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* DwindlingParty: [[spoiler:gradually over the finale of the Part, three of them are killed- two by Vanilla Ice, one by DIO himself with Joseph being nearly a victim till Jotato revives. Then in Part 5, Polneraff physically dies, but [[ItMakesSenseInContext but due to Stand shenaggains, he ends up clinging in the body of a turtle]] and in Part 6, Jotato is killed by Pucci- with his reincarnation being a separate person, leaving Joseph the sole survivor]].



* GoodIsNotSoft: While undoubtedly heroic men who are fighting for a noble cause and do not go out of their way to cause trouble, they will have no qualms about killing their opponent to end a fight.

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* GoodIsNotSoft: While undoubtedly heroic men who are fighting for a noble cause and do not go out of their way to cause trouble, they will have no qualms about killing their opponent to end a fight.fight, [[PayEvilOntoEvil which is justified as a majority of them are craven cowards that will immediately backstab the heroes that show them mercy and the ones that have more determination will stop at nothing to kill them anyway due to their dedication to kill them in the name of their master, Dio, whom the group are planning to kill]].



* MultinationalTeam: A British-American, his quarter British-American/Italian/half-Japanese grandson, a Japanese high school student, an Egyptian fortune-teller, a French wanderer, and an American Boston Terrier.



* TrueCompanions: In a trip that only lasted a mere fifty days, this group of people became quite tight nit and developed a deep level of care and respect for one another, the memories they made are so strong that the trip is remembered fondly years after it concluded.

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* TrueCompanions: In a trip that only lasted a mere fifty days, this group of people became quite tight nit tight-knit and developed a deep level of care and respect for one another, the memories they made are so strong that the trip is remembered fondly years after it concluded.

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* ForgottenFallenFriend: Subverted. Even years after Part 3 ends, Jotaro [[spoiler: and Polnareff]] are shown to have their minds on that trip to Egypt and the friends that made up the group.

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* ForgottenFallenFriend: Subverted. Even years after Part 3 ends, Jotaro [[spoiler: and [[spoiler:and Polnareff]] are shown to have their minds on that trip to Egypt and the friends that made up the group.



* LastNameBasis: With the exception of Jotaro and Iggy (who is a dog), the rest of the group are all generally referred to by their last names. Jotaro is always referred to by his given name instead.



* WeakButSkilled: Four out of the six stand users fall into this territory: Hermit Purple, Hierophant Green, Silver Chariot, and The Fool aren't the most powerful Stands around in terms of raw power, but their users manage to get a lot out of them through precision, skill, and creativity. Magician's Red and Star Platinum, who both fall into StrongAndSkilled, are the exceptions.

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* WeakButSkilled: Four out of the six stand Stand users fall into this territory: Hermit Purple, Hierophant Green, Silver Chariot, and The Fool aren't the most powerful Stands around in terms of raw power, but their users manage to get a lot out of them through precision, skill, and creativity. Magician's Red and Star Platinum, who both fall into StrongAndSkilled, are the exceptions.
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Due to his constant failures to actually use Emperor to its fullest extent, he doesn't.


* SmartPeopleShoot: Hierophant Green is a long-range Stand, and in fact the first one such Stand in the franchise, lacking in power, but is extremely flexible, can possess people, and has ranged attacks. Kakyoin himself is extremely smart, [[ChildProdigy from a young age]], and managed to outsmart some of the most dangerous Stand Users seen, and is the only character who [[spoiler:found out The World's true power, and even got to share that info to Joseph with a LastBreathBullet before dying]].%%and Hol Horse doesn't count here?

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* SmartPeopleShoot: Hierophant Green is a long-range Stand, and in fact the first one such Stand in the franchise, lacking in power, but is extremely flexible, can possess people, and has ranged attacks. Kakyoin himself is extremely smart, [[ChildProdigy from a young age]], and managed to outsmart some of the most dangerous Stand Users seen, and is the only character who [[spoiler:found out The World's true power, and even got to share that info to Joseph with a LastBreathBullet before dying]].%%and Hol Horse doesn't count here?
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* EarlyInstallmentWeirdness: The only Stand using group that don't have a healer of any kind, so whenever they do get significantly injured they have to go to doctors to get treated, which leads to a few of their members being PutOnABus when they take significant injuries.
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''''' [[Characters/JoJosBizarreAdventureStardustCrusaders Stardust Crusaders]]:''''' '''The Joestar Group''' ([[Characters/JoJosBizarreAdventureJotaroKujo Jotaro Kujo]] | [[Characters/JoJosBizarreAdventureJeanPierrePolnareff Jean-Pierre Polnareff]]) | [[Characters/JoJosBizarreAdventureEgyptNineGloryGods Egypt 9 Glory Gods]]\\

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''''' [[Characters/JoJosBizarreAdventureStardustCrusaders Stardust Crusaders]]:''''' '''The Joestar Group''' ([[Characters/JoJosBizarreAdventureJotaroKujo Jotaro Kujo]] | [[Characters/JoJosBizarreAdventureJeanPierrePolnareff Jean-Pierre Polnareff]]) | [[Characters/JoJosBizarreAdventureEgyptNineGloryGods Egypt 9 Glory Gods]]\\Gods]] | [[Characters/JoJosBizarreAdventureDIOsHousehold DIO's Household]]\\
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'''''[[Characters/JoJosBizarreAdventureGoldenWind Golden Wind]]:''''' [[Characters/JoJosBizarreAdventureTeamBucciarati Team Bucciarati]] ([[Characters/JojosBizarreAdventureGiornoGiovanna Giorno Giovanna]]) | [[Characters/JojosBizarreAdventureDiavolo The Boss]]\\

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'''''[[Characters/JoJosBizarreAdventureGoldenWind Golden Wind]]:''''' [[Characters/JoJosBizarreAdventureTeamBucciarati Team Bucciarati]] ([[Characters/JojosBizarreAdventureGiornoGiovanna Giorno Giovanna]]) | [[Characters/JoJosBizarreAdventureLaSquadraDiEsecuzioni La Squadra di Esecuzioni]] | [[Characters/JojosBizarreAdventureDiavolo The Boss]]\\

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'''''[[Characters/JoJosBizarreAdventureBattleTendency Battle Tendency]]:''''' [[Characters/JoJosBizarreAdventureJosephJoestar Joseph Joestar]] | [[Characters/JoJosBizarreAdventureKars Kars]]\\

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'''''[[Characters/JoJosBizarreAdventureBattleTendency Battle Tendency]]:''''' [[Characters/JoJosBizarreAdventureJosephJoestar Joseph Joestar]] | [[Characters/JoJosBizarreAdventureKars Kars]]\\Joestar]]\\



'''''[[Characters/JoJosBizarreAdventureJojolion JoJolion]]:''''' [[Characters/JoJosBizarreAdventureJoJolionTheHigashikataFamily The Higashikata Family]] | [[Characters/JoJosBizarreAdventureToru The Mastermind]]\\

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'''''[[Characters/JoJosBizarreAdventureJojolion JoJolion]]:''''' [[Characters/JoJosBizarreAdventureJoJolionTheHigashikataFamily The Higashikata Family]] | [[Characters/JoJosBizarreAdventureToru The Mastermind]]\\Family]]\\

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* ShoutOut: He's named after Music/IggyPop, and his Stand is called [[Music/TheIdiot The Fool]].

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* ShoutOut: He's named after Music/IggyPop, and his Stand is called [[Music/TheIdiot The Fool]]. Lampshaded by Polnareff in the OVA's English dub:
--->'''Polnareff, being introduced to Iggy and his Stand:''' The Fool? More like the Idiot!
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* ForgottenFallenFriend: Subverted. Even years after Part 3 ends, Jotaro [[spoiler: and Polnareff]] are shown to have their minds on that trip to Egypt and the friends that made up the group.
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* TheFriendsWhoNeverHang: Avdol and Kakyoin, Joseph and Polnareff, and Iggy with Kakyoin and Avdol fall into this trope as they never have any meaningful experiences with one another, with only some light chatter here and there.
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* OffscreenMomentOfAwesome: At some point in the past, Avdol found, defeated, and barely tamed Iggy while he was in New York.

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* ScarsAreForever: Justified. [[spoiler:Hol Horse's bullet grazed Avdol's ''skull'' and was in such bad shape he was left to recover for more two weeks, during his battle with Cameo, he shows he still have the wound from the battle and mentions that his shoulder is still recovering from the wound he got from Hanged Man.]]



* AdaptationExpansion: ''[[Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventureCrazyDiamondsDemonicHeartbreak Crazy Diamond's Demonic Heartbreak]]'' goes deeper into his backstory. [[spoiler:Before the events of ''Stardust Crusaders'', he, his nuclear family, and his extended family had all gone on vacation to Egypt, where DIO was taking shelter at. His younger cousin, Ryoko, had gotten herself lost on the streets in the dead of night, provoking Kakyoin to go looking for her, until she found herself cornered by DIO. As it turned out, DIO had his sights set on Kakyoin, since him being from [[Manga/JojosBizarreAdventureDiamondIsUnbreakable Morioh]] put him in close proximity to Jotaro, who DIO was looking to take out as soon as possible, and he had [[GambitRoulette placed his bets on Ryoko getting lost and Kakyoin looking for her]]. Upon trying to defend Ryoko, Kakyoin suddenly had a flesh bud launched into his forehead, provoking his plot relevance in Part 3, and Ryoko personally [[ItsAllMyFault blames herself for Kakyoin's death because she had gotten lost]], while the rest of his family is trying their absolute hardest to move on after hearing he had been killed by DIO.]] However, this is at odds with Kakyoin's own flashback of that day, where he was explicitly seduced by DIO's words and the prospect of friendship with no mention of a cousin, bordering on {{retcon}} territory if it had been official.

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* AdaptationExpansion: ''[[Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventureCrazyDiamondsDemonicHeartbreak Crazy Diamond's Demonic Heartbreak]]'' goes deeper into his backstory. [[spoiler:Before the events of ''Stardust Crusaders'', he, his nuclear family, and his extended family had all gone on vacation to Egypt, where DIO was taking shelter at. His younger cousin, Ryoko, had gotten herself lost on the streets in the dead of night, provoking Kakyoin to go looking for her, until she found herself cornered by DIO. As it turned out, DIO had his sights set on Kakyoin, since him being from [[Manga/JojosBizarreAdventureDiamondIsUnbreakable Morioh]] put him in close proximity to Jotaro, who DIO was looking to take out as soon as possible, and he had [[GambitRoulette placed his bets on Ryoko getting lost and Kakyoin looking for her]]. Upon trying to defend Ryoko, Kakyoin suddenly had a flesh bud launched into his forehead, provoking his plot relevance in Part 3, and Ryoko personally [[ItsAllMyFault blames herself for Kakyoin's death because she had gotten lost]], while the rest of his family is trying their absolute hardest to move on after hearing he had been killed by DIO.]] However, this is at odds with Kakyoin's own flashback of that day, where he was explicitly seduced by DIO's words and the prospect of friendship with no mention of a cousin, cousin before or after, so it's a clear {{retcon}} bordering on {{retcon}} territory if it had been official.VoodooShark territory.



* GoodScarsEvilScars: Has scars across his eyes, product of being attacked by N'Doul. After his eyesight is mostly recovered, he also starts to wear sunglasses, to protect his eyes from light.

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* GoodScarsEvilScars: Has scars across his eyes, product of being attacked by N'Doul. After his eyesight is mostly recovered, he also starts to wear sunglasses, sunglasses to protect his eyes from light.
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* AdaptationalBadass: The OVA has The Fool be a lot larger than it is in canon, dwarfing Silver Chariot where it was approximately as long as Silver Chariot's sword in the manga.
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* MrExposition: Knows a lot about Stands and the places that the Joestar Group goes to, including the beggar culture of Egypt.

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* MrExposition: Knows a lot about Stands and some of their more infamous users, recognizing some of them and describing their abilities. He's also fairly versed regarding the places that the Joestar Group goes to, including the beggar culture of Egypt.
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forgot joseph and jotaro did not get along for a bit


* FireForgedFriends: Jotaro, Avdol, Kakyoin, Polnareff and Iggy all have to go through some sort of conflict together before they really start to bond with one another, but once they do, it's the beginning of a friendship they'll remember for the rest of their lives.

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* FireForgedFriends: Jotaro, Avdol, Kakyoin, Polnareff and Iggy all Every member of the group in some fashion or the other have to go through some sort of conflict together before they really start to bond with one another, but once they do, it's the beginning of a friendship they'll remember for the rest of their lives.
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was gonna put joseph here, but i don't think he ever gets in conflict in anyone else in the group


* FireForgedFriends: Avdol, Kakyoin, Polnareff and Iggy all have to go through some sort of conflict together before they really start to bond with one another, but once they do, it's the beginning of a friendship they'll remember for the rest of their lives.

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* FireForgedFriends: Jotaro, Avdol, Kakyoin, Polnareff and Iggy all have to go through some sort of conflict together before they really start to bond with one another, but once they do, it's the beginning of a friendship they'll remember for the rest of their lives.lives.
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* WeakButSkilled: Four out of the six stand users fall into this territory[[note]]The Fool and Hermit Purple frequently display use that isn't for direct combat, despite having some combat ability, and while Silver Chariot and Hierophant Green have good offensive abilities, neither are particularly strong or durable[[/note]] with the exception of Magician's Red and Star Platinum, who both fall into StrongAndSkilled.

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* WeakButSkilled: Four out of the six stand users fall into this territory[[note]]The Fool and territory: Hermit Purple frequently display use that isn't for direct combat, despite having some combat ability, and while Silver Chariot and Purple, Hierophant Green have good offensive abilities, neither are particularly strong or durable[[/note]] with Green, Silver Chariot, and The Fool aren't the exception most powerful Stands around in terms of raw power, but their users manage to get a lot out of them through precision, skill, and creativity. Magician's Red and Star Platinum, who both fall into StrongAndSkilled.StrongAndSkilled, are the exceptions.
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* WeakButSkilled: Four out of the six stand users fall into this territory[[note]]The Fool and Hermit Purple frequently display use that isn't for direct combat, despite having some combat ability, and while Silver Chariot and Hierophant Green have good offensive abilities, neither are particularly strong or durable[[/note]] with the exception of Magician's Red and Star Platinum, who both fall into StrongAndSkilled.

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Spell My Name With An S is now Inconsistent Spelling and is only about official translations.


* InconsistentSpelling: Official translations spell his name as either Muhammed or Muhammad Avdol, but according to the way his name is written in the original Japanese (モハメド・アヴドゥル ''Mohamedo Avuduru''), it's supposed to be Mohamed Avdul.



* SpellMyNameWithAnS: Official translations spell his name as either Muhammed or Muhammad Avdol, but according to the way his name is written in the original Japanese (モハメド・アヴドゥル ''Mohamedo Avuduru''), it's supposed to be Mohamed Avdul. Outside of that, any possible iteration of M(o/u)ha(m/mm)(a/e)d A(b/v)d(o/u)l is accepted, and similarly to how the Pillar Men of Part 2 are sometimes known as Cars, AC/DC and Wham, his last name is popularly spelled as Abdul.



* SpellMyNameWithAnS: His surname's romaji is meant to have extended vowels; "Kakyouin" is the proper way to render it.
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* GoodIsNotSoft: While undoubtedly heroic men who are fighting for a noble cause and do not go out of their way to cause trouble, they will have no qualms about killing their opponent to end a fight.

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* FireForgedFriends: Avdol, Kakyoin, Polnareff and Iggy all have to go through some sort of conflict together before they really start to bond with one another, but once they do, it's the beginning of a friendship they'll remember for the rest of their lives.
* MadeOfIron: This group really sets the trend of the main characters going through all sorts of injuries only to keep on fighting.
* PowersDoTheFighting: As the first protagonist group with Stands, they are all shown to be quite dependent on their stands to defeat the opponent, which is justified, seeing how only Stands can consistently combat other Stands.
* TrueCompanions: In a trip that only lasted a mere fifty days, this group of people became quite tight nit and developed a deep level of care and respect for one another, the memories they made are so strong that the trip is remembered fondly years after it concluded.
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* AdaptationExpansion: ''[[Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventureCrazyDiamondsDemonicHeartbreak Crazy Diamond's Demonic Heartbreak]]'' goes deeper into his backstory. [[spoiler:Before the events of ''Stardust Crusaders'', he, his nuclear family, and his extended family had all gone on vacation to Egypt, where DIO was taking shelter at. His younger cousin, Ryoko, had gotten herself lost on the streets in the dead of night, provoking Kakyoin to go looking for her, until she found herself cornered by DIO. As it turned out, DIO had his sights set on Kakyoin, since him being from [[Manga/JojosBizarreAdventureDiamondIsUnbreakable Morioh]] put him in close proximity to Jotaro, who DIO was looking to take out as soon as possible, and he had [[GambitRoulette placed his bets on Ryoko getting lost and Kakyoin looking for her]]. Upon trying to defend Ryoko, Kakyoin suddenly had a flesh bud launched into his forehead, provoking his plot relevance in Part 3, and Ryoko personally [[ItsAllMyFault blames herself for Kakyoin's death because she had gotten lost]], while the rest of his family is trying their absolute hardest to move on after hearing he had been killed by DIO.]]

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* AdaptationExpansion: ''[[Manga/JoJosBizarreAdventureCrazyDiamondsDemonicHeartbreak Crazy Diamond's Demonic Heartbreak]]'' goes deeper into his backstory. [[spoiler:Before the events of ''Stardust Crusaders'', he, his nuclear family, and his extended family had all gone on vacation to Egypt, where DIO was taking shelter at. His younger cousin, Ryoko, had gotten herself lost on the streets in the dead of night, provoking Kakyoin to go looking for her, until she found herself cornered by DIO. As it turned out, DIO had his sights set on Kakyoin, since him being from [[Manga/JojosBizarreAdventureDiamondIsUnbreakable Morioh]] put him in close proximity to Jotaro, who DIO was looking to take out as soon as possible, and he had [[GambitRoulette placed his bets on Ryoko getting lost and Kakyoin looking for her]]. Upon trying to defend Ryoko, Kakyoin suddenly had a flesh bud launched into his forehead, provoking his plot relevance in Part 3, and Ryoko personally [[ItsAllMyFault blames herself for Kakyoin's death because she had gotten lost]], while the rest of his family is trying their absolute hardest to move on after hearing he had been killed by DIO.]]]] However, this is at odds with Kakyoin's own flashback of that day, where he was explicitly seduced by DIO's words and the prospect of friendship with no mention of a cousin, bordering on {{retcon}} territory if it had been official.
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* DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything: Kakyoin's flashback with DIO features Kakyoin being approached as if DIO was trying to calm a child, has him sensually whisper into his ear that they should become "friends" with Kakyoin gaining an ecstatic and excited expression on his face, and then shows a lot of roses losing their petals or being "deflowered". Top this with Kakyoin saying he'll never forgive DIO for what he did immediately after and, well, it brings more than a few comparisons of an uncomfortable subject.

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