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* ThoseTwoGuys: They have similar names and constantly appear together.
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* EvilUncle: Tells Stannis to have Edric Storm burned, even though his mother is Axell's niece.

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* EvilUncle: Tells Stannis to have Edric Storm burned, even though his mother is Axell's niece.niece which makes Edric his great-nephew.
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* PassedOverPromotion: Cersei Lannister objected to him joining the Kingsguard.

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* PassedOverPromotion: Cersei Lannister objected to him joining the Kingsguard.Kingsguard, a decision which even Stannis agrees with due to his excessive bloodlust.
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* TheyJustDontGetIt: He tries, bless him, but Jon Snow can't convince them that Val isn't a "wildling princess" and that [[AltarDiplomacy marrying one of Stannis' men to her]] would mean absolutely nothing to the wildlings, who choose their leaders based on [[AsskickingEqualsAuthority strength, charisma, and cunning,]] not lineage.

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* TheyJustDontGetIt: He tries, bless him, but Jon Snow can't convince them that Val isn't a "wildling princess" and that [[AltarDiplomacy marrying one of Stannis' men to her]] would mean absolutely nothing to the wildlings, who choose their leaders based on [[AsskickingEqualsAuthority [[AsskickingLeadsToLeadership strength, charisma, and cunning,]] not lineage.

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* KillEmAll: His solution to Lord Ardrian Celtigar bending the knee to Joffrey after being captured at the Battle of Blackwater Bay is to sail to Celtigar's holdings on Claw Island and kill everyone there, including the smallfolk. Stannis and Davos dismiss the plan as too brutal and cowardly, with Stannis adding it would accomplish nothing anyway and even calling the plan "evil".


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* LeaveNoSurvivors: His solution to Lord Ardrian Celtigar bending the knee to Joffrey after being captured at the Battle of Blackwater Bay is to sail to Celtigar's holdings on Claw Island and kill everyone there, including the smallfolk. Stannis and Davos dismiss the plan as too brutal and cowardly, with Stannis adding it would accomplish nothing anyway and even calling the plan "evil".

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* MirrorCharacter: To Davos Seaworth — both men were recruited into Stannis' army from the gutters of Flea Bottom and have some kind of "dirty" skill as their greatest asset. Davos is loyal, honest, kind and valued by Stannis for his honest counsel (and smuggling skills), while Clayton is only kept around for his brutality and usefulness as a TortureTechnician. Davos also strives to climb the ranks in spite of his lowborn birth, becoming a King’s Hand and learning to read and write, while Clayton is content to stay a ser as long as he has a steady supply of victims. And, in spite of those marked differences, both men are very brave when it comes to facing danger.



* FreudianSlip: While bemoaning the winter snows and refuting all plans for a siege of Winterfell, he accidentally cries out "Gods be good," over which Richard Horpe points out and questions him.

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* FreudianSlip: While bemoaning the winter snows and refuting all plans for a siege of Winterfell, he accidentally cries out "Gods be good," good", over which Richard Horpe points out and questions him.



* OneDegreeOfSeparation: His relative Wallace Massey is the squire of Ser Denys Mallister, but they never get to meet since Wallace remains on the Shadow Tower and Justin marches southwards.



* JerkAss: Insults Jon Snow's courage.

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* JerkAss: IronicName: Named 'Sweet' but he's far from it.
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Insults Jon Snow's courage.courage.
* NoNameGiven: Only referred to by his family name.



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[[folder:Ser Norbert Grandison]]Narbert Grandison]]
!!Ser Narbert Grandison


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* MyNaymeIs: Narbert instead of Norbert.


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!!Ser Corliss Penny
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* {{Foil}}: To Davos Seaworth — both men were recruited into Stannis' army from the gutters of Flea Bottom and have some kind of "dirty" skill as their greatest asset. Davos is loyal, honest, kind and valued by Stannis for his honest counsel (and smuggling skills), while Clayton is only kept around for his brutality and usefulness as a TortureTechnician. Davos also strives to climb the ranks in spite of his lowborn birth, becoming a King’s Hand and learning to read and write, while Clayton is content to stay a ser as long as he has a steady supply of victims. And, in spite of those marked differences, both men are very brave when it comes to facing danger.
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* {{Foil}}: To Davos Seaworth — both men were recruited into Stannis' army from the gutters of Flea Bottom and have some kind of "dirty" skill as their greatest asset. Davos is loyal, honest, kind and valued by Stannis for his honest counsel (and smuggling skills), while Clayton is only kept around for his brutality and usefulness as a TortureTechnician. Davos also strives to climb the ranks in spite of his lowborn birth, becoming a King’s Hand and learning to read and write, while Clayton is content to stay a ser as long as he has a steady supply of victims. And, in spite of those marked differences, both men are very brave when it comes to facing danger.
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* PrivilegedRival: To Davos, who bought his knighthood with crates of onions and is looked down upon by his fellow lords for being an upjumped smuggler, while Ser Axell had the privilege of being highborn and everything that came with it.

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* PrivilegedRival: To Davos, who bought his knighthood with crates of onions and is looked down upon by his fellow lords for being an upjumped smuggler, while Ser Axell had the privilege of being highborn and everything that came with it. But Davos can give Stannis one thing that Axell can't -- [[HonestAdvisor honest counsel,]] which is exactly the kind of thing Stannis values and appreciates the most.
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* KickTheDog: One time at a feast, he told a story about a Targaryen princeling who dressed an ape in his late son's clothes, as a way to shame Davos for his lowborn birth.
-->'''Axell''': A wiser prince would have known that you cannot send an ape to do a man's work.
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--> ''Feel free to perish as you wish, Humfrey. Myself, I would sooner live to see another spring.''
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* FreudianSlip: While bemoaning the winter snows and refuting all plans for a siege of Winterfell, he accidentally cries out "Gods be good," over which Richard Horpe points out and questions him.
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* {{Jerkass}}: About as pleasant as an ardent worshipper of R'hllor can be, which is to say he helps burn people as human sacrifices without question and exhibits FantasticRacism against the northmen.

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* BitCharacter: There are more Queen's Men not listed here: Corliss Penny, Benetheon Scales, Lambert Whitewater, Perkin Follard, Dorden the Dour.

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* BitCharacter: There are more Queen's Men not listed here: Corliss Penny, Benetheon Scales, Lambert Whitewater, Perkin Follard, Dorden the Dour.


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A knight of House Penny sworn to Stannis.
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* FantasticRacism: Blames the northmen and their "demon trees" for the blizzard impeding the path to Winterfell.
* YourMom: As one man is about to be burned at the stake for cannibalism, he yells at Penny, "What sort of name is Penny? Is that how much your mother charged?"
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* TheyJustDontGetIt: Jon Snow can't convince them that Val isn't a "wildling princess" and that [[AltarDiplomacy marrying one of Stannis' men to her]] would mean absolutely nothing to the wildlings, who choose their leaders based on [[AsskickingEqualsAuthority strength, charisma, and cunning,]] not lineage.

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* TheyJustDontGetIt: He tries, bless him, but Jon Snow can't convince them that Val isn't a "wildling princess" and that [[AltarDiplomacy marrying one of Stannis' men to her]] would mean absolutely nothing to the wildlings, who choose their leaders based on [[AsskickingEqualsAuthority strength, charisma, and cunning,]] not lineage.
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* DoesThisRemindYouOfAnything: Their cry of “One realm, one god, one king” echoes almost exactly Roman Emperor Constantine’s declaration of “One empire, one God, one emperor”, as well as the Nazi slogan “One people, one empire, one leader”.
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* {{Seer}}: Claims he can see the future in fire. Melisandre implies to Davos that Axell is simply seeing what he wants to see, and is deluding himself.

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* {{Seer}}: {{Seers}}: Claims he can see the future in fire. Melisandre implies to Davos that Axell is simply seeing what he wants to see, and is deluding himself.

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