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to whomever changed robert's name (I have never checked the history) back i do not know why since both the AA wiki and even some parts of the DGS pages here use Robert Crogley. Sorry if that comes off as rude.
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* NearVillainVictory: [[spoiler:Sort of. While he did get an undeserved Not Guilty verdict, he doesn't even get to enjoy it beyond the courthouse due to being shortly killed after by Rupert Chrogray.]]
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* NearVillainVictory: [[spoiler:Sort of. While he did get an undeserved Not Guilty verdict, he doesn't even get to enjoy it beyond the courthouse due to being shortly killed after by Rupert Chrogray.Robert Crogley.]]
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!!Egg Benedict / [[spoiler:Rupert Chrogray/Milverton]]
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* HeWhoFightsMonsters: Admits he became just as bad as [[spoiler:Megundal in his scheme to get revenge on him.]] Van Zeiks even paraphrases the [[TropeNamer trope-naming]] quote when he calls him out on this.
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* HeWhoFightsMonsters: Admits he became just as bad as [[spoiler:Megundal in his scheme to get revenge on him.]] Van Zeiks Zieks even paraphrases the [[TropeNamer trope-naming]] quote when he calls him out on this.
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* LoanShark: [[spoiler:What he actually is. It's implied that this is his motive for murdering Morta, though this is proven false later on.]]
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* LoanShark: [[spoiler:What he actually is. It's implied that this is his motive for murdering Morta, Mortar, though this is proven false later on.]]
* NearVillainVictory: [[spoiler:Sort of. While he did get an undeserved Not Guilty verdict, he doesn't even get to enjoy it beyond the courthouse due to being shortly killed after by Rupert Chrogray.]]
* NearVillainVictory: [[spoiler:Sort of. While he did get an undeserved Not Guilty verdict, he doesn't even get to enjoy it beyond the courthouse due to being shortly killed after by Rupert Chrogray.]]
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!!Egg Benedict / [[spoiler:Robert Crogley]]
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!!Egg Benedict / [[spoiler:Robert Crogley]][[spoiler:Rupert Chrogray/Milverton]]
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* TheAce: Case 5's Juror #5 is one of his fangirls and shows him as this in his line of work.
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* TheAce: Case 5's Juror #5 is one of his fangirls co-workers and shows him as this in his line of work.
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* FreudianExcuse: He was born in the slums, a life of poverty that he deeply resented. This gave him an unhealthy obsession to hoard money to cope with that miserable childhood. Even after managing to make a respectable and well-paid career as a telecommunicator, he couldn't let go his desire of amassing more money, which led him to [[spoiler:accept Megundal's deal and steal secret information from the British government.]]
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* FreudianExcuse: He was born in the slums, a life of poverty that he deeply resented. This gave him an unhealthy obsession to hoard for hoarding money to cope with that his miserable childhood. Even after managing to make achieve a respectable and well-paid career as a telecommunicator, telecommunicator by his own, he couldn't let go his desire of amassing more money, which led him to [[spoiler:accept Megundal's deal and steal secret information from the British government.]]
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* {{Determinator}}: To give readers an idea, it's almost like if [[VisualNovel/AceAttorneyInvestigationsMilesEdgeworth Quercus Alba]] made it to the eitness stand.
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* {{Determinator}}: To give readers an idea, it's almost like if [[VisualNovel/AceAttorneyInvestigationsMilesEdgeworth Quercus Alba]] made it to the eitness witness stand.
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** [[[spoiler:It's also hinted at in his real name, Crogley, as it's a romanized portmenteau of ''kuro''-grey (black-grey).]]
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** [[[spoiler:It's [[spoiler:It's also hinted at in his real name, surname, Crogley, as it's a romanized portmenteau of ''kuro''-grey (black-grey).]]
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!!Grimesby Roylott
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!!Grimesby RoylottRoylott / [[spoiler:Nikomina Borshevic]]
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!!Egg Benedict [[spoiler: Rupert Chrogray]]
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!!Egg Benedict [[spoiler: Rupert Chrogray]]/ [[spoiler:Robert Crogley]]
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* {{Determinator}}: He gives [[AceAttorneyInvestigationsMilesEdgeworth Alba]] a run for his money in sheer tenacity.
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* {{Determinator}}: He gives [[AceAttorneyInvestigationsMilesEdgeworth To give readers an idea, it's almost like if [[VisualNovel/AceAttorneyInvestigationsMilesEdgeworth Quercus Alba]] a run for his money in sheer tenacity.made it to the eitness stand.
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* ImprobableWeaponUser: [[spoiler:Used his fountain pen to conceal and carry poison to later spike a drink with it.]]
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* ChekhovsGunman: [[spoiler:When "disappearing bullets" are brought up, he recalls an earlier incident where someone was seemingly shot, but the medics were unable to find any bullets despite there being a very prominent wound. Turns out it was actually a shrapnel explosion from the bullet hitting some ice near the victim. The same thing happened with Sherlock where the third bullet hit his vial satchel and he was wounded from the compounds exploding.]]
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* {{Red Herring}}: Downplayed, [[spoiler: he was the one who planned the murder however he didn't directly kill Meningen.]]
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* {{Red Herring}}: Downplayed, [[spoiler: he was the one who planned the murder however he didn't directly kill Meningen.]]Meningen and he was unaware of how he actually died]]
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* Red Herring: Downplayed [[spoiler: he was the one who planned the murder, however he didn't directly kill Meningen.]]
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* Red Herring: Downplayed {{Red Herring}}: Downplayed, [[spoiler: he was the one who planned the murder, murder however he didn't directly kill Meningen.]]
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Enoch Drebber - Red herring
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* {{Leitmotif}}: Has three: ''London'' usually plays whenever you talk to him in case 4, [[spoiler:as a standalone theme, "The Great Detective's Friendship", used in the reveal of him being Holmes' partner, and - together with Sherlock - "Partners ~ The game is afoot!", the main theme of DGS 2, used both in the reveal that he's Holmes' partner, and during the Joint Reasoning segment in the Barabrook.]]
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* {{Leitmotif}}: Has three: ''London'' usually plays whenever you talk to him in case 4, 4 of the second game, [[spoiler:as a standalone theme, "The Great Detective's Friendship", used in the reveal of him being Holmes' partner, and - together with Sherlock - "Partners ~ The game is afoot!", the main theme of DGS 2, used both in the reveal that he's Holmes' partner, and during the Joint Reasoning segment in the Barabrook.]]
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* ButtMonkey: He might honestly be one of the biggest ones in the series, while he's never accused of murder, his life in Britain was completely miserable as almost everyone made fun of him and barely anyone respected him due to him being a Japanese. This culminated in him almost never leaving his lodgings, however just staying home didn't stop the fact that [[spoiler: he was accused of two instances of manslaughter and witnessed one murder.]]
That's not all though, [[spoiler: every night he felt that someone was trying to strangle him, later on this was revealed to be Pretency who was blowing in gasoline-induced asphyxiation into his room in an attempt to make Soseki leave his room, so he could have his hands on Selden's treasure.]]
[[spoiler: Pretency previously did this exact same plan against Duncan Ross, Soseki's life was at stake every night.]]
That's not all though, [[spoiler: every night he felt that someone was trying to strangle him, later on this was revealed to be Pretency who was blowing in gasoline-induced asphyxiation into his room in an attempt to make Soseki leave his room, so he could have his hands on Selden's treasure.]]
[[spoiler: Pretency previously did this exact same plan against Duncan Ross, Soseki's life was at stake every night.]]
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* Butt Monkey: He might honestly be one of the biggest ones in the series, while he's never accused of murder, his life in Britain was completely miserable as almost everyone made fun of him and barely anyone respected him due to him being a Japanese.
This culminated in him almost never leaving his lodgings, however just staying home didn't stop the fact that [[spoiler: he was accused of two instances of manslaughter and witnessed one murder.]]
That's not all though, [[spoiler: every night he felt that someone was trying to strangle him, later on this was revealed to be Pretency who was blowing in gasoline-induced asphyxiation into his room in an attempt to make Soseki leave his room, so he could have his hands on Selden's treasure.]]
[[spoiler: Pretency previously did this exact same plan against Duncan Ross, Soseki's life was at stake every night.]]
This culminated in him almost never leaving his lodgings, however just staying home didn't stop the fact that [[spoiler: he was accused of two instances of manslaughter and witnessed one murder.]]
That's not all though, [[spoiler: every night he felt that someone was trying to strangle him, later on this was revealed to be Pretency who was blowing in gasoline-induced asphyxiation into his room in an attempt to make Soseki leave his room, so he could have his hands on Selden's treasure.]]
[[spoiler: Pretency previously did this exact same plan against Duncan Ross, Soseki's life was at stake every night.]]
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Butt Monkey - Souseki Natsume
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* Butt Monkey: He might honestly be one of the biggest ones in the series, while he's never accused of murder, his life in Britain was completely miserable as almost everyone made fun of him and barely anyone respected him due to him being a Japanese.
This culminated in him almost never leaving his lodgings, however just staying home didn't stop the fact that [[spoiler: he was accused of two instances of manslaughter and witnessed one murder.]]
That's not all though, [[spoiler: every night he felt that someone was trying to strangle him, later on this was revealed to be Pretency who was blowing in gasoline-induced asphyxiation into his room in an attempt to make Soseki leave his room, so he could have his hands on Selden's treasure.]]
[[spoiler: Pretency previously did this exact same plan against Duncan Ross, Soseki's life was at stake every night.]]
This culminated in him almost never leaving his lodgings, however just staying home didn't stop the fact that [[spoiler: he was accused of two instances of manslaughter and witnessed one murder.]]
That's not all though, [[spoiler: every night he felt that someone was trying to strangle him, later on this was revealed to be Pretency who was blowing in gasoline-induced asphyxiation into his room in an attempt to make Soseki leave his room, so he could have his hands on Selden's treasure.]]
[[spoiler: Pretency previously did this exact same plan against Duncan Ross, Soseki's life was at stake every night.]]
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* {{Leitmotif}}: Has two: [[spoiler:As three: ''London'' usually plays whenever you talk to him in case 4, [[spoiler:as a standalone theme, "The Great Detective's Friendship", used in the reveal of him being Holmes' partner, and - together with Sherlock - "Partners ~ The game is afoot!", the main theme of DGS 2, used both in the reveal that he's Holmes' partner, and during the Joint Reasoning segment in the Barabrook.]]
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* {{Expy}}: The mustaches, size difference (in height and width) and red and green color schemes all point to them being [[Franchise/SuperMarioBros Mario and Luigi]], but as burglars instead of plumbers.
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* {{Expy}}: The mustaches, size difference (in height and width) and red and green color schemes all point to them being [[Franchise/SuperMarioBros Mario and Luigi]], but as burglars instead of plumbers. They also resemble [[VideoGame/ProfessorLaytonAndTheAzranLegacy Robin and Macaw]] as fat and skinny henchmen to the {{Big Bad}}.
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* Of Dzibilchaltunchucnchucmil, being a short witness who pesters people about his name.
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* Expy: Of Dzibilchaltunchucnchucmil, Dzibilchaltunchucnchucmil from Professor Layton vs Phoenix Wright, being a short witness who pesters people about his name.
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* Demoted to Extra: While he had a large role in the first game as a witness to the murder in case 3 and as a juror in case 4, in the second game he only returns once as a juror in the second case (which is a flashback case that takes place during the first game.)
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* Demoted to Extra: DemotedtoExtra: While he had a large role in the first game as a witness to the murder in case 3 and as a juror in case 4, in the second game he only returns once as a juror in the second case (which is a flashback case that takes place during the first game.)
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* Demoted to Extra: While he had a large role in the first game as a witness to the murder in case 3 and as a juror in case 4, in the second game he only returns once as a bailiff in the second case (which is a flashback case that takes place during the first game.)
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* Demoted to Extra: While he had a large role in the first game as a witness to the murder in case 3 and as a juror in case 4, in the second game he only returns once as a bailiff juror in the second case (which is a flashback case that takes place during the first game.)
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Witnesses and miscellaneous characters that appear in the spinoff ''VisualNovel/DaiGyakutenSaibanNaruhodouRyuunosukeNoBouken'' series. [[Characters/AceAttorney Here]] is the main character sheet.
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Witnesses and miscellaneous characters that appear in the spinoff ''VisualNovel/DaiGyakutenSaibanNaruhodouRyuunosukeNoBouken'' ''[[VisualNovel/DaiGyakutenSaibanNaruhodouRyuunosukeNoBouken Dai Gyakuten Saiban]]'' series. [[Characters/AceAttorney Here]] is the main character sheet.
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!Debuted in ''[[VisualNovel/DaiGyakutenSaibanNaruhodouRyuunosukeNoBouken Dai Gyakuten Saiban]]''
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!Debuted in ''[[VisualNovel/DaiGyakutenSaibanNaruhodouRyuunosukeNoBouken Dai Gyakuten Saiban]]''
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!Debuted in ''VisualNovel/DaiGyakutenSaibanNaruhodouRyuunosukeNoBouken''
''[[VisualNovel/DaiGyakutenSaibanNaruhodouRyuunosukeNoBouken Dai Gyakuten Saiban]]''
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* CrazyPrepared: [[spoiler:Used curare, a poison that not only is totally unknown in Japan, but one that is only lethal by administering it through the bloodstream, and thus she (temporarily) disproves Ryuunosuke's theory by drinking the poisoned tonic water.]]
* EvilBrit: All these spoiler tags should make it pretty obvious. [[spoiler:This actually causes a lot of problems, as the Japanese government wants to avoid prosecuting her out of fear of hurting Japanese-British relations.]]
* EvilBrit: All these spoiler tags should make it pretty obvious. [[spoiler:This actually causes a lot of problems, as the Japanese government wants to avoid prosecuting her out of fear of hurting Japanese-British relations.]]
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* CrazyPrepared: [[spoiler:Used curare, a poison that not only is totally unknown in Japan, but one that is only lethal by administering it through the bloodstream, and thus she (temporarily) disproves Ryuunosuke's theory of her murdering Watson using poison by drinking the poisoned tonic water.water with no hesitation.]]
* EvilBrit: All these spoiler tags should make it prettyobvious. [[spoiler:This obvious that something's wrong with her. [[spoiler:Her being British and committing murder in Japan actually causes a lot of problems, as the Japanese government wants to outright avoid prosecuting her out of fear of hurting fragile Japanese-British relations.]]
* EvilBrit: All these spoiler tags should make it pretty
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* KarmaHoudini: Downplayed and eventually subverted. [[spoiler:After her guilt is revealed, the Japanese court is unable to persecute her for her crimes, due to the extradition treaty between Japan and England, but she is dropped off to British authorities in Shanghai with her fate after that unknown...until the sequel, where she is found dead in a beach house in the first case, a day before her scheduled deportation.]]
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* KarmaHoudini: Downplayed and eventually subverted. [[spoiler:After her guilt is revealed, the Japanese court is unable to persecute her for her crimes, due to the extradition treaty between Japan and England, but she is dropped off to British authorities in Shanghai with her fate after that unknown... until the sequel, where she is found dead in a beach house in the first case, a day before her scheduled deportation.]]
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* PoliticallyIncorrectVillain: Very racist towards the Japanese. Downplayed, as [[DeliberateValuesDissonance this would have been fairly normal at the time]] the game is set, as British values tended towards the WhiteMansBurden.
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* PoliticallyIncorrectVillain: Very racist towards the Japanese. Downplayed, as [[DeliberateValuesDissonance this would have been fairly normal at the time]] the game is set, as British values tended towards to considering the WhiteMansBurden.WhiteMansBurden as valid.
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* TheUnintelligible: Downplayed. Her 'English' is rendered as unreadable doctor's cursive, and Hosonaga has to translate for her. Justified, as she is in a Japanese court. Some of her cursive text are intelligible English words like "Oh", or "What". [[spoiler: She eventually drops her façade and speaks Japanese.]]
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* TheUnintelligible: Downplayed. Her 'English' dialogue is rendered as unreadable [[TheIllegible doctor's cursive, cursive]], and Hosonaga has to translate for her. Justified, as she is an English speaker in a Japanese court. Some of her cursive text are is intelligible English words like "Oh", or "What". [[spoiler: She eventually drops her "monolingual British foreigner" façade and speaks Japanese.Japanese, revealing herself to be fluently bilingual.]]
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* CompositeCharacter: Of Birdly and [[spoiler: Richard Wellington.]] He has an appearance similar to the former and is very theatrical, while he [[spoiler: puts up a front of elegance, but is revealed to be a violent crook, like the latter.]]
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* CompositeCharacter: Of Birdly and [[spoiler: Richard Wellington.]] He has an appearance and theatricality similar to the former and is very theatrical, former, while he [[spoiler: puts up a front of elegance, but is revealed to be a violent crook, like the latter.]]
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* YesMan: Downplayed. Due to the wife of his boss being ''right there'', he repeatedly sings the praises of the company to impress her.
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* WomanScorned: [[spoiler:Her attempted revenge for the death of Duncan Ross.]]
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* IronicDeath: [[spoiler:Her drink was spiked with a very unique poison, and she was stabbed in an attempt to hide her true cause of death. Just like how she slipped curare into John Watson's drink, and then shot his dead body to frame Ryunosuke Naruhodo.]]