometimes referred to as often goes by "Al", but whether this is though it's unclear if it's his real name or merely short for Alchemist is uncertain. He has an open hatred of the internet due to finding out his boyfriend was cheating on him via Website/MySpace. At least that's what he thinks happened after an O.S.I. mindwipe. Actually, ''he's'' the one who broke up with his boyfriend after he met Shore Leave."Alchemist".






* CampGay: Downplayed, as he overall acts more StraightGay, but he does have his "campy" moments, especially around Shoreleave. It's also ironic as he is the one member of the Order of the Triad who also sees how utterly ''silly'' the trappings of super-heroism are and constantly busts Dr. Orpheus's balls whenever he starts taking things too seriously.
-->'''The Alchemist''': ''"But being a magic superhero that keeps chasing the same guy? It's completely gay. And that is coming from a guy that voluntarily has sex with men!"''
* DeadpanSnarker: Typically in response to Dr. O's LargeHam antics.

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* CampGay: Downplayed, as he overall acts more StraightGay, but he does have his "campy" moments, especially around Shoreleave.Shore Leave. It's also ironic as he is the one member of the Order of the Triad who also sees how utterly ''silly'' the trappings of super-heroism are and constantly busts Dr. Orpheus's balls whenever he starts taking things too seriously.
-->'''The Alchemist''': ''"But being a magic superhero that keeps chasing the same guy? It's completely gay. And that is coming from a guy that voluntarily has sex with men!"''
* DeadpanSnarker: Typically in response to Dr. O's Orpheus' LargeHam antics.antics, especially whenever he starts taking the whole "magic heroes/villains" thing too seriously.



* {{Foil}}: To Orpheus. Even more apparent when they move in together.
* FriendToAllChildren: More like teenagers, since he seems to get along nicely with Triana and Hank, and the two of them enjoying his company as well. Probably due to his slightly immature behavior, at least with Hank.
* KavorkaMan: Is, by his own admission, a "paunchy, middle-aged gay guy who likes Jimmy Buffet," yet is still able to attract the much younger, sexier Shore Leave.

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* EveryoneCallsHimBarkeep: He isn't given a name other than "The Alchemist". He is sometimes called "Al" for short, but it's unclear if it's his real name or merely short for "Alchemist"
* {{Foil}}: To Orpheus. Even more apparent when they move in together.
Both are experienced magic-users and genuinely {{Nice Guy}}s, but while Orpheus wants to play "heroes/villains" against a recurring ArchEnemy, Al would rather use his abilities on "bringing balance to the universe" kind of stuff and doing things that will benefit many, like finding a cure for AIDS. Al has trouble taking the former activity seriously as a result.
* FriendToAllChildren: More like teenagers, since he seems to get but still in the spirit of the trope. He gets along nicely with Triana and Hank, and the two of them enjoying his company as well. Probably due to his slightly immature behavior, at least with Hank.
* KavorkaMan: Is, by his own admission, a "paunchy, middle-aged gay guy who likes Jimmy Buffet," yet is still able to attract the much younger, sexier Shore Leave.



* JewishSmartass: Revealed to be Jewish in the movie, and he's at least as snarky as the rest of the cast.
* {{Leitmotif}}: Okay, so it may have only been in one episode ("What Goes Down Must Come Up"), but when the triad is performing magic, it's implied that The Alchemist has one too. When Orpheus does some magic, his leitmotif plays and when The Alchemist does some magic immediately afterward, a little trumpet piece plays. And immediately after that, when it's Jefferson's turn and it's revealed that he has no magic to do, it's completely silent.
* LivingLieDetector: Mentioned in passing during "Everybody Comes To Hank's". It is apparently part of his mystical powers. (As it isn't terribly useful when fighting supernatural threats, he uses it for [[MundaneUtility mundane]] things like double-checking everyone he and Hank interviewed are telling the truth.)
* MoneyDearBoy: [[invoked]] While every member of the Triad signs up for having an arch-enemy for the excitement, the Alchemist also hopes it will procure interest and finding for his research.
* NiceGuy: DeadPanSnarker tendencies and the diabetic coma incident notwithstanding, Al is a supportive friend and great with kids.
* NotWhatISignedOnFor: Admits in a rather heated discussion amongst the three during ''Showdown at Cremation Creek'' that he thought that the reunited Order of the Triad would be going on more high-minded pursuits rather than chase after Torrid most of the time.
* OnlySaneMan: Frequently the voice of reason for the Order of the Triad.
* PrivateDetective: Becomes Hank's partner in the NoirEpisode.
* ReedRichardsIsUseless: Once turned someone's tire into gold. Why does he need to shack up with Orpheus, again?
* StraightGay: Downplayed. Maybe not the ''most'' straight-acting guy around, but he only sometimes acts particularly campy. You probably wouldn't guess he was gay if he never mentioned it.

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* JewishSmartass: Revealed to be Jewish in the movie, and he's at least as snarky as among the rest snarkiest of the cast.
* {{Leitmotif}}: Okay, so Though it may have only been appears in one episode ("What Goes Down Must Come Up"), but when the triad is performing magic, it's implied that The Alchemist has one too. When Orpheus does some magic, his leitmotif plays and when The Alchemist does some magic immediately afterward, a little trumpet piece plays. And immediately after that, when it's Jefferson's turn and it's revealed that he has no magic to do, it's completely silent.
* LivingLieDetector: Mentioned in passing during "Everybody Comes To Hank's". It Hank's", it is apparently part of his mystical powers. (As powerset. As it isn't terribly useful when fighting supernatural threats, he uses it for [[MundaneUtility mundane]] things like double-checking verifying everyone he and Hank interviewed interviews are telling the truth.)
truth.
* MoneyDearBoy: [[invoked]] NiceGuy: DeadPanSnarker tendencies and the diabetic coma incident notwithstanding, Al is a supportive friend and great with kids. While every he thinks chasing around "the same guy" as a SupernaturalTeam is silly, he will gladly pitch in when lives are on the line.
* NotWhatISignedOnFor: Admits in a rather heated discussion amongst the three during "Showdown at Cremation Creek" that he thought that the reunited Order of the Triad would be going on more high-minded pursuits rather than chase after the same villain in a "cops and robbers" game.
* OnlyInItForTheMoney: Downplayed as, while each
member of the Triad signs up for having an arch-enemy for the excitement, the Alchemist also hopes it will procure interest and finding for his research.
* NiceGuy: DeadPanSnarker tendencies and the diabetic coma incident notwithstanding, Al is a supportive friend and great with kids.
* NotWhatISignedOnFor: Admits in a rather heated discussion amongst the three during ''Showdown at Cremation Creek'' that he thought that the reunited Order of the Triad would be going on more high-minded pursuits rather than chase after Torrid most of the time.
*
OnlySaneMan: Frequently the voice of reason for the Order of the Triad.
Triad, especially when Orpheus starts getting a little too into their "hero/villain" activities.
* PrivateDetective: Becomes Hank's partner in the NoirEpisode.
NoirEpisode "Everybody Come to Hank's", mostly due to boredom, but later gets into solving the mystery of Dermott's parentage.
* PsiBlast: His primary means of magic attack, firing blasts similar to Orpheus.
* ReedRichardsIsUseless: Once turned someone's Uses magic to turn a tire into gold.gold in "Operation P.R.O.M.". Why does he need to shack up with Orpheus, again?
* StraightGay: Downplayed. Maybe not the ''most'' straight-acting guy around, but he only sometimes acts particularly campy. You probably wouldn't guess he was gay if he never mentioned it.didn't bring it up. He rarely acts campy, mostly only while he's dating [[MachoCamp Shore Leave]].
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* ADayInTheLimelight: While the Triad appears in smaller roles throughout much of the series, they tend to get a dedicated episode about OnceASeason. To note:
** Season two's "Fallen Arches" sees Dr. Orpheus get approved by the Guild of Calmitous Intent for an official ArchEnemy, but as a "team". He recruits Al and Jefferson to join him as they interview potential candidates.
** Season three's "What Goes Down, Must Come Up" has the Venture boys call in the Triad after their father and Brock disappear.
** Season four's "The Better Man" sees them in action against Torrid, only for the Outider, Orpheus' former student and the man who stole his wife, get involved.
** After being PutOnABus for seasons five and six, they return to play a large role in the season seven opening "Morphic Trilogy" of episodes as they attempt to quell a suspected poltergeist at [=VenTech=] Tower.



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An old friend of Dr. Orpheus. He is a black man who fights Blaculas (black vampires) for a living and wields two swords. He is a pastiche of the superhero Blade and the blaxploitation movie protagonist, Shaft. As a play on Blade's half-vampire thirst for blood or an artificial replacement, Jefferson Twilight suffers from diabetes and low blood sugar, leading him to heavily thirst for sugared liquids, such as Nik-L-Nips. His left eye is discolored as it is a magical Blacula tracker he calls the "Blood Eye." The episode "What Goes Down, Must Come Up" revealed a lot of his BackStory. For example: his mother was taken by marauding Blaculas when he was ten, and he was a tank commander in the Marines.

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An old friend of Dr. Orpheus. He Orpheus, Jefferson is a black man who fights Blaculas "Blaculas" (black vampires) for a living and wields two swords. He is a living. A pastiche of the superhero Blade and the blaxploitation movie protagonist, Shaft. As a play on Blade's half-vampire thirst for blood or an artificial replacement, Jefferson Twilight suffers from diabetes Shaft, he wields two swords and low blood sugar, leading him to heavily thirst for sugared liquids, such as Nik-L-Nips. dresses like its the 1970s (among other borrowed traits). His left eye is discolored as it is a magical Blacula tracker he calls the "Blood Eye." The episode "What Goes Down, Must Come Up" revealed Eye", but he otherwise possesses no magical ability, something he laments as a lot member of his BackStory. For example: his mother was taken by marauding Blaculas when he was ten, and he was a tank commander in the Marines.magic-oriented Order of the Triad.






* BuffySpeak: Starkly contrasts the grandiose speaking style of Dr. Orpheus.
* CaptainErsatz: Of ComicBook/{{Blade}} the Vampire Hunter. Also with a dash of John Film/{{Shaft}}.
* CripplingOverspecialization: He often complains about the fact that there are no Blaculas for him to fight, and implies that he'd be lost if he came up against a non-black vampire. However, it's later revealed that he is a former army vet and has a ton of practical skills such as the ability to drive a tank. He is also revealed to be "between worlds" which... is also pretty specialized, though does come in handy a couple of times.
--> '''Dr. Orpheus:''' Let us ''try'' to get a psychic lock on them. I SHALL SHINE THE LIGHT OF THELOS!

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* BladeEnthusiast: Uses a pair of katanas as his primary weapons. Given that he's not magical in any way that's useful once the fighting has started, these allow him to pull his weight in a FightsLikeANormal-fashion among the otherwise mystical Triad members.
* BoringButPractical: He's the only non-magic member of a magical SupernaturalTeam who typically fights other magic-users, leaving him at a major disadvantage. However, he can swing a mean sword and was in the marines, giving him some practical abilities, like knowing how to drink a tank.
* BuffySpeak: Starkly contrasts In stark contrast the grandiose speaking style of Dr. Orpheus.
Orpheus, Jefferson has a tendency to stammer and use crude wording to describe the mind-blowingly weird situations the Triad encounters.
--> '''Jefferson''': [The Outrider] brought me back to life! I'm serious, I saw my dead mom and she was all "Jefferson, head into the light". And I was like "I can't mom, I have to stay here and get my ass kicked by a guy made out of fire"!
* CaptainErsatz: Of A pastiche of ComicBook/{{Blade}} the Vampire Hunter. Also with a dash of Hunter (two swords, mother killed by vampires, unusual cravings) and John Film/{{Shaft}}.
Film/{{Shaft}} (hair, attire, persona while actively hunting Blaculas).
* CripplingOverspecialization: He often complains about the fact that there are no Blaculas for him to fight, fight and implies that he'd be lost if he came up against a non-black vampire. However, it's later revealed that he is a former army vet marine veteran and has a ton of practical BoringButPractical skills as a result, such as the ability to drive a tank. He is also revealed to be "between worlds" which... is also pretty specialized, though does come in handy a couple of times.
* ADayInTheLimelight: While the Triad as a whole get a dedicated episode about OnceASeason, season three's "What Goes Down, Must Come Up" reveals the most about Jefferson's BackStory.
* DeadpanSnarker: One of the most deadpan on the show. Most often surfaces when Orpheus and Al are going full ChewingTheScenery in regards to their use of magic, while he has to remind them that he can't use it.
--> '''Dr. Orpheus:''' Let us ''try'' to get a psychic lock on them. ''[[LargeHam I SHALL SHINE THE LIGHT OF THELOS!THELOS]]''!



--> '''Jefferson:''' I'll, uh... check for Blaculas. ''*beat*'' Nope! No Blaculas!
* DeadpanSnarker: One of the most deadpan on the show.

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--> '''Jefferson:''' I'll, uh... check for Blaculas. ''*beat*'' Nope! No Blaculas!
* DeadpanSnarker: One of the most deadpan on the show.
Nope, no Blaculas!



* EmpoweredBadassNormal: Originally the only non-mystical member of the Triad. Later on he's revealed to be "between worlds" (possibly as a result of dying and being brought back to life by the Outrider in the same episode), which, while impressive, is also an incredibly specific ability.
* FightsLikeANormal: He has two powers, and neither of them actually help him in a fight. Good thing he's an expert swordsman.

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* EmpoweredBadassNormal: Originally the only non-mystical member of the Triad. Later on on, he's revealed to be "between worlds" (possibly as a result of dying and being brought back to life by the Outrider in the same episode), "The Better Man"), which, while impressive, is also an ability [[CripplingOverspecialization with incredibly limited and specific ability.
uses]].
* FightsLikeANormal: He has two powers, powers ("Blood Eye" Blacula detection and being "between worlds"), neither of them which actually help him in a fight. Good thing he's an expert swordsman.



* TheLoad: He considers himself this in the Order of the Triad, being little more than a guy with swords in most situations while his companions have much more versatile magic powers. He does cheer up after the "between worlds" revelation, though.
* MagicalEye: Has a "Blood Eye" that allows him to track and hunt Blaculas.

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* TheLoad: He considers himself this in the Order of the Triad, Triad in most situations, being little more than a guy with swords in most situations while his companions have much more versatile magic powers. He does cheer up after the "between worlds" revelation, though.
though its still a [[CripplingOverspecialization pretty niche ability]].
* MagicalEye: Has a discolored "Blood Eye" that allows him to track and hunt Blaculas.Blaculas. Apparently, if he finds Blaculas but doesn't get to kill them, he gets an equivalent of "blue balls" in it.



* SweetTooth: As a play on ComicBook/{{Blade}}'s half-vampire thirst for blood (or an artificial replacement), Jefferson suffers from diabetes and low blood sugar, leading him to heavily thirst for sugared liquids, such as Nik-L-Nips.



* VampireHunter: Of Blackulas, after watching his mother get taken by them when he was 10.
* WeaksauceWeakness: In a world with real magic, super-powered heroes and villains, and actual mythical creatures, Jefferson's weakness is ''diabetes.'' He's also the only non-magical person a team of magic users that often fights ''other'' magic users.

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* VampireHunter: Of Blackulas, after watching his mother get taken by them when he was 10.
10. He admits that he'd be lost if he came up against a non-black vampire, however.
* WeaksauceWeakness: In a world with real magic, super-powered heroes and villains, and actual mythical creatures, Jefferson's weakness is ''diabetes.'' ''diabetes''. He's also the only non-magical person a team of magic users that often fights ''other'' magic users.

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* ArchEnemy: The get a Guild-sanctioned one in Torrid. Orpheus actually ''wanted'' their own Guild-sanctioned arch-enemy, to the point of hosting tryouts for the position in "Fallen Arches". Torrid emerged as the winner by kidnapping Orpheus's daughter Triana, and the Triad are shown battling him a few times in future episodes.

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* ArchEnemy: The They get a Guild-sanctioned one in Torrid. Orpheus actually ''wanted'' their own Guild-sanctioned arch-enemy, to the point of hosting tryouts for the position in "Fallen Arches". Torrid emerged as the winner by kidnapping Orpheus's daughter Triana, and the Triad are shown battling him a few times in future episodes.




* MysticalHighCollar: Since he's an {{Expy}} of Comicbook/DoctorStrange and wears the same outfit.
* {{Necromancer}}: Yes, and a benevolent one at that.
** Interestingly, while he is a capable necromancer in both the original and popular sense of the word[[note]]communing with the dead and raising the dead, respectively[[/note]], he clarifies that the actual magic of necromancy isn't his preferred practice. He explains that most terms for a magic-user have become cliché or fallen out of favor in modern times, so he simply goes by "necromancer" not to seem silly.

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\n* MysticalHighCollar: Since he's an {{Expy}} of Comicbook/DoctorStrange and wears the same outfit.
outfit, he has one on his cloak.
* {{Necromancer}}: Yes, and a benevolent one at that.
**
that. Interestingly, while he is a capable necromancer in both the original and popular sense of the word[[note]]communing with the dead and raising the dead, respectively[[/note]], he clarifies that the actual magic of necromancy isn't his preferred practice. He explains that most terms for a magic-user (magician, wizard, sorcerer, etc.) have become cliché or fallen out of favor in modern times, so he simply goes by "necromancer" not to seem silly.



* NiceGuy: Seriously, he's the nicest guy in the show. And a good dad, too, at least compared to all the other ones on the show. (but repeatedly wiping his daughter's memories of the portal to another dimension in her closet is quite the exception to this.)
* NoIndoorVoice: Constantly shouts over a blaring, overly dramatic soundtrack.
-->'''Orpheus:''' Do not be too hasty in entering that [bath]room, I had '''TACO BELL for lunch!'''

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* NiceGuy: Seriously, he's the nicest guy in the show. And Friendly to everyone, good with the boys, a good dad, too, at least compared dad to all the other ones on the show. (but repeatedly wiping his daughter's memories of the portal own daughter, always willing to another dimension help out with whatever adventure/disaster is unfolding without expecting something in her closet is quite the exception to this.)
return...
* NoIndoorVoice: Constantly shouts over a blaring, overly dramatic soundtrack.
His main tone is loud and dramatic, usually accompanied by his swelling {{Leitmotif}}, even when he's just conversing normally.
-->'''Orpheus:''' Do not be too hasty in entering that [bath]room, I had '''TACO BELL BELL''' for lunch!'''lunch!



* NotThatKindOfDoctor: Not any kind of doctor, actually. He's only got a Bachelor's Degree in communications, though he claims to have been granted a doctorate by his master.

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* NotThatKindOfDoctor: Not any kind of doctor, actually. He's only got a Bachelor's Degree in communications, though he claims to have been granted a doctorate the title by his master."a higher power".



* OutOfFocus: Orpheus was a major supporting character throughout the first three seasons but was scaled back, almost to the point of absence in the first half of season four. He gets some more focus mid-late season four but is once again out of focus in the first half of season five, getting only one brief appearance, and aside from a mention or two, is ''completely absent'' in season six. His (and the Triad's) return in the season 7 premiere reveals they had been living in a motel ever since the Venture Compound burned down during "All This and Gargantua-2", though now they plan to buy a brownstone in Manhattan. One with a "Doctor Strange window".[[note]]The very real First Warsaw Congregation synagogue in the Lower East Side.[[/note]] He does however play a major supporting role in the FinaleMovie.
* PapaWolf: For both his own daughter and The Venture Brothers.
* ParentalNeglect: As much as he hates it, Orpheus admits he wasn't much better at being a father than he was at being a husband. He loves his daughter dearly but is too focused on mastering his magic and his duties to really be there for her as much as he should be.
* PowerAtAPrice: In a sense. The Outrider admits that between them, Orpheus is the better magician, but the time spent honing his skills cost him his relationship with his wife.
* PoweredByAForsakenChild: Didn't have anything to do with the incident, but [[TropeNamer named the trope.]]
* TokenWizard: He's the go-to guy the Venture Family call whenever something supernatural happens.

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* OutOfFocus: Orpheus was a major supporting character throughout the first three seasons but was scaled back, almost to the point of absence in the first half of season four. He gets some more focus mid-late season four but is once again out of focus in the first half of season five, getting only one brief appearance, and aside from a mention or two, is ''completely absent'' in season six. His (and the Triad's) return in the season 7 premiere reveals they had been living in a motel ever since the Venture Compound burned down during "All This and Gargantua-2", though now they plan to buy a brownstone in Manhattan. One Manhattan, one with a "Doctor Strange window".[[note]]The very real First Warsaw Congregation synagogue in the Lower East Side.[[/note]] He does however returns to play a major supporting role in the FinaleMovie.
* PapaWolf: For both his own daughter and The he Venture Brothers.
brothers. He may otherwise be an ultimate NiceGuy, but mess with them, and you'll find yourself on the bad side of a dead-raising, soul-trapping "master of mysticism".
* ParentalNeglect: As much as he hates it, Orpheus admits he wasn't much better at being a father than he was at being a husband. He loves his daughter dearly but is too focused on mastering his magic and his duties to really be there for her as much as he should be.
be, and is an {{Amazingly Embarrassing Parent|s}} even when he is.
* PowerAtAPrice: In a sense. The Outrider admits that between them, Orpheus is the better magician, sorcerer, but [[HardWorkHardlyWorks the time spent honing his skills craft]] cost him his relationship with his wife.
* PoweredByAForsakenChild: Didn't have anything His disgusted reaction to do with Dr. Venture's use of "(half) an orphan" when constructing the incident, but "[[LotusEaterMachine Joy Can]]" [[TropeNamer named the trope.]]
trope]].
* TokenWizard: He's the Venture family's go-to guy the Venture Family to call whenever something supernatural happens.happens, like quelling the angry spirits [[IndianBurialGround buried beneath the X-1 hangar]] and when [=VenTech=] Tower appears to be haunted.



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A magical super-team headed by Doc's Tenant Dr. Byron Orpheus.
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[[folder:The Order in General]]




A magical super-team headed by Dr. Venture's tenant, Dr. Byron Orpheus. They're typically brought in when Team Venture is dealing with threats and mysteries of the supernatural variety.
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* ArchEnemy: The get a Guild-sanctioned one in Torrid. Orpheus actually ''wanted'' their own Guild-sanctioned arch-enemy, to the point of hosting tryouts for the position in "Fallen Arches". Torrid emerged as the winner by kidnapping Orpheus's daughter Triana, and the Triad are shown battling him a few times in future episodes.



* EyeOfProvidence: Their sigil.
* OldSuperhero: Each member of the Triad are middle-aged. While they seem to be physically and mentally fit enough to qualify for their own arch-enemy, the Alchemist rightfully points out that they are too old to keep up the whole "cops and robbers" schtick arching entails for long.
* SupernaturalTeam: In contrast to the "Super-Science" angle of the Venture family at large, each member of the Order are in some way involved with the supernatural.

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* EyeOfProvidence: Their Appears in their sigil.
* OldSuperhero: Each member of the Triad are is middle-aged. While they seem to be are physically and mentally fit enough to qualify for their own arch-enemy, the Alchemist rightfully points out that they are too old to keep up the whole "cops and robbers" schtick arching entails for long.
* SupernaturalTeam: In contrast to the "Super-Science" "super-science" angle of the Venture family at large, and their other allies, each member of the Order are in some way involved with the supernatural.



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Necromancer extraordinaire Dr. Byron Orpheus has the tendency to speak in a ringing, melodramatic tone, often at inappropriate times and [[{{Leitmotif}} usually accompanied by dramatic music]]. Dr. Orpheus is divorced and has one child (Triana Orpheus). Currently living in the back of the Venture Compound, in the old Advanced Arachnid Research Lab with his daughter. Although he calls himself 'Doctor', he only has a degree in Communications with a minor in Women's Studies from a community college. He does, however, claim that his title comes from a higher power. He can be an absent-minded parent, but he means well.

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Necromancer extraordinaire
Dr. Byron Orpheus is a necromancer and master of mysticism who has the tendency to speak in a ringing, melodramatic tone, often at inappropriate times and [[{{Leitmotif}} times, usually accompanied by dramatic music]].music. Dr. Orpheus is divorced and has one child (Triana Orpheus). Currently living in the back of the Venture Compound, in a daughter, Triana. He rents the old Advanced "Advanced Arachnid Research Lab with his daughter. Although he calls himself 'Doctor', he only has a degree in Communications with a minor in Women's Studies Research" section of the compound from a community college. He does, however, claim that his title comes from a higher power. He can be an absent-minded parent, but he means well.Dr. Venture and tends to join in on the family's adventures when they involve supernatural elements.



* AbusiveParents: Although he dearly loves Triana and wouldn't harm a hair on her head, he's not above wiping her memory when convenient. In their old apartment he did this regularly since the portal to the nether dimension was in her closet.
* ActuallyNotAVampire: Dr. Orpheus is easily mistaken for "a Dracula."

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* AbusiveParents: Although he dearly loves Triana and wouldn't directly harm a hair on her head, he's not above wiping her memory when convenient. In their old apartment he did this regularly since the portal to the nether dimension was in her closet.
* ActuallyNotAVampire: Dr. Orpheus is easily mistaken for "a Dracula."Dracula", as the boys did in his introductory episode. The cloak, hair, and use of magic make it an easy mistake to make.



* AlwaysSomeoneBetter: The Outrider, who his wife left him for. Orpheus has trained his entire life just to "perceive that there is a second world," while the Outrider can travel through it. (This too, eventually inverses itself in a way, when it is shown that the Outrider cheated to obtain his powers while Orpheus' master admits that Orpheus is truly his best student.)
* AmazinglyEmbarrassingParents: Triana usually handles his theatrics pretty well, but he can make quite a scene when he suspects someone is hitting on his daughter.
-->'''Dr. Orpheus:''' "I'm sorry, Pumpkin. I trust you to defend your honor, it's just that- '''''MY PUMPKIN'S MAIDENHEAD IS NOT A PRIZE TO BE-'''''"
-->'''Triana:''' "''Dad!'''"
-->'''Dr. Orpheus:''' "*clears throat*"
** To be fair, that single most embarrassing expression was exclaimed in ''A Very Venture Christmas'' as part of Rusty's dream─though it is not completely unrealistic to think he might say so.
* AntiquatedLinguistics: Will throw out some rather archaic terms, particularly during some of his more dramatic speeches. Combine it with his LargeHam tendencies and swelling {{Leitmotif}}, [[MundaneMadeAwesome anything he says sounds more dramatic]]. Such as when simply giving the "the birds and the bees" speech to his daughter:
--> '''Dr. Orpheus:''' Hear me out! [clears throat] When young women reach estrus, the, uhh, lingam, ummm, craves theeee stamen-like skills of the yoni. This is quite natural. [[note]]He is so embarrassed by the subject that he gets his biology exactly wrong: the lingam is the human equivalent of the stamen, the yoni of the pistil. 'Lingam' and 'yoni' are not so much antiquated as exotic, being the Sanskrit terms that might be familiar to Orpheus from tantric writings or other subcontinental works.)[[/note]]

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* AlwaysSomeoneBetter: The Outrider, a former student of his who his wife left him for.to be with. Orpheus has trained his entire life just to "perceive that there is a second world," while the Outrider can travel through it. (This too, This eventually inverses itself in a way, when it is shown that the Outrider cheated to obtain his powers while Orpheus' master admits that Orpheus is truly his best student.)
student.
* AmazinglyEmbarrassingParents: Triana usually handles his theatrics pretty well, but he can make quite a scene when he suspects someone is hitting on his daughter.
-->'''Dr. Orpheus:''' "I'm sorry, Pumpkin. I trust you
daughter or is trying to defend your honor, it's just that- '''''MY PUMPKIN'S MAIDENHEAD IS NOT A PRIZE TO BE-'''''"
-->'''Triana:''' "''Dad!'''"
-->'''Dr. Orpheus:''' "*clears throat*"
** To be fair, that single most embarrassing expression was exclaimed in ''A Very Venture Christmas'' as part of Rusty's dream─though it is not completely unrealistic to think he might say so.
give her TheTalk.
* AntiquatedLinguistics: Will throw out some rather archaic terms, particularly during some of his more dramatic speeches. Combine it with his LargeHam tendencies and swelling {{Leitmotif}}, [[MundaneMadeAwesome anything he says automatically sounds more dramatic]]. Such as when simply giving the "the birds and the bees" speech TheTalk to his daughter:
--> '''Dr. Orpheus:''' Hear me out! [clears throat] ''[clears throat]'' When young women reach estrus, the, uhh, lingam, ummm, craves theeee stamen-like skills of the yoni. This is quite natural. [[note]]He is so embarrassed by the subject that he gets his biology exactly wrong: the lingam is the human equivalent of the stamen, the yoni of the pistil. 'Lingam' and 'yoni' are not so much antiquated as exotic, being the Sanskrit terms that might be familiar to Orpheus from tantric writings or other subcontinental works.)[[/note]]



--> '''Dr. Orpheus:''' It's just that boys at their age have unchecked desires coursing- nay, ''RAGING AS A TEMPEST WOULD!!'' Through their ''tingling nethers!''
* ArchEnemy: He spends the first season pining for one, and is eventually given one in the form of Torrid, who bears a physical resemblance to Comicbook/DoctorStrange's nemesis Dormammu, but little more.

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--> '''Dr. Orpheus:''' It's just that boys at their age have unchecked desires coursing- nay, ''RAGING '''RAGING AS A TEMPEST WOULD!!'' WOULD!!''' Through their ''tingling nethers!''
* ArchEnemy: He spends the first season pining for one, and is eventually given one in the form of Torrid, who bears a physical resemblance to Comicbook/DoctorStrange's nemesis Dormammu, but little more.earns the job during the Triad's "tryout" by kidnapping Triana.



* BackFromTheDead: It very rarely comes up about the plot besides a failed attempt to resurrect Hank and Dean, but as a necromancer, Orpheus is well-versed in communing with and reviving the dead. He boasts that he regularly performed resurrections on both David Blaine and Evel Knievel (also Ronald Reagan, until he bounced a check).
* BadPowersGoodPeople: Uses necromancy? Check. A good guy? Check. As well as the nicest character on the entire show? Check.
* BerserkButton: HIS DAUGHTER'S VIRGINITY IS NOT A PRIZE TO BE WON!

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* BackFromTheDead: It very rarely comes up about the plot besides a failed attempt to resurrect Hank and Dean, but as a necromancer, Orpheus is well-versed in communing with and reviving the dead. He boasts that he regularly performed resurrections on both David Blaine and Evel Knievel (also Ronald Reagan, until UsefulNotes/RonaldReagan, "until he bounced a check).
check").
* BadPowersGoodPeople: Uses necromancy? Check. A good guy? Check. As well He introduces himself as a necromancer, and though he functions as a more general sorcerer, he is capable of raising the dead. Despite this, he's not only a "good" person, but one of the downright nicest character on in the entire show? Check.
series.
* BerserkButton: HIS Anyone hitting on his daughter is sure to set off his loudest and hammiest retorts.
--> '''Dr. Orpheus''': MY
DAUGHTER'S VIRGINITY IS NOT A PRIZE TO BE WON!



-->"''That houses the souls of two FOUL-MOUTHED REDNECKS!!''"
* CaptainErsatz: Of Comicbook/DoctorStrange.
* CatchPhrase: "'Kay..." Usually in situations where things have gotten so weird, even by his standards, he can't even be dramatic anymore.
* TheCobblersChildrenHaveNoShoes: He's pretty good at giving others advice, and fairly down to Earth when it comes to everyone's problems but his own, in which he's near-constantly met with failure. He studied Women's Studies in college but his wife left him for one of his students.
* DarkIsNotEvil: In fact, he's one of the most morally ''decent'' people on the show.
* DeadpanSnarker: In sharp contrast to his LargeHam behavior, he can get incredibly sarcastic, usually with people who are ignorant or presumptuous about magic or when someone teases him about his ex-wife.
-->'''Dr. Orpheus:''' "Ahh, ''no''. I don't miss her ''astounding'' beauty '''''daily'''''."
* DramaPreservingHandicap: Once the show starts playing for keeps when it comes to death after Season 3, Orpheus suddenly becomes immensely disinclined to perform necromancy.
* {{Foil}}: To Rusty.
** In many respects, he is the opposite of Rusty--even aside from the obvious "magic versus science" angle. Rusty is notoriously lazy and coasts on his inheritance and childhood fame and fortune, while Orpheus is a workaholic who earned his powers through great study and practice. Rusty is a notoriously unflappable DeadpanSnarker, while Orpheus is a dramatic LargeHam who treats even the smallest actions as a big deal. Rusty is self-centered to the extreme and rarely does anything without a profit motive, while Orpheus is incredibly moral and describes himself as a world protector. Rusty hates being involved in the nonsense of the Guild and the Monarch, while Orpheus actively sought out an archvillain and takes genuine pleasure in his adventures.
** He contrasts Rusty's terrible parenting by being a good father to Triana. His intro episode shows him recording a message just to let her know he's popped over to the other side of the compound for a bit, but she can have one of the puddings in the fridge. He's very involved, but not smothering. Meanwhile, Rusty causes the boys to get into trouble by angrily shooing them away every time he sees them, and has socially crippled them to the point that Dean's attempts to talk to Triana are incredibly pathetic even by teen-boy-with-a-crush standards.

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-->"''That -->'''Dr. Orpheus''': That houses the souls of two FOUL-MOUTHED REDNECKS!!''"
''FOUL-MOUTHED REDNECKS''!!
* CaptainErsatz: Of Comicbook/DoctorStrange.
* CatchPhrase: "'Kay..." Usually in situations where things have gotten so weird, even by his standards, he can't even be dramatic anymore.
Comicbook/DoctorStrange, being a sorcerer and master of mysticism who wears a cloak.
* TheCobblersChildrenHaveNoShoes: He's pretty good at giving others advice, and fairly down to Earth when it comes to everyone's problems but his own, in which he's near-constantly met with failure. He studied minored in Women's Studies in college but his wife left him for one of his students.
* DarkIsNotEvil: In fact, A self-proclaimed necromancer who typically wears a black cloak and is often [[ActuallyNotAVampire mistaken for a vampire]], it can be quite the shock that he's one of the most morally ''decent'' people on the show.
* DeadpanSnarker: In sharp contrast to his LargeHam behavior, he can get incredibly witheringly sarcastic, usually with people who are ignorant or presumptuous about magic or when someone teases him about his ex-wife.
-->'''Dr. Orpheus:''' "Ahh, Ahh, ''no''. I don't miss her ''astounding'' beauty '''''daily'''''."
'''''daily'''''.
* DramaPreservingHandicap: Once the show starts playing for keeps when it comes to death after Season 3, season three, Orpheus suddenly becomes immensely disinclined to perform necromancy.
* {{Foil}}: To Rusty.
Rusty in multiple ways. To note:
** In many respects, he is the opposite of Rusty--even aside from the obvious "magic versus science" MagicVersusScience angle. Rusty is notoriously lazy and coasts on his inheritance and childhood fame and fortune, while Orpheus is a workaholic who earned his powers through great study and practice. Rusty is a notoriously unflappable jaded and cynical DeadpanSnarker, while Orpheus is a dramatic LargeHam who treats even the smallest actions as a big deal. Rusty is self-centered to the extreme and rarely does anything without a profit motive, while Orpheus is incredibly moral and describes himself as a world protector.protector of the mortal realm. Rusty hates being involved in the nonsense of the Guild and the Monarch, while Orpheus actively sought out an archvillain and takes genuine pleasure in his adventures.
** He contrasts Rusty's terrible parenting by being a good father to Triana. His intro episode shows him recording a message just to let her know he's popped over to the other side of the compound for a bit, but she can have one of the puddings in the fridge. He's very involved, but not smothering. Meanwhile, Rusty causes the boys to get into trouble by angrily shooing them away every time he sees them, and has socially crippled them to the point that Dean's attempts to talk to Triana are incredibly pathetic even by teen-boy-with-a-crush standards. However, it's later revealed that his workaholism tends to get in the way despite his good intentions.



* HardWorkHardlyWorks: Zig-zagged between he and the Outrider. While the Outrider gained an ability Orpheus cannot, he cheated to get it, but in doing so, made time to spend with his wife (Orpheus' ex-wife). Both the Outrider and The Master admit that Orpheus is the superior sorcerer.
* InsistentTerminology: Orpheus habitually refers to Rusty as "Mr. Venture" rather than "Dr. Venture." (Of course, Rusty's actual credentials as a doctor are dubious at best.) Doubles as HypocriticalHumor since Orpheus' own "Dr." title is not from any recognized education institution.
* KindheartedCatLover: Particularly in ''[[Recap/TheVentureBrosS2E10IKnowWhyTheCagedBirdKills I Know Why The Caged Bird Kills]]'', where he's first seen snuggling his cat ("Who's a pretty pretty pussycat? Yes, you are!"), and only gets a little sarcastic at it when it gets startled by the doorbell and claws him. Later, he looks absolutely ''delighted'' to be waking up on a dirty motel floor after a beatdown by Myra, because her cats are swarming him affectionately.
-->''"They smell '''my''' cat!"''
* LargeHam: He cannot ''stop'' being a ham, making bombastic speeches with AntiquatedLinguistics over a swelling {{Leitmotif}} tends to have that effect. The only time he isn't being one of these is when he's delivering [[DeadpanSnarker withering sarcasm]].
* {{Leitmotif}}: This plays whenever he's in extra LargeHam mode, which is quite often. It's loud and swelling, befitting a dramatic LargeHam.

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* HardWorkHardlyWorks: Zig-zagged between he and the Outrider. While the Outrider gained an ability Orpheus cannot, he cheated to get it, but in doing so, made time to spend with his wife (Orpheus' ex-wife). Both the Outrider and The Master admit that Orpheus is the superior sorcerer.
sorcerer, but sacrificed too much to get there.
* HistoricalInJoke: UsefulNotes/RonaldReagan famously believed in astrology and the occult. Dr. Orpheus claims that Reagan was once his client, "until he bounced a check".
* InsistentTerminology: Orpheus habitually refers to Rusty as "Mr. Venture" rather than "Dr. Venture." (Of course, Venture", owing to Rusty's actual credentials as a doctor are [[PhonyDegree dubious at best.) doctorate]]. Doubles as HypocriticalHumor since Orpheus' own "Dr." title is not from any recognized education institution.
institution, but was apparently "bestowed by a higher power".
* KindheartedCatLover: Particularly in ''[[Recap/TheVentureBrosS2E10IKnowWhyTheCagedBirdKills I "I Know Why The Caged Bird Kills]]'', Kills", where he's first seen snuggling his cat ("Who's a pretty pretty pussycat? Yes, you are!"), and only gets a little sarcastic at it when it gets startled by the doorbell and claws him. Later, he looks absolutely ''delighted'' to be waking up on a dirty motel floor after a beatdown by Myra, because her cats are swarming him affectionately.
-->''"They -->'''Dr. Orpheus''': Hee hee, they smell '''my''' cat!"''
''my'' cat!
* LargeHam: He cannot ''stop'' being a ham, making bombastic speeches with AntiquatedLinguistics and [[MilkingTheGiantCow wild gesturing]] over a swelling {{Leitmotif}} tends to have that effect. The only time he isn't being one of these is when he's delivering [[DeadpanSnarker withering sarcasm]].
* {{Leitmotif}}: This Has one that plays whenever he's in extra LargeHam mode, which is quite often. It's loud and swelling, befitting a dramatic LargeHam.one so dramatic.



* MistakenForGay: One time by a couple of rednecks (and he wasn't even wearing his cape that time), another time by Rusty. His fashion sense is a little flamboyant. Plus Rusty apparently finds it suspicious that Dr. Orpheus willingly spends time with him.
* MundaneMadeAwesome: Any time he ''RAISES HIS VOICE'' to deliver '''MUNDAAAAANE INFORMATION''' to the tune of SWELLING MUUUUSIC!

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* MistakenForGay: One time by By a couple of rednecks in "Return to Spider-Skull Island" (and he wasn't even wearing his cape that time), cape), and another time by Rusty. His fashion sense is a little flamboyant. Plus flamboyant, plus Rusty apparently finds it suspicious that Dr. Orpheus willingly spends time with him.
* MundaneMadeAwesome: Any time he ''RAISES HIS VOICE'' to deliver '''MUNDAAAAANE INFORMATION''' to the tune of SWELLING MUUUUSIC!'''''SWELLING MUUUUSIC'''''!



* MundaneUtility: He uses his powers as a powerful necromancer to cook frittatas, among other things.

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* MundaneUtility: He uses his powers as a powerful necromancer to cook frittatas, frittatas and rake leaves, among other things.things.

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* BrilliantButLazy: It is implied that he and White actually have some pretty decent skills between the two of them; they successfully cured Dean when he had a rare and embarrassing medical condition despite having no medical experience, and Billy reattached Rusty's arm after a Guild member ripped it off. However, they mostly just goof off in their spare time.
** If Pete is the 'Lazy' one, Billy is the 'Brilliant' one; by "The Diving Bell Vs. The Butter-Glider" he's guiding a miniaturized submarine through Rusty's vascular system, apparently from memory.
** As shown by "The Silent Partners", he's not lazy; he just never got his medical degrees and seemed to always regret it.
* ButtMonkey: Billy can never catch a break. What's even funnier is that he gets so much flak despite being the useful half of his duo.
* CatchPhrase: "High five!" It takes a few seasons until he stops being [[HighFiveLeftHanging left hanging]] all the time, but this surprisingly seems to have little to do with the metal hand, which he never seems to use to give anyone a painful high five. He's not trying to prank anyone, he just wants a high five.
* CowardlyLion: He's ''very'' easily scared ("Brock is training us to fight, so I'm doing what I do best, which is to secretly cower,") but when it gets down to it, he's very into the idea of being a hero. And he'll gladly try to take down ''Brock'' if pushed too far.

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\n* BrilliantButLazy: It is implied that he and White Though downplayed on the "Lazy" part, especially in comparison to Pete. Billy actually have some pretty decent skills between the two of them; they successfully cured Dean when he had a rare and embarrassing medical condition despite having no medical experience, and Billy does seem to be highly skilled surgeon. He fixed Dean's testicular torsion, reattached Rusty's arm after a Guild member ripped it off. However, they mostly just goof off arm, grafted Dragoon's head on to Red Mantle's body in their spare time.
** If Pete is the 'Lazy' one, Billy is the 'Brilliant' one; by "The Diving Bell Vs. The Butter-Glider" he's guiding
less-than-ideal conditions, guided a miniaturized submarine through Rusty's vascular system, apparently from memory.
** As shown
body to clear a clot, transplanted a gorilla's heart into a giant, and was lauded by the real doctors while working in a hospital at the start of "The Silent Partners", he's not lazy; Partners". While he just does spend a lot of time goofing off with Pete and engaging in nerdy activities (like looking for a secret code in the old "[[ShowWithinAShow Rusty Venture Show]]"), many of his failures (and hence "laziness") aren't actually his fault. (Pete cheated for him on Quizboys, causing him to get kicked off the show and the FCC to take his winnings that were supposed to be his college fund. Then when he did go to college while working for the O.S.I., he fails the mission and gets kicked out.) While he regrets never got getting his actual medical degrees degree, he never actually goes back to try on his own merit and seemed to always regret it.
only gets one via the Investors/Guild.
* ButtMonkey: Billy can never catch a break. He's teased, mocked, abused, and kidnapped to perform illegal surgeries repeatedly throughout the series. What's even funnier is that he gets so much flak despite being the useful ''useful'' half of his duo.
* CatchPhrase: "High five!" It takes a few seasons until he stops being getting [[HighFiveLeftHanging left hanging]] all the time, but this surprisingly seems to have little to do with the metal hand, which he never seems to use to give anyone a painful high five. He's not trying to prank anyone, he just wants a high five.
* CowardlyLion: He's ''very'' easily scared ("Brock is training us to fight, so I'm doing what I do best, which is to secretly cower,") but when it gets down to it, he's very into the idea of being a hero. And he'll gladly try He even manages to take down stun ''Brock'' if pushed too far.with a GroinAttack in "The Invisible Hand of Fate" flashback.



* EyepatchOfPower: Combined with the super-cool [[ArtificialLimbs mechanical hand]], he definitely has this sort of look. On the one hand, he's kind of a meek guy who rarely uses his full potential, but on the other, he really does pull off some seriously badass feats when necessary.
* HandicappedBadass: Capable of some pretty astounding scientific feats despite missing a hand and having no depth perception.
* HeroicWannabe: He ''really'' wants to be a costumed hero. He's also a timid nerd who's small enough to be thrown around like a football.
* HeterosexualLifePartners: With Pete.

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--> '''Billy''': ''(referring to Hank and Dean's learning beds)'' Those things are more outdated than Funk and Wagnalls!
* EyepatchOfPower: Combined with the super-cool [[ArtificialLimbs mechanical hand]], he definitely has this sort of look. On the Wears one hand, over his missing eye. While he's kind of a meek guy who rarely uses his full potential, but on the other, small and meek, he really does pull off some seriously badass feats when necessary.
necessary, especially when it comes to performing extreme medical procedures in less-than-ideal circumstances.
* HandicappedBadass: Capable of some pretty astounding scientific surgical feats despite missing having a metal hand and having no lack of depth perception.
perception due to a missing eye.
* HeroicWannabe: He ''really'' wants to be a costumed hero. He's also a small, timid nerd who's small enough who fully admits to be thrown around like a football.
* HeterosexualLifePartners: With Pete.
"cowering" when situations turn dangerous.



* HonorBeforeReason: He was willing to restore Monstroso, first for the money, but then because of his doctor's honor. He was still willing to let Brock kill Monstroso after he recovered, though. To be fair, Monstroso had treated him more than fairly, was offering him his life's dream, and had spent a while bonding with him; he had plenty of reasons to like the guy even knowing he was a monster.
* InsufferableGenius: Although he can be self-absorbed at times, Billy is a very talented and intelligent scientist.
* LaserGuidedAmnesia: He doesn't know how he got his metal hand. He eventually remembers, or maybe Col. Gathers wiped his memory again.
* LockedOutOfTheLoop: Every time he regains the memory of how he lost his eye and hand, Pete knocks him out and takes him to the O.S.I/Sphinx to have his memory wiped again. Later on, it's implied that he now knows the truth permanently.
* TheMedic: He's a gifted surgeon and his medical expertise is sought after by heroes and villains alike.
* MistakenForGay: midway through the show people start mistaking him and Pete for a couple. His own mother believes this is why Billy hasn't spoken to her in years, feeling she wouldn't approve of his "lifestyle". Billy doesn't correct her due to wanting to keep gifts she sent them, and Pete hasn't said a word since she called him handsome. By season 6, even the rest of the elderly cast honestly think Pete is Billy's boyfriend.
* MyBrainIsBig: Billy claims that his excess of brain fluid makes him smarter. This is debatable, but he's at least a highly-skilled surgeon.
* NiceGuy: Billy is one of the few genuinely good people in the show's cast. He's kind, polite, helpful, and determined despite [[ButtMonkey all the misery he endures]]. On the occasions where he loses his cool at Pete or someone else, he's usually well within his rights to do so.

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* HonorBeforeReason: He was willing to restore perform a heart transplant on Monstroso, first for the money, but then because of his doctor's honor. He was still willing to let Brock kill Monstroso after he recovered, though. To be fair, Monstroso had treated him more than fairly, was offering him his life's dream, and had spent a while bonding with him; he had plenty of reasons to like the guy even knowing he was a monster.
* InsufferableGenius: Although he He can be self-absorbed at times, very self-absorbed, but Billy is undeniably knowledgable about medicine and a very talented and intelligent scientist.
surgeon.
* LaserGuidedAmnesia: He doesn't know how he got his metal hand. He eventually remembers, hand or maybe Col. Gathers wiped lost his eye. As revealed in "The Invisible Hand of Fate", every time he regains his memory again.
of working for the O.S.I., Pete takes him to have the memory wiped once again. He seems to have regained the memory (without having it wiped again) by season four given his reaction to Hunter and SPHINX, but it's never confirmed.
* LockedOutOfTheLoop: Every time he regains the memory of how he lost his eye and hand, Pete knocks him out and takes him to the O.S.I/Sphinx I/SPHINX to have his memory wiped again. Later on, it's implied that he now knows the truth permanently.
* TheMedic: He's a gifted surgeon and his medical expertise is sought after by heroes and villains alike.
alike, usually to perform "illegal surgeries" or deal with the bizarre consequences of super-science.
* MistakenForGay: midway through the show people start mistaking him People often mistake he and Pete for a couple. His own mother believes this is why Billy hasn't spoken to her in years, feeling she wouldn't approve of his "lifestyle". Billy [[FakeRelationship doesn't correct her her]] due to wanting to keep gifts she sent them, and Pete hasn't said a word since she called him handsome. By season 6, six, even the rest of the elderly cast honestly genuinely think Pete is Billy's boyfriend.
* MyBrainIsBig: Billy claims that his excess of brain cerebrospinal fluid (due to being hydrocephalic) makes him smarter. This being the cause is debatable, but he's at least definitely a highly-skilled surgeon.
* NiceGuy: Billy is one of the few genuinely good people in the show's cast. He's kind, polite, helpful, and determined despite [[ButtMonkey all the misery he endures]]. On the occasions where he loses his cool at Pete or someone else, (usually Pete), he's usually well ''well'' within his rights to do so.so.
* NotThatKindOfDoctor: Subverted as he has an ''illegitimate'' medical doctorate thanks to doing a favor for Monstroso/the Investors, but even without it, he is one of the most skilled surgeons in the world with incredible knowledge of anatomy.



* PhonyDegree: He finally gets a medical doctorate in season four's "The Silent Partners", though it is illegitimate from doing a favor for Monstroso/the Investors. Regardless, he is already a world-class surgeon and medical expert.



* ProperlyParanoid: Apparently, Billy was right to look for conspiracy clues on his Rusty Venture [=DVDs=].

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* ProperlyParanoid: Apparently, Billy was right to look spent a long time looking for conspiracy clues on his in the old "[[ShowWithinAShow Rusty Venture [=DVDs=].Show]]" [=DVDs=], long enough to amass quite the JarPotty collection. He was right to do so, as he finds a code that leads to the hidden location of the world's most dangerous artifact.



* StrangeMindsThinkAlike: As a man who was reared on space-age pop culture as a child, he shares many of Rusty's attitudes as to how super science can be applied. And also abused for the sake of RuleOfCool. Such as in the form of "mind control gas."
* SwissArmyAppendage: It has a homing function, a fire extinguisher, and it can do a grappling-hook sort of thing, but it can't retract itself and pull him along or anything useful like that, [[{{Deconstruction}} because the mechanism would be too bulky]]. Actually, after using the grappling-hook function, he apparently has a hard time reattaching it at all, and just leaves it dangling like a mini ball-and-chain for the rest of the day. And his idea to have White climb the cable doesn't work, because it's attached to his nerves and hurts.
* TeenGenius: Subverted on two occasions. First, when it is revealed that he is actually in his 30s; secondly, in a flashback showing him in his actual TeenGenius phase, he is completely overwhelmed by college-level classwork. He was smart and racked up the points on quiz shows, but he didn't really display any real-world talent until he grew up and began successfully sewing limbs onto bodies with full function.
** Also discussed when he acts as Dean and Hank's guidance counsellor - he reminds Rusty, privately, that the boys really don't have the life skills to face the real world, and you realize that he's speaking from experience.
* WardrobeFlawOfCharacterization: He and White look a little overdressed in their suits for all the ''nothing'' they're generally doing, but Billy's tie is always loose, his shirt is always untucked, and his pants are rolled up at the ankles like he couldn't find a suit that was quite teeny-tiny enough. The normal but rumpled suit-and-tie look contrasts with White, whose outfit is [[TheEighties outdated]] and eccentric but usually impeccably crisp.
* WideEyedIdealist: Certainly compared to most of the people he knows. He's enthusiastic about almost any opportunity to go on a wacky adventure, really thinks the red ball from the [[Music/DuranDuran "Is There Something I Should Know"]] video is magic, and usually looks slightly pained when White gets him to bullshit Rusty so they can jack up their fees.
-->'''Brock Samson:''' It's Level One, Billy. It's a show. He stuns you, you stun him, he vows revenge, and then you tell him that good always triumphs over evil.\\
'''Billy Quizboy:''' ''[like he really thinks he just might hear a "yes"]'' Does it?\\
'''Brock Samson:''' Of course not. Now get out there and get this crap over with. You're blocking traffic.
* YoungerThanTheyLook: While his stature gives him the silhouette of a child, he has the craggy, wrinkled face of a man in his fifties, despite still being a relatively young man of 35. This is made especially egregious when compared to Pete, who is 43 and could pass for a man a decade younger.

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* StrangeMindsThinkAlike: As a man who was reared on space-age pop culture as a child, he shares many of Rusty's attitudes as to how super science can be applied. And also Also abused for the sake of RuleOfCool. Such RuleOfCool, such as in the form of "mind control gas."
gas".
* SwissArmyAppendage: It [[DeconstructedTrope Deconstructed]] by his mechanical hand, which has a homing function, a fire extinguisher, and it can do a grappling-hook sort of thing, but it can't retract itself and pull him along or anything useful like that, [[{{Deconstruction}} [[AwesomeButImpractical because the mechanism would be too bulky]]. Actually, In fact, after using the grappling-hook function, he apparently has a hard time reattaching it at all, ''at all'', and just leaves it dangling like a mini ball-and-chain for the rest of the day. And his His idea to have White climb the cable also doesn't work, because it's attached to his nerves and hurts.
* TeenGenius: Both Subverted on two occasions. First, when it is and Discussed:
** It's
revealed early in the series that he is he's actually in his 30s; secondly, in 30s despite claiming to be a flashback showing "boy genius", his short stature and hydrocephalic condition making him in look younger than he is. In "The Invisible Hand of Fate" FlashbackEpisode to his actual TeenGenius phase, teenage years shows that, while he is completely overwhelmed by college-level classwork. He was smart and racked up the points on quiz shows, but he was completely overwhelmed by college-level classwork and didn't really display any real-world talent until he grew up and began successfully sewing limbs onto bodies with full function.
up.
** Also discussed Discussed when he acts as Dean and Hank's guidance counsellor counselor in "Pomp and Circuitry" - he reminds Rusty, privately, that the boys really don't have the life skills to face the real world, and you realize that he's speaking from experience.
* WardrobeFlawOfCharacterization: He and White look a little overdressed in their suits for all the ''nothing'' they're generally doing, but Billy's tie is always loose, his shirt is always untucked, and his pants are rolled up at the ankles like he couldn't find a suit that was quite teeny-tiny enough.ankles. The normal but rumpled suit-and-tie look contrasts with White, whose outfit is [[TheEighties outdated]] and eccentric but usually impeccably crisp.
* WideEyedIdealist: Certainly compared to most of others on the people he knows. He's show, whose years of experience as adventurers and "super-scientists" have left them very jaded and cynical. Billy is enthusiastic about almost any opportunity to go on a wacky adventure, really thinks the red ball from the [[Music/DuranDuran "Is There Something I Should Know"]] video is magic, and usually looks slightly pained when White gets him to bullshit Rusty so they can jack up their fees.
-->'''Brock Samson:''' -->'''Brock:''' It's Level One, Billy. It's a show. He stuns you, you stun him, he vows revenge, and then you tell him that good always triumphs over evil.\\
'''Billy Quizboy:''' '''Billy:''' ''[like he really thinks he just might hear a "yes"]'' Does it?\\
'''Brock Samson:''' '''Brock:''' Of course not. Now get out there and get this crap over with. You're blocking traffic.
* YoungerThanTheyLook: While his stature gives him the silhouette of a child, he has the craggy, wrinkled face of a man in his fifties, despite still being a relatively young man of 35. in his thirties. This is made especially egregious apparent when compared to Pete, who is 43 and could pass for a man a decade younger.

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* DealWithTheDevil: Their insurance payout "seed money" came from such a deal with The Investors. They force Billy to perform a heart transplant on Monstroso in order to pay them back.



* InkSuitActor: Zig-zagged on a couple of levels. First, Pete and Billy look a lot like creators Doc Hammer and Chris McCulloch (AKA Jackson Publick) respectively, with added deformities (Pete being an albino while Billy is a hydrocephalic). The "Zig" comes in because each character is voiced by the ''other'' creator. The "Zag" come from the series' official artbook, in which the creators say that it's purely coincidental.



* ShipTease: Their HeterosexualLifePartners relationship that is often MistakenForGay has been milked for a good number of jokes in the fandom. In "The Silent Partners", Shoreleve even sarcastically quips "Oh yeah, friend. ''Friend''." in reference to their relationship.



* BuffySpeak: When things start getting especially "super-science-y", well out of Pete's areas of expertise, he starts to use this to describe what is going on.
--> '''Pete''': I'm an albino, I can't even go to the beach without exploding. There is no way I'm standing in front of an ''anything'' ray.



A hydrocephalic neurogeneticist of dubious professional accomplishment, he was once a child prodigy and often capitalizes on his pedomorphic looks to pass for one in his adulthood. His nickname stems from his reign as champion of a TV quiz show in his youth. He lives, platonically, with Pete White in a trailer that doubles as the headquarters of their startup tech business, Conjectural Technologies.

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A hydrocephalic neurogeneticist of dubious professional accomplishment, neurogeneticist, he was once made his name as a child prodigy and often capitalizes on (earning his pedomorphic looks to pass for one in his adulthood. His nickname stems nickname) from his reign as champion of a on the TV quiz show "Quizboys" in his youth. He lives, youth, where he Pete was the host. Following a cheating scandal, Billy entered the employ of the O.S.I. to spy on Guild activity at State University while posing as a student. After the mission failed, he was mind-wiped and placed into the care of Pete, where they have lived, platonically, with Pete White in a trailer that doubles as the headquarters of their startup tech business, Conjectural Technologies.Technologies.



* ArchEnemy: [[RememberTheNewGuy Apparently]], Billy has a longstanding rivalry with the exceptionally rich collector/fanboy Augustus St. Cloud, who becomes his official arch-enemy at the beginning of season 5 (Augustus joined the Guild solely for this reason).

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* ArchEnemy: [[RememberTheNewGuy Apparently]], Billy has a longstanding rivalry with the exceptionally rich collector/fanboy Augustus St. Cloud, who becomes his official arch-enemy at the beginning of season 5 five (Augustus joined the Guild solely for this reason).



* BackAlleyDoctor: Even without a license Billy is as good, if not better, than any 'real' doctor, performing next to impossible surgeries in less than ideal conditions, including transplanting a gorilla's heart into a giant in his underwear, and attaching Dragoon's head to Red Mantle without killing either of them.
* BetterLivingThroughEvil: Because Monstroso lavishes him with gifts, amusements, a medical degree, and prostitutes during ''The Silent Partners'' as payment for helping with his unorthodox heart transplant, Billy seriously considers joining the Guild of Calamitous Intent but reconsiders it when Brock points out that as nice as Monstroso was treating him (especially in comparison to how Team Venture and the OSI does) he's ultimately a remorseless criminal who isn't going to stop hurting people if the operation is successful.
* BewareTheNiceOnes: After being pushed too far in {{Flashback}}, he managed to punch [[BadassNormal Brock Samson]] in the balls and escape from him and Col. Gathers.

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* BackAlleyDoctor: Even without a license Billy is as good, if not better, than any 'real' doctor, performing next to impossible surgeries in less than ideal conditions, including reattaching severed limbs, transplanting a gorilla's heart into a giant in his underwear, giant, and attaching Dragoon's head to Red Mantle Mantle's body without killing either of them.
them. Any time someone in the series needs an (in Billy's words) "illegal surgery", you can bet they'll call/kidnap Billy to perform it.
* BetterLivingThroughEvil: Because Monstroso lavishes him with gifts, amusements, a medical degree, and prostitutes during ''The "The Silent Partners'' Partners" as payment for helping with his him performing an unorthodox heart transplant, Billy seriously considers joining the Guild of Calamitous Intent but reconsiders it when Brock points out that as nice as Monstroso was treating him (especially in comparison to how Team Venture and the OSI does) O.S.I. does), he's ultimately a remorseless criminal who isn't going to stop hurting people if the operation is successful.
* BewareTheNiceOnes: After being pushed too far in {{Flashback}}, the "Invisble Hand of Fate" {{Flashback}} to his work for the O.S.I., he managed manages to punch [[BadassNormal Brock Samson]] [[OneManArmy Brock]] in the balls and escape from him and Col. Gathers.Gathers.

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A tech start-up by Dr. Venture's college friend Pete White and former child prodigy Billy Quizboy. The two are Venture's closest friends and he frequently calls on them and serves as their primary source of income. Both have since moved to New York and work in Ventech Industries' super science department under Venture.

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[[caption-width-right:410:The original "headquarters".]]
->'''Pete''': We freaks have to stick together!

A tech start-up by Dr. Venture's college friend Pete White and former child prodigy Billy Quizboy. The two are Venture's closest friends and he frequently calls on them for scientific aid. They get bought out in season six and serves as their primary source of income. Both have since moved sold to [=VenTech=] Industries, moving along with the family family to New York and work in Ventech Industries' super science department under Venture.City.



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* AscendedExtra: Initially recurring at first, the two are cemented as main characters by Season Five. Though Rusty firmly cements that they'll never be a part of Team Venture.

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* AscendedExtra: Initially recurring at first, the two are cemented as main They grow from bit characters in the pilot who don't even get real names (referred to as "Albino Scientist" and "Hydrocephalic Child Scientist" in the credits) to recurring characters in the first few seasons to trailing only the Venture family and the Monarch in terms of how frequently they appear by Season Five. Though Rusty firmly cements that they'll never be a part of Team Venture.the late seasons.



** ''[[Recap/TheVentureBrosS3E3TheInvisibleHandOfFate The Invisible Hand of Fate]]''. A WholeEpisodeFlashback that focuses on the history between the two.
** ''[[Recap/TheVentureBrosS4E15TheSilentPartners The Silent Partners]]''. Where Billy is kidnapped by The Investors and the relationship between him and Pete White is put into question.
** ''[[Recap/TheVentureBrosS5E4Spanakopita Spanakopita!]]''. Where they accompany Rusty on his vacation in Spanakos.
** ''[[Recap/TheVentureBrosS6E2MaybeNoGo Maybe No Go]]''. Where we see a peek into the duo's lives as heroes.
** ''[[Recap/TheVentureBrosS7E6TheBellicoseProxy The Bellicose Proxy]]''. Where the two are trained for their next arching against St. Cloud.
* CharacterizationMarchesOn: In very early material, such as the pilot and "Ice Station Impossible", they're treated as scientific peers to people like Rusty and Richard, getting invited to big events. By the second season, this idea largely vanishes, and their science skills are downplayed in favor of focusing on surgery and computer work (which, one supposes, are still ''forms'' of science, but rather distinct from the typical brand of it in the series), with Billy not even being accredited.

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** ''[[Recap/TheVentureBrosS3E3TheInvisibleHandOfFate Season three's "[[Recap/TheVentureBrosS3E3TheInvisibleHandOfFate The Invisible Hand of Fate]]''. A Fate]]" is a WholeEpisodeFlashback that focuses on the history between the two.
** ''[[Recap/TheVentureBrosS4E15TheSilentPartners Season four's "[[Recap/TheVentureBrosS4E15TheSilentPartners The Silent Partners]]''. Where Partners]]" sees Billy is kidnapped by The Investors and the relationship between him and Pete White is put into question.
** ''[[Recap/TheVentureBrosS5E4Spanakopita Spanakopita!]]''. Where they Season five's "[[Recap/TheVentureBrosS5E4Spanakopita Spanakopita!]]" has them accompany Rusty on his vacation in Spanakos.
** ''[[Recap/TheVentureBrosS6E2MaybeNoGo Season six's "[[Recap/TheVentureBrosS6E2MaybeNoGo Maybe No Go]]''. Where we see Go]]" gives a peek into the duo's lives as heroes.
"heroes".
** ''[[Recap/TheVentureBrosS7E6TheBellicoseProxy Season seven's "[[Recap/TheVentureBrosS7E6TheBellicoseProxy The Bellicose Proxy]]''. Where Proxy]]" has the two are trained for their next arching against St. Cloud.
* CharacterizationMarchesOn: In very early material, such as the pilot and "Ice Station Impossible", they're treated as scientific peers to people like Rusty and Richard, getting invited to big events. By the second season, this idea largely vanishes, and their science skills are downplayed in favor of focusing on surgery and computer work (which, one supposes, are still ''forms'' of science, but rather distinct from the typical brand of it in the series), with Billy not even being accredited.
Cloud.



* EndOfAnEra: Billy and Pete are coerced by Augustus St. Cloud into giving up their company and all their associated assets midway through season 6, and while the pair stick around to help Rusty out in New York for the remainder of the show, they can no longer officially refer to themselves as Conjectural Technologies.
* FakeRelationship: Billy's mom assumed they were in a relationship, and for some reason, he didn't feel like denying it, so now at this point they're committed to it. And she sent them a sideboard and other gifts as some sort of domestic-partnership gifts, so, win. Apparently, it doesn't take much more to keep the ruse going than just not denying it when, for instance, Colonel Gentleman refers to White as Billy's "pigmentally-challenged better half".
* HeterosexualLifePartners: To each other.
* IntergenerationalFriendship: The duo has a bit of an age gap between them.
* LikeAnOldMarriedCouple: They've lived together for almost twenty years and would do just about anything for each other, but they start bickering at the drop of a hat. Or... in ''[[Recap/TheVentureBrosS4E11AnyWhichWayButZeus Any Which Way But Zeus]]'', when a scarf is dropped to cue the start of the tragic friend-versus-friend gladiator match they're supposed to have, they instead resume the argument they'd been having earlier about whether one of them is the other's sidekick until the announcer has to yell at them to "stop fighting and fight!" It's usually the sort of extremely married bickering where they're both yelling at once so it's practically unintelligible to listen to, but they understand each other well enough to retort to something the other hasn't finished saying yet.
* ManChild: Both of them, in different ways. At one point Billy scolds White for wanting to keep [=HELPeR=] after they win him off St Cloud, because "you never even play with Robo-Bo anymore", exactly like a parent telling off a kid who wants more toys. But despite being fairly sensible and responsible, Billy gets ''really'' into make-believe and playing dress-up. And they both trick-or-treat at the Venture compound on Halloween, although it seems like they're mostly just trying to be sociable. Occasionally they act like OneOfTheKids with Hank and Dean.
* ThePeterPrinciple: Once they and Augustus St. Cloud are officially recognized as arches by both the OSI and the Guild of Calamitous Intent, their clashes (which previously had everything from giant robots and attempted murder) wind up becoming even lamer due to the constraints placed upon both parties by their new Level 1 status. Even worse, they're not allowed to use their old homemade costumes and have to make do with cruddy rental ones while their new proper (and approved) attire is being made.
* ThePiratesWhoDontDoAnything: A few episodes have pointed out that Conjectural Technologies rarely seems to... you know, be a company. They're apparently a tech startup, but the kind of technology they work with, their products, and who's buying and selling their stuff? Who knows, if they even exist. Unless you count helping out the Ventures as their business model, which it may very well be.
* SuperZeroes: They become level 1 heroes. It's a lot like {{LARP}}ing (with extra-embarrassing costumes), although Billy does genuinely believe they once saved all of pop culture since the '80s from a tragic Music/DuranDuran deficiency.
* ThoseTwoGuys: They are rarely seen separately.
* TrueCompanions: The two have stuck together for most of their adult lives and have shown to care about each other. Though, Pete White vehemently denies this. [[WhatTheHellHero Hatred calls him out on this later on]].
-->'''Pete White:''' He's not my best friend. I just work with him.\\

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* EarlyInstallmentWeirdness: In very early material, such as the pilot and season one's "Ice Station Impossible", they're treated as scientific peers to people like Rusty and Richard Impossible, getting invited to big events like the UN summit and the secret government "think tank". By the second season, this idea largely vanishes, and their science skills are downplayed in favor of focusing on surgery (for Billy) and computer work (which, one supposes, are still ''forms'' of science, but rather distinct from the typical brand of it in the series, for Pete), with Billy not even being accredited.
* EndOfAnEra: Billy and Pete are coerced by Augustus St. Cloud into giving up their company and all their associated assets midway through early in season 6, and while six. It turns out St. Cloud sells the pair stick around assets to help Rusty out in [=VenTech=] Industries, giving them an excuse to follow the Venture family to New York for the remainder of the show, they can no longer officially refer to themselves as Conjectural Technologies.
and work on Rusty's "super-science" R&D projects.
* FakeRelationship: Billy's mom assumed they were in a relationship, and for some reason, he didn't feel like denying it, so now at this point they're committed to it. And The fact that she sent them a sideboard and other gifts as some sort of to celebrate their apparent domestic-partnership gifts, so, win. is a bonus. Apparently, it doesn't take much more to keep the ruse going than just not denying it when, for instance, Colonel Col. Gentleman refers to White as Billy's "pigmentally-challenged better half".
* HeterosexualLifePartners: To each other.
Naturally. They live together, apparently have for nearly as long as the Venture boys have been alive, fight LikeAnOldMarriedCouple, and are fully MistakenForGay but find it easier to [[FakeRelationship just pretend they are in a relationship]] around certain people (like Billy's mom).
* IntergenerationalFriendship: The duo has Pete isn't quite old enough to be Billy's father, but there is at least a bit of an decade age gap between them.
in their friendship.
* LikeAnOldMarriedCouple: They've lived together for almost twenty years and would do just about anything for each other, but they start bickering at the drop of a hat. Or... as seen in ''[[Recap/TheVentureBrosS4E11AnyWhichWayButZeus "[[Recap/TheVentureBrosS4E11AnyWhichWayButZeus Any Which Way But Zeus]]'', Zeus]]", when a scarf is dropped to cue the start of the tragic friend-versus-friend gladiator match they're supposed to have, they instead resume the argument they'd been having earlier about whether one of them is the other's sidekick until the announcer has to yell at them to "stop fighting and fight!" It's usually the sort of extremely married bickering where they're both yelling at once so it's practically unintelligible to listen to, but they understand each other well enough to retort to something the other hasn't finished saying yet.
* ManChild: Both of them, in different ways. At one point Billy scolds White for wanting to keep [=HELPeR=] H.E.L.P.eR. after they win him off St St. Cloud, because "you never even play with Robo-Bo anymore", exactly like a parent telling off a kid who wants more toys. But despite being fairly sensible and responsible, Billy gets ''really'' into make-believe and playing dress-up. And they both trick-or-treat at the Venture compound on Halloween, although it seems like they're mostly just trying to be sociable. Occasionally they act like OneOfTheKids with Hank and Dean.
* ThePeterPrinciple: Once they and Augustus St. Cloud are officially recognized as arches by both the OSI O.S.I. and the Guild of Calamitous Intent, their clashes (which previously had everything from giant robots and attempted murder) wind up becoming even lamer due to the constraints placed upon both parties by their new Level 1 "level one" status. Even worse, they're not allowed to use their old homemade costumes and have to make do with cruddy rental ones while their new proper (and approved) attire is being made.
made (which apparently takes months).
* ThePiratesWhoDontDoAnything: A few episodes have pointed out that Conjectural Technologies rarely seems to... you know, be do anything as a company. They're apparently a tech startup, but the kind of technology they work with, their products, and who's buying and selling their stuff? Who knows, if they even exist.stuff is a complete mystery. Unless you count helping out the Ventures as their business model, which it may very well be.
* SuperZeroes: They become level 1 heroes.one "protagonists" in season six. It's a lot like {{LARP}}ing (with extra-embarrassing costumes), although Billy does genuinely believe they once saved all of pop culture since the '80s from a tragic Music/DuranDuran deficiency.
* ThoseTwoGuys: They are rarely seen separately.
apart. When they are, it's usually because Billy is kidnapped to perform back-alley medical procedures or Pete is needed for his basic computer science knowledge. In these cases, the absence of the other is usually commented on.
* TrueCompanions: The two have stuck together for most of their adult lives and have shown to care about each other. Though, Pete White vehemently denies this. [[WhatTheHellHero Hatred calls him out on this later on]].
-->'''Pete White:''' -->'''Pete:''' He's not my best friend. I just work with him.\\



'''Pete White:''' I always thought of Rusty as my best friend.\\

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'''Pete White:''' '''Pete:''' I always thought of Rusty as my best friend.\\



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->'''Voiced by:''' Christopher [=McCulloch=]Creator/JacksonPublick



The "ever-popular" Pete White is an unlikely friend of Dr. Venture who attended State University with him and Baron Underbheit in the early 1980s. He is a computer scientist and lives in a trailer with Master Billy Quizboy, where the two have launched their own tech company, Conjectural Technologies. He patterns his trademark new wave look after Phil Oakey of Music/TheHumanLeague. And he's an albino.

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The "ever-popular" Pete White is an unlikely friend of Dr. Venture who attended State University with him and Baron Underbheit in the early 1980s. He is 1980s (where he was also the roommate of Baron Ünderbheit). Originally a computer scientist radio DJ and lives in host of the gameshow "Quizboys", where he met Billy, his life fell apart after a cheating scandal and he moved into a trailer with Master Billy Quizboy, where the two have launched their own tech company, Billy, starting Conjectural Technologies. He is a competent computer scientist, an albino, and patterns his trademark new wave look after Phil Oakey of Music/TheHumanLeague. And he's an albino.Music/TheHumanLeague.



* AFoolAndHisNewMoneyAreSoonParted: He can't hang onto money (or anything he could sell to get more spending money) for any length of time. When he was younger he blew all his savings on cocaine. These days he's apparently more interested in dumb toys, but it seems almost as compulsive. Billy usually tells him off for it (especially since it's usually really Billy's money), but does say the [=ConjectureCycle=] is "the best ten million bucks we ever spent." He also blew all their money on a bad bet back when they were younger. He's ''really'' bad with money.
* AlbinosAreFreaks: Self-describes as a "freak" in [[Recap/TheVentureBrosS3E3TheInvisibleHandOfFate "The Invisible Hand of Fate"]]. He gets a few demeaning comments from other characters related to his albinism, such as Monstroso describing Billy's home as "infested with albinos scurrying from {{UsefulNotes/Xbox}} to UsefulNotes/PlayStation" like he's a giant white rat. And characters tend not to use his name when "the albino" works just as well. St Cloud, for his part, regards him like some sort of exotic pet that belongs to Billy, until it's too much even for White's usually apathetic personality.

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* AFoolAndHisNewMoneyAreSoonParted: He can't hang onto money (or anything he could sell to get more spending money) for any length of time. When he was younger younger, he blew all his savings on cocaine. These days he's apparently more interested in dumb toys, but it seems toys and video games, almost as compulsive. to the point of compulsivity. Billy usually tells tends to let him off for have it (especially since it's usually really usually, ''really'' Billy's money), but does say even he admits the [=ConjectureCycle=] is "the best ten million bucks we ever spent." He also blew all their money made on the "underground Quizboy circuit" on a bad bet back when they were younger. He's Suffice it to say, he's ''really'' bad with money.
* AlbinosAreFreaks: Self-describes as a "freak" in [[Recap/TheVentureBrosS3E3TheInvisibleHandOfFate "The "[[Recap/TheVentureBrosS3E3TheInvisibleHandOfFate The Invisible Hand of Fate"]].Fate]]". He gets a few demeaning comments from other characters related to his albinism, such as Monstroso describing Billy's home as "infested with albinos scurrying from {{UsefulNotes/Xbox}} to UsefulNotes/PlayStation" like he's a giant white rat. And characters tend not to use his name when "the albino" works just as well. St St. Cloud, for his part, regards him like some sort of exotic pet that belongs to Billy, until it's too much even for White's usually apathetic personality.



* BoringButPractical: One of his suggested inventions for Rusty's new super science research division in season 6 is a "silent washing machine" which in spite of how lame it sounds, apparently worked. Rusty, being something of a subdued MadScientist, is quick to wave it aside in favor of Billy's "God Gas".
* BrilliantButLazy: Heavy on the "Lazy" part. When he applies himself, he is the cast's defacto computer expert, and is able to pitch-in with Billy's surgeries and Ventech R&D later in the series. Most of his hobbies (video games, radio DJ, internet) further reflect this.

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* BoringButPractical: One of his suggested inventions for Rusty's new super science research division in season 6 six is a "silent washing machine" which which, in spite of how lame it sounds, apparently worked.actually works (unlike the rest of the more interesting inventions). Rusty, being something of a subdued MadScientist, is quick to wave it aside in favor of Billy's "God Gas".
* BrilliantButLazy: Heavy on the "Lazy" part. When he applies himself, he is the cast's defacto computer expert, and is able to pitch-in with Billy's surgeries and Ventech [=VenTech=] R&D later in the series. Most of his hobbies (video games, radio DJ, internet) further reflect this.



* TheEighties: Heavily influenced by the culture.
* HollywoodNewEngland: Speaks with a New England accent.
** The New England stereotype of being strangely obsessive about route optimization shows up in ''[[Recap/TheVentureBrosS3E11ORB ORB]]'', where he gets [[ComicallyMissingThePoint sidetracked]] by noticing a shortcut on a mysterious secret map.
--->"Look at that, I could save 1.3 miles if I take Ridge Street!"

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* DirtyCoward: He is absolutely useless in a fight. At one point, he outright admits to "cowering in a corner" until he heard the fighting stop.
* TheEighties: Heavily influenced by the culture.
culture. He even patterns his look after Phil Oakey of Music/TheHumanLeague.
* HollywoodNewEngland: Speaks with a New England accent.
**
accent. The New England stereotype of being strangely obsessive about route optimization shows up in ''[[Recap/TheVentureBrosS3E11ORB ORB]]'', "[[Recap/TheVentureBrosS3E11ORB ORB]]", where he gets [[ComicallyMissingThePoint sidetracked]] by noticing a shortcut on a mysterious secret map.
--->"Look -->'''Pete''': Look at that, I could save 1.3 miles if I take Ridge Street!"Street!



* KarmaHoudini: He basically destroyed Billy's life, first ruining his reputation as a Quizboy by cheating for him, then losing both the money that Billy had been saving for college and the boy's hand by accidentally entering him in a dogfighting ring. After Billy's failed mission with the O.S.I., Brock brings him, memory wiped, into Pete's care. Over the years since, Billy has been the only competent member of their duo and, whenever Billy regains his memory, Pete takes him to have his memory wiped once again. Pete has basically avoided all consequences for his actions, aside from, well, being Pete White. It's really no wonder that Zero introduced Billy as "under the villain Pete White".
* LastNameBasis: Almost everyone just calls him "White", probably because it fits him so well. Billy and Rusty have been his closest friends for twenty years -- Billy's even shared a ''bedroom'' with him for twenty years -- and they both still address him with his surname.
* LostHimInACardgame: In "What Colour Is Your Cleansuit?", St. Cloud made Billy wager him as a prize in a trivia game. Fortunately, Billy won.
* TheMillstone: While he is ''occasionally'' useful, the series heavily implies that he's mostly holding the actually-surprisingly-competent Billy back.
* MistakenForGay: Several times, even by his best friend Billy. It gets more common when Billy's mother assumes they are a couple in season 6. And season 7 confirms the old folks on the show still think this.
* NiceJobBreakingItHero: His attempt to save Rusty and the rest of the people in Ventech Tower during the Season 7 premiere results in him destroying Jonas' life support system. In all fairness, he was likely suffering a concussion as Jonas arranged for him to be knocked out by a heavy wrench so he couldn't interfere with his hack of the tower. Of course, [[KickTheSonOfABitch Jonas Sr. really had it coming.]]
* [[NotWorthKilling Not Worth Memory Wiping]]: The O.S.I/Sphinx don't bother wiping his memory whenever they wipe Billy's, due to him being, as Hunter Gathers put it, "A Lazy Bastard". (It actually works out, since White can bring Billy to them whenever he does regain his memory.)
* OlderThanTheyLook: He's roughly the same age as Rusty, Brock, Baron Ünderbheit, and the Monarch, but time's been rather kind to him. This could be a case of TruthInTelevision as Pete's albinism means he needs to take care of his skin and stay out of the sun, which has likely slowed the ageing process.
* ParasolOfPrettiness: Fits in with his general CampStraight demeanor.
** Justified in how (again) he's albino.
* ProneToSunburn: He can ''catch on fire'' in sufficiently intense direct sun. It seems depending on RuleOfFunny, though: another scene shows him after sitting out in the desert sun for who-knows-how-long and just realistically getting the sort of sunburn people go to the ER for. He sometimes carries a parasol to avoid this.
* PunnyName: An albino with the last name of "White."
* TheSlacker: Obviously he's better off sticking with indoor activities to begin with, but he usually spends his time playing video games rather than making himself useful as co-founder of Conjectural Technologies.
* ThisLooksLikeAJobForAquaman: He has excellent computer skills, having managed to keep up with the times despite the squalor he lives in, but most of the sci-fi technology in the show is analogue so they're only useful during extremely rare occasions.

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* KarmaHoudini: He basically destroyed Billy's life, first ruining his reputation as a Quizboy by cheating for him, then losing both the money that Billy had been saving for college and ''and'' the boy's hand hand/eye by accidentally entering him in a dogfighting ring. After Billy's failed mission with the O.S.I., Brock brings him, memory wiped, into Pete's care. Over the years since, Billy has been the only competent member of their duo and, whenever Billy regains his memory, Pete takes him to have his memory it wiped once again. Pete has basically avoided all consequences for his actions, aside from, well, being Pete White. It's really no wonder that Zero introduced Billy as "under the villain Pete White".
White" in "Any Which Way But Zeus".
* LastNameBasis: Almost everyone just calls him "White", probably because it fits him so well. Billy and Rusty have been his closest friends for twenty years -- Billy's even shared a ''bedroom'' with him for twenty years close to that -- and they both still address him with his surname.
* LostHimInACardgame: In "What Colour Is Your Cleansuit?", St. Cloud made makes Billy wager him Pete as a prize in a trivia game. Fortunately, Billy won.
* TheMillstone: While he is ''occasionally'' useful, most often when the other characters need someone with basic computer knowledge, the series heavily implies that he's mostly holding the actually-surprisingly-competent Billy back.
* MistakenForGay: Several times, even by his best friend Billy. It gets more common when Billy's mother assumes they are a couple in season 6. And season 7 six. Season seven confirms the old folks on the show still think this.
this, with the two having a FakeRelationship so they don't have to give back the gifts Billy's mom got them.
* NiceJobBreakingItHero: His attempt to save Rusty and the rest of the people in Ventech [=VenTech=] Tower during the Season 7 season seven premiere results in him destroying Jonas' Jonas Sr.'s life support system. In all fairness, he was likely suffering a concussion as Jonas arranged for him to be knocked out by a heavy wrench so he couldn't interfere with his hack of the tower. Of course, [[KickTheSonOfABitch [[AssholeVictim Jonas Sr. really had it coming.]]
coming]].
* [[NotWorthKilling Not Worth Memory Wiping]]: NotWorthKilling: Downplayed in that it's memory wiping, but still in the same vein. The O.S.I/Sphinx I/SPHINX don't bother wiping his memory whenever they wipe Billy's, due to him being, as Hunter Gathers put it, "A Lazy Bastard"."a lazy bastard". (It actually works out, since White can bring Billy to them whenever he does regain his memory.)
* OlderThanTheyLook: He's roughly the same age as Rusty, Brock, Baron Ünderbheit, and the Monarch, but time's been rather kind to him. This could be a case has elements of TruthInTelevision TruthInTelevision, as Pete's albinism means he needs to take extra care of his skin and stay out of the sun, which has likely slowed the ageing aging process.
* ParasolOfPrettiness: Fits Carries one when outdoors in the daylight to protect himself from the sun as an albino, but it also fits in with his general CampStraight demeanor.
** Justified in how (again) he's albino.
* ProneToSunburn: Exaggerated. He can ''catch on fire'' in sufficiently intense direct sun. It seems depending on RuleOfFunny, though: however -- another scene shows him after sitting out in the desert sun for who-knows-how-long and just realistically getting the sort of sunburn people go to the ER for. He sometimes carries a parasol ParasolOfPrettiness to avoid this.
* PunnyName: An albino with the last name of "White."
"White".
* TheSlacker: Obviously he's better off sticking with indoor activities to begin with, but he usually spends his time playing video games rather than making himself useful as co-founder of Conjectural Technologies.
Technologies. It's repeatedly implied that he is holding the much-more-competent Billy back.
* ThisLooksLikeAJobForAquaman: He has excellent some basic computer skills, having managed to keep up with the times despite the squalor he lives in, but most of the sci-fi technology in the show is analogue so they're only useful during extremely rare occasions.old-school analogue, limiting his usefulness.
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A fellow super-scientist and CaptainErsatz of ''Franchise/FantasticFour'' leader Reed Richards AKA Mr. Fantastic, but much, much darker. At first, he seemed just like his counterpart... and then it was revealed his fellow members got useless, or in one case harmful, powers and that he kept them under wraps to save face. Doctor Venture won over his wife, Sally, while working with Impossible but left her behind when they left. She finally escaped with Doctor Venture's brother J.J. along with her and her son Rocket. He didn't take it well. He soon fell into a deep depression until his old buddy Phantom Limb convinced him to go over to the evil side while remaining a super scientist to the public. He became a supervillain and part of Phantom Limb's Revenge Society until it was dissolved after the destruction of Gargantua-2.

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A fellow super-scientist and CaptainErsatz of ''Franchise/FantasticFour'' ''ComicBook/FantasticFour'' leader Reed Richards AKA Mr. Fantastic, but much, much darker. At first, he seemed just like his counterpart... and then it was revealed his fellow members got useless, or in one case harmful, powers and that he kept them under wraps to save face. Doctor Venture won over his wife, Sally, while working with Impossible but left her behind when they left. She finally escaped with Doctor Venture's brother J.J. along with her and her son Rocket. He didn't take it well. He soon fell into a deep depression until his old buddy Phantom Limb convinced him to go over to the evil side while remaining a super scientist to the public. He became a supervillain and part of Phantom Limb's Revenge Society until it was dissolved after the destruction of Gargantua-2.



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* CaptainErsatz: Of The Human Torch from ''Franchise/FantasticFour'', except without any control of his fire powers.

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* CaptainErsatz: Of The Human Torch from ''Franchise/FantasticFour'', ''ComicBook/FantasticFour'', except without any control of his fire powers.



* CaptainErsatz: Of The Thing from ''Franchise/FantasticFour'', except mentally handicapped.

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[[folder:Jonas Venture Jr.]]
!! Dr. Jonas "J.J." Venture, Jr.
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->'''Voiced by''': James Urbaniak
->''"It was addressed to 'Dr. Venture' and since you've been gone, I received two doctorates."''

Rusty's twin brother whom he ate in the womb, Jonas Jr. - or J.J. - is a dwarf with all
of the ''Franchise/FantasticFour''.skill, charisma, success, and hair that Rusty lacks. After escaping his brother's body, he quickly establishes himself as a "super-scientist" second only to their late father. He frequently gets awarded contracts Rusty wants and is often called by Rusty who asks him for money. By the mid-seasons, he has largely left super-science behind in favor of his more practical tech company, becoming a billionaire while he works on his Gargantua-2 space station.



* BlessedWithSuck: Each of them except for Richard gets saddled with an actively detrimental "ability".
* DarkParody: The family was exposed to a SuperEmpowering event that left 3/4 of them with severe physical ''detriments''. It negatively impacts them to the point where Sally leaves Richard who, in his despair goes into a suicidal depression and eventually turns to outright villainy. A far cry fro their inspiration.
* ExpyCoexistence: They exist in a world where the ''Fantastic Four'' is a comic book, and even went as them for Halloween one year (winning the prize for best group costume).
* TheFantasticFaux: Richard is almost a note-for-note parody of Reed Richards, down to being a scientist with rubber abilities, with his ForScience sociopathy played up. The rest of his group includes his wife Sally, who can only turn her ''skin'' invisible, Sally's mentally-impaired cousin Ned, whose skin became one giant callous, and Sally's brother Cody, who bursts into flame if his skin touches oxygen (and with no immunity to burning). The parody plays up the darker aspects of the ''FF'' and turns them up to eleven, with the team eventually falling apart and Impossible becoming an antagonist in later seasons.
* FreakLabAccident: How they all ended up with their "powers". It happens offscreen before the series and is left ambiguous about what actually took place.

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* BlessedWithSuck: Each TheAce: Downplayed. He's more like his father than his brother is, in both the good (super-intelligent, handsome, charismatic) and the bad (insufferable ego, narcissism), but neither to the extreme of them except for Richard gets saddled their father. Within a month of bursting out of Rusty's body, he has already shaken up the "super-science" world as an eager new prodigy and becomes the owner of a billion-dollar tech company within a few seasons. However, he's also a parasitic twin with an actively detrimental "ability".
a malformed body (other than his head and face) who was mistaken for a ''tumor''.
* DarkParody: AllThereInTheManual: J.J. was dying from cancer anyway when he performed his HeroicSacrifice in "All This and Gargantua-2". The series' official art book heavily implies that the Guild fatally poisoned him with a carcinogen [[NoNonsenseNemesis due to his resistance]] to playing their "superhero and supervillain" games.
* AlwaysSomeoneBetter: Zig-zagged toward Rusty. Despite being a malformed twin Rusty absorbed in the womb and carried inside of himself for 43 years, JJ proves to be a far more competent scientist and far more popular with the ladies within weeks of breaking out of his brother's body, then succeeds in living up to their father's legacy as the head of a billion dollar tech company. However, before he dies, he actually admits to envying ''Rusty'' who has a
family was exposed and friends who care about him, despite his failures.
* AncestralName: Invoked. Jonas Jr. names himself after his father, Jonas Sr., whom he greatly admires despite never actually meeting the man, even building and dedicating a museum
to him. Also plays into his AlwaysSomeoneBetter relationship with Rusty, since J.J. is ''far'' closer to exemplifying the ScienceHero family legacy.
* ArtificialLimbs: His left hand didn't form during his development. After he breaks out of Rusty's body, Billy makes him
a SuperEmpowering event cybernetic prosthetic.
* BaldnessMeansSickness: He reveals he's dying of cancer by taking off his wig in front of Rusty. He presumably is undergoing chemo treatment, but he still has his eyebrows and beard.
* CharacterDevelopment: In his first appearance in the season one finale, he outright tries to murder Rusty. Given the nature of his existence as a parasitic twin trapped inside of his brother up until
that left 3/4 point, it's hard to blame him for being upset. He mellows out in season two into a smug-genius characterization after he starts making a fully deserved name for himself as Jonas' true inheritor, and is actually generally shown as one of them the more moral (if still rather narcissistic and egocentric) characters in the show.
* TheCharmer: Despite being a malformed, two-foot-tall, parasitic twin, he still has a handsome face and is amazingly successful
with severe physical ''detriments''. It negatively impacts them the ladies due to his charisma.
* CombiningMecha: Built one called Ventronic, a flying ShoutOut to Anime/{{Voltron}}, to defend Spider-Skull Island from attackers. [[LeaderFormsTheHead He pilots the core component of it]].
* FaceDeathWithDignity: Chooses to make a HeroicSacrifice, saving everyone aboard the Gargantua-2, rather than go out slowly and painfully from cancer, with a smile on his face.
* DecoyProtagonist: The first episode of season two's opening credits made it seem like he and Rusty would become the new "Venture Brothers" following Hank and Dean's death. Not only are the boys brought back via cloning, but he and Thaddeus do ''not'' form a SiblingTeam of any kind.
* DramaticIrony: Jonas Junior's apparent competence and good-natured personality are an ironic twist of fate, particularly given his claim in his first appearance he was the son that Jonas Venture Sr. should have had. Given the increasing indications through out the series that many of Thaddeus' issues and failings are the results of shortcomings in his [[FreudianExcuse father's parenting]], combined with [[HilariouslyAbusiveChildhood various traumatic experiences incurred during his childhood]] as a boy adventurer, it could be surmised that Jonas Jr. can fulfill the role expected of a son of the great Dr. Venture better than his brother, due
to the point where Sally leaves Richard who, ironic fact that, unlike Thaddeus, Jonas Junior wasn't actually ''raised'' by their father.
* GadgeteerGenius: Built a MiniMecha body out of spare parts
in his despair first appearance and proves to be much more of a technological "genius" than Rusty throughout the rest of the series, inventing equivalents of the [=iPhone=] and [=iPad=], as well as a full blown CombiningMecha and space station.
* GeniusesHaveMultiplePhDs: He acquires [=two PhDs=] after escaping Rusty's body during the one month TimeSkip between the season one finale and season two opener. Unlike his college dropout brother Rusty (who goes by "Dr. Venture" via his [[PhonyDegree honorary doctorate]] from [[[[WorthlessForeignDegree Tijuana]]), his ability to accomplish this shows that Jonas Jr. is the true heir the multi-generational line of {{Omnidisciplinary Scientist}}s following his world-renowned father and grandfather.
* GenreBlind:
** J.J. never really experienced all the craziness of living in the world with "super-science", costumed heroes and villains, and real functional magic like his brother, and consequently doesn't really know how to handle it or care to try. For example, during his apparent first arching, he tries to [[KillHimAlready just straight up kill the Monarch]] and complains to the O.S.I. that he doesn't want to play the Guild's "game" that enforces JokerImmunity on villains. This is another point of contrast to Rusty, who has a similar lack of interest in the scientist-adventurer lifestyle, but still knows all its trappings and
goes into it anyway, however halfheartedly.
** Even later, he still runs into trouble by being ignorant of the world's rules. This is best exemplified by him choosing to make
a suicidal depression deal with The Investors, who even by the standards of this universe are about as ObviouslyEvil as you can get. It predictably backfires in his face as the Investors lead to the destruction of Gargantua-2, forcing J.J. to perform a HeroicSacrifice to save the passengers escaping to safety. To make matters worse, Jonas arrested Brock and eventually turns Amber Gold, who were specifically there to outright villainy. A far cry fro their inspiration.
help ''save him'' from the idiotic deal he wound up making.
* ExpyCoexistence: They exist HeroicSacrifice: In "All This and Gargantua-2", he pilots the cockpit containing the overloaded nuclear core of Gargantua-2 safely away from its escaping life pods. It detonates with him inside.
* HollywoodCyborg: He gets a robotic left arm in place of the malformed nub he had in his first appearance.
* HopeSpot: Treister reveals that it's possible to beat cancer by being mutated into a (sentient) Hulk, but such a cure becomes a moot point as J.J. has to sacrifice his life anyway to save all the passengers on Gargantua-2.
* InstantExpert: Earned two Ph. D.s [[RuleOfFunny
in a world where month]], as revealed in the ''Fantastic Four'' season two premiere.
* JerkassToOne: Despite his huge ego, he's generally genial to everyone, except Rusty, who he treats like crap. He steals Rusty's contracts, teases him, mocks him, makes fun of him behind his back... It's not entirely without reason, as Rusty ate him while they were in the womb. Later, he reveals that he actually ''envies'' Rusty who, despite his failures, actually has family and friends who love him, something J.J. couldn't manage despite his intelligence and charisma.
* JerkWithAHeartOfGold: He has all of the arrogance and narcissism of his father, but
is one of the nicest and most moral characters on the show.
* KavorkaMan: His decent-looking face (almost an exact copy of his father's with
a comic book, beard) is his only positive physical trait. His body is otherwise malformed, being just two-feet tall and missing an arm. Despite this, he proves very popular with women and steals Sally Impossible from her husband just minutes after meeting her. It also helps that, despite his physical defects, he's he's incredibly wealthy, deeply intelligent, quite charming, and even went as them for Halloween one year (winning friendly when he needs to be.
* KickTheDog: Despite generally being pretty decent, he attempts to erase Rusty from
the prize for best group costume).
* TheFantasticFaux: Richard is almost a note-for-note parody of Reed Richards,
family history in "Now Museum--Now You Don't", right down to using editing to make it seem like a clip of Jonas Sr. saying that Rusty was his greatest creation was really referring to J.J. It's an unnecessarily petty direction to take his and Rusty's sibling rivalry.
* KilledOffForReal: During the pre-season six special "All This And Gargantua-2" where he, already dying from cancer, makes a HeroicSacrifice to pilot the space station's exploding nuclear core away from the escape pods, blowing up along with it. There's a brief moment where it sounds like Dr. Orpheus might have raised him from the dead, only for him to be talking about Dean's giraffe plushie.
* LateArrivalSpoiler: Due to his HeroicSacrifice at the end of "All This and Gargantua-2" and leaving his business and fortune to Rusty in his will. Anyone tuning into seasons six or seven to see Rusty going from RagsToRiches while living in New York City can deduce that J.J. dies.
* NaiveNewcomer: Weirdly, it's both his greatest strength and greatest weakness. Due
to being a scientist newcomer into the world of {{Science Hero}}es, superheroes, and villains, and not having any of his brother's {{Freudian Excuse}}s, he's able to easily shake things up in the world very quickly. He creates a functioning space station that even surpasses his father's Gargantua-1, invents equivalents to the [=iPad=] and [=iPhone=], and creates a sustainable business empire that focuses on more down-to-earth science. It leaves him with rubber abilities, virtually none of the hangups of a lifetime boy adventurer, scientist, or sidekick, too. However, unlike his brother, (who has SeenItAll, repeatedly) this leaves him rather GenreBlind, trying to kill the Monarch unaware of the Guild's "escalating violence" response and even making a deal with the ObviouslyEvil Investors.
* NiceGuy: Can be rather smug and condescending, and does consistently treat Rusty like crap, but by the standards of the Venture universe, those are hardly the worst qualities around. He also seems to care for his nephews, was a loving partner to Sally, and even hired on Hector and Swifty after Rusty canned them.
* NoNonsenseNemesis: Due to his lack of experience regarding Guild matters, he is fully prepared to just kill the Monarch and his blow up his flying cocoon when "arched" in "The Lepidopterists". J.J. has to be told that he must adhere to the Guild's ContractualGenreBlindness by both the Monarch and Brock, something he finds baffling.
-->'''Brock''': I see, so you just want to kill the Monarch. Okay.\\
'''J.J.''': That seems like the sporting thing to do.\\
'''Brock''': You wanna what, shoot him? And all his men and his wife? You could steal his cattle, too. Maybe burn his village down?\\
'''J.J.''': It's an antiquated system! I mean, my father did this fake archenemy nonsense in the '60s! Maybe my brother is good with this namby-pamby "guy in a costume chases you around" nonsense, but I'm not.
* OutsideContextProblem: Played straight and subverted in different instances:
** J.J. is everything his brother could have been without [[FreudianExcuse his hangups]] and everything his father appeared to be on the surface. He has zero interest in playing make-believe with villains as he's too busy trying to actually make the world a better place through mostly practical applications of science rather than niche super-science.
** Unfortunately, even though he tried to operate outside the system, his unfamiliarity with the system is still a real weakness that puts him in danger. He winds up foolishly accepting financial backing from The Investors who pay him back by blowing up the Gargantua-2 space station he used their money to build. It's only through massive outside help and a HeroicSacrifice of his own that keeps the people inside from getting killed.
* PutOnABus: Spends all of season four off-planet working to complete a space station and is absent for the better part of season five as well. He finally returns fully in the pre-season six "All This and Gargantua-2" special, but turns out to be BackForTheDead as he performs a HeroicSacrifice by the episode's end.
* RedeemingReplacement: While he can still be rather smug and arrogant, he spends his time actually using his genius to actually improve the world in ways that even ''Jonas Sr.'' couldn't, much less Rusty, while being ''far'' less sociopathic than his father. By the time of his death, he has created a billion-dollar tech company and even [[FaceDeathWithDignity Faces Death With Dignity]] while performing a HeroicSacrifice. (Compare that with how his father staved off death and planned to resume his life in season seven.)
* TheResenter: Downplayed, but qualifies. Despite being more successful and intelligent than Rusty, he is bitter about not being regarded as the son of the late, great Jonas Venture. In his first appearance, this drives him to try and ''kill'' Rusty. He's since mellowed out, but has been shown trying to erase Rusty's boyhood accomplishments from memory and replace them with himself. Before his death, he even admits that the ''envies'' Rusty, who despite his failures, has friends and family who care about it.
* SecretlyDying: He's wearing a wig during "All This and Gargauntua-2" to hide the fact that he's bald from the public, having seemingly attempted to undergo chemotherapy and failed in his attempt to survive cancer.
* ShorterMeansSmarter: JJ, who obtained two doctorates in a ''month'' and launched a multi-billion dollar company in about a ''year'', is easily the shortest regular cast member in the show.
* SmugSuper: Like his father, J.J. develops a rather obtrusive ego
with his ForScience sociopathy played up. The rest of massive intellect, though it tends to come out most when he's under stress. It's really his group includes his wife Sally, who can only turn her ''skin'' invisible, Sally's mentally-impaired cousin Ned, whose skin became one giant callous, major character flaw, as he's otherwise a far better and Sally's brother Cody, who bursts into flame if kinder man than his skin touches oxygen (and father ever was.
* TheTopicOfCancer: He's dying from cancer in his final appearance in "All This and Gargantua-2", though he dies via HeroicSacrifice before it takes him.
* VocalEvolution: In his first appearance, he had a deep, raspy voice. Afterward, he gained a smooth and smug voice to go along
with no immunity his role as AlwaysSomeoneBetter to burning). The parody plays up the darker aspects Rusty. (It's not clear if either one is an affectation, or possibly even ''both''.)
* YankTheDogsChain: He manages to drop his fratricidal rage towards Rusty and does a fair amount of good with his portion
of the ''FF'' and turns them up Venture estate, only to eleven, be diagnosed with the team eventually falling apart and Impossible becoming an antagonist cancer after season five.
* YourDaysAreNumbered: Reveals
in later seasons.
* FreakLabAccident: How they all ended up with their "powers". It happens offscreen
"All This And Gargantua-2" that his organs are failing as he's dying from cancer. He performs a HeroicSacrifice before the series and is left ambiguous about what actually took place.disease takes him out.



[[folder:Professor Richard Impossible]]
->'''Voiced by''': Creator/StephenColbert (Seasons 1, 2 and 6), Creator/BillHader (Season 4), Peter [=McCulloch=] (The Terrible Secret of Turtle Bay)
->''(When asked by Sally about what's more important than family) "Sciiiennnceee?"''
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A fellow super-scientist and CaptainErsatz of ''Franchise/FantasticFour'' leader Reed Richards AKA Mr. Fantastic, but much, much darker. At first, he seemed just like his counterpart... and then it was revealed his fellow members got useless, or in one case harmful, powers and that he kept them under wraps to save face. Doctor Venture won over his wife, Sally, while working with Impossible but left her behind when they left. She finally escaped with Doctor Venture's brother J.J. along with her and her son Rocket. He didn't take it well. He soon fell into a deep depression until his old buddy Phantom Limb convinced him to go over to the evil side while remaining a super scientist to the public. He became a supervillain and part of Phantom Limb's Revenge Society until it was dissolved after the destruction of Gargantua-2.

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[[folder:Professor Richard Impossible]]
->'''Voiced by''': Creator/StephenColbert (Seasons 1, 2 and 6), Creator/BillHader (Season 4), Peter [=McCulloch=] (The Terrible Secret of Turtle Bay)
->''(When asked by Sally about what's more important than family) "Sciiiennnceee?"''
[[folder:The Pirate Captain]]
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A fellow super-scientist
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->'''Voiced by''': Christopher [=McCulloch=]
->''"I'm really, really sorry about this whole mess, and, you know, the whole pirate thing is behind me now, and... plus, you kinda killed Steve,
and CaptainErsatz burnt my ship. So, if you could give us a lift out of ''Franchise/FantasticFour'' here I figure we'd just call it squaresies."''

The
leader Reed Richards AKA Mr. Fantastic, but much, much darker. At first, he seemed just like of the "ghost pirates" in the episode "Ghosts of the Sargasso". After his counterpart... and then it was revealed his fellow members got useless, or in one case harmful, powers and that he kept them under wraps to save face. Doctor initial encounter with the Venture won over his wife, Sally, while working family, he began living on the X-2 after having difficulties in finding a job. When Jonas Jr. acquired the ship, he hired the captain. He then resides with Impossible but left her behind when they left. She finally escaped Jonas Jr. on Spider Skull Island, fulfilling the duties of a butler, caretaker, and right-hand man. The Captain always refers to Jonas as "Chairman". As of season six, with Doctor Venture's brother J.J. along Jonas dead and Rusty in charge of [=VenTech=], the Captain now works for Rusty as his right-hand in running the company. Notably, he's the only person with her and her son Rocket. He any clout in the company that Rusty didn't take it well. He soon fell into a deep depression until fire on his old buddy Phantom Limb convinced him first day. He has never been referred to go over to the evil side while remaining a super scientist to the public. He became a supervillain and part of Phantom Limb's Revenge Society until it was dissolved after the destruction of Gargantua-2.by any name or nickname other than "The Captain" so far.


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* CombiningMecha: As part of Jonas Jr.'s "Ventronic", he forms the right arm.
* EveryoneCallsHimBarkeep: No name is ever given. He is only known as "the pirate" or "the Captain".
* GhostPirate: Was introduced as such, but it turns out to have been a hoax with the goal of scaring off the crews of passing ships so they could be robbed. He gets his own ship stuck in the sargassum and has been there for a decade.
* HeelFaceTurn: He was never all that evil, but did rob ships in the Sargasso Sea until the Ventures destroy his ship. He goes to work for J.J. and gets annoyed when anyone dredges up his "bad guy" past, but for the most part, is a loyal employee and a reliable right-hand man.
* HiddenDepths: A guy who spent a decade as the captain of a pirate ship stuck in the Sargasso Sea turns out to be a shockingly competent COO of [=VenTech=] under J.J. and then Rusty.
* IneffectualSympatheticVillain: He and his crew have been stuck for a decade in the Sargasso, and he fails rather miserably when attempting to take the X-2, getting his own ship sunk and some of his crew killed in the process. He undergoes a HeelFaceTurn after being hired by J.J., serving him well until his death and then Rusty as well.
* InstantSedation: Gets addicted to {{Tranquillizer Dart}}s after the O.S.I. agents use some on him in season three's "The Lepidopterists". He kicks until season six when, after getting tranq'd again, relapses and has to get through withdrawl cold turkey before beating it again.
* MonsterOfTheWeek: His booth at Rusty's "day camp" in "The Buddy System" touts the benefits of this career choice, as opposed to say, a "career supervillain" like those in the Guild. His own first appearance in the series is modeled after this type of character.
* OnceDoneNeverForgotten: As he complains to J.J., he was only a pirate captain once, for a brief period of time, but it's all anyone ever uses to refer to him, to the point where it's [[EveryoneCallsHimBarkeep used as his name]].
* ThePiratesWhoDontDoAnything: Hasn't done any actual piracy since his introductory episode, and even then, he was mostly just sitting stuck in sargassum with his crew and trying to spook passing ships so he could rob them. He still goes by "The Pirate Captain".
* ShoutOut:
** He is modelled after ''Franchise/ScoobyDoo''-style MonsterOfTheWeek villains, and makes a lot of specific references to that end (such as mentioning that he got to meet Cher and "the guy who was the voice of WesternAnimation/InspectorGadget"[[note]]Don Adams[[/note]], who both guest-starred on ''WesternAnimation/ScoobyDoo'').
** One he becomes COO of [=VenTech=] in season six, he frequently wears a black turtleneck sweater and blue jeans ala UsefulNotes/SteveJobs.
* SixthRanger: Serves the main Team Venture in season six following J.J.'s death, being the one most responsible for keeping [=VenTech=] up and running.
* TalkLikeAPirate: Constantly. Makes sense when he's introduced as a hoax GhostPirate, but continues to do it throughout the series, even upon becoming COO of a billion-dollar company like [=VenTech=].
* TechBro: Shows elements of it after becoming the COO of [=VenTech=] in season six, running around worrying about the company's stock prices (not unjustifiably) and dressing like UsefulNotes/SteveJobs, all while continuing to TalkLikeAPirate.
* TookALevelInBadass: He's introduced as the captain of a hoax GhostPirate crew who has been stuck in the Sargasso Sea for a decade robbing ships that pass by. Despite this, he apparently became a skilled enough sailor to re-rig a sloop and sail it with the help of Brock and Shore Leave to track an enormous mega-yacht from across the globe. Even further, by season six, he's become the COO of [=VenTech=], and the functional leader of the company in charge of running its day-to-day operations while Rusty spends all the money and plays the "[[ForScience super-science]]" game.
* TranquillizerDart: He develops an addiction to them after first being hit by Doe and Cardholder in "The Lepidoterists". He apparently kicks it, but falls off the wagon at the start of season six and has to go through a brutal detox.
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!The Impossibles

[[folder:General]]
A CaptainErsatz family of the ''Franchise/FantasticFour''.
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* BlessedWithSuck: Each of them except for Richard gets saddled with an actively detrimental "ability".
* DarkParody: The family was exposed to a SuperEmpowering event that left 3/4 of them with severe physical ''detriments''. It negatively impacts them to the point where Sally leaves Richard who, in his despair goes into a suicidal depression and eventually turns to outright villainy. A far cry fro their inspiration.
* ExpyCoexistence: They exist in a world where the ''Fantastic Four'' is a comic book, and even went as them for Halloween one year (winning the prize for best group costume).
* TheFantasticFaux: Richard is almost a note-for-note parody of Reed Richards, down to being a scientist with rubber abilities, with his ForScience sociopathy played up. The rest of his group includes his wife Sally, who can only turn her ''skin'' invisible, Sally's mentally-impaired cousin Ned, whose skin became one giant callous, and Sally's brother Cody, who bursts into flame if his skin touches oxygen (and with no immunity to burning). The parody plays up the darker aspects of the ''FF'' and turns them up to eleven, with the team eventually falling apart and Impossible becoming an antagonist in later seasons.
* FreakLabAccident: How they all ended up with their "powers". It happens offscreen before the series and is left ambiguous about what actually took place.
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[[folder:Professor Richard Impossible]]
->'''Voiced by''': Creator/StephenColbert (Seasons 1, 2 and 6), Creator/BillHader (Season 4), Peter [=McCulloch=] (The Terrible Secret of Turtle Bay)
->''(When asked by Sally about what's more important than family) "Sciiiennnceee?"''
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A fellow super-scientist and CaptainErsatz of ''Franchise/FantasticFour'' leader Reed Richards AKA Mr. Fantastic, but much, much darker. At first, he seemed just like his counterpart... and then it was revealed his fellow members got useless, or in one case harmful, powers and that he kept them under wraps to save face. Doctor Venture won over his wife, Sally, while working with Impossible but left her behind when they left. She finally escaped with Doctor Venture's brother J.J. along with her and her son Rocket. He didn't take it well. He soon fell into a deep depression until his old buddy Phantom Limb convinced him to go over to the evil side while remaining a super scientist to the public. He became a supervillain and part of Phantom Limb's Revenge Society until it was dissolved after the destruction of Gargantua-2.
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A tech start-up by Dr. Venture’s college friend Pete White and former child prodigy Billy Quizboy. The two are Venture’s closest friends and he frequently calls on them and serves as their primary source of income. Both have since moved to New York and work in Ventech Industries' super science department under Venture.

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A tech start-up by Dr. Venture’s Venture's college friend Pete White and former child prodigy Billy Quizboy. The two are Venture’s Venture's closest friends and he frequently calls on them and serves as their primary source of income. Both have since moved to New York and work in Ventech Industries' super science department under Venture.



* NiceJobBreakingItHero: His attempt to save Rusty and the rest of the people in Ventech Tower during the Season 7 premiere results in him [[spoiler:destroying Jonas' life support system.]] In all fairness, he was likely suffering a concussion as [[spoiler:Jonas arranged for him to be knocked out by a heavy wrench so he couldn't interfere with his hack of the tower. Of course, [[KickTheSonOfABitch Jonas Sr. really had it coming.]]]]

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* NiceJobBreakingItHero: His attempt to save Rusty and the rest of the people in Ventech Tower during the Season 7 premiere results in him [[spoiler:destroying destroying Jonas' life support system.]] system. In all fairness, he was likely suffering a concussion as [[spoiler:Jonas Jonas arranged for him to be knocked out by a heavy wrench so he couldn't interfere with his hack of the tower. Of course, [[KickTheSonOfABitch Jonas Sr. really had it coming.]]]]]]



* OlderThanTheyLook: He's roughly the same age as Rusty, Brock, Baron Ünderbheit, and the Monarch, but time's been rather kind to him. This could be a case of TruthInTelevision as Pete's albinism means he needs to take care of his skin and stay out of the sun, which has likely slowed the ageing process.

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* OlderThanTheyLook: He's roughly the same age as Rusty, Brock, Baron Ünderbheit, and the Monarch, but time's been rather kind to him. This could be a case of TruthInTelevision as Pete's albinism means he needs to take care of his skin and stay out of the sun, which has likely slowed the ageing process.



* LaserGuidedAmnesia: He doesn't know how he got his metal hand. He eventually remembers… or maybe Col. Gathers wiped his memory again.

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* LaserGuidedAmnesia: He doesn't know how he got his metal hand. He eventually remembers… remembers, or maybe Col. Gathers wiped his memory again.



** Interestingly, while he is a capable necromancer in both the original and popular sense of the word[[note]]communing with the dead and raising the dead, respectively[[/note]], he clarifies that the actual magic of necromancy isn't his preferred practice. He explains that most terms for a magic-user have become cliché or fallen out of favor in modern times, so he simply goes by "necromancer" not to seem silly.
* NeverMyFault: Blames the Outrider's youth and persistent advances on Tatyana as the reason for her leaving him, rather than examine his own shortcomings as a husband.
* NiceGuy: Seriously, he's the nicest guy in the show. And a good dad, too, at least compared to all the other ones on the show. (…but repeatedly wiping his daughter's memories of the portal to another dimension in her closet is quite the exception to this.)

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** Interestingly, while he is a capable necromancer in both the original and popular sense of the word[[note]]communing with the dead and raising the dead, respectively[[/note]], he clarifies that the actual magic of necromancy isn't his preferred practice. He explains that most terms for a magic-user have become cliché or fallen out of favor in modern times, so he simply goes by "necromancer" not to seem silly.
* NeverMyFault: Blames the Outrider's youth and persistent advances on Tatyana as the reason for her leaving him, rather than examine his own shortcomings as a husband.
husband.
* NiceGuy: Seriously, he's the nicest guy in the show. And a good dad, too, at least compared to all the other ones on the show. (…but (but repeatedly wiping his daughter's memories of the portal to another dimension in her closet is quite the exception to this.)



Another old friend of Dr. Orpheus, who is searching for the philosopher's stone ("as a metaphor for enlightenment") as well as a cure for AIDS. Unlike Twilight and Orpheus, it would seem that he is much less serious about his business and would rather mix business with pleasure; however, his true opinion on the Triad was revealed in the episode "Showdown at Cremation Creek", where he stated that he was more into helping the balance of the Universe than running around fighting one Super-Villain. It has been openly acknowledged that he is gay and a fan of Jimmy Buffett. He is sometimes referred to as "Al", but whether this is his real name or merely short for Alchemist is uncertain. He has an open hatred of the internet due to finding out his boyfriend was cheating on him via Website/MySpace. At least that's what he thinks happened after an O.S.I. mindwipe. [[spoiler:Actually, ''he's'' the one who broke up with his boyfriend after he met Shore Leave.]]

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Another old friend of Dr. Orpheus, who is searching for the philosopher's stone ("as a metaphor for enlightenment") as well as a cure for AIDS. Unlike Twilight and Orpheus, it would seem that he is much less serious about his business and would rather mix business with pleasure; however, his true opinion on the Triad was revealed in the episode "Showdown at Cremation Creek", where he stated that he was more into helping the balance of the Universe than running around fighting one Super-Villain. It has been openly acknowledged that he is gay and a fan of Jimmy Buffett. He is sometimes referred to as "Al", but whether this is his real name or merely short for Alchemist is uncertain. He has an open hatred of the internet due to finding out his boyfriend was cheating on him via Website/MySpace. At least that's what he thinks happened after an O.S.I. mindwipe. [[spoiler:Actually, Actually, ''he's'' the one who broke up with his boyfriend after he met Shore Leave.]]



-->'''The Alchemist''': ''"But being a magic superhero that keeps chasing the same guy? It’s completely gay. And that is coming from a guy that voluntarily has sex with men!"''

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-->'''The Alchemist''': ''"But being a magic superhero that keeps chasing the same guy? It’s It's completely gay. And that is coming from a guy that voluntarily has sex with men!"''



* WillTheyOrWontThey: With Shore Leave in "Operation P.R.O.M." [[spoiler:They did.]]
* WouldHurtAChild: Downplayed. He initially balks at the idea of punching Dermott, knowing he's just a mouthy teenager, but then the kid presses his luck.

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* WillTheyOrWontThey: With Shore Leave in "Operation P.R.O.M." [[spoiler:They did.]]
They did.
* WouldHurtAChild: Downplayed. He initially balks at the idea of punching Dermott, knowing he's just a mouthy teenager, but then the kid presses his luck.



* PowerPerversionPotential: He turns into Catherine the Great's horse so that he can [[strike:re-enact Catherine's supposed sexual encounter with it]] teach Orpheus a lesson about biting off more than he can chew, turns into Cerberus to [[strike:lick his own genitals and talk at the same time]] teach Orpheus a lesson about being a stuffy know-it-all, and takes the form of [[spoiler:Orpheus's ex-wife]] to [[strike:enjoy the curvy, sexy body]] hit Orpheus where it hurts the most. His shapeshifting always has a purpose and a point, but he milks the Perversion Potential as much as he can.

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* PowerPerversionPotential: He turns into Catherine the Great's horse so that he can [[strike:re-enact Catherine's supposed sexual encounter with it]] teach Orpheus a lesson about biting off more than he can chew, turns into Cerberus to [[strike:lick his own genitals and talk at the same time]] teach Orpheus a lesson about being a stuffy know-it-all, and takes the form of [[spoiler:Orpheus's ex-wife]] Orpheus's ex-wife to [[strike:enjoy the curvy, sexy body]] hit Orpheus where it hurts the most. His shapeshifting always has a purpose and a point, but he milks the Perversion Potential as much as he can.



* LaserGuidedAmnesia: [[spoiler: Whenever she finds the portal to the Burning Nowhere in her closet her father erases her memories of it. The Master eventually points this out to her and she doesn't tell her father about her latest visit.]]
* LimitedWardrobe: She always wears the same outfit, which is later [[JustifiedTrope justified]] because her father put a portal to a mystical realm in her closet and she has nightmares as a result, [[spoiler:seeing as she can venture into the closet to see the Master like her father, but Dr. Orpheus keeps wiping her memory every time she reveals the truth to him]].
* MissingMom: Eventually [[spoiler:leaves the Venture Compound to study magic with her mother.]]
* NotSoStoic: She seems to be an apathetic goth girl in the first season, taking her father's LargeHam tendencies and necromantic powers in stride along with the catastrophic super science escapades of the Ventures next door, but [[spoiler:the thought of Dean and Hank brought back from the dead by sorcery reduces her to trembling and tears.]]

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* LaserGuidedAmnesia: [[spoiler: Whenever she finds the portal to the Burning Nowhere in her closet her father erases her memories of it. The Master eventually points this out to her and she doesn't tell her father about her latest visit.]]
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* LimitedWardrobe: She always wears the same outfit, which is later [[JustifiedTrope justified]] because her father put a portal to a mystical realm in her closet and she has nightmares as a result, [[spoiler:seeing seeing as she can venture into the closet to see the Master like her father, but Dr. Orpheus keeps wiping her memory every time she reveals the truth to him]].
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* MissingMom: Eventually [[spoiler:leaves leaves the Venture Compound to study magic with her mother.]]
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* NotSoStoic: She seems to be an apathetic goth girl in the first season, taking her father's LargeHam tendencies and necromantic powers in stride along with the catastrophic super science escapades of the Ventures next door, but [[spoiler:the the thought of Dean and Hank brought back from the dead by sorcery reduces her to trembling and tears.]]



* PerkyGoth: A phenomenally well-adjusted example, especially for the daughter of a high-level, NiceGuy, LargeHam sorcerer. As of season four, she [[spoiler:[[PutOnABus leaves to study magic herself]]]], but her personality remains the same.

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* PerkyGoth: A phenomenally well-adjusted example, especially for the daughter of a high-level, NiceGuy, LargeHam sorcerer. As of season four, she [[spoiler:[[PutOnABus [[PutOnABus leaves to study magic herself]]]], herself]], but her personality remains the same.



* CorruptedCharacterCopy: Is very clearly one of Reed Richards, otherwise known as [[ComicBook/FantasticFour Mr. Fantastic]]. He's basically Reed devoid of all empathy and completely selfish, and a complete burden to society rather than a benefit to it. Hilariously, he actually predates a lot of Marvel's own deconstructions of Reed, like his extremely selfish [[spoiler: turned supervillain]] Ultimate universe counterpart, and the Council of Reeds.
* {{Deconstruction}}: His turn to the dark side is itself a deconstruction of the idea that HeroWithAnFInGood is better suited to being a villain as the same traits that made him a bad hero, such as his lack of empathy and absent mindedness, continue to hamper him in his new career path.
* DistinguishedGentlemansPipe: Usually seen with one [[spoiler:Eventually changes it for one that looks like a skull as part of his EvilCostumeSwitch]]

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* CorruptedCharacterCopy: Is very clearly one of Reed Richards, otherwise known as [[ComicBook/FantasticFour Mr. Fantastic]]. He's basically Reed devoid of all empathy and completely selfish, and a complete burden to society rather than a benefit to it. Hilariously, he actually predates a lot of Marvel's own deconstructions of Reed, like his extremely selfish [[spoiler: turned supervillain]] supervillain Ultimate universe counterpart, and the Council of Reeds.
Reeds.
* {{Deconstruction}}: His turn to the dark side is itself a deconstruction of the idea that HeroWithAnFInGood is better suited to being a villain as the same traits that made him a bad hero, such as his lack of empathy and absent mindedness, continue to hamper him in his new career path.
path.
* DistinguishedGentlemansPipe: Usually seen with one [[spoiler:Eventually Eventually changes it for one that looks like a skull as part of his EvilCostumeSwitch]]EvilCostumeSwitch



* HeelFaceRevolvingDoor: In the first two seasons he identifies as a "good guy" despite being very despicable. In season three, after Sally leaves him, he crosses the DespairEventHorizon and at least has enough good in him to attempt a HeroicSacrifice. Then in season four, he joins Phantom Limb's Revenge Society and embraces his inner evil. [[spoiler:Then in the special ''All This and Gargantua-2'', he leaves the Revenge Society after his ex-wife convinces him to leave with her instead of dying on the space station.]]

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* HeelFaceRevolvingDoor: In the first two seasons he identifies as a "good guy" despite being very despicable. In season three, after Sally leaves him, he crosses the DespairEventHorizon and at least has enough good in him to attempt a HeroicSacrifice. Then in season four, he joins Phantom Limb's Revenge Society and embraces his inner evil. [[spoiler:Then Then in the special ''All This and Gargantua-2'', he leaves the Revenge Society after his ex-wife convinces him to leave with her instead of dying on the space station.]]



* NotSoHarmlessVillain: While his lack of experience has kept him from being an effective supervillain thus far, it must be remembered that this is the same person who has devised a biological agent capable of turning living creatures into bombs and has harnessed [[spoiler:his brother-in-law's self-combustion powers]] to provide Impossible Industries with enough free electricity to go completely "green", all of which occurred before he decided to become a real supervillain.

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* NotSoHarmlessVillain: While his lack of experience has kept him from being an effective supervillain thus far, it must be remembered that this is the same person who has devised a biological agent capable of turning living creatures into bombs and has harnessed [[spoiler:his his brother-in-law's self-combustion powers]] powers to provide Impossible Industries with enough free electricity to go completely "green", all of which occurred before he decided to become a real supervillain.



* VillainDecay: Starts as a [[KnightOfCerebus pretty intimidating presence]] but after his TraumaCongaLine and Creator/StephenColbert [[TheOtherDarrin being replaced by]] Creator/BillHader he became about as ineffective as the shows other villains. [[spoiler:Thankfully [[EvilMentor Henry Killinger]] then showed up.]]

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* VillainDecay: Starts as a [[KnightOfCerebus pretty intimidating presence]] but after his TraumaCongaLine and Creator/StephenColbert [[TheOtherDarrin being replaced by]] Creator/BillHader he became about as ineffective as the shows other villains. [[spoiler:Thankfully Thankfully [[EvilMentor Henry Killinger]] Killinger then showed up.]]



* PetTheDog: [[spoiler:She still hates Richard, but saves him anyway cause he's Rocket's dad.]]
* PutOnABus: After "All This and Gargantua 2", she takes her [[spoiler:share of Jonas Jr.'s inheritance]] and goes elsewhere.

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* PetTheDog: [[spoiler:She She still hates Richard, but saves him anyway cause he's Rocket's dad.]]
dad.
* PutOnABus: After "All This and Gargantua 2", she takes her [[spoiler:share share of Jonas Jr.'s inheritance]] inheritance and goes elsewhere.



* YankTheDogsChain: She finally escapes her abusive husband, ends up with a man who truly loves and appreciates her [[spoiler:only for the said man to die just a few years later, leaving her only with her young child and mentally handicapped cousin.]] Though, this is mainly downplayed as she [[spoiler:was still given a huge amount of inheritance money, and is now the current owner of Spider Skull island]]. So her life is still leaps and bounds better than it was when we first saw her in the series.

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* YankTheDogsChain: She finally escapes her abusive husband, ends up with a man who truly loves and appreciates her [[spoiler:only only for the said man to die just a few years later, leaving her only with her young child and mentally handicapped cousin.]] cousin. Though, this is mainly downplayed as she [[spoiler:was was still given a huge amount of inheritance money, and is now the current owner of Spider Skull island]].island. So her life is still leaps and bounds better than it was when we first saw her in the series.
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* SpiritAdvisor: Orpheus visits him in his realm (through the portal in Triana's closet) to seek his advice on matters of magic (and just life in general).
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* ShorterMeansSmarter: He's one of the shortest regular cast members and an incredibly skilled surgeon (going as far as transplanting [[MultipleHeadCase one guy's head onto another guy]]) with deep anatomical knowledge (able to guide a submarine through Rusty's unconscious body seemingly from memory).
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* RealisticDictionIsUnrealistic: One of the more notable aversions in the series, and not just because of his speech impediment. He speaks like a realistic, slightly nerdy person with "ums", "ahs", pauses, and BuffySpeak.
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* PutOnABus: She moved in with her mother to study magic.

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* PutOnABus: She moved After recurring through the first three seasons, she moves in with her mother to study magic.magic in season four. She returns for the season four finale, then is never seen again.

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* PerkyGoth: Phenomenally well-adjusted for the daughter of a high-level sorcerer.
** She's now studying magic herself, but her personality remains the same.

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* PerkyGoth: Phenomenally A phenomenally well-adjusted example, especially for the daughter of a high-level sorcerer.
** She's now studying
high-level, NiceGuy, LargeHam sorcerer. As of season four, she [[spoiler:[[PutOnABus leaves to study magic herself, herself]]]], but her personality remains the same.
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* KarmaHoudini: He basically destroyed Billy's life, first ruining his reputation as a Quizboy by cheating for him, then losing both the money that Billy had been saving for college and the boy's hand by accidentally entering him in a dogfighting ring. After Billy's failed mission with the O.S.I., Brock brings him, memory wiped, into Pete's care (though Pete apparently felt horrible enough about it to attempt suicide before Billy had arrived). Over the years since, Billy has been the only competent member of their duo and, whenever Billy regains his memory, Pete takes him to have his memory wiped once again. Pete has basically avoided all consequences for his actions, aside from, well, being Pete White. It's really no wonder that Zero introduced Billy as "under the villain Pete White".

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* KarmaHoudini: He basically destroyed Billy's life, first ruining his reputation as a Quizboy by cheating for him, then losing both the money that Billy had been saving for college and the boy's hand by accidentally entering him in a dogfighting ring. After Billy's failed mission with the O.S.I., Brock brings him, memory wiped, into Pete's care (though Pete apparently felt horrible enough about it to attempt suicide before Billy had arrived).care. Over the years since, Billy has been the only competent member of their duo and, whenever Billy regains his memory, Pete takes him to have his memory wiped once again. Pete has basically avoided all consequences for his actions, aside from, well, being Pete White. It's really no wonder that Zero introduced Billy as "under the villain Pete White".

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