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* WhatHappenedToTheMouse: There's no mention of what became of her after the Maiden's Day Cattle Show.

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* WhatHappenedToTheMouse: There's no mention of what became of her after the Maiden's Day Cattle Show. Semi-canon sources indicate she'll marry Benjicot Blackwood.


* KnightInShiningArmor: He championed Ser Duncan against Prince Aerion during the Trial of the Seven in order to save Dunk from losing a foot and a hand for attacking Aerion in defense of a commoner. He even questioned Prince Baelor Breakspear about how chivalrous his pragmatic strategy against the Kingsguard was before the trial.

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* KnightInShiningArmor: He championed Ser Duncan against Prince Aerion during the Trial of the Seven in order to save Dunk from losing a foot and a hand for attacking Aerion in defense of a commoner. He even questioned Crown Prince Baelor Breakspear about how chivalrous his pragmatic strategy against the Kingsguard was before the trial.


* BloodKnight: Rogar always claimed to have regretted not being able to personally fight Maegor the Cruel.



* DragonInChief: As Jaehaerys was still a young teenager when he laid claim to the Iron Throne, Rogar was named Protector of the Realm, the topmost military commander of the Seven Kingdoms.#
* EasilyForgiven: Zig-xagged. While Jaehaerys did forgive Rogar and welcome him back to court, he also made it plain he wouldn't hesitate to unleash Vermithor on the Stormlands if Rogar crossed him again.
* GracefulLoser: When his plot to usurp Jaehaerys' reign in favor of Aerea was discovered and foiled, Rogar rather calmly accepted that he was finished and resigned himself to whatever punishment the king had in store for him. Luckily, Jaehaerys spared him and the two reconciled, restoring their friendship. Rogar even went on to become his stepfather.

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* DragonInChief: As Jaehaerys was still a young teenager when he laid claim to the Iron Throne, Rogar was named Protector of the Realm, the topmost military commander of the Seven Kingdoms.#
Kingdoms.
* EasilyForgiven: Zig-xagged. Zig-zagged. While Jaehaerys did forgive Rogar and welcome him back to court, he the young king also made it plain he wouldn't hesitate to unleash Vermithor on the Stormlands if Rogar crossed him again.
* GracefulLoser: When his plot to usurp Jaehaerys' reign in favor of Aerea was discovered and foiled, Rogar rather calmly accepted that he was finished and resigned himself to whatever punishment (either execution or banishment to the Wall) the king had in store for him. Luckily, Jaehaerys spared him and the two reconciled, restoring their friendship. Rogar even went on to become his stepfather.



* TheMourningAfter: He never remarried after his wife Alyssa died, though this may have been to do with the fact the grieving Rhaena threatened to turn Storm's End into a second Harrenhal if she found out he'd even considered taking another wife.

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* TheMourningAfter: He never remarried after his wife Alyssa died, though this may have been to do with the fact the her grieving daughter Rhaena (who blamed him for her mother's death) threatened to [[KillItWithFire turn Storm's End into a second Harrenhal Harrenhal]] if she found out he'd even considered taking another wife.



* NoSell: What happened to his efforts to force Jaehaerys's Kingsguard to stand down from trying to stop him seperating Jaehaerys and Alysanne; when his men moved to seperate the royal couple, Gyles Morrigen stepped forward and vowed anyone who tried would die. When Rogar ordered them to stand down, Sour Sam retorted that they were sworn to obey Jaehaerys, not his Hand. When Rogar finally threatened that he had the Kingsguard outnumbered and could easily have his men kill them, Ser Pate the Woodcock just replied if it came to that, Rogar would be the first to die.
-->'''Gyles Morrigen''': Come no closer. Any man who lays a hand on our King and Queen will die today.

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* NoSell: What happened to his efforts to force Jaehaerys's Kingsguard to stand down from trying to stop him seperating separating Jaehaerys and Alysanne; when his men moved to seperate separate the royal couple, Gyles Morrigen stepped forward and vowed anyone who tried would die. When Rogar ordered them to stand down, Sour Sam retorted that they were sworn to obey Jaehaerys, not his Hand. When Rogar finally threatened that he had the Kingsguard outnumbered and could easily have his men kill them, Ser Pate the Woodcock just replied if it came to that, Rogar would be the first to die.
-->'''Gyles Morrigen''': [[YouShallNotPass Come no closer. Any man who lays a hand on our King and Queen will die today.today]].



-->'''Ser Pate''': They might kill us, but you will be the first to die, m'lord, you have my word upon that.

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-->'''Ser Pate''': [[BadassBoast They might kill us, but you will be the first to die, m'lord, you have my word upon that.that]].


* DragonInChief: As Jaehaerys was still a young teenager when he laid claim to the Iron Throne, Rogar was named Protector of the Realm, the topmost military commander of the Seven Kingdoms.

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* DragonInChief: As Jaehaerys was still a young teenager when he laid claim to the Iron Throne, Rogar was named Protector of the Realm, the topmost military commander of the Seven Kingdoms.#
* EasilyForgiven: Zig-xagged. While Jaehaerys did forgive Rogar and welcome him back to court, he also made it plain he wouldn't hesitate to unleash Vermithor on the Stormlands if Rogar crossed him again.


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* TheMourningAfter: He never remarried after his wife Alyssa died, though this may have been to do with the fact the grieving Rhaena threatened to turn Storm's End into a second Harrenhal if she found out he'd even considered taking another wife.


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* NoSell: What happened to his efforts to force Jaehaerys's Kingsguard to stand down from trying to stop him seperating Jaehaerys and Alysanne; when his men moved to seperate the royal couple, Gyles Morrigen stepped forward and vowed anyone who tried would die. When Rogar ordered them to stand down, Sour Sam retorted that they were sworn to obey Jaehaerys, not his Hand. When Rogar finally threatened that he had the Kingsguard outnumbered and could easily have his men kill them, Ser Pate the Woodcock just replied if it came to that, Rogar would be the first to die.
-->'''Gyles Morrigen''': Come no closer. Any man who lays a hand on our King and Queen will die today.
-->'''Rogar Baratheon''': Sheath your steel and move aside. Have you forgotten? I am the King's Hand!
-->'''Sour Sam''': [[ShutUpHannibal Aye, but we're the Kingsguard, not the Hand's guard, and it's the lad who sits the chair, not you]].
-->'''Rogar Baratheon''': You are seven. I have half a hundred swords behind me. A word from me and they will cut you to pieces.
-->'''Ser Pate''': They might kill us, but you will be the first to die, m'lord, you have my word upon that.


* IHaveYouNowMyPretty: Averted with Princess Argella. When she was handed over to him bounded and naked, he didn't lay an hand on her and treated her with respect. Eventually, they married in what was generally considered a PerfectlyArrangedMarriage.

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* IHaveYouNowMyPretty: Averted with Princess Argella. When she was handed over to him bounded and naked, he didn't lay an a hand on her and treated her with respect. Eventually, they married in what was generally considered a PerfectlyArrangedMarriage.


* KnightInShiningArmor: He championed Ser Duncan against Prince Aerion during the Trial of the Seven in order to save Dunk from losing a foot and a hand for attacking Aerion in defence of a commoner.

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* KnightInShiningArmor: He championed Ser Duncan against Prince Aerion during the Trial of the Seven in order to save Dunk from losing a foot and a hand for attacking Aerion in defence defense of a commoner.commoner. He even questioned Prince Baelor Breakspear about how chivalrous his pragmatic strategy against the Kingsguard was before the trial.


* {{Foil}}: To Daemon Blackfyre. Both charismatic figures who are backed to usurp the throne despite incredibly weak claims (in Daemon's case, being a bastard and though legitimized still younger then his trueborn brother, in Renly's being the youngest brother), both make enemies of their own blood in doing so, [[spoiler: both ultimately killed by said blood in a fairly underhanded manner, [[HistoricalHeroUpgrade and both considered good kings who never were by their supporters.]]]] Daemon however, was considered an excellent warrior and an otherwise genuine KnightInShiningArmor despite his Rebellion, while Renly likely never fought for real outside of jousts and the like. [[spoiler: And while Bloodraven utterly loathed the Blackfyres and had zero regrets putting them in the ground, Stannis ends up regretting Renly's demise, and is haunted by whatever culpability he had in his assassination.]]

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* {{Foil}}: To Daemon Blackfyre. Both charismatic figures who are backed to usurp the throne despite incredibly weak claims (in Daemon's case, being a bastard and though legitimized still younger then his trueborn brother, in Renly's being the youngest brother), both make enemies of their own blood in doing so, [[spoiler: both ultimately killed by said blood in a fairly underhanded manner, [[HistoricalHeroUpgrade and both considered good kings who never were by their supporters.]]]] Daemon however, was considered an excellent warrior and an otherwise genuine KnightInShiningArmor despite his Rebellion, while Renly likely never fought for real outside of jousts and the like.like and is quite a SleazyPolitician at heart. [[spoiler: And while Bloodraven utterly loathed the Blackfyres and had zero regrets putting them in the ground, Stannis ends up regretting Renly's demise, and is haunted by whatever culpability he had in his assassination.]]


* KickTheDog: He mocked his niece Shireen's appearance [[note]] Though the insult was mostly aimed at Stannis and Shireen was simply a by-blow, as was his later mockery of both Shireen and Selyse [[/note]] and he mocked Brienne behind her back, even when he made her a Kingsguard because he sees the value in her loyalty. Later during his negotiations with Stannis he repeats the rumor that Patchface is Shireen's father, knowing that it will annoy his brother. Most notably, he chooses to cut off food to King's Landing rather than simply march up and demands its surrender immediately,[[note]]Even if the garrison was insane enough to refuse when outnumbered nearly fifty to one, it was shown that Stannis was capable of routing the defenders in ''hours'' using only ''part'' of the force that Renly had at his disposal, and that was when King's Landing's garrison was four times larger.[[/note]] resulting in thousands of unnecessary deaths for no real reason.

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* KickTheDog: He mocked his niece Shireen's appearance [[note]] Though the insult was mostly aimed at Stannis and Shireen was simply a by-blow, as was his later mockery of both Shireen and Selyse [[/note]] and he mocked Brienne behind her back, even when he made her a Kingsguard because he sees saw the value in her loyalty. Later during his negotiations with Stannis he repeats the rumor that Patchface is Shireen's father, knowing that it will annoy his brother. Most notably, he chooses to cut off food to King's Landing rather than simply march up and demands its surrender immediately,[[note]]Even if the garrison was insane enough to refuse when outnumbered nearly fifty to one, it was shown that Stannis was capable of routing the defenders in ''hours'' using only ''part'' of the force that Renly had at his disposal, and that was when King's Landing's garrison was four times larger.[[/note]] resulting in thousands of unnecessary deaths for no real reason.


* KickTheDog: He mocked his niece Shireen's appearance[[note]] Though the insult was mostly aimed at Stannis and Shireen was simply a by-blow, as was his later mockery of both Shireen and Selyse [[/note]]and he mocked Brienne behind her back, even when he made her a Kingsguard because he sees
the value in her loyalty. Later during his negotiations with Stannis he repeats the rumor that Patchface is Shireen's father, knowing that it will annoy his brother. Most notably, he chooses to cut off food to King's Landing rather than simply march up and demands its surrender immediately,[[note]]Even if the garrison was insane enough to refuse when outnumbered nearly fifty to one, it was shown that Stannis was capable of routing the defenders in ''hours'' using only ''part'' of the force that Renly had at his disposal, and that was when King's Landing's garrison was four times larger.[[/note]] resulting in thousands of unnecessary deaths for no real reason.

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* KickTheDog: He mocked his niece Shireen's appearance[[note]] appearance [[note]] Though the insult was mostly aimed at Stannis and Shireen was simply a by-blow, as was his later mockery of both Shireen and Selyse [[/note]]and [[/note]] and he mocked Brienne behind her back, even when he made her a Kingsguard because he sees
sees the value in her loyalty. Later during his negotiations with Stannis he repeats the rumor that Patchface is Shireen's father, knowing that it will annoy his brother. Most notably, he chooses to cut off food to King's Landing rather than simply march up and demands its surrender immediately,[[note]]Even if the garrison was insane enough to refuse when outnumbered nearly fifty to one, it was shown that Stannis was capable of routing the defenders in ''hours'' using only ''part'' of the force that Renly had at his disposal, and that was when King's Landing's garrison was four times larger.[[/note]] resulting in thousands of unnecessary deaths for no real reason.


* KickTheDog: He mocked his niece Shireen's appearance [[note]] Though the insult was mostly aimed at Stannis and Shireen was simply a by-blow, as was his later mockery of both Shireen and Selyse [[/note]] and he mocked Brienne behind her back, even when he made her a Kingsguard because he sees

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* KickTheDog: He mocked his niece Shireen's appearance [[note]] appearance[[note]] Though the insult was mostly aimed at Stannis and Shireen was simply a by-blow, as was his later mockery of both Shireen and Selyse [[/note]] and [[/note]]and he mocked Brienne behind her back, even when he made her a Kingsguard because he sees



* NiceToTheWaiter: One of his better qualities and reasons for his in-universe popularity. Although he was [[BitchInSheepsClothing a lot less nice behind peoples' backs.]]

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* NiceToTheWaiter: One of his better qualities and reasons for his in-universe popularity. Although he was [[BitchInSheepsClothing a lot less nice behind peoples' backs.]]


* FreudianExcuse: His parents died when he was only an infant, not to mention the trauma he most likely sustained while nearly starving in Storm's End for a year as a child.

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* FreudianExcuse: His parents died when he was only an infant, infant and his brothers abandoned him, not to mention the trauma he most likely sustained while nearly starving in Storm's End for a year as a child.



* KickTheDog: He mocked his niece Shireen's appearance, [[note]] Though the insult was mostly aimed at Stannis and Shireen was simply a by-blow, as was his later mockery of both Shireen and Selyse [[/note]]even before coming into conflict with Stannis over the Iron Throne. And he mocked Brienne behind her back, even though he made her a Kingsguard because he sees she is loyal. Later during his negotiations with Stannis he repeats the rumor that Patchface is Shireen's father, knowing that it will annoy his brother. Most notably, he chooses to cut off food to King's Landing rather than simply march up and demands its surrender immediately,[[note]]Even if the garrison was insane enough to refuse when outnumbered nearly fifty to one, it was shown that Stannis was capable of routing the defenders in ''hours'' using only ''part'' of the force that Renly had at his disposal, and that was when King's Landing's garrison was four times larger.[[/note]] resulting in thousands of unnecessary deaths for no real reason.

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* KickTheDog: He mocked his niece Shireen's appearance, appearance [[note]] Though the insult was mostly aimed at Stannis and Shireen was simply a by-blow, as was his later mockery of both Shireen and Selyse [[/note]]even before coming into conflict with Stannis over the Iron Throne. And [[/note]] and he mocked Brienne behind her back, even though when he made her a Kingsguard because he sees she is loyal.sees
the value in her loyalty.
Later during his negotiations with Stannis he repeats the rumor that Patchface is Shireen's father, knowing that it will annoy his brother. Most notably, he chooses to cut off food to King's Landing rather than simply march up and demands its surrender immediately,[[note]]Even if the garrison was insane enough to refuse when outnumbered nearly fifty to one, it was shown that Stannis was capable of routing the defenders in ''hours'' using only ''part'' of the force that Renly had at his disposal, and that was when King's Landing's garrison was four times larger.[[/note]] resulting in thousands of unnecessary deaths for no real reason.


*** Subverted somewhat, as Renly ''does'' mock people to their face, as in the case of Stannis, Littlefinger or Joffrey, among others. He does not necessarily put on a facade of being kind or compassionate in public and indulges in cruel jokes, it's just that he's charming enough to get away with it.

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*** Subverted somewhat, as Renly ''does'' mock people to their face, as in the case of Stannis, Littlefinger or Joffrey, among others. He does not doesn't necessarily put on a facade of being kind or compassionate in public and still indulges in cruel jokes, it's just that he's charming and witty enough to get away with it.


* BitchInSheepsClothing: A charismatic charmer in public, a sleazy {{Jerkass}} in private.
Though Brienne considers him a kind and good man for his treatment of her, even letting her join his Rainbow Guard, Renly considered her "absurd". It's also possible Renly knew of Joffrey's illegitimacy, meaning that Stannis is Robert's rightful heir, but refuses to acknowledge its truth because Renly wants to be King.
*** Subverted somewhat, as Renly ''does'' mock people to their face,as in the case of Stannis, it's just that he's charming enough to get away with it.

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* BitchInSheepsClothing: A charismatic charmer in public, a sleazy {{Jerkass}} in private.
Though Brienne considers him a kind and good man for his treatment of her, even letting her join his Rainbow Guard, Renly considered her "absurd". It's also possible Renly knew of Joffrey's illegitimacy, meaning that Stannis is Robert's rightful heir, but refuses to acknowledge its truth because Renly wants to be King.
*** Subverted somewhat, as Renly ''does'' mock people to their face,as face, as in the case of Stannis, Littlefinger or Joffrey, among others. He does not necessarily put on a facade of being kind or compassionate in public and indulges in cruel jokes, it's just that he's charming enough to get away with it.


* NoHistoricalFiguresWereHarmed: Robert is based on Edward IV, Stannis on UsefulNotes/RichardIII with Renly as the possibld analogue to George, Duke of Clarence, a resentful, spoiled brother overshadowed and resentful of the prestige and reputation of his brothers, and finally rising in rebellion against the family by marrying into an enemy house, killed by his brother for his treachery, and who is later whitewashed and appropiated as a hero by the new regime.

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* NoHistoricalFiguresWereHarmed: Robert is based on Edward IV, Stannis on UsefulNotes/RichardIII with Renly as the possibld possible analogue to George, Duke of Clarence, a resentful, spoiled brother overshadowed and resentful of the prestige and reputation of his brothers, and finally rising in rebellion against the family by marrying into an enemy house, killed by his brother for his treachery, and who is later whitewashed and appropiated as a hero by the new regime.


*** Not necessarily true, as Renly does mock people to their face,as in the case of Stannis, it's just that he's charming enough to get away with it.



*** Subverted somewhat, as Renly ''does'' mock people to their face,as in the case of Stannis, it's just that he's charming enough to get away with it.



* CainAndAbel: Renly and his older brother Stannis are mortal enemies, though neither one is truly "good" or "evil". However Renly happily talks about killing his brother and shows no remorse at this, along with his desire to usurp the throne out of greed and vanity. [[spoiler:After his death Stannis is clearly upset, and it is ambiguous how much Stannis knew of his role in Renly's death.]]

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* CainAndAbel: Renly and his older brother Stannis are mortal enemies, though neither one is truly "good" or "evil". However Renly happily talks about killing his brother and shows while showing no remorse at this, remorse, along with his desire to usurp the throne out of greed and vanity. [[spoiler:After his death Stannis is clearly upset, and it is ambiguous how much Stannis knew of his role in Renly's death.]]

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