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-> [[{{Characters/Arrowverse}} Return to the Arrowverse characters index]]
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* CruelAndUnusualDeath: ''Three'' versions of himself from different time periods consecutively die horrible deaths. His 1950s self gets immolated, his 1970s self gets beaten to a pulp before getting his neck snapped, and his 2021 self gets stabbed in the chest and then chucked into an electrical breaker.
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* TheBadGuyWins: Technically speaking, Savage ''already'' won in the BadFuture where he has conquered the Earth and killed Rip's wife and son. The entirely of the first season is dedicated to preventing these events, in which the Rip and the Legends actually fail. They ''do'' however stop his later EvilPlan which was to destroy the Earth at three different points in history, thus resetting time and bringing history back to Ancient Egypt.
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* OneManArmy: Savage has been shown to easily slaughter large groups. In the first season finale, he butchers a Nazi convoy with contemptuous ease.
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* OneManArmy: Savage has been shown to easily slaughter large groups. groups.
** In his debut in the ''Series/HeroesJoinForces'' crossover, he is able to stomp Green Arrow and the Flash simultaneously, then later with the Hawks thrown in too. It actually takes all of Team Arrow to fight him at once (during which he's able to fend all of them off simultaneously) just to keep him ''distracted'' long enough for Oliver and Barry to finish him off with a LegendaryWeapon.
** In the first season finale, he butchers a Nazi convoy with contemptuous ease.
** In his debut in the ''Series/HeroesJoinForces'' crossover, he is able to stomp Green Arrow and the Flash simultaneously, then later with the Hawks thrown in too. It actually takes all of Team Arrow to fight him at once (during which he's able to fend all of them off simultaneously) just to keep him ''distracted'' long enough for Oliver and Barry to finish him off with a LegendaryWeapon.
** In the first season finale, he butchers a Nazi convoy with contemptuous ease.
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!!! '''Appearances:''' ''Series/{{The Flash|2014}}'' | ''Series/{{Arrow}}'' | ''Series/LegendsOfTomorrow''
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* ANaziByAnyOtherName: The 22nd incarnations are obviously {{Exp}y}}ies of the real Nazi. Ironically, Savage himself kills actual Nazis during the Season 1 finale.
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* ANaziByAnyOtherName: The 22nd incarnations are obviously {{Exp}y}}ies {{Exp|y}}ies of the real Nazi. Ironically, Savage himself kills actual Nazis during the Season 1 finale.
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* TheBusCameBack: [[spoiler: The "Legends" Season 4 finale reveals he was (predictably) sent to Hell after his death; he's sent to torment Ray but turns out he's mellowed out a ''lot'' so they just play board games instead.]]
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* ANaziByAnyOtherName: The 22nd incarnations are obviously {{Expy}}s of the real Nazi. Ironically, Savage himself kills actual Nazis during the Season 1 finale.
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* ANaziByAnyOtherName: The 22nd incarnations are obviously {{Expy}}s {{Exp}y}}ies of the real Nazi. Ironically, Savage himself kills actual Nazis during the Season 1 finale.
* AbortedArc: Malcolm is seen collecting his ashes, heavily suggesting a future alliance between them. Nothing came of it.
* CelebrityParadox: Felicity name drops ''Series/MrRobot'' during ''Arrow'' Season 7. Her actress is a main cast member of the show.
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* LifeDrinker: In addition to Savage himself, a normal human who drinks the blood of Kendra or Carter will have their lifespan increased by a hundred years.
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* LifeDrinker: Savage's immortality is maintained by him absorbing the life force of Kendra and Carter every time he kills them. How frequently he needs to do this or what exactly happens if he ceases to do this is not specified.
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* WowingCthulhu: He states he had never encountered the likes of heroes such as Green Arrow or The Flash, having given him far more resistance than anyone in years.
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* HeroKiller: He's a very powerful immortal with Barry, Oliver, and Malcolm, all being aware of how much of a threat he is. [[spoiler:He even ends up as a literal example, killing ''all members'' of Teams Arrow and Flash sans Barry, the Hawks and the entire Central City (possibly also including [[TheyKilledKennyAgain Sara]], since she mentioned last time that she'll be staying there with her mother for a while) until Barry resets the timeline to a day via his uncontrollable TimeTravel powers]]. He then killed the Carter Hall incarnation of Hawkman permanently, and presumably many heroes throughout history.
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* HeroKiller: He's a very powerful immortal with Barry, Oliver, and Malcolm, all being aware of how much of a threat he is. [[spoiler:He He even ends up as a literal example, killing ''all members'' of Teams Arrow and Flash sans Barry, the Hawks and the entire Central City (possibly also including [[TheyKilledKennyAgain Sara]], since she mentioned last time that she'll be staying there with her mother for a while) until Barry resets the timeline to a day via his uncontrollable TimeTravel powers]].powers. He then killed the Carter Hall incarnation of Hawkman permanently, and presumably many heroes throughout history.
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* UncertainDoom: It's not clear if he's one of the casualties when The Legends crash his {{Cult}}'s gathering to [[spoiler:reclaim Carter's body]].
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* UncertainDoom: It's not clear if he's one of the casualties when The Legends crash his {{Cult}}'s gathering to [[spoiler:reclaim reclaim Carter's body]].body.
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* DrunkOnTheDarkSide: Quite enjoys herself after [[spoiler:becoming Firestorm after forcing Sten to merge with her.]]
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* DrunkOnTheDarkSide: Quite enjoys herself after [[spoiler:becoming becoming Firestorm after forcing Sten Stein to merge with her.]]
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* DeathByAdaptation: [[spoiler:He either dies when Vostok explodes or killed by the inmate he was stuck with.]]
* DecompositeCharacter: [[spoiler:In the comics, he's the Soviet Firestorm. Here, it was Valentina Vostok.]]
* DecompositeCharacter: [[spoiler:In the comics, he's the Soviet Firestorm. Here, it was Valentina Vostok.]]
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* DeathByAdaptation: [[spoiler:He He either dies when Vostok explodes or killed by the inmate he was stuck with.]]
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* DecompositeCharacter:[[spoiler:In In the comics, he's the Soviet Firestorm. Here, it was Valentina Vostok.]]
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* UncertainDoom: [[spoiler:It's unclear if he survives Vostok's explosion, but last time we see him was imprisoned with an angry inmate.]]
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* UncertainDoom: [[spoiler:It's It's unclear if he survives Vostok's explosion, but last time we see him was imprisoned with an angry inmate.]]
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* ForegoneConclusion: According to history, Per Degaton is eventually betrayed and murdered by Savage after conquering most of the world. The Legends' attempt to avert this future, [[spoiler:but ultimately changes nothing.]]
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* ForegoneConclusion: According to history, Per Degaton is eventually betrayed and murdered by Savage after conquering most of the world. The Legends' attempt to avert this future, [[spoiler:but :but ultimately changes nothing.]]
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* GoodCannotComprehendEvil: It takes both Ray and Stein a while to realize that instead of an innocent woman forced into helping Savage, Valentina is just as ruthless and twisted as he is, willing to kill hundreds of innocent people to create a new Firestorm. Stein especially is appalled a woman so intelligent could follow a monster like Savage but realizes she wants the power.
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* GoodCannotComprehendEvil: It takes both Ray and Stein a while to realize that instead of an innocent woman forced into helping Savage, Valentina is just as ruthless and twisted as he is, willing to kill hundreds of innocent people to create a new Firestorm. Stein especially is appalled a woman so intelligent could follow a monster like Savage but realizes before realizing she wants the power.
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* TallDarkAndSnarky: Once she reveals her true motives, she becomes increasingly snarky.
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* TallDarkAndSnarky: Once she reveals her true motives, she becomes increasingly snarky.She's very smug and hostile and also the tallest (5'11) woman on Earth-1 to date.
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** She's a brilliant nuclear scientist much like Martin Stein, except she's working under an evil tyrant keen on world domination.
** She quite literally becomes an evil Firestorm, dubbed '''Soviet Firestorm'''.
** She's a brilliant nuclear scientist much like Martin Stein, except she's working under an evil tyrant keen on world domination.
** She quite literally becomes an evil Firestorm, dubbed '''Soviet Firestorm'''.
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->'''Known Aliases:''' ComicBook/VandalSavage, Dr. Curtis Knox (1958), Sasha Mahnovski (1975)
->'''Played By:''' Casper Crump
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->'''Played By:''' Casper Crump
->'''Appearances:''' ''Series/{{The Flash|2014}}'' | ''Series/{{Arrow}}'' | ''Series/LegendsOfTomorrow''
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!!! '''Known Aliases:''' ComicBook/VandalSavage, Dr. Curtis Knox (1958), Sasha Mahnovski (1975)
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->'''Known Aliases:''' ComicBook/{{Firestorm}} III, Soviet Firestorm
->'''Played By:''' Stephanie Corneliussen
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->'''Played By:''' Stephanie Corneliussen
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!!! '''Known Aliases:''' ComicBook/{{Firestorm}} III, Soviet Firestorm
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!!! '''Species:''' Android
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* HiddenDepths: Ray notes that he makes a pretty tasty casserole when they run into him as "Dr. Knox" in the 1950s.
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* BigBadEnsemble: Savage is a threat throughout history, but they are also opposed by the Time Masters, [SubvertedTrope who are]] [[BigBadDuumvirate secretly in league with Savage]]. Savage resumes the role of sole BigBad after the Time Masters have been crippled.
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* BigBadEnsemble: Savage is a threat throughout history, but they are also opposed by the Time Masters, [SubvertedTrope [[SubvertedTrope who are]] [[BigBadDuumvirate secretly in league with Savage]]. Savage resumes the role of sole BigBad after the Time Masters have been crippled.
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* NotQuiteDead: While she seems to be KilledOffForReal after Jax successfully pulls Stein out of her which causes her Firestorm body to destabilize and explode in a nuclear explosion, WordOfGod says she became Negative Woman.
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* NotQuiteDead: While she seems to be KilledOffForReal after Jax successfully pulls Stein out of her which causes her Firestorm body to destabilize and explode in a nuclear explosion, WordOfGod says she became Negative Woman. However, this plot may have been dropped.
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* AssholeVictim: [[spoiler:All of Savage's deaths in the first season finale are very well-deserved.]]
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* AssholeVictim: [[spoiler:All All of Savage's deaths in the first season finale are very well-deserved.]]
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* BigBadEnsemble: Savage is a threat throughout history, but they are also opposed by the Time Masters, [[spoiler:[[SubvertedTrope [SubvertedTrope who are]] [[BigBadDuumvirate secretly in league with Savage]]. Savage resumes the role of sole BigBad after the Time Masters have been crippled.]]
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* BroughtDownToNormal: [[spoiler:Loses his immortality in the finale due to the radiation he needs for his endgame.]]
* CharacterDeath: [[spoiler:Three of them after being rendered mortal in the first season finale: he gets burned alive by Mick in 1958, a NeckSnap from Sara in 1975, and a knife to the chest followed by electrocution from Kendra and Rip in 2021.]]
* CharacterDeath: [[spoiler:Three of them after being rendered mortal in the first season finale: he gets burned alive by Mick in 1958, a NeckSnap from Sara in 1975, and a knife to the chest followed by electrocution from Kendra and Rip in 2021.]]
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* BroughtDownToNormal: [[spoiler:Loses Loses his immortality in the finale due to the radiation he needs for his endgame.]]
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* CharacterDeath:[[spoiler:Three Three of them after being rendered mortal in the first season finale: he gets burned alive by Mick in 1958, a NeckSnap from Sara in 1975, and a knife to the chest followed by electrocution from Kendra and Rip in 2021.]]
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* TheCorrupter: Only heavily hinted in the first episodes, but seen in action in Episode 10, when he compels young Per Degaton [[spoiler:to kill his own father.]]
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* TheCorrupter: Only heavily hinted in the first episodes, but seen in action in Episode 10, when he compels young Per Degaton [[spoiler:to to kill his own father.]] father.
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* EvilIsNotAToy: [[spoiler:The Time Masters wanted him in charge of the Earth to stop an AlienInvasion that's coming. It turns out his endgame is to ''destroy'' time all the way back to when he got his powers to let him take over ''then'' rather than in the present, something far far worse.]]
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* EvilIsNotAToy: [[spoiler:The The Time Masters wanted him in charge of the Earth to stop an AlienInvasion that's coming. It turns out his endgame is to ''destroy'' time all the way back to when he got his powers to let him take over ''then'' rather than in the present, something far far worse.]]
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* FromASingleCell: He can regenerate from a single cell, unless Hawkgirl delivers a fatal blow to him. [[spoiler:[[BroughtDownToNormal He loses this due to the radiation of the meteors needed for his endgame]].]]
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* FromASingleCell: He can regenerate from a single cell, unless Hawkgirl delivers a fatal blow to him. [[spoiler:[[BroughtDownToNormal [[BroughtDownToNormal He loses this due to the radiation of the meteors needed for his endgame]].]]
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* GodzillaThreshold: He's such a monster that the only idea about dealing with him is to kill him, nothing else suffices. It's bad enough that when the Flash and Green Arrow disintegrate him before this series, neither hero feels a shred of remorse. Ironically, the only reason [[spoiler:the Time Masters are helping him is because of a coming AlienInvasion that can only be stopped by a world united under Savage's banner]].
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* GodzillaThreshold: He's such a monster that the only idea about dealing with him is to kill him, nothing else suffices. It's bad enough that when the Flash and Green Arrow disintegrate him before this series, neither hero feels a shred of remorse. Ironically, the only reason [[spoiler:the the Time Masters are helping him is because of a coming AlienInvasion that can only be stopped by a world united under Savage's banner]].banner.
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* HoistByHisOwnPetard: [[spoiler:His endgame involves detonating three meteors at three different time periods. However, the radiation of them 'going critical' strips him of his immortality, allowing the Legends to kill him. ''Three times''.]]
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* HoistByHisOwnPetard: [[spoiler:His His endgame involves detonating three meteors at three different time periods. However, the radiation of them 'going critical' strips him of his immortality, allowing the Legends to kill him. ''Three times''.]]
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* KryptoniteFactor: Items present at the time of Carter and Kendra's original death can be used to kill Savage, [[spoiler:and large amounts of Nth metal radiation can cancel out his immortality.]]
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* MurderTheHypotenuse: Has killed Carter multiple times, [[spoiler:including his Carter Hall incarnation, but not his Scythian Torvil incarnation]].
* NearVillainVictory: Had Barry not [[spoiler:reset the timeline, Savage would have successfully killed all of Teams Arrow and Flash sans the former, the Hawks and the entire Central City (possibly including [[TheyKilledKennyAgain Sara]])]].
* NeckSnap: [[spoiler:How Sara kills him in 1975.]]
* NearVillainVictory: Had Barry not [[spoiler:reset the timeline, Savage would have successfully killed all of Teams Arrow and Flash sans the former, the Hawks and the entire Central City (possibly including [[TheyKilledKennyAgain Sara]])]].
* NeckSnap: [[spoiler:How Sara kills him in 1975.]]
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* MurderTheHypotenuse: Has killed Carter multiple times, [[spoiler:including including his Carter Hall incarnation, but not his Scythian Torvil incarnation]].
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* NearVillainVictory: Had Barry not[[spoiler:reset reset the timeline, Savage would have successfully killed all of Teams Arrow and Flash sans the former, the Hawks and the entire Central City (possibly including [[TheyKilledKennyAgain Sara]])]].
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* NeckSnap:[[spoiler:How How Sara kills him in 1975.]]
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* OutOfContinues: [[spoiler:His endgame plan results in the radiation from the three meteors needed for it rendering him mortal. The Legends take advantage of this and kill him three times over.]]
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* OutOfContinues: [[spoiler:His His endgame plan results in the radiation from the three meteors needed for it rendering him mortal. The Legends take advantage of this and kill him three times over.]]
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* SavedByCanon: Teams Flash and Arrow, along with Hawkman and Hawgirl, successfully defeat him by reducing him to ashes. But between [[spoiler:Malcolm collecting his ashes]], the fact that he's ''immortal'', and being announced as the BigBad of the upcoming SpinOff long before the previous seasons of ''Arrow'' and ''Flash'' even ended, the audience knew that he's NotQuiteDead.
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* SavedByCanon: Teams Flash and Arrow, along with Hawkman and Hawgirl, successfully defeat him by reducing him to ashes. But between [[spoiler:Malcolm Malcolm collecting his ashes]], ashes, the fact that he's ''immortal'', and being announced as the BigBad of the upcoming SpinOff long before the previous seasons of ''Arrow'' and ''Flash'' even ended, the audience knew that he's NotQuiteDead.
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* SmallRoleBigImpact: Played with. His appearance in Arrow and The Flash is only an EarlyBirdCameo, but in his single appearance he did the one thing that the villains of the shows failed to do in all four seasons; [[spoiler:kill the entire Team Arrow. Granted, Barry resets it via TimeTravel, but still]]...
* TheSocialDarwinist: He shows some inclinations towards this; in the 1970s, he claims to be making the world a better place "one war at a time", and in 2147, he proposes using the Armageddon virus to thin out the overpopulated Earth [[spoiler:and follows through once Tor Degaton is dead]].
* TheSocialDarwinist: He shows some inclinations towards this; in the 1970s, he claims to be making the world a better place "one war at a time", and in 2147, he proposes using the Armageddon virus to thin out the overpopulated Earth [[spoiler:and follows through once Tor Degaton is dead]].
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* SmallRoleBigImpact: Played with. His appearance in Arrow and The Flash is only an EarlyBirdCameo, but in his single appearance he did the one thing that the villains of the shows failed to do in all four seasons; [[spoiler:kill kill the entire Team Arrow. Granted, Barry resets it via TimeTravel, but still]]...
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* TheSocialDarwinist: He shows some inclinations towards this; in the 1970s, he claims to be making the world a better place "one war at a time", and in 2147, he proposes using the Armageddon virus to thin out the overpopulated Earth[[spoiler:and and follows through once Tor Degaton is dead]].dead.
* TheSocialDarwinist: He shows some inclinations towards this; in the 1970s, he claims to be making the world a better place "one war at a time", and in 2147, he proposes using the Armageddon virus to thin out the overpopulated Earth
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* TermsOfEndangerment: Always calls Kendra "my love". [[spoiler:She turns it back on him when she kills him at the end of Season 1.]]
* ThereIsNoKillLikeOverkill: [[spoiler:Gets no less than ''three'' deaths in the Season 1 finale.]]
* ThereIsNoKillLikeOverkill: [[spoiler:Gets no less than ''three'' deaths in the Season 1 finale.]]
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* TermsOfEndangerment: Always calls Kendra "my love". [[spoiler:She She turns it back on him when she kills him at the end of Season 1.]]
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* TyrantTakesTheHelm: After [[spoiler:manipulating Per Degaton into killing his father]], Savage takes over the Kasnian Conglomerate. He does it again once Per Degaton has outlived his usefulness.
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* TyrantTakesTheHelm: After [[spoiler:manipulating manipulating Per Degaton into killing his father]], father, Savage takes over the Kasnian Conglomerate. He does it again once Per Degaton has outlived his usefulness.
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* AdaptationOriginConnection: [[spoiler:In the comics, her origin as Negative Woman was due to accidentally absorbing the energies of the previous Negative Man. In this universe, she will become Negative Woman (according to WordOfGod) due to the botched fusion with Stein to become a Firestorm.]]
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* AdaptationOriginConnection: [[spoiler:In In the comics, her origin as Negative Woman was due to accidentally absorbing the energies of the previous Negative Man. In this universe, she will become Negative Woman (according to WordOfGod) due to the botched fusion with Stein to become a Firestorm.]]
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* BitchInSheepsClothing: Gorgeous exterior and cultured but [[spoiler:she's every bit as nasty as Vandal Savage, she's working to create a Soviet version of Firestorm and each attempt kills every human guinea pig she's used.]]
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* BitchInSheepsClothing: Gorgeous exterior and cultured but [[spoiler:she's she's every bit as nasty as Vandal Savage, she's working to create a Soviet version of Firestorm and each attempt kills every human guinea pig she's used.]]
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* CompositeCharacter: [[spoiler:Her ally Mikhail Arkadin's role as the Soviet Firestorm in the comics was fused into her.]]
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* CompositeCharacter: [[spoiler:Her Her ally Mikhail Arkadin's role as the Soviet Firestorm in the comics was fused into her.]]
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* EvilIsBurningHot: [[spoiler:After she forces Stein to fuse with her as Firestorm.]]
* FusionDance: [[spoiler:She becomes Firestorm with Martin Stein.]]
* GoodCannotComprehendEvil: It takes both Ray and Stein a while to realize that instead of an innocent woman forced into helping Savage, Valentina [[spoiler:is just as ruthless and twisted as he is, willing to kill hundreds of innocent people to create a new Firestorm. Stein especially is appalled a woman so intelligent could follow a monster like Savage but realizes she wants the power.]]
* HellBentForLeather: She wears a leather outfit when [[spoiler:she fuses with Prof. Stein]].
* HotScientist: A stunningly hot physicist. [[spoiler:And literally too, after her forced FusionDance with Stein.]]
* FusionDance: [[spoiler:She becomes Firestorm with Martin Stein.]]
* GoodCannotComprehendEvil: It takes both Ray and Stein a while to realize that instead of an innocent woman forced into helping Savage, Valentina [[spoiler:is just as ruthless and twisted as he is, willing to kill hundreds of innocent people to create a new Firestorm. Stein especially is appalled a woman so intelligent could follow a monster like Savage but realizes she wants the power.]]
* HellBentForLeather: She wears a leather outfit when [[spoiler:she fuses with Prof. Stein]].
* HotScientist: A stunningly hot physicist. [[spoiler:And literally too, after her forced FusionDance with Stein.]]
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Firestorm.
* FusionDance:[[spoiler:She She becomes Firestorm with Martin Stein.]]
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* GoodCannotComprehendEvil: It takes both Ray and Stein a while to realize that instead of an innocent woman forced into helping Savage, Valentina[[spoiler:is is just as ruthless and twisted as he is, willing to kill hundreds of innocent people to create a new Firestorm. Stein especially is appalled a woman so intelligent could follow a monster like Savage but realizes she wants the power.]]
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* HellBentForLeather: She wears a leather outfit when[[spoiler:she she fuses with Prof. Stein]].
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* HotScientist: A stunningly hot physicist.[[spoiler:And And literally too, after her forced FusionDance with Stein.]]
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* GoodCannotComprehendEvil: It takes both Ray and Stein a while to realize that instead of an innocent woman forced into helping Savage, Valentina
* HellBentForLeather: She wears a leather outfit when
* HotScientist: A stunningly hot physicist.
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* MadScientist: [[spoiler:She's happy to be working with Vandal Savage, as they intend to create their own version of Firestorm to counter the heroes. All the deaths caused by the experiments and the potential casualties if Project Svarog works is a moot point.]]
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* MadScientist: [[spoiler:She's She's happy to be working with Vandal Savage, as they intend to create their own version of Firestorm to counter the heroes. All the deaths caused by the experiments and the potential casualties if Project Svarog works is a moot point.]]
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* NoBodyLeftBehind: [[spoiler:She explodes after Jax defuses Stein from her without the Quantum Splicer.]]
* NotQuiteDead: [[spoiler:While she seems to be KilledOffForReal after Jax successfully pulls Stein out of her which causes her Firestorm body to destabilize and explode in a nuclear explosion, WordOfGod says she became Negative Woman.]]
* NotQuiteDead: [[spoiler:While she seems to be KilledOffForReal after Jax successfully pulls Stein out of her which causes her Firestorm body to destabilize and explode in a nuclear explosion, WordOfGod says she became Negative Woman.]]
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* NoBodyLeftBehind: [[spoiler:She She explodes after Jax defuses Stein from her without the Quantum Splicer.]]
Splicer.
* NotQuiteDead:[[spoiler:While While she seems to be KilledOffForReal after Jax successfully pulls Stein out of her which causes her Firestorm body to destabilize and explode in a nuclear explosion, WordOfGod says she became Negative Woman.]]
* NotQuiteDead:
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* TooDumbToLive: Despite Stein warning her that [[spoiler:forcefully absorbing him into herself in order to become Firestorm is a poor choice, she does it anyway. The minute they separate, she suffers the consequences of her mistake.]]
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* TooDumbToLive: Despite Stein warning her that [[spoiler:forcefully forcefully absorbing him into herself in order to become Firestorm is a poor choice, she does it anyway. The minute they separate, she suffers the consequences of her mistake.]]
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* HitlersTimeTravelExemptionAct: Due to his role in releasing the Armageddon Virus, the team repeatedly compares him to Hitler and argues about the morality of killing a child to prevent the actions of his future self. [[spoiler:Eventually, Hunter chooses not to kill him and sends him back to his father, hoping he can overcome Savage's influence. This doesn't work and only speeds up his rise to power.]]
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* HitlersTimeTravelExemptionAct: Due to his role in releasing the Armageddon Virus, the team repeatedly compares him to Hitler and argues about the morality of killing a child to prevent the actions of his future self. [[spoiler:Eventually, Eventually, Hunter chooses not to kill him and sends him back to his father, hoping he can overcome Savage's influence. This doesn't work and only speeds up his rise to power.]]
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* {{Patricide}}: [[spoiler:At Savage's behest, he murders his own father.]]
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* {{Patricide}}: [[spoiler:At At Savage's behest, he murders his own father.]]
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* SelfMadeOrphan: [[spoiler:Vandal encourages him to off his father.]]
* ShaggyDogStory: [[spoiler:Rip kidnaps him, hoping to kill him and stop the Armageddon virus from spreading. He couldn't and the Armageddon virus ends up appearing five years before it even spreads.]]
* ShaggyDogStory: [[spoiler:Rip kidnaps him, hoping to kill him and stop the Armageddon virus from spreading. He couldn't and the Armageddon virus ends up appearing five years before it even spreads.]]
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* SelfMadeOrphan: [[spoiler:Vandal Vandal encourages him to off his father.]]
father.
* ShaggyDogStory:[[spoiler:Rip Rip kidnaps him, hoping to kill him and stop the Armageddon virus from spreading. He couldn't and the Armageddon virus ends up appearing five years before it even spreads.]]
* ShaggyDogStory:
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* UngratefulBastard: [[spoiler:His father was willing to let the Legends escape to save his life. Per Degaton still murders his father with little more than a whispered apology.]]
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* UngratefulBastard: [[spoiler:His His father was willing to let the Legends escape to save his life. Per Degaton still murders his father with little more than a whispered apology.]]
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* AlwaysVSexy: As stated by her AlliterativeName.
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** Played with. Savage is typically an enemy of Immortal Man, Green Lantern, or the Justice League. While he did fight against Rip Hunter, while he was a member of the Forgotten Heroes (a team assembled to stop Savage), Savage's ArchEnemy is Immortal Man, who's [[CompositeCharacter character was integrated into that of Rip's]]. The Legends are also partly based off the Forgotten Heroes, but the roster was completely different, with all of the Legends sans Rip never having fought against Savage in the comics.
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** Played with. Savage is typically an enemy of Immortal Man, Green Lantern, or the Justice League. While he did fight against Rip Hunter, while when he was a member of the Forgotten Heroes (a team assembled to stop Savage), Savage's ArchEnemy is Immortal Man, who's [[CompositeCharacter character was integrated into that of Rip's]]. The Legends are also partly based off the Forgotten Heroes, but the roster was completely different, with all of the Legends sans Rip never having fought against Savage in the comics.
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* TheCorrupter: Only heavily hinted in the first episodes, but seen in action in Episode 10, when he compels young Per Degaton [[spoiler: to kill his own father.]]
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* TheCorrupter: Only heavily hinted in the first episodes, but seen in action in Episode 10, when he compels young Per Degaton [[spoiler: to [[spoiler:to kill his own father.]]
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* HeroKiller: He's a very powerful immortal with Barry, Oliver, and Malcolm, all being aware of how much of a threat he is. [[spoiler: He even ends up as a literal example, killing ''all members'' of Teams Arrow and Flash sans Barry, the Hawks and the entire Central City (possibly also including [[TheyKilledKennyAgain Sara]], since she mentioned last time that she'll be staying there with her mother for a while) until Barry resets the timeline to a day via his uncontrollable TimeTravel powers]]. He then killed the Carter Hall incarnation of Hawkman permanently, and presumably many heroes throughout history.
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* HeroKiller: He's a very powerful immortal with Barry, Oliver, and Malcolm, all being aware of how much of a threat he is. [[spoiler: He [[spoiler:He even ends up as a literal example, killing ''all members'' of Teams Arrow and Flash sans Barry, the Hawks and the entire Central City (possibly also including [[TheyKilledKennyAgain Sara]], since she mentioned last time that she'll be staying there with her mother for a while) until Barry resets the timeline to a day via his uncontrollable TimeTravel powers]]. He then killed the Carter Hall incarnation of Hawkman permanently, and presumably many heroes throughout history.
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* MurderTheHypotenuse: Has killed Carter multiple times, [[spoiler: including his Carter Hall incarnation, but not his Scythian Torvil incarnation]].
* NearVillainVictory: Had Barry not [[spoiler: reset the timeline, Savage would have successfully killed all of Teams Arrow and Flash sans the former, the Hawks and the entire Central City (possibly including [[TheyKilledKennyAgain Sara]])]].
* NearVillainVictory: Had Barry not [[spoiler: reset the timeline, Savage would have successfully killed all of Teams Arrow and Flash sans the former, the Hawks and the entire Central City (possibly including [[TheyKilledKennyAgain Sara]])]].
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* MurderTheHypotenuse: Has killed Carter multiple times, [[spoiler: including [[spoiler:including his Carter Hall incarnation, but not his Scythian Torvil incarnation]].
* NearVillainVictory: Had Barry not[[spoiler: reset [[spoiler:reset the timeline, Savage would have successfully killed all of Teams Arrow and Flash sans the former, the Hawks and the entire Central City (possibly including [[TheyKilledKennyAgain Sara]])]].
* NearVillainVictory: Had Barry not
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* SavedByCanon: Teams Flash and Arrow, along with Hawkman and Hawgirl, successfully defeat him by reducing him to ashes. But between [[spoiler: Malcolm collecting his ashes]], the fact that he's ''immortal'', and being announced as the BigBad of the upcoming SpinOff long before the previous seasons of ''Arrow'' and ''Flash'' even ended, the audience knew that he's NotQuiteDead.
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* SavedByCanon: Teams Flash and Arrow, along with Hawkman and Hawgirl, successfully defeat him by reducing him to ashes. But between [[spoiler: Malcolm [[spoiler:Malcolm collecting his ashes]], the fact that he's ''immortal'', and being announced as the BigBad of the upcoming SpinOff long before the previous seasons of ''Arrow'' and ''Flash'' even ended, the audience knew that he's NotQuiteDead.
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* SmallRoleBigImpact: Played with. His appearance in Arrow and The Flash is only an EarlyBirdCameo, but in his single appearance he did the one thing that the villains of the shows failed to do in all four seasons; [[spoiler: kill the entire Team Arrow. Granted, Barry resets it via TimeTravel, but still]]...
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* SmallRoleBigImpact: Played with. His appearance in Arrow and The Flash is only an EarlyBirdCameo, but in his single appearance he did the one thing that the villains of the shows failed to do in all four seasons; [[spoiler: kill [[spoiler:kill the entire Team Arrow. Granted, Barry resets it via TimeTravel, but still]]...
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* UncertainDoom: It's not clear if he's one of the casualties when The Legends crash his {{Cult}}'s gathering to [[spoiler: reclaim Carter's body]].
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* UncertainDoom: It's not clear if he's one of the casualties when The Legends crash his {{Cult}}'s gathering to [[spoiler: reclaim [[spoiler:reclaim Carter's body]].
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* BitchInSheepsClothing: Gorgeous exterior and cultured but [[spoiler: she's every bit as nasty as Vandal Savage, she's working to create a Soviet version of Firestorm and each attempt kills every human guinea pig she's used.]]
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* BitchInSheepsClothing: Gorgeous exterior and cultured but [[spoiler: she's [[spoiler:she's every bit as nasty as Vandal Savage, she's working to create a Soviet version of Firestorm and each attempt kills every human guinea pig she's used.]]
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* CompositeCharacter: [[spoiler: Her ally Mikhail Arkadin's role as the Soviet Firestorm in the comics was fused into her.]]
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* CompositeCharacter: [[spoiler: Her [[spoiler:Her ally Mikhail Arkadin's role as the Soviet Firestorm in the comics was fused into her.]]
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* DrunkOnTheDarkSide: Quite enjoys herself after [[spoiler: becoming Firestorm after forcing Sten to merge with her.]]
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* DrunkOnTheDarkSide: Quite enjoys herself after [[spoiler: becoming [[spoiler:becoming Firestorm after forcing Sten to merge with her.]]
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* GoodCannotComprehendEvil: It takes both Ray and Stein a while to realize that instead of an innocent woman forced into helping Savage, Valentina [[spoiler: is just as ruthless and twisted as he is, willing to kill hundreds of innocent people to create a new Firestorm. Stein especially is appalled a woman so intelligent could follow a monster like Savage but realizes she wants the power.]]
* HellBentForLeather: She wears a leather outfit when [[spoiler: she fuses with Prof. Stein]].
* HotScientist: A stunningly hot physicist. [[spoiler: And literally too, after her forced FusionDance with Stein.]]
* HellBentForLeather: She wears a leather outfit when [[spoiler: she fuses with Prof. Stein]].
* HotScientist: A stunningly hot physicist. [[spoiler: And literally too, after her forced FusionDance with Stein.]]
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* GoodCannotComprehendEvil: It takes both Ray and Stein a while to realize that instead of an innocent woman forced into helping Savage, Valentina [[spoiler: is [[spoiler:is just as ruthless and twisted as he is, willing to kill hundreds of innocent people to create a new Firestorm. Stein especially is appalled a woman so intelligent could follow a monster like Savage but realizes she wants the power.]]
* HellBentForLeather: She wears a leather outfit when[[spoiler: she [[spoiler:she fuses with Prof. Stein]].
* HotScientist: A stunningly hot physicist.[[spoiler: And [[spoiler:And literally too, after her forced FusionDance with Stein.]]
* HellBentForLeather: She wears a leather outfit when
* HotScientist: A stunningly hot physicist.
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* MadScientist: [[spoiler: She's happy to be working with Vandal Savage, as they intend to create their own version of Firestorm to counter the heroes. All the deaths caused by the experiments and the potential casualties if Project Svarog works is a moot point.]]
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* MadScientist: [[spoiler: She's [[spoiler:She's happy to be working with Vandal Savage, as they intend to create their own version of Firestorm to counter the heroes. All the deaths caused by the experiments and the potential casualties if Project Svarog works is a moot point.]]
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* NoBodyLeftBehind: [[spoiler: She explodes after Jax defuses Stein from her without the Quantum Splicer.]]
* NotQuiteDead: [[spoiler: While she seems to be KilledOffForReal after Jax successfully pulls Stein out of her which causes her Firestorm body to destabilize and explode in a nuclear explosion, WordOfGod says she became Negative Woman.]]
* NotQuiteDead: [[spoiler: While she seems to be KilledOffForReal after Jax successfully pulls Stein out of her which causes her Firestorm body to destabilize and explode in a nuclear explosion, WordOfGod says she became Negative Woman.]]
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* NoBodyLeftBehind: [[spoiler: She [[spoiler:She explodes after Jax defuses Stein from her without the Quantum Splicer.]]
* NotQuiteDead:[[spoiler: While [[spoiler:While she seems to be KilledOffForReal after Jax successfully pulls Stein out of her which causes her Firestorm body to destabilize and explode in a nuclear explosion, WordOfGod says she became Negative Woman.]]
* NotQuiteDead:
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* TooDumbToLive: Despite Stein warning her that [[spoiler: forcefully absorbing him into herself in order to become Firestorm is a poor choice, she does it anyway. The minute they separate, she suffers the consequences of her mistake.]]
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* TooDumbToLive: Despite Stein warning her that [[spoiler: forcefully [[spoiler:forcefully absorbing him into herself in order to become Firestorm is a poor choice, she does it anyway. The minute they separate, she suffers the consequences of her mistake.]]
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* DeathByAdaptation: [[spoiler: He either dies when Vostok explodes or killed by the inmate he was stuck with.]]
* DecompositeCharacter: [[spoiler: In the comics, he's the Soviet Firestorm. Here, it was Valentina Vostok.]]
* DecompositeCharacter: [[spoiler: In the comics, he's the Soviet Firestorm. Here, it was Valentina Vostok.]]
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* DeathByAdaptation: [[spoiler: He [[spoiler:He either dies when Vostok explodes or killed by the inmate he was stuck with.]]
* DecompositeCharacter:[[spoiler: In [[spoiler:In the comics, he's the Soviet Firestorm. Here, it was Valentina Vostok.]]
* DecompositeCharacter:
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* UncertainDoom: [[spoiler: It's unclear if he survives Vostok's explosion, but last time we see him was imprisoned with an angry inmate.]]
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* UncertainDoom: [[spoiler: It's [[spoiler:It's unclear if he survives Vostok's explosion, but last time we see him was imprisoned with an angry inmate.]]
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* SelfMadeOrphan: [[spoiler: Vandal encourages him to off his father.]]
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* SelfMadeOrphan: [[spoiler: Vandal [[spoiler:Vandal encourages him to off his father.]]
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* AdaptationalHeroism: Not that much, but still applied; the crimes of this version of Vandal Savage don't hold a candle to the atrocities of his comics counterpart. Show!Savage associated with a number of despicable people, whereas Comics!Savage ''was'' a number of despicable people (he claims to have been Genghis Khan, Blackbeard, and Jack the Ripper). This Savage also doesn't subject his daughter to anywhere ''near'' the abuse that Scandal suffered in the comics, and there's no indication that this Savage is a cannibal (in the comics, it's believed that Savage may have ''invented'' cannibalism).
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* AdaptationalHeroism: AdaptationalNiceGuy: Not that much, but still applied; the crimes of this version of Vandal Savage don't hold a candle to the atrocities of his comics counterpart. Show!Savage associated with a number of despicable people, whereas Comics!Savage ''was'' a number of despicable people (he claims to have been Genghis Khan, Blackbeard, and Jack the Ripper). This Savage also doesn't subject his daughter to anywhere ''near'' the abuse that Scandal suffered in the comics, and there's no indication that this Savage is a cannibal (in the comics, it's believed that Savage may have ''invented'' cannibalism).
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* TooPowerfulToLive: It is made clear that the one and only way to put an end to his reign of terror is to [[KilledOffForReal permanently kill him]]. Anything less and he would always return to cause more trouble.
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* WeCanRuleTogether: He wants badly to do this with Chay-Ara, but doesn't seem to have much issue with [[IfICantHaveYou alternate plans]].
* WhatTheHellIsThatAccent: Despite the character being from Ancient Egypt, Casper Crump [[NotEvenBotheringWithTheAccent just uses his natural Danish accent]]. Possibly justified given that during his long life, he has roamed the world and has presumably stayed in individual locations for extended periods of time, making his accent "evolve".
* WhatTheHellIsThatAccent: Despite the character being from Ancient Egypt, Casper Crump [[NotEvenBotheringWithTheAccent just uses his natural Danish accent]]. Possibly justified given that during his long life, he has roamed the world and has presumably stayed in individual locations for extended periods of time, making his accent "evolve".
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* WeCanRuleTogether: He badly wants badly to do this with Chay-Ara, but doesn't seem to have much issue with [[IfICantHaveYou alternate plans]].
* WhatTheHellIsThatAccent: Despite the character being from Ancient Egypt, Casper Crump [[NotEvenBotheringWithTheAccent just uses his natural Danish accent]]. Possibly justified given that during his long life, he has roamed the world and has presumably stayed in individual locations for extended periods of time, making his accent "evolve". Except, he still had a Danish accent even back in his first incarnation in Egypt.
* WhatTheHellIsThatAccent: Despite the character being from Ancient Egypt, Casper Crump [[NotEvenBotheringWithTheAccent just uses his natural Danish accent]]. Possibly justified given that during his long life, he has roamed the world and has presumably stayed in individual locations for extended periods of time, making his accent "evolve". Except, he still had a Danish accent even back in his first incarnation in Egypt.
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* YouHave48Hours: Gives Oliver and Barry 24 hours to surrender the two Hawks to him.
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* HeelFaceTurn: After her HeelRealization, Cassandra sides with the resistance to help bring down her fatherès regime.
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* HeelFaceTurn: After her HeelRealization, Cassandra sides with the resistance to help bring down her fatherès father's regime.
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* DrunkOnTheDarkSide: Quite enjoys herself after [[spoiler: becoming Firestorm after forcing Sten to merge with her.]]
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* AlwaysSomeoneBetter: Savage is an immortal who's lived for thousands of years and has plenty of martial arts skills and fighting experience...but he's no match for a pissed-off Mick, who thoroughly curbstomps him.
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* AlwaysSomeoneBetter: Played with. Savage is an immortal who's lived for thousands of years and has plenty of martial arts skills and fighting experience...but he's no match for a pissed-off Mick, who thoroughly curbstomps him.
** However, given that he was weakened by the Meteorite and a few decades behind in experience, it's not that surprising.
** However, given that he was weakened by the Meteorite and a few decades behind in experience, it's not that surprising.