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* ParentsAsPeople: He's trained Viktor to follow him as a fighter and his desire for Viktor to earn back the family honor has left him with a notable inferiority complex. But Ivan does love him deeply and ultimately proves Viktor is far more important to him than winning.
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* TheUnfought: Rocky never got to fight him, leaving the title belt his for the taking.
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* TheUnfought: TheUnfought:
** Rocky never got to fight him, leaving the title belt his for the taking.
** Rocky never got to fight him, leaving the title belt his for the taking.
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* TheBusCameBack: He returns in ''Rocky Balboa'' after being absent in all the other sequels.
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* SuddenSequelDeathSyndrome: A deleted scene in ''Creed II'' reveals that he passed away recently.
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* FamilyThemeNaming: His two legitimate kids are named Alex and Artemis, his illegitimate son is named Adonis and his granddaughter is named Amara. Notice a pattern?
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* FamilyThemeNaming: His two legitimate kids are named Alex Alexander and Artemis, his illegitimate son is named Adonis and his granddaughter is named Amara. Notice a pattern?
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* FamilyThemeNaming: His two legitimate kids are named Alex and Artemis, his illegitimate son is named Adonis and his granddaughter is named Amara. Notice a pattern?
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Feels unneccesary/repetitive to have the years when we already have the appearances
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!!!'''Played By:''' Creator/TaliaShire (1976-1990)
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!!!'''Played By:''' Creator/BurgessMeredith (1976-82, 1990) [[note]]appears in the fourth and sixth movies in archive footage[[/note]]
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!!!'''Played By:''' Seargeoh Stallone (II, 1979), Ian Fried (III, 1982), Rocky Krakoff (IV, 1985), Sage Stallone (V, 1990), and Creator/MiloVentimiglia (Balboa, 2006, Creed II, 2018)
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!!!'''Played By:''' Seargeoh Stallone (II, 1979), (II), Ian Fried (III, 1982), (III), Rocky Krakoff (IV, 1985), (IV), Sage Stallone (V, 1990), (V), and Creator/MiloVentimiglia (Balboa, 2006, Creed II, 2018)II)
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!!!'''Played By:''' Creator/CarlWeathers (1976-85)
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!!!'''Played By:''' Creator/CarlWeathers (1976-85)Creator/CarlWeathers
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!!!'''Played By:''' Wrestling/HulkHogan (1982)
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!!!'''Played By:''' Wrestling/HulkHogan (1982)Wrestling/HulkHogan
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!!!'''Played By:''' Creator/MrT (1982)
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!!!'''Played By:''' Creator/DolphLundgren (1985, 2018)
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!!!'''Played By:''' Creator/DolphLundgren (1985, 2018)Creator/DolphLundgren
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!!!'''Played By:''' Michael Anthony Williams (1990)
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!!!'''Played By:''' Michael Anthony Williams (1990)Williams
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!!!'''Played By:''' Tommy Morrison (1990)
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!!!'''Played By:''' Tommy Morrison (1990)Morrison
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!!!'''Played By:''' Antonio Tarver (2006)
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!!!'''Played By:''' Antonio Tarver (2006)Tarver
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!!!'''Played By''': Creator/JoeSpinell (1976)
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!!!'''Played By:''' Jodi Letizia (I, 1976), and Geraldine Hughes (Balboa, 2006)
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!!!'''Played By:''' Jodi Letizia (I, 1976), (I), and Geraldine Hughes (Balboa, 2006)(Balboa)
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!!!'''Played By:''' James Francis Kelly III (2006)
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!!!'''Played By:''' James Francis Kelly III (2006)III
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* BreakTheHaughty: After the events of ''Rocky IV'', his life imploded ''spectacularly''; he lost the respect and support of his country [[spoiler:and his wife]], and eventually wound up destitute on the streets of Kiev with a young son to take care of by the time of ''Creed II''.
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* BreakTheHaughty: After the events of ''Rocky IV'', his life imploded ''spectacularly''; he lost the respect and support of his country [[spoiler:and his wife]], and eventually wound up destitute on the streets of Kiev Kyiv with a young son to take care of by the time of ''Creed II''.
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* HowTheMightyHaveFallen: Ivan's reputation never recovered from his loss to Rocky, which resulted in [[spoiler: his wife Ludmilla divorcing him, leaving Ivan to raise his son Viktor in poverty in Kiev]]. Ivan hopes that he can restore both his reputation [[spoiler: and his marriage]] through Viktor.
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* HowTheMightyHaveFallen: Ivan's reputation never recovered from his loss to Rocky, which resulted in [[spoiler: his wife Ludmilla divorcing him, leaving Ivan to raise his son Viktor in poverty in Kiev]].Kyiv]]. Ivan hopes that he can restore both his reputation [[spoiler: and his marriage]] through Viktor.
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* MirrorCharacter: Neither Rocky nor Drago recovered from their fight. The former ended up losing his fortune, outlived Adrian and Paulie, and became estranged from his son, while the latter became disgraced by his country for his defeat, [[spoiler:resulting in his wife Ludmilla leaving him]] and leaving him in poverty on the streets of Kiev. Both men are also seeking to gain redemption through their protege, Rocky with Donnie, and Drago with his son Viktor.
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* MirrorCharacter: Neither Rocky nor Drago recovered from their fight. The former ended up losing his fortune, outlived Adrian and Paulie, and became estranged from his son, while the latter became disgraced by his country for his defeat, [[spoiler:resulting in his wife Ludmilla leaving him]] and leaving him in poverty on the streets of Kiev.Kyiv. Both men are also seeking to gain redemption through their protege, Rocky with Donnie, and Drago with his son Viktor.
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* OldMaster: In ''Creed II'', he's shown to still be in good shape, sporting a muscular build and exercising every morning in Kiev. This contrasts quite strongly with the [[DentedIron worn down, brain-damaged, cancer-recovering Rocky]].
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* OldMaster: In ''Creed II'', he's shown to still be in good shape, sporting a muscular build and exercising every morning in Kiev.Kyiv. This contrasts quite strongly with the [[DentedIron worn down, brain-damaged, cancer-recovering Rocky]].
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!!!'''Played By:''' Creator/BrigitteNielsen (1985, 2018)
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!!!'''Played By:''' Creator/BrigitteNielsen (1985, 2018)Creator/BrigitteNielsen
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!!!'''Played By:''' Creator/RichardGant (1990)
!!!'''Voiced in French By:''' Patrick Floersheim
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!!!'''Played By:''' Creator/RichardGant (1990)
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!!!'''Voiced in French By:'''Patrick FloersheimCreator/PatrickFloersheim
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* TheBrute: A much more conventional one; Drago is the musclebound champion sponsored by (or more accurately under extreme pressure from) the USSR.
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trope is about colorism IU
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* ButNotTooBlack: His father was Jamaican, which explains his slightly darker complexion.
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!!!'''Voiced in French By:''' Marc Alfos
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!!!'''Voiced in French By:''' Marc AlfosCreator/MarcAlfos
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* CaptainErsatz: Half Rocky Marciano (Italian-American origin, being relatively short and light for a heavyweight,[[note]]Marciano usually boxed around 180-185 pounds. Like many "heavyweights" from before the 1980s he and the vast majority of his opponents would be considered light heavyweights or cruiserweights today, though he still beat nine opponents over 200 pounds (albeit mostly bums). He was outweighed in 67% of his fights and out-reached in nearly all of them, a fairly unusual situation for a heavyweight champion (the 6'2, 215 lbs Muhammad Ali, for example, outweighed 44 of his 61 opponents, meaning he was only the smaller guy 27% of the time).[[/note]] relying on stamina and punching power), half Joe Frazier (Philadelphian, AHeroToHisHometown, eventually runs his own gym, trains by punching on meat, trilogy of fights with Muhammad Ali/Apollo Creed), and initially inspired by a Chuck Wepner fight. Pretty funny on the Joe Frazier part considering that he makes a cameo in the first film, where he wishes Rocky luck. The Rocky Marciano part is also lampshaded by a poster hanging in Rocky's apartment, and Micky pointing it out in the same film.
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* NoCelebritiesWereHarmed: Based on Chuck Wepner and Rocky Marciano.
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* NoCelebritiesWereHarmed: Based Half Rocky Marciano (Italian-American origin, being relatively short and light for a heavyweight,[[note]]Marciano usually boxed around 180-185 pounds. Like many "heavyweights" from before the 1980s he and the vast majority of his opponents would be considered light heavyweights or cruiserweights today, though he still beat nine opponents over 200 pounds (albeit mostly bums). He was outweighed in 67% of his fights and out-reached in nearly all of them, a fairly unusual situation for a heavyweight champion (the 6'2, 215 lbs Muhammad Ali, for example, outweighed 44 of his 61 opponents, meaning he was only the smaller guy 27% of the time).[[/note]] relying on stamina and punching power), half Joe Frazier (Philadelphian, AHeroToHisHometown, eventually runs his own gym, trains by punching on meat, trilogy of fights with Muhammad Ali/Apollo Creed), and initially inspired by a Chuck Wepner and fight. Pretty funny on the Joe Frazier part considering that he makes a cameo in the first film, where he wishes Rocky Marciano.luck. The Rocky Marciano part is also lampshaded by a poster hanging in Rocky's apartment, and Micky pointing it out in the same film.
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* HeelFaithTurn: [[WordOfGod According to Stallone]] he became an evangelist in the aftermath of his defeat (another [[CaptainErsatz parallel]] with George Foreman). [[WhatCouldHaveBeen He would have mentioned this had he appeared in Rocky Balboa as planned.]]
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* HeelFaithTurn: [[WordOfGod According to Stallone]] he became an evangelist in the aftermath of his defeat (another [[CaptainErsatz [[NoCelebritiesWereHarmed parallel]] with George Foreman). [[WhatCouldHaveBeen He would have mentioned this had he appeared in Rocky Balboa as planned.]]
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* KnowWhenToFoldEm: Near the end of Rocky V, He tries egging Rocky on to fight Tommy in order to make more money. When Rocky made it very clear that his fighting days are over, Duke then tells the camera crew to back up, seeing as he's wasting his time, and had Tommy not earned Rocky's rage and punch Pauly, that would have been the end of it.
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* KnowWhenToFoldEm: Near the end of Rocky V, He he tries egging Rocky on to fight Tommy in order to make more money. When Rocky made it very clear that his fighting days are over, Duke then tells the camera crew to back up, seeing as he's wasting his time, and had Tommy not earned Rocky's rage and punch Pauly, that would have been the end of it.
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!!!'''Voiced in French By:''' Jackie Berger (III), Rachid Ferrache (IV), David Lesser (V), Creator/AlexisTomassian (Balboa and Creed II)
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!!!'''Voiced in French By:''' Jackie Berger Creator/JackieBerger (III), Rachid Ferrache (IV), David Lesser (V), Creator/AlexisTomassian (Balboa and Creed II)
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* HundredPercentAdorationRating: Near-universally beloved as one of the greatest fighters of all time, even after his fall from grace in ''V''. By the time of ''Balboa'' he's still considered the hallmark of boxing.
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* LovedByAll: Near-universally beloved as one of the greatest fighters of all time, even after his fall from grace in ''V''. By the time of ''Balboa'' he's still considered the hallmark of boxing.
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* TheBigGuy: In the mid-ring staredown, Rocky is at eye level with his nipples.
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* TheBigGuy: In the mid-ring staredown, Rocky is at eye level with his nipples. He's strong enough to throw Balboa--a ''heavyweight'', mind you--like a ragdoll.
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* LightningBruiser: He' a full head taller than Rocky and able to pick him up and throw him around with ease, yet as Rocky himself notes, very fast for his size.
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* LightningBruiser: He' He's a full head taller than Rocky and Rocky, able to pick him up and throw him around with ease, yet and so tough that a chair to the head merely gets his ''attention''. Yet as Rocky himself notes, he's very fast for his size.size; he nearly blindsides Balboa at the opening bell.
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!!Rocky Himself
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!!Rocky Balboa
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->'''Played by:''' Creator/SylvesterStallone
->'''Voiced in French by:''' Creator/AlainDorval
->'''Voiced in Japanese by:''' Michio Hazama (I-IV, TBS dub), Creator/TesshoGenda (III, NTV dub), Creator/IsaoSasaki (IV onwards, TV Asahi dub) \\
'''Appearances:''' ''Film/{{Rocky}}'' | ''Film/RockyII'' | ''Film/RockyIII'' | ''Film/RockyIV'' | ''Film/RockyV'' | ''Film/RockyBalboa'' | ''Film/{{Creed}}'' | ''Film/CreedII''
->'''Voiced in French by:''' Creator/AlainDorval
->'''Voiced in Japanese by:''' Michio Hazama (I-IV, TBS dub), Creator/TesshoGenda (III, NTV dub), Creator/IsaoSasaki (IV onwards, TV Asahi dub) \\
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!!!'''Appearances:''' ''Film/{{Rocky}}'' | ''Film/RockyII'' | ''Film/RockyIII'' | ''Film/RockyIV'' | ''Film/RockyV'' | ''Film/RockyBalboa'' | ''Film/{{Creed}}'' | ''Film/CreedII''
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!!Rocky's Family and Friends
!!Adrian Pennino-Balboa
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->'''Played by:''' Creator/TaliaShire (1976-1990)
->'''Voiced in French by:''' Béatrice Delfe (I to IV), Françoise Dorner (V)\\
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->'''Voiced in French by:''' Béatrice Delfe (I to IV), Françoise Dorner (V)\\
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->'''Voiced in French by:''' Creator/SergeSauvion\\
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->'''Played by:''' Creator/BurgessMeredith (1976-82, 1990) [[note]]appears in the fourth and sixth movies in archive footage[[/note]]
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[[folder:Robert "Rocky" Balboa, Jr. (sometimes called Rocky Jr.)]]
->'''Played by''': Seargeoh Stallone (II, 1979), Ian Fried (III, 1982), Rocky Krakoff (IV, 1985), Sage Stallone (V, 1990), and Creator/MiloVentimiglia (Balboa, 2006, Creed II, 2018)
->'''Voiced in French by:''' Jackie Berger (III), Rachid Ferrache (IV), David Lesser (V), Creator/AlexisTomassian (Balboa and Creed II)\\
'''Appearances:''' ''Film/RockyII'' | ''Film/RockyIII'' | ''Film/RockyIV'' | ''Film/RockyV'' | ''Film/RockyBalboa'' | ''Film/CreedII''
->'''Played by''': Seargeoh Stallone (II, 1979), Ian Fried (III, 1982), Rocky Krakoff (IV, 1985), Sage Stallone (V, 1990), and Creator/MiloVentimiglia (Balboa, 2006, Creed II, 2018)
->'''Voiced in French by:''' Jackie Berger (III), Rachid Ferrache (IV), David Lesser (V), Creator/AlexisTomassian (Balboa and Creed II)\\
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[[folder:Robert "Rocky" Balboa, Jr.]]
!!Robert "Rocky" Balboa, Jr. (sometimes called Rocky Jr.)]]
->'''Played by''': Seargeoh Stallone (II, 1979), Ian Fried (III, 1982), Rocky Krakoff (IV, 1985), Sage Stallone (V, 1990), and Creator/MiloVentimiglia (Balboa, 2006, Creed II, 2018)
->'''Voiced in French by:''' Jackie Berger (III), Rachid Ferrache (IV), David Lesser (V), Creator/AlexisTomassian (Balboa and Creed II)\\
'''Appearances:''' ''Film/RockyII'' | ''Film/RockyIII'' | ''Film/RockyIV'' | ''Film/RockyV'' | ''Film/RockyBalboa'' | ''Film/CreedII'')
!!Robert "Rocky" Balboa, Jr. (sometimes called Rocky Jr.
->'''Played by''': Seargeoh Stallone (II, 1979), Ian Fried (III, 1982), Rocky Krakoff (IV, 1985), Sage Stallone (V, 1990), and Creator/MiloVentimiglia (Balboa, 2006, Creed II, 2018)
->'''Voiced in French by:''' Jackie Berger (III), Rachid Ferrache (IV), David Lesser (V), Creator/AlexisTomassian (Balboa and Creed II)\\
'''Appearances:''' ''Film/RockyII'' | ''Film/RockyIII'' | ''Film/RockyIV'' | ''Film/RockyV'' | ''Film/RockyBalboa'' | ''Film/CreedII''
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!!!'''Played By:''' Seargeoh Stallone (II, 1979), Ian Fried (III, 1982), Rocky Krakoff (IV, 1985), Sage Stallone (V, 1990), and Creator/MiloVentimiglia (Balboa, 2006, Creed II, 2018)
!!!'''Voiced in French By:''' Jackie Berger (III), Rachid Ferrache (IV), David Lesser (V), Creator/AlexisTomassian (Balboa and Creed II)
!!!'''Appearances:''' ''Film/RockyII'' | ''Film/RockyIII'' | ''Film/RockyIV'' | ''Film/RockyV'' | ''Film/RockyBalboa'' | ''Film/CreedII''
!!!'''Voiced in French By:''' Jackie Berger (III), Rachid Ferrache (IV), David Lesser (V), Creator/AlexisTomassian (Balboa and Creed II)
!!!'''Appearances:''' ''Film/RockyII'' | ''Film/RockyIII'' | ''Film/RockyIV'' | ''Film/RockyV'' | ''Film/RockyBalboa'' | ''Film/CreedII''
!!Spider Rico
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!!Clubber Lang
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!!Ivan Drago
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Appears in ''Rocky V''. A heavyweight champion who claims the belt shortly after Rocky retires. He is eager to challenge Rocky, but the fight never happens due to the health problems Rocky developed after the fight with Drago in ''Rocky IV''. He eventually takes on Tommy Gunn, only to be knocked out in the first round.
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!!!'''Voiced in
!!!'''Appearances:''' ''Film/RockyV''
A heavyweight champion who claims the belt shortly after Rocky retires. He is eager to challenge Rocky, but the fight never happens due to the health problems Rocky developed after the fight with Drago in ''Rocky IV''. He eventually takes on Tommy Gunn, only to be knocked out in the first round.
!!Tommy "The Machine" Gunn
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!!Mason "The Line" Dixon
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->'''Played by''': Creator/TonyBurton
->'''Voiced in French by:''' Robert Liensol (I and IV), Daniel Gall (II), Georges Atlas (III), Michel Vocoret (V), Emmanuel Gomès Dekset (Balboa)\\
'''Appearances:''' ''Film/{{Rocky}}'' | ''Film/RockyII'' | ''Film/RockyIII'' | ''Film/RockyIV'' | ''Film/RockyV'' | ''Film/RockyBalboa''
->'''Voiced in French by:''' Robert Liensol (I and IV), Daniel Gall (II), Georges Atlas (III), Michel Vocoret (V), Emmanuel Gomès Dekset (Balboa)\\
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->'''Voiced in French by:''' Robert Liensol (I and IV), Daniel Gall (II), Georges Atlas (III), Michel Vocoret (V), Emmanuel Gomès Dekset (Balboa)\\
'''Appearances:''' ''Film/{{Rocky}}'' | ''Film/RockyII'' | ''Film/RockyIII'' | ''Film/RockyIV'' | ''Film/RockyV'' | ''Film/RockyBalboa''
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!!!'''Played By:''' Creator/TonyBurton
!!!'''Voiced in French By:''' Robert Liensol (I and IV), Daniel Gall (II), Georges Atlas (III), Michel Vocoret (V), Emmanuel Gomès Dekset (Balboa)
!!!'''Appearances:''' ''Film/{{Rocky}}'' | ''Film/RockyII'' | ''Film/RockyIII'' | ''Film/RockyIV'' | ''Film/RockyV'' | ''Film/RockyBalboa''
!!!'''Voiced in French By:''' Robert Liensol (I and IV), Daniel Gall (II), Georges Atlas (III), Michel Vocoret (V), Emmanuel Gomès Dekset (Balboa)
!!!'''Appearances:''' ''Film/{{Rocky}}'' | ''Film/RockyII'' | ''Film/RockyIII'' | ''Film/RockyIV'' | ''Film/RockyV'' | ''Film/RockyBalboa''
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->'''Played by''': Creator/BrigitteNielsen (1985, 2018)
->'''Voiced in French by:''' Michelle Bardolet\\
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->'''Voiced in French by:''' Michelle Bardolet\\
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!!!'''Played By:''' Creator/BrigitteNielsen (1985, 2018)
!!!'''Voiced in French By:''' Michelle Bardolet
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->'''Played by:''' Creator/RichardGant (1990)
->'''Voiced in French by:''' Patrick Floersheim\\
'''Appearances:''' ''Film/RockyV''
->'''Voiced in French by:''' Patrick Floersheim\\
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Appears in ''Rocky V''. A powerful and extremely unprincipled boxing promoter who is trying to capitalize on getting current Heavyweight Champion, Union Cane, into a match with the legendary ex-champion, Rocky Balboa. Due to Rocky's injuries, both he and Adrian decline to take the bout, but Duke tries anything, and ''everything'', he can to coerce Rocky into it.
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!!Tony Gazzo
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->'''Played by''': Creator/JoeSpinell (1976)
->'''Voiced in French by:''' Marc de Georgi\\
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->'''Voiced in French by:''' Marc de Georgi\\
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->'''Played by:''' Jodi Letizia (I, 1976), and Geraldine Hughes (Balboa, 2006)
->'''Voiced in French by:''' Catherine Lafond (I), Léa Gabriele (Balboa)\\
'''Appearances:''' ''Film/{{Rocky}}'' | ''Film/RockyBalboa''
->'''Voiced in French by:''' Catherine Lafond (I), Léa Gabriele (Balboa)\\
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->'''Played by''': James Francis Kelly III (2006)
->'''Voiced in French by:''' Christophe Peyroux\\
'''Appearances:''' ''Film/RockyBalboa''
->'''Voiced in French by:''' Christophe Peyroux\\
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!!!'''Played By:''' James Francis Kelly III (2006)
!!!'''Voiced in French By:''' Christophe Peyroux
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!!!'''Voiced in French By:''' Christophe Peyroux
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--> '''Paulie:''' ...can I have a job?
--> '''Rocky:''' ...all you had to do was ask me.
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->'''Voiced in French by:''' Maurice Chevit (I), Jacques Dynam (II and III), Maurice Chevit (V)\\
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* EvilCounterpart: To Rocky in the first two films. Both are hard hitting southpaw brawlers from the streets and expanded materials give Clubber a criminal past. Clubber just takes it all up to eleven and has a {{Jerkass}} personality.
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* EvilCounterpart: To Rocky in the first two films. Both are hard hitting southpaw brawlers from the streets and expanded materials give Clubber a criminal past. ''Rocky III'' even shows Clubber training alone and pushing himself to his limits, in contrast to Rocky who had been pampered and grown complacent as a champ. Clubber just takes it all up to eleven and has a {{Jerkass}} personality.
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* ContrastingSequelAntagonist: In all the other ''Rocky'' and ''Creed'' films, the main antagonist is another boxer that Rocky spends the film training to fight. Rather than posing a physical threat, Duke is a scheming fight promoter and manager who tries to convince Rocky to come out of retirement, and resorts to various underhanded, manipulative tactics to do so.
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* ContrastingSequelAntagonist: In all the other ''Rocky'' and ''Creed'' films, the main antagonist is another boxer that Rocky (and later Adonis Creed) spends the film training to fight. Rather than posing a physical threat, Duke is a scheming fight promoter and manager who tries to convince Rocky to come out of retirement, and resorts to various underhanded, manipulative tactics to do so.
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* KarmaHoudini: His punishment for turning Tommy against Rocky and ruining Tommy's career is... [[DisproportionateRetribution to be punched by Rocky onto the front of a car]]. Though this feeling is somewhat softened by the fact that he has presumably also lost Tommy's trust and respect. Also Rocky and Tommy having the street fight at the end of the climax ruined Duke's chance of making money off a boxing match between the two which had been his primary motive through out the second half of the movie.
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* KarmaHoudini: His punishment for turning Tommy against Rocky and ruining Tommy's career is... [[DisproportionateRetribution to be punched by Rocky onto the front of a car]].car. Though this feeling is somewhat softened by the fact that he has presumably also lost Tommy's trust and respect. Also Rocky and Tommy having the street fight at the end of the climax ruined Duke's chance of making money off a boxing match between the two which had been his primary motive through out the second half of the movie.
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* NoCelebritiesWereHarmed: An {{Expy}} of UsefulNotes/MuhammadAli and George Foreman. He has the showmanship, charisma, outrageous nicknames, floaty style, and rivalry with the Frazier-equivalent of the former, combined with the patriotism, unstoppable reputation, brawling style, and knockout power of the latter.[[note]]Ali was something of a powder-puncher, only knocking out 15 of his 33 200+ pound opponents (45%; he had a better record against sub-200 opponents, but those wouldn't even be considered heavyweights nowadays) and usually relying on out-jabbing (using his relatively long reach) or running (or crooked judges) to take a decision. He often struggled in his fights and could suffer hard licks even against mid-level cruisers like Henry Cooper or Doug Jones. He admitted that Quarry, Williams, Frazier, and Chuvalo, among others, hit harder than him, and none of these men are exactly knockout artists. Foreman on the other hand was a wrecking ball, knocking out 53 of his 64 200+ pound opponents (83%) and demolishing most of his opponents in early round [[CurbStompBattle Curb Stomp Battles]], including guys who gave Ali hard fights that went the distance like Frazier, Norton, and Chuvalo. Ali was notoriously rebellious towards his country's government, famously going to jail for refusing to fight in the Vietnam War and repeatedly proselytizing about black separatism and the downfall of America (though he mellowed out somewhat later in his career). Foreman made repeated statements about how much he loved his country (he got an award from the American Legion) and proudly held up an American flag at the 1968 Olympics, despite this being only a few years after the Civil Rights Act and near the height of American involvement in the Vietnam War. Interestingly, Foreman earned said gold medal by absolutely demolishing a ''Soviet'' heavyweight; yeah, he had better luck in his USA-USSR bout than poor Creed did.[[/note]]
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* NoCelebritiesWereHarmed: An {{Expy}} of UsefulNotes/MuhammadAli and George Foreman. He has the showmanship, charisma, outrageous nicknames, floaty style, and rivalry with the Frazier-equivalent of the former, combined with the patriotism, unstoppable reputation, brawling style, and knockout power of the latter.[[note]]Ali was something of a powder-puncher, only knocking out 15 of his 33 200+ pound opponents (45%; he had a better record against sub-200 opponents, but those wouldn't even be considered heavyweights nowadays) and usually relying on out-jabbing (using his relatively long reach) or running (or crooked judges) to take a decision. He often struggled in his fights and could suffer hard licks even against mid-level cruisers like Henry Cooper or Doug Jones. He admitted that Quarry, Williams, Frazier, and Chuvalo, among others, hit harder than him, and none of these men are exactly knockout artists. Foreman on the other hand was a wrecking ball, knocking out 53 of his 64 200+ pound opponents (83%) and demolishing most of his opponents in early round [[CurbStompBattle Curb Stomp Battles]], including guys who gave Ali hard fights that went the distance like Frazier, Norton, and Chuvalo. Ali was notoriously rebellious towards his country's government, famously going to jail for refusing to fight in the Vietnam War and repeatedly proselytizing about black separatism and the downfall of America (though he mellowed out somewhat later in his career). Foreman made repeated statements about how much he loved his country (he got an award from the American Legion) and proudly held up an American flag at the 1968 Olympics, despite this being only a few years after the Civil Rights Act and near the height of American involvement in the Vietnam War. Interestingly, Foreman earned said gold medal by absolutely demolishing a ''Soviet'' heavyweight; yeah, he had better luck in his USA-USSR bout than poor Creed did.[[/note]][[/note]] He also has 70s Foreman's hairstyle and mustache.
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* DeathGlare: Delivers a couple of ''epic'' ones in III. The first instance is when she's introduced to "Thunderlips", the gigantic brute of a wrestler who just tossed her husband around like a ragdoll. And the second is when she spies a female groupie steal a smooch from Rocky during his public training exhibition.
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* DeathGlare: Delivers a couple of ''epic'' ones in III. The first instance is when she's introduced to "Thunderlips", the gigantic brute of a wrestler who just tossed her husband around like a ragdoll. And the second is when she spies a female groupie steal a smooch from Rocky during his public training exhibition.[[note]] Said groupie happened to be Stallone’s real-life wife at the time, Sasha Czack.[[/note]]
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* IgnoredEpiphany: Tommy has a visible moment of doubt when Rocky lectures him about how Duke is using him and only cares about the money. It's clear that the remark briefly gets Tommy thinking, but he quickly pushes it aside because he's too lost in his anger.
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* OnlyInItForTheMoney: He doesn't care if one match with Rocky could possibly disable him, or even kill him. What matters to him is that he profits from the match, and he'll do anything to make that happen. Sometimes, he's so ''open'' about his greed and the pursuit of money that he sounds like a CardCarryingVillain.
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* OnlyInItForTheMoney: He doesn't care if one last match with Rocky could possibly disable him, Rocky, or even kill him. What matters to him Duke is that he profits from the match, and he'll do anything to make that happen. Sometimes, he's so ''open'' about his greed and the pursuit of money that he sounds like a CardCarryingVillain.CardCarryingVillain.
* PragmaticVillainy: When Tommy punches Paulie, Duke ''leaps'' in to stop Tommy (although too late to stop Tommy before the punch lands) and then angrily lectures Tommy after the fact. He's not doing this because [[EvenEvilHasStandards he's upset at Tommy for attacking a bystander]] or even the bad press that might come from it, but because he doesn't want Tommy to take any chance on injuring himself and harming his career punching some nobody.
* PragmaticVillainy: When Tommy punches Paulie, Duke ''leaps'' in to stop Tommy (although too late to stop Tommy before the punch lands) and then angrily lectures Tommy after the fact. He's not doing this because [[EvenEvilHasStandards he's upset at Tommy for attacking a bystander]] or even the bad press that might come from it, but because he doesn't want Tommy to take any chance on injuring himself and harming his career punching some nobody.
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* BrutalHonesty /CassandraTruth: He was one of the few people (in Apollo's camp or out of it) who realized just how serious a potential threat the previously unknown underdog Rocky really was, and tried to warn Apollo not to take the challenger lightly. And in II, when Apollo is relentlessly pursuing a rematch against Balboa, Tony tells his protege' that in no uncertain terms a Creed victory in the second bout would by no means be certain:
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* BrutalHonesty /CassandraTruth: BrutalHonesty: He was one of the few people (in Apollo's camp or out of it) who realized just how serious a potential threat the previously unknown underdog Rocky really was, and tried to warn Apollo not to take the challenger lightly. And in II, when Apollo is relentlessly pursuing a rematch against Balboa, Tony tells his protege' that in no uncertain terms a Creed victory in the second bout would by no means be certain:
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* DemotedToExtra: In ''Rocky V'', he only briefly appears at the beginning and disappears from the rest of the film after the main plot kicks off.
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* CorruptCorporateExecutive: Of the fight promoter variety. He's a greedy boxing promoter, and is notably the only villain in the ''Rocky'' series ''(Film/{{Creed}} included)'' that is [[HateSink genuinely hate-able]] and lacks ''any'' [[LikableVillain redeeming or sympathetic qualities]].
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* CorruptCorporateExecutive: Of the fight promoter variety. He's a greedy boxing promoter, and is notably the only villain in the ''Rocky'' series ''(Film/{{Creed}} ''(the Film/{{Creed}} films included)'' that is [[HateSink genuinely hate-able]] and lacks ''any'' [[LikableVillain redeeming or sympathetic qualities]].
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A previously-unknown liaison with another woman between ''III'' and ''IV'' conceived his illegitimate son, Adonis, who would go on to be the protagonist of ''Creed''
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A previously-unknown liaison with another woman between ''III'' and ''IV'' conceived his illegitimate son, Adonis, who would go on to be the protagonist of ''Creed''''Creed''.
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** In Rocky I he underestimates Rocky's tenacity and how hard he's training. His trainer Duke picks up on it immediately when he sees Rocky training in a meat locker, noting that Rocky looked "serious". Apollo dismisses Duke's concerns which leads to Apollo getting downed by Balboa in the first round and afterwards Rocky becomes the only fighter to ever go the distance with Apollo.
** In Rocky II Apollo is obsessed with the need to beat Rocky decisively. He even states that he while he won their first fight, he didn't feel as though he beat Balboa (knocked him out), and relentlessly seeks a rematch, training hard this time. During the bout, while he is more serious, his desire to knock out Rocky makes him fight in close quarters rather than just maintaining his distance and taking points using his longer reach and obviously superior jab. Apollo was good but there was no way he could avoid all of Rocky's hits at close range and slowly gets severely beaten over the course of the fight. In spite of his trainer, Duke, pleading with him to stay away from Balboa, Apollo is so intent on knocking Rocky out that he won't listen. This costs him the second fight in the end.
** In Rocky II Apollo is obsessed with the need to beat Rocky decisively. He even states that he while he won their first fight, he didn't feel as though he beat Balboa (knocked him out), and relentlessly seeks a rematch, training hard this time. During the bout, while he is more serious, his desire to knock out Rocky makes him fight in close quarters rather than just maintaining his distance and taking points using his longer reach and obviously superior jab. Apollo was good but there was no way he could avoid all of Rocky's hits at close range and slowly gets severely beaten over the course of the fight. In spite of his trainer, Duke, pleading with him to stay away from Balboa, Apollo is so intent on knocking Rocky out that he won't listen. This costs him the second fight in the end.
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** In Rocky I ''Rocky I'', he underestimates Rocky's tenacity and how hard he's training. His trainer Duke picks up on it immediately when he sees Rocky training in a meat locker, noting that Rocky looked "serious". Apollo dismisses Duke's concerns which leads to Apollo getting downed by Balboa in the first round and afterwards Rocky becomes the only fighter to ever go the distance with Apollo.
** InRocky II ''Rocky II'' Apollo is obsessed with the need to beat Rocky decisively. He even states that he while he won their first fight, he didn't feel as though he beat Balboa (knocked him out), and relentlessly seeks a rematch, training hard this time. During the bout, while he is more serious, his desire to knock out Rocky makes him fight in close quarters rather than just maintaining his distance and taking points using his longer reach and obviously superior jab. Apollo was good but there was no way he could avoid all of Rocky's hits at close range and slowly gets severely beaten over the course of the fight. In spite of his trainer, Duke, pleading with him to stay away from Balboa, Apollo is so intent on knocking Rocky out that he won't listen. This costs him the second fight in the end.
** In
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* NoCelebritiesWereHarmed: An{{Expy}} of UsefulNotes/MuhammadAli and George Foreman. He has the showmanship, charisma, outrageous nicknames, floaty style, and rivalry with the Frazier-equivalent of the former, combined with the patriotism, unstoppable reputation, brawling style, and knockout power of the latter.[[note]]Ali was something of a powder-puncher, only knocking out 15 of his 33 200+ pound opponents (45%; he had a better record against sub-200 opponents, but those wouldn't even be considered heavyweights nowadays) and usually relying on out-jabbing (using his relatively long reach) or running (or crooked judges) to take a decision. He often struggled in his fights and could suffer hard licks even against mid-level cruisers like Henry Cooper or Doug Jones. He admitted that Quarry, Williams, Frazier, and Chuvalo, among others, hit harder than him, and none of these men are exactly knockout artists. Foreman on the other hand was a wrecking ball, knocking out 53 of his 64 200+ pound opponents (83%) and demolishing most of his opponents in early round [[CurbStompBattle Curb Stomp Battles]], including guys who gave Ali hard fights that went the distance like Frazier, Norton, and Chuvalo. Ali was notoriously rebellious towards his country's government, famously going to jail for refusing to fight in the Vietnam War and repeatedly proselytizing about black separatism and the downfall of America (though he mellowed out somewhat later in his career). Foreman made repeated statements about how much he loved his country (he got an award from the American Legion) and proudly held up an American flag at the 1968 Olympics, despite this being only a few years after the Civil Rights Act and near the height of American involvement in the Vietnam War. Interestingly, Foreman earned said gold medal by absolutely demolishing a ''Soviet'' heavyweight; yeah, he had better luck in his USA-USSR bout than poor Creed did.[[/note]]
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* NoCelebritiesWereHarmed: An{{Expy}} An {{Expy}} of UsefulNotes/MuhammadAli and George Foreman. He has the showmanship, charisma, outrageous nicknames, floaty style, and rivalry with the Frazier-equivalent of the former, combined with the patriotism, unstoppable reputation, brawling style, and knockout power of the latter.[[note]]Ali was something of a powder-puncher, only knocking out 15 of his 33 200+ pound opponents (45%; he had a better record against sub-200 opponents, but those wouldn't even be considered heavyweights nowadays) and usually relying on out-jabbing (using his relatively long reach) or running (or crooked judges) to take a decision. He often struggled in his fights and could suffer hard licks even against mid-level cruisers like Henry Cooper or Doug Jones. He admitted that Quarry, Williams, Frazier, and Chuvalo, among others, hit harder than him, and none of these men are exactly knockout artists. Foreman on the other hand was a wrecking ball, knocking out 53 of his 64 200+ pound opponents (83%) and demolishing most of his opponents in early round [[CurbStompBattle Curb Stomp Battles]], including guys who gave Ali hard fights that went the distance like Frazier, Norton, and Chuvalo. Ali was notoriously rebellious towards his country's government, famously going to jail for refusing to fight in the Vietnam War and repeatedly proselytizing about black separatism and the downfall of America (though he mellowed out somewhat later in his career). Foreman made repeated statements about how much he loved his country (he got an award from the American Legion) and proudly held up an American flag at the 1968 Olympics, despite this being only a few years after the Civil Rights Act and near the height of American involvement in the Vietnam War. Interestingly, Foreman earned said gold medal by absolutely demolishing a ''Soviet'' heavyweight; yeah, he had better luck in his USA-USSR bout than poor Creed did.[[/note]]
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* ContrastingSequelAntagonist: In all the other ''Rocky'' and ''Creed'' films, the main antagonist is another boxer that Rocky spends the film training to fight. Rather than posing a physical threat, Duke is a scheming fight promoter and manager who tries to convince Rocky to come out of retirement, and resorts to various underhanded, manipulative tactics to do so.
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* DidntThinkThisThrough: [[spoiler:He intended Tommy to force Rocky out of retirement for a prize fight. He never counted on Rocky to say "my ring's outside."]]
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* DidntThinkThisThrough: [[spoiler:He intended DidntThinkThisThrough:
** [[spoiler:Duke ultimately succeeds in getting Tommyto force and Rocky out of retirement for a prize fight. He to fight each other, but he never counted on Rocky convincing Tommy to say "my ring's outside."]]fight him there and then, instead of waiting for an official boxing match.]]
** [[spoiler:After Rocky beats Tommy and approaches him in a threatening manner, Duke threatens to take him to court if he lays a finger on him. But since Rocky no longer has his fortune and is right back where he started, he has nothing to lose, so he ultimately decides to give Duke exactly what he deserves.]]
--> [[spoiler:'''Duke:''' Touch me and I'll sue.]]
--> [[spoiler:'''Rocky:''' ''(uppercuts Duke, launching him onto his car)'' Sue me for ''what?!'']]
** [[spoiler:Duke ultimately succeeds in getting Tommy
** [[spoiler:After Rocky beats Tommy and approaches him in a threatening manner, Duke threatens to take him to court if he lays a finger on him. But since Rocky no longer has his fortune and is right back where he started, he has nothing to lose, so he ultimately decides to give Duke exactly what he deserves.]]
--> [[spoiler:'''Duke:''' Touch me and I'll sue.]]
--> [[spoiler:'''Rocky:''' ''(uppercuts Duke, launching him onto his car)'' Sue me for ''what?!'']]
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* LaserGuidedKarma: [[spoiler:He's willing to ruin the lives and careers of fighters by ignoring pesky issues like "health risks". At the end of the movie he gets a little taste of what fighters go through, and all his wealth and legal maneuvering didn't help him much. Doubly so if you believe the theory that he was responsible for Rocky losing his fortune, which is exactly what makes his threat to sue Rocky ineffective.]]
--> [[spoiler:'''Duke:''' Touch me and I'll sue.]]
--> [[spoiler:'''Rocky:''' *uppercuts Duke, launching him onto his car* Sue me for ''what?!'']]
--> [[spoiler:'''Duke:''' Touch me and I'll sue.]]
--> [[spoiler:'''Rocky:''' *uppercuts Duke, launching him onto his car* Sue me for ''what?!'']]
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* LaserGuidedKarma: [[spoiler:He's willing to ruin LaserGuidedKarma:
** He spends thelives whole film trying to convince Rocky to come out of retirement and careers face one of fighters by ignoring pesky issues like "health risks". At his fighters, first Union Cane and later Tommy. [[spoiler:Rocky ultimately does fight Tommy, but does so in an unsanctioned street brawl that Duke can't promote or profit from]].
** [[spoiler:After spending theend of whole film downplaying and dismissing the movie he gets health risks faced by boxers, Duke is given a little small taste of what fighters can go through, and all his wealth and legal maneuvering didn't help him much. Doubly so if you believe the theory that he was responsible for through when Rocky losing his fortune, which is exactly what makes his threat to sue Rocky ineffective.]]
--> [[spoiler:'''Duke:''' Touch me and I'll sue.]]
--> [[spoiler:'''Rocky:''' *uppercuts Duke, launchinguppercuts him onto his car* Sue me for ''what?!'']]the hood of a car.]]
** He spends the
** [[spoiler:After spending the
--> [[spoiler:'''Duke:''' Touch me and I'll sue.]]
--> [[spoiler:'''Rocky:''' *uppercuts Duke, launching
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* TookALevelInKindness: He becomes nicer with each installment despite his flaws never really going away. It's best demonstrated in ''Rocky V'' where, despite losing all of Rocky's money due to his incompetence, he helps Rocky Jr. deal with his bullies and [[spoiler:tells Tommy Gunn off for being ungrateful to Rocky for taking him into the family and insulting his honor.]]
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* TookALevelInKindness: He becomes nicer with each installment despite his flaws never really going away. It's best demonstrated in ''Rocky V'' where, despite losing all of Rocky's money due to his incompetence, he helps Rocky Jr. deal with his bullies and [[spoiler:tells Tommy Gunn off for being ungrateful to tossing Rocky for taking away after the latter took him into the family in and insulting his honor.practically treated him like family.]]
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* {{Jerkass}}: He uses Rocky just so he can get work from a loan shark collector, and later profits off of his match with Apollo, not to mention calling for a news interview with Rocky without his consent. He also tosses Adrian's Thanksgiving turkey in the yard in a fit of pique. It works, until the third movie where he is just a bum now, that is until he confronts Rocky, where Rocky lets him in his home with open arms.
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* {{Jerkass}}: Especially in the first movie. He uses Rocky just so he can get work from a loan shark collector, and later profits off of his match with Apollo, not to mention calling for a news interview with Rocky without his consent. He also tosses Adrian's Thanksgiving turkey in the yard in a fit of pique. It works, until the third movie where he is just a bum now, that is until he confronts Rocky, where Rocky lets him in his home with open arms. Afterwards, he does gradually become more of a JerkWithAHeartOfGold, though his issues don't fully go away until ''Rocky Balboa''.
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* TookALevelInKindness: He becomes nicer with each installment despite his flaws never really going away. It's best demonstrated in ''Rocky V'' where, despite losing all of Rocky's money due to his incompetence, he helps Rocky Jr. deal with his bullies and [[spoiler:tells Tommy Gunn off for being ungrateful to Rocky for taking him into the family and insulting his honor.]]