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* BewareTheSillyOnes: Matsson's initial introduction makes him seem like a standard 'mark of the week'--a boorish, eccentric tech bro doofus who pisses on phones. He proves to be one of the shrewdest operators in the series, outfoxing the Roys at every turn, seeing through their schemes and ploys, [[spoiler: and eventually succeeding in acquiring the company. It's important to remember Waystar was originally trying to acquire his company.]]
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* BullyTurnedBuddy: He and Oskar take a special dislike towards Greg––until Greg wins them over by revealing he's the one who is sent to fire people at Waystar. [[spoiler:It's ambiguous on whether it lasts after the acquisition, as Matsson openly calls Greg "Judas" due to him tipping off the Roy's about Shiv not becoming CEO.]]

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* BullyTurnedBuddy: He and Oskar take a special dislike towards Greg––until Greg wins them over by revealing he's the one who is sent to fire people at Waystar. [[spoiler:It's ambiguous on whether it lasts after the acquisition, as Matsson openly calls Greg "Judas" due to him tipping off the Roy's Roys about Shiv not becoming CEO.]]
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*BlackSheep: She's the "black sheep" of the Pierce family, suffering from narcotics addiction.
*TheConsigliere: Despite her addiction, she acts as Nan's closest advisor.
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* NoCelebritiesWereHarmed: Matsson is very clearly inspired by 21st century entrepreneur billionaires like Elon Musk and Peter Thiel, who are marked for their focus on tech and eccentricities.

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* NoCelebritiesWereHarmed: Matsson is very clearly inspired by 21st century entrepreneur billionaires like Elon Musk and Peter Thiel, who are marked for their focus on tech and eccentricities.eccentricities [[spoiler:and for not being real tech geniuses, just having the money to acquire tech and market it]].
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* AmbiguouslyBi: Is in a relationship with Kendall, and is said to have slept with Tabitha.
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[- [[Characters/SuccessionMainCharacters Main Characters]] ([[Characters/SuccessionLoganRoy Logan Roy]], [[Characters/SuccessionKendallRoy Kendall Roy]], [[Characters/SuccessionShivRoy Siobhan "Shiv" Roy]], [[Characters/SuccessionRomanRoy Roman Roy]], [[Characters/SuccessionTomWambsgans Tom Wambsgans]]) | [[Characters/SuccessionTheRoyFamily Extended Roy Family]] | [[Characters/SuccessionWaystarRoyco Waystar RoyCo]] | '''Other Companies''' | [[Characters/SuccessionPolitics Politics]] | [[Characters/SuccessionOtherCharacters Other Characters]]-]]]]]

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[- [[Characters/SuccessionMainCharacters Main Characters]] ([[Characters/SuccessionLoganRoy Logan Roy]], [[Characters/SuccessionKendallRoy Kendall Roy]], [[Characters/SuccessionShivRoy Siobhan "Shiv" Roy]], [[Characters/SuccessionRomanRoy Roman Roy]], [[Characters/SuccessionTomWambsgans Tom Wambsgans]]) Roy]]]) | [[Characters/SuccessionTheRoyFamily Extended Roy Family]] | [[Characters/SuccessionWaystarRoyco Waystar RoyCo]] | '''Other Companies''' | [[Characters/SuccessionPolitics Politics]] | [[Characters/SuccessionOtherCharacters Other Characters]]-]]]]]
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[- [[Characters/SuccessionMainCharacters Main Characters]] ([[Characters/SuccessionLoganRoy Logan Roy]], [[Characters/SuccessionKendallRoy Kendall Roy]], [[Characters/SuccessionShivRoy Siobhan "Shiv" Roy]], [[Characters/SuccessionRomanRoy Roman Roy]]) | [[Characters/SuccessionTheRoyFamily Extended Roy Family]] | [[Characters/SuccessionWaystarRoyco Waystar RoyCo]] | '''Other Companies''' | [[Characters/SuccessionPolitics Politics]] | [[Characters/SuccessionOtherCharacters Other Characters]]-]]]]]

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[- [[Characters/SuccessionMainCharacters Main Characters]] ([[Characters/SuccessionLoganRoy Logan Roy]], [[Characters/SuccessionKendallRoy Kendall Roy]], [[Characters/SuccessionShivRoy Siobhan "Shiv" Roy]], [[Characters/SuccessionRomanRoy Roman Roy]]) Roy]], [[Characters/SuccessionTomWambsgans Tom Wambsgans]]) | [[Characters/SuccessionTheRoyFamily Extended Roy Family]] | [[Characters/SuccessionWaystarRoyco Waystar RoyCo]] | '''Other Companies''' | [[Characters/SuccessionPolitics Politics]] | [[Characters/SuccessionOtherCharacters Other Characters]]-]]]]]
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* BigBad: The show is more focused on Logan as the BigBad who poisons his life, the lives of his family and the world as a whole, but Sandy provides the most openly antagonistic external voice: an unambiguous enemy seeking a hostile takeover. It takes until the middle of Season 3 to get resolved.

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* BigBad: BigBadEnsemble: The show is more focused on Logan as the BigBad who poisons his life, the lives of his family and the world as a whole, but Sandy provides the most openly antagonistic external voice: an unambiguous enemy seeking a hostile takeover. It takes until the middle of Season 3 to get resolved.

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[- [[Characters/SuccessionMainCharacters Main Characters]] ([[Characters/SuccessionLoganRoy Logan Roy]], [[Characters/SuccessionKendallRoy Kendall Roy]], [[Characters/SuccessionShivRoy Siobhan "Shiv" Roy]], [[Characters/SuccessionRomanRoy Roman Roy]]) | [[Characters/SuccessionTheRoyFamily Extended Roy Family]] | [[Characters/SuccessionWaystarRoyco Waystar RoyCo]] | '''Other Companies''' | [[Characters/SuccessionPolitics Politics]] | [[Characters/SuccessionOtherCharacters Other Characters]]-]]]]]

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* BigBad: The show is more focused on Logan as the BigBad who poisons his life, the lives of his family and the world as a whole, but Sandy provides the most openly antagonistic external voice: an unambiguous enemy seeking a hostile takeover.

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* BigBad: The show is more focused on Logan as the BigBad who poisons his life, the lives of his family and the world as a whole, but Sandy provides the most openly antagonistic external voice: an unambiguous enemy seeking a hostile takeover. It takes until the middle of Season 3 to get resolved.



* KickTheSonOfABitch: [[spoiler:He does his utmost to ensure that any deal with Waystar will serve largely to humiliate Logan, who's hardly undeserving of eating some humble pie.]]



* TheRival: To Logan Roy, with whom Sandy has a long-standing and bitter business rivalry.

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* TheRival: To Logan Roy, with whom Sandy has a long-standing and bitter business rivalry. [[spoiler:Sandy makes it to Logan's wake, smiling the entire time that he outlived his old rival.]]


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* VillainDecay: His health declines and he loses the ability to speak. Once his takeover is settled in Season 3, his remaining appearances do not present him as a threat, other than [[spoiler:voting to sell Waystar-Royco to Matsson in the finale.]]
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* AmbiguousSituation: The exact nature of his illness is unclear; syphilis is the rumor, but Waystar Royco execs are pretty sure it's a rumor ''they'' cooked up.
* ArchEnemy: To Logan; their exact history is unknown, but they're bitter business rivals and Sandy is explicitly described as the Pepsi to Waystar Royco's Coca-Cola.

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* AmbiguousSituation: The exact nature of his illness is unclear; syphilis is the rumor, but Waystar Royco Waystar-Royco execs are pretty sure it's a rumor ''they'' cooked up.
* ArchEnemy: To Logan; their exact history is unknown, but they're bitter business rivals and Sandy is explicitly described as the Pepsi to Waystar Royco's Waystar-Royco's Coca-Cola.



* TheManBehindTheMan: Sandy is the one puppeting Stewy. [[spoiler:However his health declines severely to the point where he isn't as in-control as he once was.]]
* ManipulativeBastard: He managed to plant himself within Waystar Royco and eventually instigate an attempt at a hostile takeover, all without Logan having no idea until the moment Kendall hands him the bear hug.

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* TheManBehindTheMan: Sandy is the one puppeting Stewy. [[spoiler:However using Stewy as a mouthpiece for his plans. [[spoiler:However, his health declines severely to the point where he isn't as in-control doesn't wield control as he once was.did; ironically his own daughter Sandi ends up speaking for him, but it's never made clear if she is making her own decisions in her father's name.]]
* ManipulativeBastard: He managed to plant himself within Waystar Royco Waystar-Royco and eventually instigate an attempt at a hostile takeover, all without Logan having no idea until the moment Kendall hands him the bear hug.



* PragmaticPansexuality: His scenes with Kendall are full of business/fucking subtext (Kendall telling Roman in “Lifeboats” that Sandy tried to fingerbang him, and Logan asking if Kendall opened his legs on the first date), but on both sides it’s a lot to do with taking daddy’s number one boy away from him, as well as Kendall being slutty and Sandy being a DirtyOldMan.

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* PragmaticPansexuality: His scenes with Kendall are full of business/fucking subtext (Kendall telling Roman in “Lifeboats” that Sandy tried to fingerbang him, and Logan asking if Kendall opened his legs on the first date), but on both sides it’s a lot to do with taking daddy’s Daddy’s number one boy away from him, as well as Kendall being slutty and Sandy being a DirtyOldMan.



* {{Foil}}: A thorough foil to the Roys, another wealthy family who owns a big media group. But unlike the conservative, toxic, new-money Roys, the Pierces are a matriarch-led family of liberal {{Bourgeois Bohemian}}s, seem like they're genuinely on good terms with each other, and old money (Logan calls them "blue-blooded fucks" and the FamilyBusiness has been mentioned to be theirs for 150 years).

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* {{Foil}}: A thorough foil to the Roys, being another wealthy family who owns a big media group. But unlike the conservative, toxic, new-money Roys, the Pierces are a matriarch-led family of liberal {{Bourgeois Bohemian}}s, seem like they're genuinely on good terms with each other, and old money (Logan calls them "blue-blooded fucks" and the FamilyBusiness has been mentioned to be theirs for 150 years).



* BitchInSheepsClothing: She makes a big deal of her moral superiority, but the best she can really say is that she isn't nearly as bad as Logan Roy...which isn't saying much at all.

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* BitchInSheepsClothing: She makes a big deal of her moral superiority, but the best she can really say is that she isn't nearly as bad as Logan Roy... which isn't saying much at all.



* BullyTurnedBuddy: He and Oskar take a special dislike towards Greg––until Greg wins them over by revealing he's the one who is sent to fire people at Waystar.

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* BullyTurnedBuddy: He and Oskar take a special dislike towards Greg––until Greg wins them over by revealing he's the one who is sent to fire people at Waystar. [[spoiler:It's ambiguous on whether it lasts after the acquisition, as Matsson openly calls Greg "Judas" due to him tipping off the Roy's about Shiv not becoming CEO.]]



* PsychopathicManchild: He's extremely immature and childish, preferring to play games on his phone and enjoying things like pissing on it, but also arrogant and cutthroat enough to spearhead a hostile takeover of Waystar Royco with the express intention of brutally slashing it down and rebuilding what's left in his own image, and explicitly tells Tom that he wants him to be a yes-man CEO who'll take all the heat.

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* PsychopathicManchild: He's extremely immature and childish, preferring to play games on his phone and enjoying things like pissing on it, but also arrogant and cutthroat enough to spearhead a hostile takeover of Waystar Royco Waystar-Royco with the express intention of brutally slashing it down and rebuilding what's left in his own image, and explicitly tells Tom that he wants him to be a yes-man CEO who'll take all the heat.



* CreateYourOwnVillain: Ebba tells the Roys [[spoiler: that she and the other GoJo execs essentially built Lukas's reputation as a self-made genius]], which fostered his ego and rise to power, now leaving her trapped working for a megalomaniacal manchild.

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* CreateYourOwnVillain: Ebba tells the Roys [[spoiler: that she and the other GoJo execs essentially built Lukas's reputation as a self-made genius]], which fostered his ego and rise to power, now leaving her trapped working for a megalomaniacal manchild.ManChild.

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* {{Manchild}}: Bordering on a PsychopathicManchild, except maybe not ''quite'' that obviously evil (yet). He's extremely immature and childish, preferring to play games on his phone and enjoying things like pissing on his own phone.


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* PsychopathicManchild: He's extremely immature and childish, preferring to play games on his phone and enjoying things like pissing on it, but also arrogant and cutthroat enough to spearhead a hostile takeover of Waystar Royco with the express intention of brutally slashing it down and rebuilding what's left in his own image, and explicitly tells Tom that he wants him to be a yes-man CEO who'll take all the heat.
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* TheBadGuysWins: [[spoiler: The main antagonist of the final season and about as close as the series gets to a one-dimensional bad guy aside from Mencken; Matsson gets everything he wants: he buys out the company, sees the Roy brothers humiliated, keeps Shiv in his orbit, and has Tom as his puppet CEO. He’s ready to begin breaking down Waystar into pieces. He sees no comeuppance for his faulty subscriber numbers, sexual harassment of Ebba, or bad business ploys]].

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* TheBadGuysWins: TheBadGuyWins: [[spoiler: The main antagonist of the final season and about as close as the series gets to a one-dimensional bad guy aside from Mencken; Matsson gets everything he wants: he buys out the company, sees the Roy brothers humiliated, keeps Shiv in his orbit, and has Tom as his puppet CEO. He’s ready to begin breaking down Waystar into pieces. He sees no comeuppance for his faulty subscriber numbers, sexual harassment of Ebba, or bad business ploys]].
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* [[spoiler: TheBadGuysWins]]: [[spoiler: The main antagonist of the final season and about as close as the series gets to a one-dimensional bad guy aside from Mencken; Matsson gets everything he wants: he buys out the company, sees the Roy brothers humiliated, keeps Shiv in his orbit, and has Tom as his puppet CEO. He’s ready to begin breaking down Waystar into pieces. He sees no comeuppance for his faulty subscriber numbers, sexual harassment of Ebba, or bad business ploys]].

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* [[spoiler: TheBadGuysWins]]: TheBadGuysWins: [[spoiler: The main antagonist of the final season and about as close as the series gets to a one-dimensional bad guy aside from Mencken; Matsson gets everything he wants: he buys out the company, sees the Roy brothers humiliated, keeps Shiv in his orbit, and has Tom as his puppet CEO. He’s ready to begin breaking down Waystar into pieces. He sees no comeuppance for his faulty subscriber numbers, sexual harassment of Ebba, or bad business ploys]].
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* [[spoiler: TheBadGuysWins]]: [[spoiler: Matsson gets everything he wants: he buys out the company, sees the Roy brothers humiliated, keeps Shiv in his orbit, and has Tom as his puppet CEO. He’s ready to begin breaking down Waystar into pieces. He sees no comeuppance for his faulty subscriber numbers, sexual harassment of Ebba, or bad business ploys]].

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* [[spoiler: TheBadGuysWins]]: [[spoiler: The main antagonist of the final season and about as close as the series gets to a one-dimensional bad guy aside from Mencken; Matsson gets everything he wants: he buys out the company, sees the Roy brothers humiliated, keeps Shiv in his orbit, and has Tom as his puppet CEO. He’s ready to begin breaking down Waystar into pieces. He sees no comeuppance for his faulty subscriber numbers, sexual harassment of Ebba, or bad business ploys]].
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* [[spoiler: TheBadGuysWins]]: [[spoiler: Matsson gets everything he wants: he buys out the company, sees the Roy brothers humiliated, keeps Shiv in his orbit, and has Tom as his puppet CEO. He’s ready to begin breaking down Waystar into pieces. He sees no comeuppance for his faulty subscriber numbers, sexual harassment of Ebba, or bad business ploys]].
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* HateSink: In a show full of {{Jerkass}}es, Matsson stands out as one of few characters who are never shown as sympathetic, redeeming or [[EvenEvilHasStandards having standards]] in any way, shape or form, not even when he [[JerkassHasAPoint has a point]].

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* HateSink: In a show full of {{Jerkass}}es, Matsson stands out as one of few characters who are never shown as sympathetic, redeeming reasonable, redeemable or [[EvenEvilHasStandards having standards]] in any way, shape or form, not even when he [[JerkassHasAPoint has a point]].
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* HateSink: In a show full of {{Jerkass}}es, Matsson stands out as one of few characters who are never shown as sympathetic, redeeming or [[EvenEvilHasStandards having standards]] in any way, shape or form, not even when he [[JerkassHasAPoint has a point]].
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The defacto head of the Pierce family and majority owner of PMG.

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The defacto head of the Pierce family and majority owner of PMG.PGM.



* {{Hypocrite}}: Some humour is drawn from the fact that she brands the bidding dispute of Logan and his children for the acquisition of PGN as "disgusting", while actively encouraging it.

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* {{Hypocrite}}: Some humour is drawn from the fact that she brands the bidding dispute of between Logan and his children for the acquisition of PGN PGM as "disgusting", while actively encouraging it.
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* {{Hypocrite}}: Some humour is drawn from the fact that she brands the bidding dispute of Logan and his children for the acquisition of PGN as "disgusting", while actively encouraging it.
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* PoliticallyIncorrectVillain: He cracks several rather prejudiced "jokes" at inappropriate times, notably trying to insult Kendall by deriding his numbers as "gay" in a childish, mocking manner.
-> '''Kendall''': "That's kinda homophobic, man."
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** Makes a particularly tasteless holocaust joke in regards to Kendall's Living+ presentation.

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** Makes a particularly tasteless holocaust joke tweet in regards to Kendall's Living+ presentation.
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* NoCelebritiesWereHarmed: Matsson is very clearly inspired by eccentric 21st century entrepreneur billionaires like Elon Musk and Peter Thiel.

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* BigBad: Becomes the main obstacle in the siblings way in season 4 after [[spoiler: Logan's death.]]



* EvilHasABadSenseOfHumor: Tells Shiv he’s been sending his ex liters of his frozen blood as a ‘joke.’

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* NoCelebritiesWereHarmed: Matsson is very clearly inspired by eccentric 21st century entrepreneur billionaires like Elon Musk and Peter Thiel.
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* {{NiceGirl}}: Out of any of [=GoJo=]'s team, Ebba is the most consistently polite towards the Waystar crew, and shows no real signs of malice.

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* BullyTurnedBuddy: He and Oskar take a special dislike towards Greg––until Greg wins them over by revealing he's the one who is sent to fire people at Waystar.



* NoSocialSkills: Matsson seems incapable of even the bare minimum of polite interaction with other people and either seems unable to understand how rude he is or just doesn't care.

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* NoSocialSkills: Matsson seems incapable of even the bare minimum of polite interaction with other people and either seems unable to understand how rude he is or just doesn't care. [[spoiler: He even embarrasses himself at the Roys' election tailgate by bad-mouthing New York––the city he is currently in––by comparing it unfavorably to 'better' foreign cities, and then dropping some gamer humor like calling Waystar's numbers 'gay'...in front of a room of stuffy New York bureaucrats]].



* SelfMadeMan: Created his own streaming app and coded it himself, and specifically notes he doesn't like the idea of another man/mentor figure leaning over his shoulder, insisting on independence and self-reliance.

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* SelfMadeMan: Created his own streaming app and coded it himself, and specifically notes he doesn't like the idea of another man/mentor figure leaning over his shoulder, insisting on independence and self-reliance. [[spoiler: This image is soiled when Ebba tells the Roys that Matsson isn't even a real coder and basically only took a pre-built app to market.]]



* StalkerWithACrush: Tells Shiv his head of comms Ebba used to be his girlfriend, but he’s been harassing her since then. Of course, it could all be a mind game with Matsson.

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* StalkerWithACrush: Tells Shiv his head of comms Ebba used to be his girlfriend, but he’s been harassing her since then. Of course, it could all be a mind game with Matsson. [[spoiler: But later confirmed to be true.]]


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* VillainRespect: Only shows Greg some friendliness when Greg regales him with tales of how many people he gets to fire (and how little he cares).
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!!Ebba
->'''Portrayed By:''' Eili Harboe

[=GoJo=]'s head of communications, who has some tensions with her boss Lukas.
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* CreateYourOwnVillain: Ebba tells the Roys [[spoiler: that she and the other GoJo execs essentially built Lukas's reputation as a self-made genius]], which fostered his ego and rise to power, now leaving her trapped working for a megalomaniacal manchild.
* {{Irony}}: Lampshaded by Lukas himself, but Ebba apparently has some form of social anxiety, despite being in charge of communications for a major company, which requires constantly meeting with people.
* SleepingWithTheBoss: Ebba and Lukas used to date, and Lukas has been harassing her ever since, which is causing some internal tensions in their operations.
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->'''Portrayed By:''' Jóhannes Haukur Jóhannesson

Matsson's second-in-command at [=GoJo=].
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* BigFun: Deconstructed. Oskar is a burly guy who loves to party, though he's less 'fun' and more boorish and malicious. Lukas even laments his 'number two' shows up to an important and politically tenuous party absolutely trashed to begin with.
* BullyTurnedBuddy: He and Matsson take a special dislike towards Greg, with Oskar even spitting at him and swearing at him at the Roys' own party––until Greg wins them over by revealing he's the one who is sent to fire people at Waystar.
* {{Jerkass}}: Oskar is shown to be as crass, buffoonish, bullying and cruel as his own boss.
* SmugSnake: He, along with most of [=GoJo=]'s team, is pretty clear about his distaste for the American execs from Waystar and takes a superior attitude towards most of them.
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* {{Jerkass}}: A blunt and pretentious prick who's a bit too comfortable shitting on others (such as plainly asking Roman when his father will die), complaining to Kendall's face that his party is boring, complaining he just wants to get laid while playing on his phone and not socializing, and seems overall totally self-interested. He thinks very highly of his creation and is noted by Kerry as "thinking he's a genius" and he treats most conversations as though he's having his time wasted.
** Taken {{UpToEleven}} in Season 4, where he [[spoiler: repeatedly belittles Kendall, is smug throughout his interactions with the American executives, shows no concern for Logan’s death and doesn’t relent in rushing through the deal, and even uses Logan’s death as an insult against Ken and Roman during negotiations.]]

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* {{Jerkass}}: A blunt and pretentious prick who's a bit too comfortable shitting on others (such as plainly asking Roman when his father will die), complaining to Kendall's face that his party is boring, complaining he just wants to get laid while playing on his phone and not socializing, and seems overall totally self-interested. He thinks very highly of his creation and is noted by Kerry as "thinking he's a genius" and he treats most conversations as though he's having his time wasted.
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wasted. This becomes worse in Season 4, where he [[spoiler: repeatedly belittles Kendall, is smug throughout his interactions with the American executives, shows no concern for Logan’s death and doesn’t relent in rushing through the deal, and even uses Logan’s death as an insult against Ken and Roman during negotiations.]]



* StalkerWithaCrush: Tells Shiv his head of comms Ebba used to be his girlfriend, but he’s been harassing her since then. Of course, it could all be a mind game with Matsson.

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* ArchEnemy: To Roman. While Matsson is a thorn in the side for all of the Roy family due to his intent to purchase Waystar, Roman is the one who consistently meets with him, and is disgusted with him all the way. It culminates in Roman giving Matsson a TheReasonYouSuckSpeech while meeting him in Norway, declaring him to be a sociopathic and greedy narcissist who only cares about his own profit. In turn, Matsson sees Roman and the rest of the family as beneath him, even as he promises them money beyond imagination.
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* CloudCuckoolander: He tends to be in his own little world much of the time and doesn't even seem aware of others. This isn't treated as endearing though as it leads to him being blunt and unpleasant to deal with.


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* NoSocialSkills: Matsson seems incapable of even the bare minimum of polite interaction with other people and either seems unable to understand how rude he is or just doesn't care.

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