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* EvilCounterpart: The Midnight Crew was always one for [[ProblemSleuth Team Sleuth]] in the bonus material - with Spades Slick being the obvious counterpart to Problem Sleuth. Taken a step further here, with [[spoiler:the fourth prototyping essentially the EvilCounterpart to ''[[OhCrap Sepulchritude]]''.]]
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* EvilCounterpart: The Midnight Crew was always one for [[ProblemSleuth Team Sleuth]] in the bonus material - with Spades Slick being the obvious counterpart to Problem Sleuth. Taken a step further here, with [[spoiler:the fourth prototyping essentially the EvilCounterpart to ''[[OhCrap Sepulchritude]]''.''[[SuperMode Sepulch]][[LimitBreak ritude]]''.]]
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this seems kind of conjectural and isn\'t clear in the story.
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* VillainousBreakdown: Jack starts out pretty smart, with a sense of honour - albeit twisted: sparing Dad and WV, honoring his deal with PM, seeking to duel Bro in a fair fight. Then Bro decides to [[spoiler:fight with Cal rather than his sword, humiliating Jack and thoroughly pissing him off. Then Jack gets Bec's powers through prototyping and goes on to rage around the incipisphere, so far killing Bro, Davesprite, John (who fortunately CameBackStrong) and a doomed version of Dave]].
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* [[spoiler:SixthRanger: To the Exiles.]]
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The King of Prospit, who wages war against Derse at the heart of Skaia. [[spoiler: He later hides inside a kernel in the Frog Temple to survive and become the Writ Keeper on the future Earth.]]
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The King of Prospit, who wages war against Derse at the heart of Skaia. [[spoiler: He later hides inside a kernel the time capsule in the Frog Temple to survive and become the Writ Keeper on the future Earth.]]
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* WhatHappenedToTheMouse: Disappeared with absolutely no word on his fate. [[spoiler: Subverted in that he ultimately becomes the fifth exile]].
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* WhatHappenedToTheMouse: Disappeared after abdicating with absolutely no word on his fate. [[spoiler: Subverted in that he ultimately becomes the fifth exile]].
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!! White King
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!! White KingKing/[[spoiler:Writ Keeper]]
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The King of Prospit, who wages war against Derse at the heart of Skaia.
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The King of Prospit, who wages war against Derse at the heart of Skaia.
Skaia. [[spoiler: He later hides inside a kernel in the Frog Temple to survive and become the Writ Keeper on the future Earth.]]
* DidntSeeThatComing: [[spoiler: Virtually nobody in the fandom predicted that he would become the fifth exile]].
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* MixAndMatchCritters
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* MixAndMatchCrittersMixAndMatchCritters: Lost after his scepter is captured.
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* WhatHappenedToTheMouse: Has disappeared with no word on his fate.
** [[ShrugOfGod Probably died though.]]
** [[ShrugOfGod Probably died though.]]
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* WhatHappenedToTheMouse: Has disappeared Disappeared with absolutely no word on his fate.
** [[ShrugOfGod Probably died though.]]
fate. [[spoiler: Subverted in that he ultimately becomes the fifth exile]].
** [[ShrugOfGod Probably died though.]]
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* FlashStep: Skilled enough with it to keep up with Bro and Davesprite at the same time.
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FFFFFFFFFFFF okay I\'ll preview next time Murphy stop kicking my ass
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* DracoInLeatherPants: It happens. [[{{Understatment}} A lot.]]
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* DracoInLeatherPants: It happens. [[{{Understatment}} [[{{Understatement}} A lot.]]
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* DracoInLeatherPants: It happens. [[Understatment A lot.]]
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* DracoInLeatherPants: It happens. [[Understatment [[{{Understatment}} A lot.]]
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** [[ShrugOfGod Probably died though.]]
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Jackku-san you are my kawaii bishie uguu. Believe me I roleplay WV; I\'ve seen far too many of these
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* VillainousBreakdown: Jack starts out pretty smart, with a sense of honour - albeit twisted: sparing Dad and WV, honoring his deal with PM, seeking to duel Bro in a fair fight. Then Bro decides to [[spoiler:fight with Cal rather than his sword, humiliating Jack and thoroughly pissing him off. Then Jack gets Bec's powers through prototyping and goes on to rage around the incipisphere, so far killing Bro, Davesprite, John (who fortunately CameBackStrong) and a doomed Dave]].
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* VillainousBreakdown: Jack starts out pretty smart, with a sense of honour - albeit twisted: sparing Dad and WV, honoring his deal with PM, seeking to duel Bro in a fair fight. Then Bro decides to [[spoiler:fight with Cal rather than his sword, humiliating Jack and thoroughly pissing him off. Then Jack gets Bec's powers through prototyping and goes on to rage around the incipisphere, so far killing Bro, Davesprite, John (who fortunately CameBackStrong) and a doomed version of Dave]].
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* VillainousBreakdown: Jack starts out pretty smart, with a sense of honour - albeit twisted: sparing Dad and WV, honoring his deal with PM, seeking to duel Bro in a fair fight. Then Bro decides to [[spoiler:fight with Cal rather than his sword, humiliating Jack and thoroughly pissing him off. Then Jack gets Bec's powers through prototyping and goes on to rage around the incipisphere, so far killing Bro, Davesprite, John (who fortunately CameBackStrong) and a doomed Dave]].
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* IHaveManyNames: Jack Noir, Sovereign Slayer, [[spoier: Bec Noir, and 'the demon'.]]
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* IHaveManyNames: Jack Noir, Sovereign Slayer, [[spoier: [[spoiler: Bec Noir, and 'the demon'.]]
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* IHaveManyNames: Jack Noir, Sovereign Slayer, [[spoier: Bec Noir, and 'the demon'.]]
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* HeroKiller: He's already wiped out entire armies and planets, but [[spoiler:killing Bro and Davesprite, two of the most badass characters in the story, qualifies him beyond a doubt. And then he goes and stabs John in the heart. ]]
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* HeroKiller: He's already wiped out entire armies and planets, but [[spoiler:killing Bro and Davesprite, two of the most badass characters in the story, qualifies him beyond a doubt. And He then he goes and stabs off to stab John in through the heart. heart and to kill another of Dave's timeline offshoots.]]
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!!Jack Noir/Sovereign Slayer
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It occurs to me that I should have just zapped the subjective tropes right out. If someone wants to put it on the YMMV page, go nuts.
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Archagent of the Dark Kingdom, he watches events from his CUBICLE OF VIGILANCE. Is humiliated by the Queen by a succession of increasingly humiliating dress code changes.
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Archagent of the Dark Kingdom, he watches events from his CUBICLE OF VIGILANCE. Is humiliated by the Queen by a succession of increasingly humiliating dress code changes.
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* {{Complete Monster}}: Probably intended as [[{{Comedic Sociopath}} a parody.]]
** [[spoiler: Played straight now that he's gone and killed every single pawn WV? had gathered up and murdered countless innocent civilians on Prospit]].
** [[spoiler: Played straight now that he's gone and killed every single pawn WV? had gathered up and murdered countless innocent civilians on Prospit]].
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* EvilCounterpart: The Midnight Crew was always one for [[ProblemSleuth Team Sleuth]] in the bonus material - with Spades Slick being the obvious counterpart to Problem Sleuth. Taken a step further here, with [[spoiler:the fourth prototyping essentially the EvilConterpart to ''[[OhCrap Sepulchritude]]''.]]
* FoeYay: It's been confirmed that Jack Noir and the Black Queen shared a romantic relationship, only based on mutual hatred instead of love. Humans have no concept of it, but any troll can peg it as Kismesissitude.
* FoeYay: It's been confirmed that Jack Noir and the Black Queen shared a romantic relationship, only based on mutual hatred instead of love. Humans have no concept of it, but any troll can peg it as Kismesissitude.
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* EvilCounterpart: The Midnight Crew was always one for [[ProblemSleuth Team Sleuth]] in the bonus material - with Spades Slick being the obvious counterpart to Problem Sleuth. Taken a step further here, with [[spoiler:the fourth prototyping essentially the EvilConterpart EvilCounterpart to ''[[OhCrap Sepulchritude]]''.]]
* FoeYay: It's been confirmed that Jack Noir and the Black Queen shared a romantic relationship, only based on mutual hatred instead of love. Humans have no concept of it, but any troll can peg it as Kismesissitude.]]
* FoeYay: It's been confirmed that Jack Noir and the Black Queen shared a romantic relationship, only based on mutual hatred instead of love. Humans have no concept of it, but any troll can peg it as Kismesissitude.
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*** To say absolutely nothing of the fact that within Sburb's mythos is the deity of the Frog Temples, Billious Slick.
* MoralEventHorizon: Killing his Queen, King, pretty much all of Prospit and Dream Jade, and destroying a chunk of Skaia in addition to triggering the Reckoning puts him way past.
** [[spoiler: And then, destroying the Trolls' Prospit and Derse.]]
* MoralEventHorizon: Killing his Queen, King, pretty much all of Prospit and Dream Jade, and destroying a chunk of Skaia in addition to triggering the Reckoning puts him way past.
** [[spoiler: And then, destroying the Trolls' Prospit and Derse.]]
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*** To say absolutely nothing of the fact that within Sburb's mythos is the deity of the Frog Temples, Billious Slick. \n* MoralEventHorizon: Killing his Queen, King, pretty much all of Prospit and Dream Jade, and destroying a chunk of Skaia in addition to triggering the Reckoning puts him way past.\n** [[spoiler: And then, destroying the Trolls' Prospit and Derse.]]
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* OmnicidalManiac : Well... Yeah.
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* OmnicidalManiac : Well... Yeah.
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* TheChessmaster: After stealing Rose's code, he creates Becquerel and sends him to Earth as its first Guardian. [[spoiler:And by the time Jade plays the game, Bec prototypes himself, giving his superior, Jack, First Guardian powers.]]
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* TheChessmaster: After stealing Rose's code, he creates Becquerel and sends him to Earth as its first Guardian. [[spoiler:And by the time Jade plays the game, Bec prototypes himself, giving his superior, Jack, First Guardian powers.]] ]]
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* PhysicalGod: [[spoiler:As of his fourth prototyping.]]
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I don\'t think either of you quite understand what MEH means. Killing a couple of dudes explicitly established as your enemies in no way compares to the mass-murder of several entire planets.
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* HeroKiller: He's already wiped out entire armies and planets, but [[spoiler:killing Bro and Davesprite, two of the most badass characters in the story, qualifies him beyond a doubt. And then he goes and stabs John in the heart. D: ]]
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* HeroKiller: He's already wiped out entire armies and planets, but [[spoiler:killing Bro and Davesprite, two of the most badass characters in the story, qualifies him beyond a doubt. And then he goes and stabs John in the heart. D: ]]
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** And then [[spoiler:killing Bro and Davesprite.]]
** And then [[spoiler:killing John.]]
** And then [[spoiler:killing John.]]
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*** To say absolutely nothing of the fact that within Sburb's mythos is the deity of the Frog Temples, Billious Slick.
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** And then [[spoiler:killing Bro and Davesprite.]]
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* DangerouslyGenreSavvy: As [[{{WordOfGod}} Andrew Hussie]] [[http://www.formspring.me/andrewhussie/q/550300327 says.]]
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* DangerouslyGenreSavvy: As [[{{WordOfGod}} Andrew Hussie]] [[http://www.formspring.me/andrewhussie/q/550300327 says.]]]] Although there are arguments for him being the inverse, simply not caring about genre or implications, and just wanting to destroy everything.
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* HeroKiller: He's already wiped out entire armies and planets, but [[spoiler:killing Bro and Davesprite, two of the most badass characters in the story, qualifies him beyond a doubt.]]
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* HeroKiller: He's already wiped out entire armies and planets, but [[spoiler:killing Bro and Davesprite, two of the most badass characters in the story, qualifies him beyond a doubt. And then he goes and stabs John in the heart. D: ]]
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That didn\'t work out too poorly for him.
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** And now he's shown this again, in a way. [[spoiler:[[http://http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=004774 Giving Bro back his]] [[http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=004745 not a piece-of-shit sword]] [[http://www.mspaintadventures.com/?s=6&p=004776 could be a bad idea for Jack.]]]]
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* EvilCounterpart: The Midnight Crew was always one for [[ProblemSleuth Team Sleuth]] in the bonus material - with Spades Slick being the obvious counterpart to Problem Sleuth. Taken a step further here, with [[spoiler:the fourtt prototyping essentially the EvilConterpart to ''[[OhCrap Sepulchritude]]''.]]
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* EvilCounterpart: The Midnight Crew was always one for [[ProblemSleuth Team Sleuth]] in the bonus material - with Spades Slick being the obvious counterpart to Problem Sleuth. Taken a step further here, with [[spoiler:the fourtt fourth prototyping essentially the EvilConterpart to ''[[OhCrap Sepulchritude]]''.]]
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* EvilCounterpart: The Midnight Crew was always one for [[ProblemSleuth Team Sleuth]] in the bonus material - with Spades Slick being the obvious counterpart to Problem Sleuth. Taken a step further here, with [[spoiler: all four prototypings, he's essentially the EvilConterpart to ''Sepulchritude''.]]
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* EvilCounterpart: The Midnight Crew was always one for [[ProblemSleuth Team Sleuth]] in the bonus material - with Spades Slick being the obvious counterpart to Problem Sleuth. Taken a step further here, with [[spoiler: all four prototypings, he's [[spoiler:the fourtt prototyping essentially the EvilConterpart to ''Sepulchritude''.''[[OhCrap Sepulchritude]]''.]]
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\"Bec Noir\" is just a shorthand thing to distinguish him from pre-Bec prototyping, and the troll-session Jack; His name didn\'t suddenly change with the prototyping. Refusing to wear a hat does not count as \"Standards\". \"Red Right Hand\" doesn\'t merely refer to red hands, and the call-back is FROM Slick\'s injury TO the missing arm caused by the prototyping.
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* EvenEvilHasStandards: "It's bad enough that your EXALTED RULER ordered everyone to drape themselves in these hideous rags the moment the troublesome human with the pipe and his child showed up. But you draw the line at the hat."
** He also returns the package, as promised, after PM does what he asks, even though he could've just killed her on the spot.
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* EvenEvilHasStandards: "It's bad enough that your EXALTED RULER ordered everyone to drape themselves in these hideous rags the moment the troublesome human with the pipe and his child showed up. But you draw the line at the hat."
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* IronicEcho: Troll-session Noir cuts his [[RedRightHand right hand to show his red blood]] to Karkat, proving that he's NotSoDifferent. Kids-session Noir [[spoiler: has a [[RedRightHand red blood-covered right hand]] when he enters the Troll universe and starts killing everyone, including Dream!Karkat.]]
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* IronicEcho: Troll-session Noir cuts his [[RedRightHand right hand to show his red blood]] blood to Karkat, proving that he's NotSoDifferent. Kids-session Noir [[spoiler: has a [[RedRightHand red blood-covered right hand]] hand when he enters the Troll universe and starts killing everyone, including Dream!Karkat.]]
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* RedRightHand: Seen with one when [[spoiler: Bec Noir enters SGRUB. Interesting in that it's [[CallBack a similar injury]] to one received by his SGRUB counterpart Spades Slick.]]
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** Done ''deliberately''. [Mostly as a preview of his rise to power. Even Spades Slick in the Intermission was part of it.
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** Done ''deliberately''. [Mostly Mostly as a preview of his rise to power. Even Spades Slick in the Intermission was part of it.
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