Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
* StarterVillain: [[spoiler:Ariq's betrayal and challenge to Kublai would foreshadow Kaidu's own subsequent uprising come Season 2. Unsurprisingly, this is TruthInTelevision[[note]]The Toluid Civil War (1260-1264) between him and Kublai would be followed, within a scant 4 years, by the aptly-named Kaidu-Kublai War (1268-1301), never to end until Jingim's son became Temur Khan.[[/note]]]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 140 (click to see context) from:
* AmbiguouslyBrown: His mother is apparently a [[UsefulNotes/Indonesia Javanese]] concubine.
to:
* AmbiguouslyBrown: His mother is apparently a [[UsefulNotes/Indonesia [[StatuesqueStunner particularly tall]] [[{{UsefulNotes/Indonesia}} Javanese]] concubine.concubine--which helps to explain why he grew to tower even over Kublai in adulthood.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
* GoingNative: So much of the earful and criticism he gets from the other Mongol nobility is his clear adoption of Chinese ways, traditions and mindsets--especially compared to the other potential Khans in their midst (like Ariq Boke and Kaidu). That said, [[DeconstructedTrope it can't be really said that he has assimilated]]: [[MySpeciesDothProtestTooMuch he's still as gruff, earthy and intimidating as any of the Mongols]] (especially when compared to the refined sensibilities of the Song).
Changed line(s) 69 (click to see context) from:
* HeroicLineage: His grandfather was Chinggis Haan, one of the greatest warriors to ever grace the earth.
to:
* InadequateInheritor: Kublai, in public, definitely looks and projects SuperiorSuccessor to the previous Khagans (some would say even Genghis). In private, despite his massive achievements and expanding the empire far wider than Genghis ever dreamed of, he seems to fear that he'll never be as well-remembered or loved as him. Season 2 amps this up further by implying that [[spoiler:his issues are further related to Kaidu--the grandson who Genghis clearly favored more to succeed his line when he was still alive]].
* HeroicLineage: His grandfather wasChinggis Haan, UsefulNotes/GenghisKhan, one of the greatest warriors to ever grace the earth.
* HeroicLineage: His grandfather was
* ExpositoryHairstyleChange: For most of Season 1, Jingim's hair is worn in a proper bun/updo while wearing robes, to further highlight his adoption of Chinese customs (and his alienation from the previous generation of Mongol nobility). By the eve of the attack at Xiangyang at the season finale, he has begun integrating Mongol-style braids not unlike the ones of Kublai, Byamba and his foot-soldiers, emphasizing his growing desire to truly embody the marriage of Mongol and Chinese mindsets he's been raised to.
Changed line(s) 123 (click to see context) from:
* MeaningfulName: Jingim is Chinese for "golden" and he often wears the color.
to:
* MeaningfulName: Jingim is Chinese for "golden" and he often "golden", and toften wears the color.color. [[spoiler:He is given this name to replace his original childhood Mongol name, Altai, by Hundred Eyes himself--meant to embody his hope: that while the Song Dynasty is too weak to hold on to power while Kublai is still too brutish to ever fully appease the Chinese, Jingim's succession as a good-hearted man might be more palatable to everyone.]]
Changed line(s) 142,143 (click to see context) from:
* ConflictingLoyalties: In season 2 he's torn between his father and his father-in-law, Kaidu.
* EstablishingCharacterMoment: His first major scene involves him killing an assassin then cutting off another's hand without hesitation( he was going to kill the second one too before Marco stopped him). His second major scene shows him directly and earnestly showed gratitude toward Marco for saving the Khan, his father. He was the only one who gave Marco credits and respect for doing this.
* EstablishingCharacterMoment: His first major scene involves him killing an assassin then cutting off another's hand without hesitation( he was going to kill the second one too before Marco stopped him). His second major scene shows him directly and earnestly showed gratitude toward Marco for saving the Khan, his father. He was the only one who gave Marco credits and respect for doing this.
to:
* ConflictingLoyalties: In season 2 he's torn between his father Kublai and his father-in-law, Kaidu.
* EstablishingCharacterMoment: His first major scene involves him killing an assassin then cutting off another's hand withouthesitation( he hesitation (he was going to kill the second one too before Marco stopped him). His second major scene shows him directly and earnestly showed gratitude toward Marco for saving the Khan, his father. He was the only one who gave Marco credits and respect for doing this.
* EstablishingCharacterMoment: His first major scene involves him killing an assassin then cutting off another's hand without
Added DiffLines:
** To an extent, he is also recipient of this from [[spoiler:his own grandfather, the legendary UsefulNotes/GenghisKhan]], as seen in the Season 2 premier, where [[spoiler:he as a child is shown greater attention compared to the young Kublai. That Genghis, at least in this narrative, clearly expected his line to continue with the House of Ögedei seems to be one of the sources of Kaidu's enmity with Kublai--apart from it also feeding Kublai's InadequateInheritor issues]].
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
* PetTheDog: He rewards those who have either done him a good service or proven their loyalty. Marco's survival throughout the show is heavily due to the favor he's earned from Kublai.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
* AmbiguouslyBrown: His mother is apparently a [[UsefulNotes/Indonesia Javanese]] concubine.
Changed line(s) 138 (click to see context) from:
* TheBigGuy: Towering over most other characters, Mongols included, and is one of the best warriors the Mongol has to offer
to:
* TheBigGuy: Towering over most other characters, Mongols included, and is one of the best warriors the Mongol has Mongols have to offer
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 136 (click to see context) from:
* BewareTheNiceOne: He's very nice and kind to his people and whom he consider friends, but God helps you if you are up against him in battle.
to:
* BewareTheNiceOne: BewareTheNiceOnes: He's very nice and kind to his people and whom he consider friends, but God helps you if you are up against him in battle.
Deleted line(s) 228 (click to see context) :
* Badass: Biggest one of the show
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 90 (click to see context) from:
* EvenEvilHasStandards: As brutal as Chabi can be as a Mongolian Empress, she's genuinely horrified at what Sidao did to Ling-Ling's feet. She orders her personal healer to fix the girl's feet no matter what.
to:
* EvenEvilHasStandards: As brutal as Chabi can be as a Mongolian Empress, she's genuinely horrified at what Sidao did to Ling-Ling's feet. She orders her personal healer to fix the girl's feet no matter what. She also opposes the murder of Zhaoxing.
Changed line(s) 93 (click to see context) from:
* KickTheDog: Shows Mei-Ling that her kid will live....and then tells her she will never see her daughter again.
to:
* KickTheDog: Shows Mei-Ling that her kid will live....and then tells her she will never see her daughter again. She also forces a peasant to rape Nergui.
Changed line(s) 115 (click to see context) from:
* EveryoneHasStandards: He's disgusted by the way Marco's father treats him, despite not liking Marco himself.
to:
* EveryoneHasStandards: He's disgusted by the way Marco's father treats him, despite not liking Marco himself. He also opposes the murder of the Boy Emperor.
Changed line(s) 171 (click to see context) from:
* EvilIsPetty: Develops an intense hatred for Marco.
to:
* EvilIsPetty: Develops an intense hatred Really fucking hates Marco, and is annoyed when Marco stands up for Marco.Mei Lin
Changed line(s) 173 (click to see context) from:
* HappilyAdopted: Ahmad was taken into Kublai's court as a young boy after the Mongols invaded his homeland. He sees the khan and empress as [[ParentalSubstitute parental figures]] and considers Jingim his brother. [[spoiler: Subverted when it's revealed that Ahmad is secretly planning to overthrow and kill Kublai]].
to:
* HappilyAdopted: Ahmad was taken into Kublai's court as a young boy after the Mongols invaded his homeland. He sees the khan and empress as [[ParentalSubstitute parental figures]] and considers Jingim his brother. [[spoiler: Subverted when it's revealed that Ahmad is secretly planning to overthrow and kill Kublai]].Kublai, then double subverted when it's revealed he DID once love the Khan. Then he found out his mom had been sold as a prostitute.....right after he'd fucked her. He didn't take it well to put it mildly]].
Changed line(s) 199 (click to see context) from:
* {{Hypocrite}}: Despite disdaining outside influence he works with Nayan and Niccolo to gain power. His main complaint about Kublai is that he cheated to win the Kurultai, and then he cheats to every advantage he can think of to win his election.
to:
* {{Hypocrite}}: Despite disdaining outside influence he works with Nayan and Niccolo to gain power. His main complaint about Kublai is that he cheated to win the Kurultai, and then he cheats to gain every advantage he can think of to win his election.
* NearVillainVictory: He manages to blackmail Kublai in the last episode and turns the tables on Kublai when the later tries to kill him. If Marco hadn't stabbed him in the back to save Kublai he would have won.
Changed line(s) 333 (click to see context) from:
* HistoricalBadassUpgrade: Jia Sidao is also portrayed as an extremely proficient martial artist that can fight Hundred Eyes to a standstill.
to:
* HistoricalBadassUpgrade: Jia Sidao is also portrayed as an extremely proficient martial artist that can fight Hundred Eyes to a standstill. He's also a cunning strategist whereas his real counterpart was an incompetent idiot who helped doom the Song dynasty.
Changed line(s) 354 (click to see context) from:
* BecauseYouWereNiceToMe: She helps Marco unravel Ahmad's plan because he was the only character in the series who actually treats her with respect (and as such the only one she trusts enough to ask to deliver her daughter)
to:
* BecauseYouWereNiceToMe: She helps Marco unravel Ahmad's plan because he was the only character in the series who actually treats her with respect (and as such the only one she trusts enough to ask to deliver her daughter)daughter). She even gives him a genuine kiss.
Changed line(s) 380 (click to see context) from:
* ChildrenAreInnocent: She's completely oblivious to all the plots and wars going on around her.
to:
* ChildrenAreInnocent: She's completely oblivious to all the plots and wars going on around her. Though she later indicates she has realized what Mei Ling has been doing.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
* TheHeart: His compassion and attempts at having a moral center is what differentiates him from most in the Mongol Empire. [[spoiler: And his good heart actually helps convince Mei Lin of betraying Ahmad.]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
* MyGodWhatHaveIDone: Chabi seems genuinely remorseful for [[spoiler: having a part in breaking Kokochin/Nergui's mind in the finale of Season 2.]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
* BadassBookworm: He does look like a bookworm compared to most other Mongols. But make no mistake. He's still among the best fighters on Kublai Khan's side and of Mongol as a whole, easily cut through lines of enemies and was only stopped by nothing less than Gunpowder
** Also seen in season 2, he quickly beat down a Mongol opponent who is literally two times his size.
** Also seen in season 2, he quickly beat down a Mongol opponent who is literally two times his size.
Added DiffLines:
* BewareTheNiceOne: He's very nice and kind to his people and whom he consider friends, but God helps you if you are up against him in battle.
Added DiffLines:
* TheBigGuy: Towering over most other characters, Mongols included, and is one of the best warriors the Mongol has to offer
Added DiffLines:
* EstablishingCharacterMoment: His first major scene involves him killing an assassin then cutting off another's hand without hesitation( he was going to kill the second one too before Marco stopped him). His second major scene shows him directly and earnestly showed gratitude toward Marco for saving the Khan, his father. He was the only one who gave Marco credits and respect for doing this.
Added DiffLines:
* GentleGiant: He's pretty much the only genuinely nice person among all the Mongol cast.
Added DiffLines:
* Badass: Biggest one of the show
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Badass is no longer a trope.
Deleted line(s) 219 (click to see context) :
* {{Badass}}: One of the most skilled warriors in the series, if not all the Mongol empire.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Badass is no longer a trope.
Deleted line(s) 59 (click to see context) :
* {{Badass}}: The guy gets a saber embedded in his wrist and uses it to catch his opponent's blade before he impales him.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
* NoSocialSkills: Downplayed. Hundred Eyes is certainly capable of talking to people, but he has a persistent problem of trying and failing to use diplomacy to solve problems. The only thing he can reliably use to have his way is force.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
*HiddenDepths: Not only is Noccolò a merchant, he is also an agent of the Holy See who works to annihilate the Mongols and is very proficient with a sword. A very different picture of the amoral smuggler one could have had of him in the first season.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 57 (click to see context) from:
* AdultFear: [[spoiler: He's horrified to learn that Jingim fell in battle.]]
to:
* AdultFear: [[spoiler: He's horrified to learn that Jingim fell in battle.]] And later in season two Jingim and Ahmad go missing]].
Added DiffLines:
** To Kokachin in season 2, though more on his end than hers.
Added DiffLines:
* TookALevelInKindness: He chills out considerably by season 2.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
* PapaWolf: His TranquilFury when Kaidu's actions cause Jingim and Ahmad to go missing is something to behold.
Added DiffLines:
* ConflictingLoyalties: In season 2 he's torn between his father and his father-in-law, Kaidu.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
* FriendshipDenial: Makes a point of this to Marco throughout season one. Eventually, Marco finally points out to him that it's not true.
Added DiffLines:
* INeedAFreakingDrink: Invokes this to Marco after the latter's duel with Jingim.
Added DiffLines:
* PetTheDog: Has a fair few instances of this to Marco.
* PressurePoint: Is capable of this, though it's generally not his first choice in a fight. Overlaps with TheParalyzer.
* PressurePoint: Is capable of this, though it's generally not his first choice in a fight. Overlaps with TheParalyzer.
Added DiffLines:
* ServileSnarker: Downplayed. Hundred Eyes knows that his whole existence [[spoiler: and that of his religion]] is at Kublai's mercy, but that doesn't top him from having some attitude.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 218 (click to see context) from:
* EstablishingCharacterMoment: Hundred Eyes demonstrates that blindness is no barrier to him by throwing the piece of fruit he's eating into the air, slicing it with is sword on both the way up and the way down, and then flooring Marco by kicking his legs out from under him.
to:
* EstablishingCharacterMoment: Hundred Eyes demonstrates that blindness is no barrier to him by throwing the piece of fruit he's eating into the air, slicing it with is his sword on both the way up and the way down, and then flooring Marco by kicking his legs out from under him.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 158,159 (click to see context) from:
* {{Expy}}: A devious financial minister [[spoiler:that plans on betraying his liege and ultimately seize the throne for himself? Say hello to the Marco Polo's own [[Series/GameOfThrones Littlefinger]]]]
** Though in fairness, this is what he really was like in real life, so it'd be more accurate to state that [[spoiler:Littlefinger is Game of Throne's Ahmad.]]
** Though in fairness, this is what he really was like in real life, so it'd be more accurate to state that [[spoiler:Littlefinger is Game of Throne's Ahmad.]]
to:
* {{Expy}}: A devious financial minister [[spoiler:that plans on betraying his liege and ultimately seize the throne for himself? Say hello to the Marco Polo's own [[Series/GameOfThrones Littlefinger]]]]
**Littlefinger]]]]. Though in fairness, this is what he really was like in real life, so it'd be more accurate to state that [[spoiler:Littlefinger is Game of Throne's Ahmad.]]
**
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
Changed line(s) 305,306 (click to see context) from:
* {{Badass}}: He's a martial arts master.
** BadassBureaucrat: He's a bureaucrat and at the same time a deadly practitioner of Tang Lang, the "Northern Praying Mantis" kung fu.
** BadassBureaucrat: He's a bureaucrat and at the same time a deadly practitioner of Tang Lang, the "Northern Praying Mantis" kung fu.
to:
* {{Badass}}: He's a martial arts master.
**BadassBureaucrat: He's a bureaucrat and at the same time a deadly practitioner of Tang Lang, the "Northern Praying Mantis" kung fu.fu.
* BigBad: The man keeping up the war effort with the Mongols, although he's not the highest authority in the Song dynasty, Jia Sidao is still the primary antagonist for season 1.
**
* BigBad: The man keeping up the war effort with the Mongols, although he's not the highest authority in the Song dynasty, Jia Sidao is still the primary antagonist for season 1.
Deleted line(s) 310 (click to see context) :
* DragonAscendant: Becomes the BigBad for Season 1.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
* BecauseYouWereNiceToMe: She helps Marco unravel Ahmad's plan because he was the only character in the series who actually treats her with respect (and as such the only one she trusts enough to ask to deliver her daughter)
Added DiffLines:
* NobleBigot: Does not have a high opinion of Europeans (and is in fact appalled that Hundred Eyes taught "a round eye" their skills.)
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
* SanitySlippage: [[spoiler: Throughout the second season. It starts with frightful emotional repression, and goes from there.]]
* StepfordSmiler: Engages in a lot of this, particularly once she [[spoiler: has been wedded to Jingim, and considers herself abandoned by Marco.]]
* StepfordSmiler: Engages in a lot of this, particularly once she [[spoiler: has been wedded to Jingim, and considers herself abandoned by Marco.]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
So it seems the trope name starts with 'only known', not 'known only'. Hm.
Deleted line(s) 221 (click to see context) :
* KnownOnlyByTheirNickname: Before entering the Khan's service, Hundred Eyes was [[spoiler: a Wudang monk known as Li Jinbao.]]
Added DiffLines:
* OnlyKnownByTheirNickname: Before entering the Khan's service, Hundred Eyes was [[spoiler: a Wudang monk known as Li Jinbao.]]
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 46 (click to see context) from:
* TrainingFromHell: A realistic take, Marco has to become a warrior before he can integrate with the Mongols, so it's miserable for him. Bayan is a harsh teacher, but he is thorough and not malicious.
to:
* TrainingFromHell: A realistic take, Marco has to become a warrior before he can integrate with the Mongols, so it's miserable for him. Bayan Hundred Eyes is a harsh teacher, but he is thorough and not malicious.
Changed line(s) 210,211 (click to see context) from:
[[folder:Hundred-Eyes]]
!Sifu Bayan Hundred-Eyes
!Sifu Bayan Hundred-Eyes
to:
!Sifu
Changed line(s) 216 (click to see context) from:
* AwLookTheyReallyDoLoveEachOther: For all his insistence that he's not Marco's friend, Bayan sure goes to great lengths to protect him.
to:
* AwLookTheyReallyDoLoveEachOther: For all his insistence that he's not Marco's friend, Bayan Hundred Eyes sure goes to great lengths to protect him.
Changed line(s) 218 (click to see context) from:
* BareFistedMonk: Bayan the Hundred Eyes is a Taoist monk and martial arts master who prefers to fight with his fists.
to:
* BareFistedMonk: Bayan the Hundred Eyes is a Taoist monk and martial arts master who prefers to fight with his fists.
* KnownOnlyByTheirNickname: Before entering the Khan's service, Hundred Eyes was [[spoiler: a Wudang monk known as Li Jinbao.]]
Changed line(s) 222 (click to see context) from:
* MeleeATrois: The episode "White Moon" features one of these between Bayan, [[spoiler: Jia Sidao]] and Fang Zhen of the Red Lotus Society.
to:
* MeleeATrois: The episode "White Moon" features one of these between Bayan, Hundred Eyes, [[spoiler: Jia Sidao]] and Fang Zhen of the Red Lotus Society.
Changed line(s) 315 (click to see context) from:
* HistoricalBadassUpgrade: Jia Sidao is also portrayed as an extremely proficient martial artist that can fight Bayan to a standstill.
to:
* HistoricalBadassUpgrade: Jia Sidao is also portrayed as an extremely proficient martial artist that can fight Bayan Hundred Eyes to a standstill.
Changed line(s) 398 (click to see context) from:
* LoveInterestTraitor: She views [[spoiler: Bayan]] as this, after learning that he now serves the Khan who slaughtered their people.
to:
* LoveInterestTraitor: She views [[spoiler: Bayan]] Hundred Eyes]] as this, after learning that he now serves the Khan who slaughtered their people.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Added DiffLines:
* NiceGuy: Treats Mei Ling with respect during the mission, and gives a positive report. This ends up saving the day when Mei Ling realizes Ahmad won't free her daughter.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 347 (click to see context) from:
* RagsToRiches: Jia Sidao and Mei Lin moved from living in the slums to having having powerful positions in the Song court.
to:
* RagsToRiches: Jia Sidao and Mei Lin moved from living in the slums to having having powerful positions in the Song court.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 320 (click to see context) from:
* RagsToRiches: Jia Sidao and Mei Lin moved from living in the slums to having having powerful positions in the Song court.
to:
* RagsToRiches: Jia Sidao and Mei Lin moved from living in the slums to having having powerful positions in the Song court.
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 83 (click to see context) from:
* BiTheWay: Possibly:
to:
* BiTheWay: Possibly:AmbiguouslyBi:
Is there an issue? Send a MessageReason:
None
Changed line(s) 410 (click to see context) from:
* AbusiveParents: Marco's father only met him for the first time in Marco's twenties, had no idea his mother had died, and intends abandoning him again within days of their meeting. When Marco sneaks aboard his father's ship, his father decides to sell him off to Kublai.
to:
* AbusiveParents: Marco's father only met him for the first time in Marco's twenties, Nicollo left before Marco was born and did not return until he was sixteen, had no idea his mother had died, and intends abandoning him again within days of their meeting. When Marco sneaks aboard his father's ship, his father decides to sell him off to Kublai.
