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* TheUnreveal: It's not known why she hated her daughter that much, but there are three possibilities:
** Alma could have been aware of the Reiss family's inaction towards the Titans and developed disgust towards her daughter, a Reiss;
** Because she could have wanted to bite more that she could chew in relation to her "relationship" with Rod Reiss, who wanted nothing to do with her. He even had her killed, and would have killed Historia too had she not agreed to drop her name and whatever claim she felt entitled to just because she's his daughter.
*** It's implied that she is killed by the Central MP 1st Brigade so that she and Historia don't contest Rod's power as king. The plan was to kill Historia too, had Rod not intervened.
** A final possibility is that Alma knew that having and keeping Historia, a bastard royal child, would eventually paint a target on her head. [[VoodooShark Which raises further questions about why she chose to keep the baby.]] Maybe she really couldn't bring herself to kill or abandon her own daughter or maybe Rod left explicit instructions that Historia is supposed to be unharmed and/or used as a backup in case something ever happened.
** Alma could have been aware of the Reiss family's inaction towards the Titans and developed disgust towards her daughter, a Reiss;
** Because she could have wanted to bite more that she could chew in relation to her "relationship" with Rod Reiss, who wanted nothing to do with her. He even had her killed, and would have killed Historia too had she not agreed to drop her name and whatever claim she felt entitled to just because she's his daughter.
*** It's implied that she is killed by the Central MP 1st Brigade so that she and Historia don't contest Rod's power as king. The plan was to kill Historia too, had Rod not intervened.
** A final possibility is that Alma knew that having and keeping Historia, a bastard royal child, would eventually paint a target on her head. [[VoodooShark Which raises further questions about why she chose to keep the baby.]] Maybe she really couldn't bring herself to kill or abandon her own daughter or maybe Rod left explicit instructions that Historia is supposed to be unharmed and/or used as a backup in case something ever happened.
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* TooDumbTooLive: If you think about it, her entering an affair with Rod counts as this given that she should have known there would have been some kind of repercussions to having an affair with the married noble while she was just his maid. [[HoistByTheirOwnPetard She also presumably continued seeing Rod even after she was banished, this resulted in Rod knowing to get her first before retrieving Historia, which meant that she was in the right place and time for Kenny to kill her]].
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* TooDumbTooLive: TooDumbToLive: If you think about it, her entering an affair with Rod counts as this given that she should have known there would have been some kind of repercussions to having an affair with the married noble while she was just his maid. [[HoistByTheirOwnPetard She also presumably continued seeing Rod even after she was banished, this resulted in Rod knowing to get her first before retrieving Historia, which meant that she was in the right place and time for Kenny to kill her]].her]].
* TheUnreveal: We never really learn why Alma hated Historia so much or why she stuck around a family she didn't care about. The implication seems to be because that the latter's existence put the former's life in danger but that doesn't explain why she didn't just leave to go live in the capital near her lover.
* TheUnreveal: We never really learn why Alma hated Historia so much or why she stuck around a family she didn't care about. The implication seems to be because that the latter's existence put the former's life in danger but that doesn't explain why she didn't just leave to go live in the capital near her lover.
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* SpellMyNameWithAnS: Called "Lord Balto" in the Funimation subs, and "Lord Wald" in the dub itself. In a case of NoPronunciationGuide, his name is spelled バルト or ''Baruto'' in the original Japanese, so it can go either way.
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* SpellMyNameWithAnS: Called "Lord Balto" in the Funimation subs, and "Lord Wald" in the dub itself. In a case of NoPronunciationGuide, his His name is spelled バルト or ''Baruto'' in the original Japanese, so it can go either way.
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* DramaticallyMissingThePoint: Alma hated Historia and wished she had the courage to kill her because she blamed her for her current situation and/or thought it would save her life. What she either failed to realize or refused to acknowledge is that, why the council did want her dead for birthing Historia, it’s because they wished to execute all “stains” on the royal family. Hence why the council wanted BOTH her and Historia dead. Historia for being an illegitimate child and Alma for being the lowly maid that had an affair with Rod Reiss. So even if Historia hadn’t been born or if she HAD killed her, it’s likely the council would have wanted her dead anyways for the affair.
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** The scene where Eren dreams of this girl was finally included in the first episode of The Final Chapters as a flashback.
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* DirtyCoward: She practically begged Kenny Ackerman to kill Historia but let her live. She would rather deny being Historia's mother and try to save her own skin rather than try to save both of them. She even admits to desiring to kill Historia to save her own life only refraining because, ironically, she lacks the courage to do so.
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* DidntThinkThisThrough: She didnt seem to think that having an affair with Rod would blow up in her face despite being a maid while he was the true king of the walls. Kenny Ackerman even suggests that she hoped to become Rods new wife by having Historia, convincing Rod to leave his legitimate family for her since she was "the only one who understands (him)". What she didnt consider is that, as close as Rod made out their affair to be, he still couldnt let her or Historia shame his image. Then theres also the fact that she kept seeing Rod even after her banishment.
* DirtyCoward: She practically begged Kenny Ackerman to kill Historia but let her live. She would rather deny being Historia's mother and try to save her own skin (possibly thinking that if the Military police ever did find her then she could just deny having been Historia's mother or that they would leave her be for cleaning up her own "mess"). rather than try to save both of them. She even admits to desiring to kill Historia to save her own life only refraining because, ironically, she lacks the courage to do so.
* DirtyCoward: She practically begged Kenny Ackerman to kill Historia but let her live. She would rather deny being Historia's mother and try to save her own skin (possibly thinking that if the Military police ever did find her then she could just deny having been Historia's mother or that they would leave her be for cleaning up her own "mess"). rather than try to save both of them. She even admits to desiring to kill Historia to save her own life only refraining because, ironically, she lacks the courage to do so.
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** It should be noted that she never expresses any true anger towards Historia as side from coldly dismissing her. When she isn’t reading her book she is either in crying anguish over her situation or visibly terrified. When her last words to her daughter, spiteful and cruel as they are, are more out of s selfish desire to protect her own life and her look never changes from terrified to hateful. One could wonder if she would have allowed herself to feel something for Historia if her life wasn’t in danger.
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* DirtyCoward: She practically begged Kenny Ackerman to kill Historia but let her live. She would rather have the council execute her own daughter and leave her alone than die along with her. She even admits to desiring to kill Historia to save her own life only refraining because, ironically, she lacks the courage to do so.
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* DirtyCoward: She practically begged Kenny Ackerman to kill Historia but let her live. She would rather have the council execute deny being Historia's mother and try to save her own daughter and leave her alone skin rather than die along with her.try to save both of them. She even admits to desiring to kill Historia to save her own life only refraining because, ironically, she lacks the courage to do so.
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* LethallyStupid: If you think about it, her entering an affair with Rod counts as this given that she knew what would happen if they were caught. [[HoistByTheirOwnPetard She also presumably continued seeing Rod even after she was banished, this red to Rod knowing to get her first before seeing Historia, which meant that she was in the right place and time for Kenny to kill her]].
* MisplacedBlame: She views Historia as the reason she had to die instead of Rod, for sending her away instead of actually trying to protect them and later doing nothing to help when she’s about to be executed.
* MisplacedBlame: She views Historia as the reason she had to die instead of Rod, for sending her away instead of actually trying to protect them and later doing nothing to help when she’s about to be executed.
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* NeverMyFault: Does she blame herself for being branded as a whore and being targeted by the Military police for having an affair with Rod Reiss (who was married and a royal). No, she blames her daughter Historia, thinking that if she just hadn’t been born everything for her would be fine.
** Also, given that she left her family farm where arid sent her back, the fact that he knew to get her THEN go to the farm to get Historia’s when evacuating means that they kept in contact (and likely continued their affair) even AFTER everything that happened to her. Had she not done that she likely could have avoided running into Kenny Ackerman. But again, she blames Historia’s birth for it.
** Also, given that she left her family farm where arid sent her back, the fact that he knew to get her THEN go to the farm to get Historia’s when evacuating means that they kept in contact (and likely continued their affair) even AFTER everything that happened to her. Had she not done that she likely could have avoided running into Kenny Ackerman. But again, she blames Historia’s birth for it.
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* NeverMyFault: Does she blame herself for being branded as a whore and being targeted by the Military police for having an affair with Rod Reiss (who was married and a royal). No, she royal) in the first place? No. She blames her daughter Historia, thinking that if she just hadn’t been born everything for her would be fine.
** Also, given that she left her family farm where arid sent her back, the fact that he knew to get her THEN go to the farm to get Historia’s when evacuating means that they kept in contact (and likely continued their affair) even AFTER everything that happened to her. Had she not done that she likely could have avoided running into Kenny Ackerman. But again, she blames Historia’sbirth existence for it.
** Also, given that she left her family farm where arid sent her back, the fact that he knew to get her THEN go to the farm to get Historia’s when evacuating means that they kept in contact (and likely continued their affair) even AFTER everything that happened to her. Had she not done that she likely could have avoided running into Kenny Ackerman. But again, she blames Historia’s
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* TooDumbTooLive: If you think about it, her entering an affair with Rod counts as this given that she should have known there would have been some kind of repercussions to having an affair with the married noble while she was just his maid. [[HoistByTheirOwnPetard She also presumably continued seeing Rod even after she was banished, this resulted in Rod knowing to get her first before retrieving Historia, which meant that she was in the right place and time for Kenny to kill her]].
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* NeverMyFault: Does she blame herself for being branded as a whore and being targeted by the Military police for having an affair with Rod Reiss (who was married). No, she blames her daughter Historia’s, thinking that if she just hadn’t been born everything for her would be fine.
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* NeverMyFault: Does she blame herself for being branded as a whore and being targeted by the Military police for having an affair with Rod Reiss (who was married). married and a royal). No, she blames her daughter Historia’s, Historia, thinking that if she just hadn’t been born everything for her would be fine.
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* SecretKeeper: She HOPED that no one, especially the council or the military police, would find out who Historia's birth father was or else both her and Historia (but more importantly, HER) would be executed. It is unknown if she even told her own parents.
* SlutShaming: On the recieving end of this. It is possible that, like how Historia was considered a disgrace to oth sides of her family and a mistake by everyone else in general for being a "bastard", Alma also faced discrimination from her family and neighbors and was labeled a "whore" due to the fact that she slept with a married man (Rod) and birthed his illegitimate child (with Historia's existence being proof of that). Both may possibly have influenced her to become an actual escort rather than assist her parents with their farm work (aside from wanting to avoid her daughter). This may have also influenced her resentful treatment of her daughter aside from her fear of being executed by the Military Police.
* SlutShaming: On the recieving end of this. It is possible that, like how Historia was considered a disgrace to oth sides of her family and a mistake by everyone else in general for being a "bastard", Alma also faced discrimination from her family and neighbors and was labeled a "whore" due to the fact that she slept with a married man (Rod) and birthed his illegitimate child (with Historia's existence being proof of that). Both may possibly have influenced her to become an actual escort rather than assist her parents with their farm work (aside from wanting to avoid her daughter). This may have also influenced her resentful treatment of her daughter aside from her fear of being executed by the Military Police.
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* InTheBlood: Her parents cared just as much for Historia as she did. None. The only reason THEY ever talked to Historia at all was just to teach her how to work for them.
** It’s likely that her relationship with her parents was strained due to being branded a shore for birthing an illegitimate child.
** It’s also likely that it was to avoid having to interact with Historia.
** Or she just felt that farm work was beneath her since (she thought) she could have become Ross wife someday.
** It’s also likely that it was to avoid having to interact with Historia.
** Or she just felt that farm work was beneath her since (she thought) she could have become Ross wife someday.
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* NeverMyFault: She likely knew that having an affair with Rod (the fact that he was married aside) would get her executed by the first brigade but did so anyways. But she blames Historia since her birth exposed it, never considering they would have been found out later anyways.
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* TheReveal: Probably the biggest of them all in the entire series: [[spoiler: She is an AlternateTimeline version of Mikasa who confessed her love to Eren, and ultimately lived the rest of his 13-year-long life with her.]]
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* ArcNumber: Her first and only appearance was on the 13th page of Chapter 1 and it's also the only time in the manga thus far where [[https://i.pinimg.com/736x/dd/fd/e4/ddfde4b7d7f0c178549a2d474ddd4592.jpg the page number was actually on the page]]. Given that the number 13 also corresponds to [[spoiler:the number of years a Titan Shifter has left to live after receiving the Power of the Titans]], it's either a wild coincidence, or there's something far bigger at play.
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* ArcNumber: Her first and only appearance was on the 13th page of Chapter 1 and it's also the only time in the manga thus far where [[https://i.pinimg.com/736x/dd/fd/e4/ddfde4b7d7f0c178549a2d474ddd4592.jpg the page number was actually on the page]]. Given It's later revealed that the number 13 also corresponds to is [[spoiler:the number of years a Titan Shifter has left to live after receiving the Power of the Titans]], it's either a wild coincidence, or there's something far bigger at play.Titans, and that the Mysterious Girl is Mikasa staying by Eren's side while he dies after his time limit is up in an AlternateTimeline where Mikasa confessed her feelings to Eren, causing him to abandon his mission and elope with her.]]
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** Also, did she become an escort or was she only going into the city to see Reiss. The fact that Reiss knew to get her first then Historia means that they must have had some form of interaction after her banishment.
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** Also, did she become an escort or was she only going into the city to see Reiss. The fact that Reiss knew to get her first then Historia when evacuating the walls means that they must have had some form of interaction after her banishment.
** It should be noted that she never expresses any true anger towards Historia as side from coldly dismissing her. When she isn’t reading her book she is either in crying anguish over her situation or visibly terrified. When her last words to her daughter, spiteful and cruel as they are, are more out of s selfish desire to protect her own life and her look never changes from terrified to hateful. One could wonder if she would have allowed herself to feel something for Historia if her life wasn’t in danger.
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* DyingDeclarationOfHate: She makes perfectly clear her contempt for her daughter as she dies.
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* DyingDeclarationOfHate: She makes it perfectly clear that she blames her contempt daughters very existence for her daughter situation as she dies.
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* Jerkass: What little we see of her, she’s a neglectful mother who silently wanted her own daughter (who she never even interacted with) at best, and a coward ready to sacrifice her young daughter to save herself at worst. Rod considered her the only one that could understand him which puts her overall personality into question. See AmbiguousSituation above. Theres also the fact that she entered an affair with Rod knowing that he was a married man.
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* Jerkass: {{Jerkass}}: What little we see of her, she’s a neglectful mother who silently wanted her own daughter (who she never even interacted with) at best, and a coward ready to sacrifice her young daughter to save herself at worst. Rod considered her the only one that could understand him which puts her overall personality into question. See AmbiguousSituation above. Theres also the fact that she entered an affair with Rod knowing that he was a married man.
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* MisplacedBlame: She views Historia as the reason she had to die instead of Rod, for sending her away instead of actually trying to protect them and later doing nothing to help when she’s about to be executed.
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* NeverMyFault: She likely knew that having an affair with Rod (the fact that he was married aside) would get her executed by the first brigade but did so anyways. But she blames Historia since her birth exposed it, never considering they would have been found out later anyways.
** Also, given that she left her family farm where arid sent her back, the fact that he knew to get her THEN go to the farm to get Historia’s when evacuating means that they kept in contact (and likely continued their affair) even AFTER everything that happened to her. Had she not done that she likely could have avoided running into Kenny Ackerman. But again, she blames Historia’s birth for it.
** Also, given that she left her family farm where arid sent her back, the fact that he knew to get her THEN go to the farm to get Historia’s when evacuating means that they kept in contact (and likely continued their affair) even AFTER everything that happened to her. Had she not done that she likely could have avoided running into Kenny Ackerman. But again, she blames Historia’s birth for it.
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** “If only I had the courage to kill the girl.”
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* ProneToTears: She CRIES over her regret of having Historia and NOT finding the will power to kill her.
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* ProneToTears: She CRIES over her regret of having Historia and and/or NOT finding the will power to kill her.her.
* ResentfulGuardian: To Historia, and how. It also applies to her own parents towards Historia since they only talked to their granddaughter to teach her how to work.
* ResentfulGuardian: To Historia, and how. It also applies to her own parents towards Historia since they only talked to their granddaughter to teach her how to work.
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* BeautyIsBad: She is described as being very beautiful, beautiful enough to attract the true king of the walls. She was also a horrifically neglectful mother who greatly regrets not being able to muster the courage to KILL her own daughter.
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* ItsAllAboutMe: She was only ever concerned about her own survival, not her daughters. She practically begged Captain Ackerman to [[DirtyCoward only kill Historia, her daughter and a child, and let her live while making no attempt to try and convince him to spare them both]]. She even regrets NOT having the courage to kill Historia herself as soon as she was born to save her own life.
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* ItsAllAboutMe: She was only ever concerned about her own survival, not her daughters. [[LackOfEmpathy She knows that it isnt just her who is in danger of being killed, but Historia is as well, but all Alma cares about is that SHE could die and holds Historia in contempt for it, rebuffing her daughters attempts to bond with her and shwoing nothing but contempt when its clear her daughter loves her]]. She practically begged Captain Ackerman to [[DirtyCoward only kill Historia, her daughter and a child, and let her live while making no attempt to try and convince him to spare them both]]. She even regrets NOT having the courage to kill Historia herself as soon as she was born to save her own life.
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* SatelliteCharacter: She was Rods old mistress who hated her daughter because she was afraid of dying. Not much is known about her besides that.
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* WorldsMostBeautifulWoman: Historia describes her mother as being very beautiful when talking about her. It also likely the only nice thing she can really say about her.
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* TheResenter: Refused to even talk to her daughter and threw her off of her when she tried to hug her [[NeverMyFault because she blamed her for her situation]].
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* AbusiveParents: Alma ''hated'' her daughter, avoiding her at all costs and reacting violently when Historia attempted to hug her. She only spoke to her daughter twice, and both times expressed how much she wanted her child dead. On the flipside, Historia's father flippantly seems to want ''both'' of them dead, but can't stand watching his daughter die.
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* AbusiveParents: Alma ''hated'' her daughter, avoiding her at all costs and reacting violently when Historia attempted to hug her. She only spoke to her daughter twice, and both times expressed how much she wanted the first was to voice her child dead.desire to have the courage to kill her, the other was to voice regret over having had her in the first place. On the flipside, Historia's father flippantly seems to want ''both'' of them dead, but can't stand watching his daughter die.
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* AngerBornOfWorry: Atleast half of her hatred towards her daughter is that, being the illegitimate child of Rod Reiss, it but her in danger of being executed at any time if her parentage was discovered making her scared for her life 24/7. Even when Rod comes to claim Historia she is still visibly afraid that it will lead the council to her. Unfortunately her fears turn out to be legitimate.
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* AngerBornOfWorry: Atleast half Most of her hatred towards her daughter is that, being the illegitimate child of Rod Reiss, it but her in danger of being executed at any time if her parentage was discovered making her scared for her life 24/7. Even when Rod comes to claim Historia she is still visibly afraid that it will lead the council to her. Unfortunately her fears turn out to be legitimate.
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* DirtyCoward: She would rather have the council execute her own daughter and leave her alone than die herself. She even contemplated killing Historia when she was born to save her own life. Thankfully she didn’t have the courage to do so.
* DisappearedDad: She left Historia and her parents farm for good after her daughter tries to hug her. She only returned years later with Rod when he decided to take Historia home with him after the murders of his legitimate family.
* DisappearedDad: She left Historia and her parents farm for good after her daughter tries to hug her. She only returned years later with Rod when he decided to take Historia home with him after the murders of his legitimate family.
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* DirtyCoward: She practically begged Kenny Ackerman to kill Historia but let her live. She would rather have the council execute her own daughter and leave her alone than die herself. along with her. She even contemplated killing admits to desiring to kill Historia when she was born to save her own life. Thankfully life only refraining because, ironically, she didn’t have lacks the courage to do so.
* DisappearedDad: She left Historia and her parents farm for good after her daughtertries tried to hug her. She only returned years later with Rod when he decided to take Historia home with him after the murders of his legitimate family.
* DisappearedDad: She left Historia and her parents farm for good after her daughter
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* FreudianExcuse: Her hatred for Historia is because she had been in danger of being executed by the council for having Reiss' illegitimate child and because it ruined her "relationship" with Rod. That being said she never attempted to try to connect with or even talk to hr own child, even when Historia tried to connect with her.
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* FreudianExcuse: Her hatred for Historia is because she had been in danger of being executed by the council for having Reiss' illegitimate child and because it ruined her "relationship" with Rod.child. That being said she never attempted to try to connect with or even talk to hr own child, even when Historia tried to connect with her.
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* Jerkass: What little we see of her, she’s a neglectful mother who silently wanted her own daughter (who she never even interacted with) at best, and a coward ready to sacrifice her young daughter to save herself at worst. Rod considered her the only one that could understand him which puts her overall personality into question. See AmbiguousSituation above.
* KickTheDog: The first time she ever interacted (spoke or touched) with her daughter (a young girl at the time) was smacking her off of her so hard that it broke her nose then lamenting over not having the courage to kill her when she was born.
* KickTheDog: The first time she ever interacted (spoke or touched) with her daughter (a young girl at the time) was smacking her off of her so hard that it broke her nose then lamenting over not having the courage to kill her when she was born.
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above. Theres also the fact that she entered an affair with Rod knowing that he was a married man.
* KickTheDog: The first time she ever interacted (spoke or touched) with her daughter (a young girl at the time) wassmacking throwing her off of her so hard that it broke her nose then lamenting over not having the courage to kill her when she was born.her.
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* LethallyStupid: If you think about it, her entering an affair with Rod counts as this given that she knew what would happen if they were caught. [[HoistByTheirOwnPetard She also presumably continued seeing Rod even after she was banished, this red to Rod knowing to get her first before seeing Historia, which meant that she was in the right place and time for Kenny to kill her]].
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* MisplacedBlame: She resents her daughter for her situation and eventual death but she should really be blaming Reiss for abandoning both of them and letting her get killed.
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* OffingTheOffspring: She ''wished'' she had killed her daughter, while Lord Reiss ultimately spares Historia and forces her to adopt a new identity and go into hiding.
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* OffingTheOffspring: Barely averted. She ''wished'' she had killed the guts to kill her daughter, while daughter. While Lord Reiss ultimately spares Historia and forces her to adopt a new identity and go into hiding.
* ProneToTears: She CRIES over her regret of having Historia and NOT finding the will power to kill her.
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* SympathyForTheDevil: Despite her cruel treatment of her, Historia still cannot resent her because she knows that it was all out of the pain of having her life ruined by Rod not taming responsibility for them and for the fear (and eventually being) executed for her conception.
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* SympathyForTheDevil: Despite her cruel treatment of her, Historia still cannot resent her because she knows that it was all out of the pain of having her life ruined by Rod not taming taking responsibility for them and for the fear (and eventually being) executed for her conception.
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* UnequalPairing: Alma, a lowly servant, and Rod Reiss, the true ruler of humanity.
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* UnequalPairing: Alma, a lowly servant, and Rod Reiss, the true ruler of humanity.the walls.
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* WouldHurtAChild: Her daughter tried to hug her when she was very young, her response was to throw her off her so violently that it breaks Historia's nose and makes it bleed, then tearfully says how much she regrets NOT KILLING HER as a baby.
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* WouldHurtAChild: Her daughter tried to hug her when she was very young, her response was to throw her off her so violently that it she flies several feet, breaks Historia's nose and makes it bleed, then tearfully says how much bleed. She them admitted that the only reason she regrets NOT KILLING HER as a baby.hadn't crossed into OffingTheOffspring territory is simply because she lacked the courage to do so.
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Ambiguously Brown wick cleaning. Having a tan doesn't make anyone qualify for this trope. There's a handful of skin tones that fall under "white" or "pale-skinned".
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* AmbiguouslyBrown: Likely a result of grilling trainees in the sun over several years.
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* Jerkass: What little we see if her, she’s a neglectful mother who silently wanted her own daughter (who she never even interacted with) at best, and a coward ready to sacrifice her young daughter to save herself at worst. Rod considered her the only one that could understand him which puts her overall personality into question. See AmbiguousSituation above.
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* IronicName: Her name means “kind and loving” in Latin, while the details of her relationship with Rod are unclear, Alma was far from that with her own daughter. [[SubvertedTrope However]], [[MeaningfulName in Hebrew her name means “unmarried woman” which is fitting as a mistress who never married herself.]]
* Jerkass: What little we seeif of her, she’s a neglectful mother who silently wanted her own daughter (who she never even interacted with) at best, and a coward ready to sacrifice her young daughter to save herself at worst. Rod considered her the only one that could understand him which puts her overall personality into question. See AmbiguousSituation above.
* Jerkass: What little we see
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* AmbiguousSituation: Did she actually love Reiss or was she actually a GoldDigger who hoped that comforting her master in a time of despair and entering an affair with her would result in him leaving his wife for her.
** Captain Ackerman thinks it’s the latter, even suggesting that she might have had Historia to try and convince Rod to make her his new wife. Though this could have just been him being an ass as he’s strangling Rod infront of Historia at the time.
*** Even if she did have real feelings for Reiss and/or Historia’s birth was an accident, it’s clear that she still valued her own livelihood and survival over others, including her own daughter.
** Captain Ackerman thinks it’s the latter, even suggesting that she might have had Historia to try and convince Rod to make her his new wife. Though this could have just been him being an ass as he’s strangling Rod infront of Historia at the time.
*** Even if she did have real feelings for Reiss and/or Historia’s birth was an accident, it’s clear that she still valued her own livelihood and survival over others, including her own daughter.
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* AngerBornOfWorry: Atleast half of her hatred towards her daughter is that, being the illegitimate child of Rod Reiss, it but her in danger of being executed at any time if her parentage was discovered.
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* AngerBornOfWorry: Atleast half of her hatred towards her daughter is that, being the illegitimate child of Rod Reiss, it but her in danger of being executed at any time if her parentage was discovered. discovered making her scared for her life 24/7. Even when Rod comes to claim Historia she is still visibly afraid that it will lead the council to her. Unfortunately her fears turn out to be legitimate.
* BlatantLies: She fervently denies that Historia is her daughter when they are captured by members of [[StateSec the First Brigade,]] in an attempt to save her own skin. Lord Reiss himself [[BlatantLies confirms that she and Historia are indeed in no way related to him to try and help her and Historia out.]] Unfortunately, Captain Ackerman sees right through this and opens up her throat.
* DirtyCoward: She would rather have the council execute her own daughter and leave her alone than die herself. She even contemplated killing Historia when she was born to save her own life. Thankfully she didn’t have the courage to do so.
* BlatantLies: She fervently denies that Historia is her daughter when they are captured by members of [[StateSec the First Brigade,]] in an attempt to save her own skin. Lord Reiss himself [[BlatantLies confirms that she and Historia are indeed in no way related to him to try and help her and Historia out.]] Unfortunately, Captain Ackerman sees right through this and opens up her throat.
* DirtyCoward: She would rather have the council execute her own daughter and leave her alone than die herself. She even contemplated killing Historia when she was born to save her own life. Thankfully she didn’t have the courage to do so.
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* GoldDigger: It’s entirely possible that she didn’t really love Rod, she just hoped to gain more from him in their affair. Kenny Ackerman seems to think so. He even told Historia that her mother originally hoped having her would get Rod to leave his wife for her. [[NeverMyFault But instead it just got her removed from staff, sent back to her family the farm and with the constant threat of death over her head. Which is why she hates Historia so much.]]
* HoistByHisOwnPetard: She fervently denies that Historia is her daughter when they are captured by members of [[StateSec the First Brigade,]] presumably in an attempt to save her own skin. After Lord Reiss ''[[BlatantLies confirms]]'' [[BlatantLies that she and Historia are indeed in no way related to him,]] Captain Ackerman almost immediately opens up her throat.
** According to Kenny, [[AlternativeCharacterInterpretation she purposely had Historia in hopes of becoming Ross new wife]]. Unfortunately, [[HorribleJudgeOfCharacter Rod chose to cover his mistake]], [[DidntThinkThisThrough got her removed from staff and placed her in danger of being targeted]]. [[NeverMyFault But of course if you ask her, it’s all Historia’s fault]].
* HoistByHisOwnPetard: She fervently denies that Historia is her daughter when they are captured by members of [[StateSec the First Brigade,]] presumably in an attempt to save her own skin. After Lord Reiss ''[[BlatantLies confirms]]'' [[BlatantLies that she and Historia are indeed in no way related to him,]] Captain Ackerman almost immediately opens up her throat.
** According to Kenny, [[AlternativeCharacterInterpretation she purposely had Historia in hopes of becoming Ross new wife]]. Unfortunately, [[HorribleJudgeOfCharacter Rod chose to cover his mistake]], [[DidntThinkThisThrough got her removed from staff and placed her in danger of being targeted]]. [[NeverMyFault But of course if you ask her, it’s all Historia’s fault]].
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* GoldDigger: It’s entirely possible that she didn’t really love Rod, she just hoped to gain more from him in their affair. Kenny Ackerman seems to think so. He even told Historia that her mother originally hoped having her would get Rod to leave his wife for her. [[NeverMyFault But instead it just got her removed from staff, sent back to her family the farm and with the constant threat of death over her head. Which is why she hates Historia so much.]]
* HoistByHisOwnPetard:ItsAllAboutMe: She fervently denies that Historia is her daughter when they are captured by members of [[StateSec the First Brigade,]] presumably in an attempt to save was only ever concerned about her own skin. After Lord Reiss ''[[BlatantLies confirms]]'' [[BlatantLies that she and Historia are indeed in no way related to him,]] survival, not her daughters. She practically begged Captain Ackerman almost immediately opens up to [[DirtyCoward only kill Historia, her throat.
** Accordingdaughter and a child, and let her live while making no attempt to Kenny, [[AlternativeCharacterInterpretation she purposely had try and convince him to spare them both]]. She even regrets NOT having the courage to kill Historia in hopes of herself as soon as she was born to save her own life.
* {{Irony}}: Her becomingRoss new wife]]. Unfortunately, [[HorribleJudgeOfCharacter Rod chose to cover his mistake]], [[DidntThinkThisThrough got her removed from staff and placed her in danger of pregnant with Historia put a death wish on both their heads. Historia for being targeted]]. [[NeverMyFault But an illegitimate Reiss and her for the crime of course birthing her. However, ultimately she ended up dying while Historia was allowed to live under a different name. Even more so is that, if you ask believe she was a GoldDigger, Historia ended up growing up to be Queen of the walls.
* Jerkass: What little we see if her,it’s all Historia’s fault]].she’s a neglectful mother who silently wanted her own daughter (who she never even interacted with) at best, and a coward ready to sacrifice her young daughter to save herself at worst. Rod considered her the only one that could understand him which puts her overall personality into question. See AmbiguousSituation above.
* KickTheDog: The first time she ever interacted (spoke or touched) with her daughter (a young girl at the time) was smacking her off of her so hard that it broke her nose then lamenting over not having the courage to kill her when she was born.
* HoistByHisOwnPetard:
** According
* {{Irony}}: Her becoming
* Jerkass: What little we see if her,
* KickTheDog: The first time she ever interacted (spoke or touched) with her daughter (a young girl at the time) was smacking her off of her so hard that it broke her nose then lamenting over not having the courage to kill her when she was born.
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* MysteriousPast: Unsurprisingly, not much is known about her prior to being Historia's mother. Somehow a lowly servant girl managed to become the sole confidant and eventual lover of the True Head of the Royal Family.
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* MysteriousPast: Unsurprisingly, not much is known about her prior to being Historia's mother. Somehow mother and Rod Reiss’ former mistress. All that’s known is that her family worked a lowly servant girl managed to become farm owned by the sole confidant Reiss’ and eventual lover of the True Head of the Royal Family.she entered an affair with Rod (presumably after what happened to Freida) which resulted in Historia’s pregnancy and her having to leave him for her own safety.
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* PetTheDog: She was there for Reiss when his daughter Frida fell under the influence of the founding Titan, which started their relationship. However, given what little we see if her, it’s unclear how much of this was genuine sympathy or if she had other motives. See AmbiguousSituation above.
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* DirtyCoward: Begs the First Brigade to let her go and to kill Historia, her daughter and a child, instead.
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* DirtyCoward: Begs the First Brigade to let DisappearedDad: She left Historia and her go and to kill Historia, parents farm for good after her daughter and a child, instead.tries to hug her. She only returned years later with Rod when he decided to take Historia home with him after the murders of his legitimate family.
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* FreudianExcuse: Her hatred for Historia is because she had been in danger of being executed by the council for having Reiss' illegitimate child and because it ruined her "relationship" with Rod. That being said she never attempted to try to connect with or even talk to hr own child, even when Historia tried to connect with her.
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* SympathyForTheDevil: Despite her cruel treatment of her, Historia still cannot resent her because she knows that it was all out of the pain of having her life ruined by Rod not taming responsibility for them and for the fear (and eventually being) executed for her conception.
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* WouldHurtAChild: Her daughter tried to hug her when she was very young, her response was to throw her off her so violently that it breaks Historia's nose and makes it bleed, then tearfully says how much she regrets NOT KILLING HER as a baby.
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* FarmersDaughter: Her parents run a farm, which is where Historia ended growing up. Alma herself is very beautiful and would often get dolled up when she went to the interior, presumably to see Rod.
* GoldDigger: It’s entirely possible that she didn’t really love Rod, she just hoped to gain more from him in their affair. So the other half of the reason she hates her daughter is that by getting pregnant with her before marriage it got her exiled from the Reiss’ castle and ruined her chances.
** Flashbacks show Rod crying into her lap claiming she’s the only one who understood him, which would imply a caring side to her. But, if how she cruelly ignored, hurt and treated her daughter wasn’t enough of an indicator that she wasn’t very nice, flashbacks from Historia’s childhood show that she did nothing to help her own parents run their farm and spent all her time either reading or going into town nicely dressed. So either Historia’s birth greatly shifted her personality or she was never very nice to begin with.
* GoldDigger: It’s entirely possible that she didn’t really love Rod, she just hoped to gain more from him in their affair. So the other half of the reason she hates her daughter is that by getting pregnant with her before marriage it got her exiled from the Reiss’ castle and ruined her chances.
** Flashbacks show Rod crying into her lap claiming she’s the only one who understood him, which would imply a caring side to her. But, if how she cruelly ignored, hurt and treated her daughter wasn’t enough of an indicator that she wasn’t very nice, flashbacks from Historia’s childhood show that she did nothing to help her own parents run their farm and spent all her time either reading or going into town nicely dressed. So either Historia’s birth greatly shifted her personality or she was never very nice to begin with.
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* FarmersDaughter: Her parents run a farm, which is where Historia ended growing up. Alma herself is very beautiful and would often get dolled up when she went to the interior, presumably to see Rod.
interior.
* GoldDigger: It’s entirely possible that she didn’t really love Rod, she just hoped to gain more from him in their affair.So Kenny Ackerman seems to think so. He even told Historia that her mother originally hoped having her would get Rod to leave his wife for her. [[NeverMyFault But instead it just got her removed from staff, sent back to her family the other half of farm and with the reason constant threat of death over her head. Which is why she hates her daughter is that by getting pregnant with her before marriage it got her exiled from the Reiss’ castle and ruined her chances.
** Flashbacks show Rod crying into her lap claiming she’s the only one who understood him, which would imply a caring side to her. But, if how she cruelly ignored, hurt and treated her daughter wasn’t enough of an indicator that she wasn’t very nice, flashbacks from Historia’s childhood show that she did nothing to help her own parents run their farm and spent all her time either reading or going into town nicely dressed. So either Historia’s birth greatly shifted her personality or she was never very nice to begin with.Historia so much.]]
* GoldDigger: It’s entirely possible that she didn’t really love Rod, she just hoped to gain more from him in their affair.
** Flashbacks show Rod crying into her lap claiming she’s the only one who understood him, which would imply a caring side to her. But, if how she cruelly ignored, hurt and treated her daughter wasn’t enough of an indicator that she wasn’t very nice, flashbacks from Historia’s childhood show that she did nothing to help her own parents run their farm and spent all her time either reading or going into town nicely dressed. So either Historia’s birth greatly shifted her personality or she was never very nice to begin with.
** According to Kenny, [[AlternativeCharacterInterpretation she purposely had Historia in hopes of becoming Ross new wife]]. Unfortunately, [[HorribleJudgeOfCharacter Rod chose to cover his mistake]], [[DidntThinkThisThrough got her removed from staff and placed her in danger of being targeted]]. [[NeverMyFault But of course if you ask her, it’s all Historia’s fault]].
* LazyBum: She never helped her parents or daughter run the farm, she was either always reading or going into town.
* LazyBum: She never helped her parents or daughter run the farm, she was either always reading or going into town.
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* OnlyFriend: She was the source of solace and consolation to Rod after his sweet daughter Frieda lost her humanity to the Will of the First King.
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* OnlyFriend: She was the source of solace and consolation to Rod after his sweet daughter Frieda lost her humanity to the Will of the First King. This led to an affair which may or may-not have been Alma’s hopes of becoming his new wife. But whether Alma truly meant to get pregnant with Historia as a means of (unsuccessfully) pressuring Rod into marrying her, or if it was an accident, Historia’s birth ruined it for her.
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* TheUnreveal: It's not known why she hated her daughter that much, but there are three possibilities:
** Alma could have been aware of the Reiss family's inaction towards the Titans and developed disgust towards her daughter, a Reiss;
** Because she could have wanted to bite more that she could chew in relation to her "relationship" with Rod Reiss, who wanted nothing to do with her. He even had her killed, and would have killed Historia too had she not agreed to drop her name and whatever claim she felt entitled to just because she's his daughter.
*** It's implied that she is killed by the Central MP 1st Brigade so that she and Historia don't contest Rod's power as king. The plan was to kill Historia too, had Rod not intervened.
** A final possibility is that Alma knew that having and keeping Historia, a bastard royal child, would eventually paint a target on her head. [[VoodooShark Which raises further questions about why she chose to keep the baby.]] Maybe she really couldn't bring herself to kill or abandon her own daughter or maybe Rod left explicit instructions that Historia is supposed to be unharmed and/or used as a backup in case something ever happened.
** Alma could have been aware of the Reiss family's inaction towards the Titans and developed disgust towards her daughter, a Reiss;
** Because she could have wanted to bite more that she could chew in relation to her "relationship" with Rod Reiss, who wanted nothing to do with her. He even had her killed, and would have killed Historia too had she not agreed to drop her name and whatever claim she felt entitled to just because she's his daughter.
*** It's implied that she is killed by the Central MP 1st Brigade so that she and Historia don't contest Rod's power as king. The plan was to kill Historia too, had Rod not intervened.
** A final possibility is that Alma knew that having and keeping Historia, a bastard royal child, would eventually paint a target on her head. [[VoodooShark Which raises further questions about why she chose to keep the baby.]] Maybe she really couldn't bring herself to kill or abandon her own daughter or maybe Rod left explicit instructions that Historia is supposed to be unharmed and/or used as a backup in case something ever happened.
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* AngerBornOfWorry: Atleast half of her hatred towards her daughter is that, being the illegitimate child of Rod Reiss, it but her in danger of being executed at any time if her parentage was discovered.
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* GoldDigger: It’s entirely possible that she didn’t really love Rod, she just hoped to gain more from him in their affair. So the other half of the reason she hates her daughter is that by getting pregnant with her before marriage it got her exiled from the Reiss’ castle and ruined her chances.
** Flashbacks show Rod crying into her lap claiming she’s the only one who understood him, which would imply a caring side to her. But, if how she cruelly ignored, hurt and treated her daughter wasn’t enough of an indicator that she wasn’t very nice, flashbacks from Historia’s childhood show that she did nothing to help her own parents run their farm and spent all her time either reading or going into town nicely dressed. So either Historia’s birth greatly shifted her personality or she was never very nice to begin with.
** Flashbacks show Rod crying into her lap claiming she’s the only one who understood him, which would imply a caring side to her. But, if how she cruelly ignored, hurt and treated her daughter wasn’t enough of an indicator that she wasn’t very nice, flashbacks from Historia’s childhood show that she did nothing to help her own parents run their farm and spent all her time either reading or going into town nicely dressed. So either Historia’s birth greatly shifted her personality or she was never very nice to begin with.
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* MisplacedBlame: She resents her daughter for her situation and eventual death but she should really be blaming Reiss for abandoning both of them and letting her get killed.
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!!!'''Voiced by:''' Junko Kitanishi (JP)
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!!!'''Voiced by:''' Junko Kitanishi (JP)
(JP), Marisa Duran (EN)
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!!!'''Voiced by:''' Kiyomitsu Mizuuchi (JP)(JP), Creator/DCDouglas (EN)
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An Axe To Grind is no longer a trope
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* AnAxeToGrind: One of them killed Mikasa's mother with an axe.
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Removing misuse as it doesn't seem to refer to a regular thing that makes them angry regularly but a one time thing.
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* BerserkButton: Learning what Gabi did to the girl who saved her own life years before sends her flying into a pure rage. Note that this is ''after'' Gabi just went on a tirade about how Kaya's own mother deserved to die for the sins of their ancestors centuries ago and Kaya was fully willing to forgive Gabi for that.
