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* ''Franchise/TheFlash'':
** Before his return, Barry was characterised as a humble, academic, well-meaning and selfless man; a bit conservative in his Silver Age stories and something of a milquetoast protagonist compared to both his predecessor Jay Garrick and his successor ComicBook/WallyWest. But he was ''always'' shown to have been a good father figure to Wally. During his return, Barry is depicted as being more angsty and confused, eventually revealing that his history had been changed and his arch-enemy, Eobard Thawne, had somehow found a way to change the timeline in such a way that he could retcon Barry's previously happy childhood into an angsty one where his mom was killed and his dad was framed for it. Barry from this point on becomes ''obsessed'' with this aspect of his backstory, almost as much as Bruce Wayne is over his parents' deaths, resulting in Barry abusing time-travel himself to ''undo'' this mess, when Barry was previously established as being wise regarding time-travel, resulting in the ''ComicBook/{{Flashpoint}}'' event that ended up rebooting a lot of people out of existence. When Barry becomes aware of this years after the fact, he says he'll investigate... only to barely do anything about it when not prompted by other people, leading to the implication that he just doesn't care that much about the people whose lives were affected, which includes Wally, who lost his family due to Barry's actions. In fairness to Barry, the obsession with his mother's death was unwittingly caused by the Rogues when they tricked the Flash into breaking a mirror the original Mirror Master created which amplified his sense of failure.

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** Before his return, Barry was characterised as a humble, academic, well-meaning and selfless man; a bit conservative in his Silver Age stories and something of a milquetoast protagonist compared to both his predecessor Jay Garrick and his successor ComicBook/WallyWest.Wally West. But he was ''always'' shown to have been a good father figure to Wally. During his return, Barry is depicted as being more angsty and confused, eventually revealing that his history had been changed and his arch-enemy, Eobard Thawne, had somehow found a way to change the timeline in such a way that he could retcon Barry's previously happy childhood into an angsty one where his mom was killed and his dad was framed for it. Barry from this point on becomes ''obsessed'' with this aspect of his backstory, almost as much as Bruce Wayne is over his parents' deaths, resulting in Barry abusing time-travel himself to ''undo'' this mess, when Barry was previously established as being wise regarding time-travel, resulting in the ''ComicBook/{{Flashpoint}}'' ''ComicBook/{{Flashpoint|DCComics}}'' event that ended up rebooting a lot of people out of existence. When Barry becomes aware of this years after the fact, he says he'll investigate... only to barely do anything about it when not prompted by other people, leading to the implication that he just doesn't care that much about the people whose lives were affected, which includes Wally, who lost his family due to Barry's actions. In fairness to Barry, the obsession with his mother's death was unwittingly caused by the Rogues when they tricked the Flash into breaking a mirror the original Mirror Master created which amplified his sense of failure.
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* Comicbook/BoosterGold was originally a FishOutOfTemporalWater MrViceGuy who screwed up once in a while but learned from it. Booster eventually seemed to have permanent ownership of the IdiotBall and was the one who wanted to have fun all the time and was such a screw up that they coined the term "Boostered" after he accidentally sent the team to hell. ''ComicBook/InfiniteCrisis'' and ComicBook/{{52}} rerailed his character by establishing Booster as component hero and time-traveler who ''pretends'' to be a money grubbing {{Jerkass}} to keep hostile time-travelers from targeting him.

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* Comicbook/BoosterGold was originally a FishOutOfTemporalWater MrViceGuy who screwed up once in a while but learned from it. Booster eventually seemed to have permanent ownership of the IdiotBall and was the one who wanted to have fun all the time and was such a screw up that they coined the term "Boostered" after he accidentally sent the team to hell. ''ComicBook/InfiniteCrisis'' and ComicBook/{{52}} ''ComicBook/FiftyTwo'' rerailed his character by establishing Booster as component hero and time-traveler who ''pretends'' to be a money grubbing {{Jerkass}} to keep hostile time-travelers from targeting him.



** Before his return, Barry was characterised as a humble, academic, well-meaning and selfless man; a bit conservative in his Silver Age stories and something of a milquetoast protagonist compared to both his predecessor Jay Garrick and his successor ComicBook/WallyWest. But he was ''always'' shown to have been a good father figure to Wally. During his return, Barry is depicted as being more angsty and confused, eventually revealing that his history had been changed and his arch-enemy, Eobard Thawne, had somehow found a way to change the timeline in such a way that he could retcon Barry's previously happy childhood into an angsty one where his mom was killed and his dad was framed for it. Barry from this point on becomes ''obsessed'' with this aspect of his backstory, almost as much as Bruce Wayne is over his parents' deaths, resulting in Barry abusing time-travel himself to ''undo'' this mess, when Barry was previously established as being wise regarding time-travel, resulting in the ''ComicBook/{{Flashpoint}}'' event that ended up rebooting a lot of people out of existence. When Barry becomes aware of this years after the fact, he says he'll investigate... only to barely do anything about it when not prompted by other people, leading to the implication that he just doesn't care that much about the people whose lives were affected, which includes Wally, who lost his family due to Barry's actions. In fairness to Barry, the obsession with his mother's death was caused by the Rogues when they broke a mirror the original Mirror Master created which amplified his sense of failure.

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** Before his return, Barry was characterised as a humble, academic, well-meaning and selfless man; a bit conservative in his Silver Age stories and something of a milquetoast protagonist compared to both his predecessor Jay Garrick and his successor ComicBook/WallyWest. But he was ''always'' shown to have been a good father figure to Wally. During his return, Barry is depicted as being more angsty and confused, eventually revealing that his history had been changed and his arch-enemy, Eobard Thawne, had somehow found a way to change the timeline in such a way that he could retcon Barry's previously happy childhood into an angsty one where his mom was killed and his dad was framed for it. Barry from this point on becomes ''obsessed'' with this aspect of his backstory, almost as much as Bruce Wayne is over his parents' deaths, resulting in Barry abusing time-travel himself to ''undo'' this mess, when Barry was previously established as being wise regarding time-travel, resulting in the ''ComicBook/{{Flashpoint}}'' event that ended up rebooting a lot of people out of existence. When Barry becomes aware of this years after the fact, he says he'll investigate... only to barely do anything about it when not prompted by other people, leading to the implication that he just doesn't care that much about the people whose lives were affected, which includes Wally, who lost his family due to Barry's actions. In fairness to Barry, the obsession with his mother's death was unwittingly caused by the Rogues when they broke tricked the Flash into breaking a mirror the original Mirror Master created which amplified his sense of failure.



** ''ComicBook/InfiniteCrisis'' saw Superboy Prime move from one of the guys who saved all of reality to a KnightTemplar obsessed with finding the perfect Earth. Later stories moved him all the way into OmnicidalManiac territory as he crushes entire planets because he happens to think they're lame. Some saw this as derailment, others saw it as somewhat understandable, especially since he was painted as a tragic figure... then he started psychotically grinning during it and relishing in all the death he caused, before joining the authoritarian Sinestro Corps and then destroying whole planets in ''Countdown to Final Crisis'', and in ''Final Crisis'' itself, he had no motivation for anything beyond being a psychopath. He returned in ''Blackest Night'' and was seemingly regretful for everything he had done and wanted to atone (which itself could be seen as derailment)... before his appearance in ''Teen Titans'' reverted him to a supervillain maniac.

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** ''ComicBook/InfiniteCrisis'' saw Superboy Prime move from one of the guys who saved all of reality to a KnightTemplar obsessed with finding the perfect Earth. Later stories moved him all the way into OmnicidalManiac territory as he crushes entire planets because he happens to think they're lame. Some saw this as derailment, others saw it as somewhat understandable, especially since he was painted as a tragic figure... then he started psychotically grinning during it and relishing in all the death he caused, before joining the authoritarian Sinestro Corps and then destroying whole planets in ''Countdown to Final Crisis'', and in ''Final Crisis'' itself, he had no motivation for anything beyond being a psychopath. He returned in ''Blackest Night'' and was seemingly regretful for everything he had done and wanted to atone (which itself could be seen as derailment)... before his appearance in ''Teen Titans'' reverted him to a supervillain maniac. ''ComicBook/DarkNightsDeathMetal'' had Superboy Prime make a true HeelFaceTurn and pull a HeroicSacrifice to save the multiverse with him. He's then returned the past of Earth-Prime as a teenager with his own version of Krypto, giving him a second chance to truly become Superman.
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* Comicbook/BoosterGold was originally a FishOutOfTemporalWater MrViceGuy who screwed up once in a while but learned from it. Booster eventually seemed to have permanent ownership of the IdiotBall and was the one who wanted to have fun all the time and was such a screw up that they coined the term "Boostered" after he accidentally sent the team to hell.

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* Comicbook/BoosterGold was originally a FishOutOfTemporalWater MrViceGuy who screwed up once in a while but learned from it. Booster eventually seemed to have permanent ownership of the IdiotBall and was the one who wanted to have fun all the time and was such a screw up that they coined the term "Boostered" after he accidentally sent the team to hell. ''ComicBook/InfiniteCrisis'' and ComicBook/{{52}} rerailed his character by establishing Booster as component hero and time-traveler who ''pretends'' to be a money grubbing {{Jerkass}} to keep hostile time-travelers from targeting him.



** Before his return, Barry was characterised as a humble, academic, well-meaning and selfless man; a bit conservative in his Silver Age stories and something of a milquetoast protagonist compared to both his predecessor Jay Garrick and his successor ComicBook/WallyWest. But he was ''always'' shown to have been a good father figure to Wally. During his return, Barry is depicted as being more angsty and confused, eventually revealing that his history had been changed and his arch-enemy, Eobard Thawne, had somehow found a way to change the timeline in such a way that he could retcon Barry's previously happy childhood into an angsty one where his mom was killed and his dad was framed for it. Barry from this point on becomes ''obsessed'' with this aspect of his backstory, almost as much as Bruce Wayne is over his parents' deaths, resulting in Barry abusing time-travel himself to ''undo'' this mess, when Barry was previously established as being wise regarding time-travel, resulting in the ''ComicBook/{{Flashpoint}}'' event that ended up rebooting a lot of people out of existence. When Barry becomes aware of this years after the fact, he says he'll investigate... only to barely do anything about it when not prompted by other people, leading to the implication that he just doesn't care that much about the people whose lives were affected, which includes Wally, who lost his family due to Barry's actions.

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** Before his return, Barry was characterised as a humble, academic, well-meaning and selfless man; a bit conservative in his Silver Age stories and something of a milquetoast protagonist compared to both his predecessor Jay Garrick and his successor ComicBook/WallyWest. But he was ''always'' shown to have been a good father figure to Wally. During his return, Barry is depicted as being more angsty and confused, eventually revealing that his history had been changed and his arch-enemy, Eobard Thawne, had somehow found a way to change the timeline in such a way that he could retcon Barry's previously happy childhood into an angsty one where his mom was killed and his dad was framed for it. Barry from this point on becomes ''obsessed'' with this aspect of his backstory, almost as much as Bruce Wayne is over his parents' deaths, resulting in Barry abusing time-travel himself to ''undo'' this mess, when Barry was previously established as being wise regarding time-travel, resulting in the ''ComicBook/{{Flashpoint}}'' event that ended up rebooting a lot of people out of existence. When Barry becomes aware of this years after the fact, he says he'll investigate... only to barely do anything about it when not prompted by other people, leading to the implication that he just doesn't care that much about the people whose lives were affected, which includes Wally, who lost his family due to Barry's actions. In fairness to Barry, the obsession with his mother's death was caused by the Rogues when they broke a mirror the original Mirror Master created which amplified his sense of failure.
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* ''ComicBook/CountdownToFinalCrisis'' does this to ComicBook/MaryMarvel in a very annoying fashion. If not her character arc of accepting ComicBook/BlackAdam's powers, going a little nuts and joining up with ComicBook/{{Eclipso}} before learning the error of her ways and helping to rescue the Greek gods, then it certainly counts when she, after this long storyline of turning evil and being redeemed, '''joins up with [[BigBad Darkseid]] AGAIN!''' But, [[DarthWiki/SoBadItsHorrible it's Countdown.]] What did we expect?

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* ''ComicBook/CountdownToFinalCrisis'' does this to ComicBook/MaryMarvel in a very annoying fashion. If not her character arc of accepting ComicBook/BlackAdam's powers, going a little nuts and joining up with ComicBook/{{Eclipso}} before learning the error of her ways and helping to rescue the Greek gods, then it certainly counts when she, after this long storyline of turning evil and being redeemed, '''joins up with [[BigBad Darkseid]] AGAIN!''' But, [[DarthWiki/SoBadItsHorrible it's Countdown.]] Countdown. What did we expect?
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** On the opposite end, Beast Boy fans have become upset that after having received development in his own mini-series, he started on a gradual decay back to being the team goofball to the point where even his own best friend and younger team members were depicted as talking down to him and considering him to be a joke. The same Beast Boy who became ''team leader'' of the Titans and was considered capable (before executive meddling hit, combined with Geoff Johns deciding the team had "too many adults").

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** On the opposite end, Beast Boy ComicBook/BeastBoy fans have become upset that after having received development in his own mini-series, he started on a gradual decay back to being the team goofball to the point where even his own best friend and younger team members were depicted as talking down to him and considering him to be a joke. The same Beast Boy who became ''team leader'' of the Titans and was considered capable (before executive meddling hit, combined with Geoff Johns deciding the team had "too many adults").
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* Jesse Chambers, AKA Jesse Quick, of ''Franchise/TheFlash''. Wally West's occasional partner and DistaffCounterpart, she joined the ComicBook/{{Titans}}. Initially Jesse was presented as a strong female lead, a natural leader who quickly found her place in the team as the go-to second in command, as well as developing a strong dynamic with Dick Grayson and Donna Troy. Writer changes however led to Jesse being completely re-characterised, becoming impulsive, abrasive, and an 'outsider' among the team, which was ''best'' shown in a storyline where she had an affair with her mother's fiance, because he was the only person showing her any interest while she was desperately alone. With the book ultimately messing her character up so much, she got depowered in the Flash book so that she could jump to the ''ComicBook/JusticeSocietyOfAmerica'' title and be revamped as 'Liberty Belle', following her mother's legacy instead of her dad's, as well as off-panel getting married to Hourman II. This, surprisingly, wasn't a ''bad'' thing, as this led to Jesse acknowledging just how much her time with the Titans was a ''disaster'', as well as having her step away from her dad's company and allowing her to be part of stuff more, and she found a much better home in the Justice Society, and later the Justice League. She even got massive character development to grow past her insecurities and regained her super-speed, and took back the Jesse Quick identity to help rebuild the Flash Family.

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* Jesse Chambers, AKA Jesse Quick, of ''Franchise/TheFlash''. Wally West's occasional partner and DistaffCounterpart, she joined the ComicBook/{{Titans}}.ComicBook/Titans1999. Initially Jesse was presented as a strong female lead, a natural leader who quickly found her place in the team as the go-to second in command, as well as developing a strong dynamic with Dick Grayson and Donna Troy. Writer changes however led to Jesse being completely re-characterised, becoming impulsive, abrasive, and an 'outsider' among the team, which was ''best'' shown in a storyline where she had an affair with her mother's fiance, because he was the only person showing her any interest while she was desperately alone. With the book ultimately messing her character up so much, she got depowered in the Flash book so that she could jump to the ''ComicBook/JusticeSocietyOfAmerica'' title and be revamped as 'Liberty Belle', following her mother's legacy instead of her dad's, as well as off-panel getting married to Hourman II. This, surprisingly, wasn't a ''bad'' thing, as this led to Jesse acknowledging just how much her time with the Titans was a ''disaster'', as well as having her step away from her dad's company and allowing her to be part of stuff more, and she found a much better home in the Justice Society, and later the Justice League. She even got massive character development to grow past her insecurities and regained her super-speed, and took back the Jesse Quick identity to help rebuild the Flash Family.
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** ComicBook/{{Superboy|1994}} (Kon-El/Conner Kent) suddenly had CloningBlues when he joined the Teen Titans, and generally being a too-serious jackass when before he even made jokes about his clone status and was well-known for his slacker 90s attitude.

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** ComicBook/{{Superboy|1994}} (Kon-El/Conner Kent) suddenly had CloningBlues CloneAngst when he joined the Teen Titans, and generally being a too-serious jackass when before he even made jokes about his clone status and was well-known for his slacker 90s attitude.
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** [=NuWally=] sort of gets a moment too, when his [[ParentalIssues Daddy Issues]] seemingly encompass his entire character. When Slade is lost in the Speed Force, [=NuWally=] is angry that the Titans and Teen Titans are celebrating, even though they know they can't rescue him and he's more than a bit of an amoral asshole (indeed, the Rebirth series has "Deathstroke is a git that ruins things for his family and is not someone you should admire" as a main theme). [=NuWally=] decides to run into the Speed Force to save Slade. That [=NuWally=] is so adamant on this and values Slade's life so much is more than a bit of a stretch, as he made his dislike of his former CoolUncle, Daniel West, very clear once he learned that Daniel was the villainous Reverse-Flash. And Daniel was ''his uncle'' he admired who killed about five people, while Slade is some random guy he spent an afternoon with who has killed, as he made explicitly clear to [=NuWally=], ''hundreds''. The kid caring about this guy is just... forced.

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** [=NuWally=] sort of gets a moment too, when his [[ParentalIssues Daddy Issues]] seemingly encompass his entire character. When Slade is lost in the Speed Force, [=NuWally=] is angry that the Titans and Teen Titans are celebrating, even though they know they can't rescue him and he's more than a bit of an amoral asshole (indeed, the Rebirth series has "Deathstroke is a git that ruins things for his family and is not someone you should admire" as a main theme). [=NuWally=] decides to run into the Speed Force to save Slade. That [=NuWally=] is so adamant on this and values Slade's life so much is more than a bit of a stretch, as he made his dislike of his former CoolUncle, Daniel West, very clear once he learned that Daniel was the villainous Reverse-Flash. And Daniel was ''his uncle'' he admired who killed about five people, while Slade is some random guy he spent an afternoon with who has killed, as he made explicitly clear to [=NuWally=], ''hundreds''. The kid caring about this guy is just... forced.forced.
* ''ComicBook/JLAActOfGod'' has a ton of this, in addition to all the other things it gets wrong.
** Superman and Wonder Woman can both go here because they both get derailed in more-or-less the same way. They both turn into miserable, self-pitying sadsacks when they lose their powers, in spite of that flying in the face of all previous characterization. They also totally buy into the idea that them losing their powers was a punishment for their "arrogance" in spite of thw fact that they are two fo the most humble heroes in the entire DCU (Superman works as a reporter specificaly because his powers don;t offer him any real advantage over his peers, and Wonder Woman once worked at a fast-food restaraunt without ever seeing the work as beneath her).
** Lois Lane also gets this, having broken up with Clark because he no longer has his Superpowers, even though by this point she had gained a massive amount of appreciation for Clark as a person, regardless of his powers. This is mostly done for the sake of getting Superman and Wonder woman together.
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** This was a slow process with Franchise/{{Batman}}. From the mid-nineties until early 2006, the cool, gruff, badass, [[MemeticMutation Goddamned]] Batman slowly moved from [[AloofBigBrother "aloof and driven"]] to [[{{Jerkass}} "frickin' jerk"]]. DC eventually fixed this by having him realize how he was acting, and go on a year-long trip around the world with [[ComicBook/{{Nightwing}} Dick Grayson]] (the first Robin) and [[ComicBook/https://fraserhealth.secureform.caTim Drake]] (the then current Robin). This was merely a later incarnation of a storyline that's been recurring since the early 90s. Batman would become more aloof than ever before due to some sort of crisis, only to eventually realize that he should be nice to his friends and swear that he would never go down that road again - until next time (See "Prodigal," "Comicbook/BatmanNoMansLand," "Comicbook/BruceWayneFugitive"). The only difference between this storyline and its precursors is that writers seem determined to ''stick to it'' for a change, especially Creator/GrantMorrison. Unfortunately, Batman is still a JerkAss to this day (not just in the main comic continuity, but also in other incarnations too), so despite their best efforts, Batman’s characterisation as an asshole is still very much present.

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** This was a slow process with Franchise/{{Batman}}. From the mid-nineties until early 2006, the cool, gruff, badass, [[MemeticMutation Goddamned]] Batman slowly moved from [[AloofBigBrother "aloof and driven"]] to [[{{Jerkass}} "frickin' jerk"]]. DC eventually fixed this by having him realize how he was acting, and go on a year-long trip around the world with [[ComicBook/{{Nightwing}} Dick Grayson]] (the first Robin) and [[ComicBook/https://fraserhealth.secureform.caTim [[ComicBook/{{Red Robin}} Tim Drake]] (the then current Robin). This was merely a later incarnation of a storyline that's been recurring since the early 90s. Batman would become more aloof than ever before due to some sort of crisis, only to eventually realize that he should be nice to his friends and swear that he would never go down that road again - until next time (See "Prodigal," "Comicbook/BatmanNoMansLand," "Comicbook/BruceWayneFugitive"). The only difference between this storyline and its precursors is that writers seem determined to ''stick to it'' for a change, especially Creator/GrantMorrison. Unfortunately, Batman is still a JerkAss to this day (not just in the main comic continuity, but also in other incarnations too), so despite their best efforts, Batman’s characterisation as an asshole is still very much present.
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** This was a slow process with Franchise/{{Batman}}. From the mid-nineties until early 2006, the cool, gruff, badass, [[MemeticMutation Goddamned]] Batman slowly moved from [[AloofBigBrother "aloof and driven"]] to [[{{Jerkass}} "frickin' jerk"]]. DC eventually fixed this by having him realize how he was acting, and go on a year-long trip around the world with [[ComicBook/{{Nightwing}} Dick Grayson]] (the first Robin) and [[ComicBook/RobinSeries Tim Drake]] (the then current Robin). This was merely a later incarnation of a storyline that's been recurring since the early 90s. Batman would become more aloof than ever before due to some sort of crisis, only to eventually realize that he should be nice to his friends and swear that he would never go down that road again - until next time (See "Prodigal," "Comicbook/BatmanNoMansLand," "Comicbook/BruceWayneFugitive"). The only difference between this storyline and its precursors is that writers seem determined to ''stick to it'' for a change, especially Creator/GrantMorrison. Unfortunately, Batman is still a JerkAss to this day (not just in the main comic continuity, but also in other incarnations too), so despite their best efforts, Batman’s characterisation as an asshole is still very much present.

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** This was a slow process with Franchise/{{Batman}}. From the mid-nineties until early 2006, the cool, gruff, badass, [[MemeticMutation Goddamned]] Batman slowly moved from [[AloofBigBrother "aloof and driven"]] to [[{{Jerkass}} "frickin' jerk"]]. DC eventually fixed this by having him realize how he was acting, and go on a year-long trip around the world with [[ComicBook/{{Nightwing}} Dick Grayson]] (the first Robin) and [[ComicBook/RobinSeries Tim [[ComicBook/https://fraserhealth.secureform.caTim Drake]] (the then current Robin). This was merely a later incarnation of a storyline that's been recurring since the early 90s. Batman would become more aloof than ever before due to some sort of crisis, only to eventually realize that he should be nice to his friends and swear that he would never go down that road again - until next time (See "Prodigal," "Comicbook/BatmanNoMansLand," "Comicbook/BruceWayneFugitive"). The only difference between this storyline and its precursors is that writers seem determined to ''stick to it'' for a change, especially Creator/GrantMorrison. Unfortunately, Batman is still a JerkAss to this day (not just in the main comic continuity, but also in other incarnations too), so despite their best efforts, Batman’s characterisation as an asshole is still very much present.
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** ''ComicBook/TheNextBatmanSecondSon'' subjected this to Lucius Fox. Lucius, who'd previously been written as an HonestCorporateExecutive and one of the few characters Bruce Wayne could trust, got retconned into an absentee father who used an ArmyOfLawyers to [[spoiler:help his son Jace avoid jail time for a hit-and-run by digging up dirt on the man Jace accidentally killed]]. In the present, Lucius is starting to show fascist tendencies by helping Gotham become the PoliceState it's shown to be in ''ComicBook/DCFutureState''. While he did go through Joker Toxin exposure during ''ComicBook/TheJokerWar'', which could maybe help explain the second part, the first has no such rationale behind it. Naturally, some fans aren't happy about this change.

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** ''ComicBook/TheNextBatmanSecondSon'' subjected this to Lucius Fox. Lucius, who'd previously been written as an HonestCorporateExecutive and one of the few characters Bruce Wayne could trust, got retconned into an absentee father who used an ArmyOfLawyers to [[spoiler:help his son Jace avoid jail time for a hit-and-run by digging up dirt on the man Jace accidentally killed]]. In the present, Lucius is starting to show fascist tendencies by helping Gotham become the PoliceState it's shown to be in ''ComicBook/DCFutureState''. While he did go through Joker Toxin exposure and his family suffered during ''ComicBook/TheJokerWar'', which could maybe help explain the second part, the first has no such rationale behind it. Naturally, some fans aren't happy about this change.
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* The ''ComicBook/AmazonsAttack'' miniseries afflicts the entire Amazon people with this. Queen Hippolyta becomes a murderous misandrist who has no problem starting a war ''just'' to start a war and the Amazons have no problem with this for the most part and kill civilians left and right, including ''children''. This is a very far cry from the loving culture they have been presented as, going from "loving women who are well-trained in combat" to "[[DoesNotLikeMen man-hating]] AxCrazy women".
* ''Franchise/{{Batman}}'':
** This was a slow process with Franchise/{{Batman}}. From the mid-nineties until early 2006, the cool, gruff, badass, [[MemeticMutation Goddamned]] Batman slowly moved from [[AloofBigBrother "aloof and driven"]] to [[{{Jerkass}} "frickin' jerk"]]. DC eventually fixed this by having him realize how he was acting, and go on a year-long trip around the world with [[ComicBook/{{Nightwing}} Dick Grayson]] (the first Robin) and [[ComicBook/RobinSeries Tim Drake]] (the then current Robin). This was merely a later incarnation of a storyline that's been recurring since the early 90s. Batman would become more aloof than ever before due to some sort of crisis, only to eventually realize that he should be nice to his friends and swear that he would never go down that road again - until next time (See "Prodigal," "Comicbook/BatmanNoMansLand," "Comicbook/BruceWayneFugitive"). The only difference between this storyline and its precursors is that writers seem determined to ''stick to it'' for a change, especially Creator/GrantMorrison. Unfortunately, Batman is still a JerkAss to this day (not just in the main comic continuity, but also in other incarnations too), so despite their best efforts, Batman’s characterisation as an asshole is still very much present.
** Conversely, the switch of [[ComicBook/{{Batgirl 2000}} Batgirl II]]/Cassandra Cain from one of the better examples of Rising Above Her Past (raised from birth as an assassin, but horrified enough by her first kill to become a TechnicalPacifist) to a [[UnfortunateImplications Stereotypical]] [[EvilLaugh Cackling]] DragonLady [[ChessMaster Mastermind]] was abrupt enough to induce whiplash. Nerfing her enough for Robin to force a stalemate was simply adding injury to insult (she is acknowledged as one of the best fighters in the DCU while Tim is likely one of the worst in the Batfamily). The efforts to retcon the whole mess as {{brainwash|ed}}ing by ComicBook/{{Deathstroke}} came off as more than a bit slapdash, and did nothing to explain the improved language skills (what was once a virtually illiterate dyslexic who rarely spoke a sentence more than five words long without the use of pausing, was now {{Monologuing}} and knew Navajo code, one of the hardest languages in the world). The later miniseries about her derailed her character even more. Her improved language skills were taught (she learned to read English, and speak and read Navajo) by Alfred, off-screen and she became good with computers by herself. Her deep rooted refusal to kill anyone was removed in order for her to kill her dad and Deathstroke. Her reading of body language (which was used by her to know that Batman was Bruce Wayne) was nerfed in order to let an old man lie to her right in front of her face. And if that wasn't enough, her past was changed from loving her father but escaping from him because her first kill was the first time she saw someone die which made her realize how wrong her life was, into hating her father during her entire life and actually having to watch him kill people right in front of her eyes without her caring at all.
** The issue 0 regarding ComicBook/TheJoker's involvement in [[ComicBook/RedHood Jason]]'s life, from his becoming Robin to his death, literally everything was orchestrated by the Joker. The Joker has never, ''ever'' been able to pull off a plan that long-term (the closest would be his plan in ''ComicBook/DeathOfTheFamily'', and even ''that'' massively pushed it), and he certainly wouldn't have the patience to do so.
** The 2010 ''ComicBook/BatmanBeyond'' miniseries does this to almost every single character in varying degrees, from Terry forgetting he has a girlfriend and picking up the IdiotBall -- apparently losing about 3 years of experience in the process -- to Bruce suddenly deciding that Terry just isn't good enough anymore and constructing bat robots to replace him, when a big part of his thing in the original was him seeing Terry as a worthy successor.
** For a lot of the 2000s, Tim Drake (Robin III) was Batman Jr., without a trace of his DeadpanSnarker attitude, his geek hobbies, or the fact he does have a sense of humor. After Kon died in ''ComicBook/InfiniteCrisis'', Robin became a [[LonersAreFreaks total loner]] obsessed with [[HoYay/{{Batman}} bringing Superboy back to life at any cost.]] Then when Bruce Wayne died, he pretty much threw away any semblance of fun, even though, remember, he was the Robin people liked for being the most normal.
** ''ComicBook/TheNextBatmanSecondSon'' subjected this to Lucius Fox. Lucius, who'd previously been written as an HonestCorporateExecutive and one of the few characters Bruce Wayne could trust, got retconned into an absentee father who used an ArmyOfLawyers to [[spoiler:help his son Jace avoid jail time for a hit-and-run by digging up dirt on the man Jace accidentally killed]]. In the present, Lucius is starting to show fascist tendencies by helping Gotham become the PoliceState it's shown to be in ''ComicBook/DCFutureState''. While he did go through Joker Toxin exposure during ''ComicBook/TheJokerWar'', which could maybe help explain the second part, the first has no such rationale behind it. Naturally, some fans aren't happy about this change.
* ComicBook/BlackCanary (Dinah Lance), as written by Winick, changed into a SatelliteLoveInterest after years of being a confident, independent ActionGirl. It got worse under Andrew Kreisberg, with Dinah's nurturing hero-focused childhood amongst her JSA 'uncles' being {{retcon}}ned into a {{Wangst}}y life of ignorant normality until the day she accidentally permanently deafened a friend with her emerging superpower. In order to mirror her incompetent adult use of said superpower, wherein Kreisberg caused her to deafen an innocent bystander in a fight so he could give her a new supervillain.
* Comicbook/BlackLightning, under Judd Winick, went from being a TechnicalPacifist of such strong ethical fiber that he retired from superheroics when he thought he couldn't use his powers safely into a man who could easily strike down the corporate raider indirectly responsible for the death of his niece.
* Comicbook/BlueBeetle (Ted Kord) had JumpedAtTheCall and was basically Batman with a sense of humor. By the time of ''ComicBook/SuperBuddies'', Ted was now a IJustWantToBeNormal slacker who was letting himself go and was now the StraightMan. The Flanderization that took place before that was retconned into ObfuscatingStupidity. Beetle was killed in ''Countdown to ComicBook/InfiniteCrisis''.
* Comicbook/BoosterGold was originally a FishOutOfTemporalWater MrViceGuy who screwed up once in a while but learned from it. Booster eventually seemed to have permanent ownership of the IdiotBall and was the one who wanted to have fun all the time and was such a screw up that they coined the term "Boostered" after he accidentally sent the team to hell.
* ''ComicBook/CountdownToFinalCrisis'' does this to ComicBook/MaryMarvel in a very annoying fashion. If not her character arc of accepting ComicBook/BlackAdam's powers, going a little nuts and joining up with ComicBook/{{Eclipso}} before learning the error of her ways and helping to rescue the Greek gods, then it certainly counts when she, after this long storyline of turning evil and being redeemed, '''joins up with [[BigBad Darkseid]] AGAIN!''' But, [[DarthWiki/SoBadItsHorrible it's Countdown.]] What did we expect?
* David Reid. Introduced to the ComicBook/JusticeSocietyOfAmerica as the great-grandson of [[UsefulNotes/FranklinDRoosevelt FDR]], Reid joined the team as an earnest but dedicated rookie with a solid respect for the team of veteran superheroes. Then along comes Gog, who transforms Reid into Magog after his brief brush with death. The transformation influences Reid into acting brashly and recklessly, but once he sees what Gog's really about he turns on his master, even [[spoiler:severing Gog's head in the climax]]. In the aftermath, he apologizes to Alan Scott and is seen without his trademark eye scar, indicating he's earned a fresh start. So what happens after that? He's quickly [[{{Flanderization}} flanderized]] into a caricature of his ComicBook/KingdomCome counterpart in every appearance other than his brief miniseries and ultimately killed off by Maxwell Lord in a [[PanderingToTheBase really ugly death scene]].
* Many readers felt that Dr. Leslie Thompkins was derailed in the ''[[ComicBook/BatmanWarGames War Crimes]]'' storyline, when it was revealed that she had ''intentionally'' withheld care from Stephanie Brown, a.k.a. Spoiler (and one-time Robin) [[AesopCollateralDamage so that she would die]] in order to teach Franchise/{{Batman}} a lesson. Considering her previous saintly devotion to saving lives, to the point that she was shown to have nightmares about failing to save lives, this was a bit stupid and subsequent comics have [[CanonDiscontinuity quietly ignored it]], before it was retconned out completely.
* ''Franchise/TheFlash'':
** Before his return, Barry was characterised as a humble, academic, well-meaning and selfless man; a bit conservative in his Silver Age stories and something of a milquetoast protagonist compared to both his predecessor Jay Garrick and his successor ComicBook/WallyWest. But he was ''always'' shown to have been a good father figure to Wally. During his return, Barry is depicted as being more angsty and confused, eventually revealing that his history had been changed and his arch-enemy, Eobard Thawne, had somehow found a way to change the timeline in such a way that he could retcon Barry's previously happy childhood into an angsty one where his mom was killed and his dad was framed for it. Barry from this point on becomes ''obsessed'' with this aspect of his backstory, almost as much as Bruce Wayne is over his parents' deaths, resulting in Barry abusing time-travel himself to ''undo'' this mess, when Barry was previously established as being wise regarding time-travel, resulting in the ''ComicBook/{{Flashpoint}}'' event that ended up rebooting a lot of people out of existence. When Barry becomes aware of this years after the fact, he says he'll investigate... only to barely do anything about it when not prompted by other people, leading to the implication that he just doesn't care that much about the people whose lives were affected, which includes Wally, who lost his family due to Barry's actions.
** Captain Cold and the Rogues during the Rebirth era. Though not without history of being villainous, had at least ''recently'' been depicted as semi-heroic at times, to the point that they were briefly a HeroAntagonist group and Cold himself was on the Justice League. However, after being denied their 'last score', with Barry deciding firmly that he won't tolerate their anti-hero/anti-villain tendencies anymore, Captain Cold was transformed from a simple career criminal into a crimelord who brutally murders one of his own for wanting to go straight, even though he's never had a problem with people leaving the group before (unless they work for the police), before eventually graduating to taking over the city, murdering a cop-from-the-future who uses his tech as a hero and tossing his severed head at a captured and depowered Barry, ''all'' just to establish that he's as much of a cold-blooded monster as Gorilla Grodd and Eobard Thawne.
** Owen Mercer, the second Captain Boomerang, was never a completely good person. At his best, he reached JerkWithAHeartOfGold status. But he was ''trying'' to move away from the family legacy, and ''trying'' to do good, and won himself friends like ComicBook/{{Nightwing}} and ComicBook/{{Supergirl}} in the process, then vanished from the comics for a while. Then in ''ComicBook/BlackestNight'', he pops up as an unhinged psycho feeding children to his zombie father, and is promptly killed for it.
** Likewise, we have Hunter Zolomon, AKA Zoom. Before, Zoom was an anti-villain who after his life fell apart and he gained time-based super-speed, came to believe that his friend, the Flash (Wally West), hadn't faced enough tragedy in his life and it held him back as a hero. He was a twisted, disturbed man but with a genuine belief that he was helping Wally by making his life miserable. During Rebirth, he's brought back after a lengthy absence with the reveal that, off-panel, he had become friends with Eobard Thawne, the previous Reverse-Flash. Rather than this leading to some kind of team-up, Eobard was killed in a story that made Hunter, distraught at losing his friend, decide that he was right, the Flashes (Barry and Wally) ''were'' beyond 'helping' and so instead of making them miserable to make them better, he enacted a convoluted plan to trick them into breaking the "Force barrier" and allowing Hunter to access the 'other' Forces, declaring himself the ''true'' Flash, and became obsessed with killing off ''all'' the Flashes of the multiverse, and hoping to eventually take out Barry Allen (a character he had, until this storyline, ''no history with'').
** When he joined the ComicBook/TeenTitans, ComicBook/{{Impulse}} suddenly grew grim and studious (and became Kid Flash, abandoning every last trace of his fierce individuality) after Deathstroke kneecapped him and he was forced to endure painful surgery.
** Inertia (Thaddeus Thawne), Impulse's EvilTwin. Originally, he was a rebellious teenager who secretly resented Impulse for having something he never had: a family. In fact, that eventually drove him to abandon the people who were using him to try to make his own way in the world. Then he became a generically evil and sadistic version of Kid Flash who engineered his good counterpart's death. Finally, Johns decided to have the character take on the title "Kid Zoom", kill a child, and depower the actual Zoom. Of course, the end of the story showed that Thad's actions would have consequence, and he wound up dead as a result of pissing off the other Flash Rogues for his crimes.
** All of the Rogues got this to varying degrees when it was revealed that Barry Allen had, at some point, worked with the Top to [[BrainwashingForTheGreaterGood brainwash some of them into turning away from crime]]. While it's left ambiguous which Rogues he did this to, with it being established that at least Pied Piper went legit of his own will, the Rogues redeeming themselves was a natural part of their characters. After Barry's death, it made sense for the Rogues to reevaluate their life choices, especially since all of them were usually only in it for the money anyway. Suddenly, all but one of them did a massive 180 and were back to being criminals.
* Hank Hall in DC's ''ComicBook/HawkAndDove'' was an impulsive JerkWithAHeartOfGold in the Kesels' run, having been fleshed out significantly from the original Creator/SteveDitko incarnation and his appearances in the original ComicBook/TeenTitans. However, once the identity of Monarch was leaked as Captain Atom in an advance spoiler for DC's mini ''ComicBook/{{Armageddon 2001}}'' (though there had been foreshadowing that this was the case to begin with), editorial had to scramble and find a new character to be Monarch to retain the "surprise" ending. Unfortunately, they picked the one character that was blatantly shown NOT to be Monarch and a perplexing plot twist followed, derailing Hank into a murderous extremist and suddenly advanced enough in intelligence and powers to control time (with yet another villainous name change as Extant). He then lingered on until he was killed off in the pages of ''JSA'' [[spoiler: and then later [[BackFromTheDead brought back]] in ''ComicBook/BlackestNight'', though it remains to be seen how his characterization will fare]].
** Monarch actually managed to be the [[CharacterDerailment derailing]] of '''two''' superheroes. Years after ''Armageddon 2001'', ComicBook/CaptainAtom became Monarch anyway, and [[ComicBook/CountdownToFinalCrisis immediately descended]] into cartoonish, [[InvoluntaryBattleToTheDeath force-heroes-to-battle-to-the-death]] supervillainy. Like Hawk, he later received an AuthorsSavingThrow via EasyAmnesia and CanonDiscontinuity.
** The ''Kid Amazo'' storyline derails the whole Justice League. Flash jumps at the chance to kill a cyborg kid who hasn't done anything wrong yet, J'onn doesn't talk remotely like J'onn, the group as a whole is a bickering leaderless mess...
* ''ComicBook/GreenArrow'': Despite having moved on from a [[DarkAndTroubledPast troubled past]] which included alcoholism, rampant womanizing and generally irresponsible behavior and evolving into a loving, responsible father and boyfriend under Creator/KevinSmith's pen, Winick wrote Oliver Queen back into the clueless, womanizing, limousine-liberal stereotype many comic fans wrongly saw him as. It is also worth noting that -- despite Winick's portrayal of Queen as an unrepentant ladies' man -- Oliver Queen never cheated on long-term girlfriend Dinah Lance (aka The Black Canary) before Judd Winick started writing the character. He did father a child with DragonLady Shado, but that was the result of Shado raping him while he was drugged, and was actually shown to be very possessive of Black Canary and very devoted to the relationship. In Winick's first story arc, Oliver Queen had a one-night stand with the niece of fellow superhero Comicbook/BlackLightning and later tried to lie about the affair to Dinah Lance. Interestingly enough, the two had never been shown to have officially reestablished themselves as boyfriend/girlfriend until Winick chose to break them apart. Things got ''worse'' afterwards, including Ollie going [[DarkerAndEdgier off the rails]] about how useless nonlethal crimefighting is (despite having dealt with the whole killing thing decades earlier in what's probably his single most famous story and subsequent run).
* Jesse Chambers, AKA Jesse Quick, of ''Franchise/TheFlash''. Wally West's occasional partner and DistaffCounterpart, she joined the ComicBook/{{Titans}}. Initially Jesse was presented as a strong female lead, a natural leader who quickly found her place in the team as the go-to second in command, as well as developing a strong dynamic with Dick Grayson and Donna Troy. Writer changes however led to Jesse being completely re-characterised, becoming impulsive, abrasive, and an 'outsider' among the team, which was ''best'' shown in a storyline where she had an affair with her mother's fiance, because he was the only person showing her any interest while she was desperately alone. With the book ultimately messing her character up so much, she got depowered in the Flash book so that she could jump to the ''ComicBook/JusticeSocietyOfAmerica'' title and be revamped as 'Liberty Belle', following her mother's legacy instead of her dad's, as well as off-panel getting married to Hourman II. This, surprisingly, wasn't a ''bad'' thing, as this led to Jesse acknowledging just how much her time with the Titans was a ''disaster'', as well as having her step away from her dad's company and allowing her to be part of stuff more, and she found a much better home in the Justice Society, and later the Justice League. She even got massive character development to grow past her insecurities and regained her super-speed, and took back the Jesse Quick identity to help rebuild the Flash Family.
* Maxwell Lord was never the "nice guy" on the JLI. He was certainly a JerkWithAHeartOfGold but was it ever a question about the heart of gold part? No. He even thought and believed he was doing the right thing most of the time and showed genuine concern for his team, back when he headed off the group. He even got into an argument with ComicBook/MartianManhunter about how they needed to get "big guns" on the team to make sure no one would get offed. It's not like it was all dialogue; some of this was in thought bubbles. However, it was later "revealed" that he never believed in the JLI, was working to keep the team ineffectual all along and secretly hated metahumans and superheroes. Writer Creator/GeoffJohns actually admitted that he knew he derailed Max but didn't care because they needed a villain. The later official explanation for this is that Superboy-Prime's punching of the Source Wall retroactively influenced Max; while he was sincere before, during his many surgeries and procedures to become human, he gained a hatred of superheroes, presumably because the community at large was responsible for him being a cyborg in the first place. Later still, an issue of ''ComicBook/JusticeLeagueGenerationLost'' showed that Max only went off the deep end after Coast City (along with his mother) was destroyed by Mongul.
* ''ComicBook/PlasticMan''. Oh, God, Plastic Man. He starts off as a repentant [[TheAtoner former criminal]] who uses his secret identity to fight crime. Then turns overnight into an idiot. Then, Creator/PhilFoglio makes him [[TraumaCongaLine brain-damaged, suicidal, and under attack by the military.]] It's also hinted that he's an [[TheAlcoholic alcoholic.]] Then, in the early run on ''JLA,'' he's back to lighthearted dumb ass. But later, it turns out that [[WhenYouComingHomeDad he has a son he abandoned]] and was possibly [[AbusiveParents beaten]] [[SadClown by his dad]]. He then becomes (apparently) a CrouchingMoronHiddenBadass, then [[BreakTheCutie freaks out and leaves the league.]] All of which is deliberately written out and lampshaded by Kyle Baker when ''he'' turned him into a JerkassWoobie, then a Buttmonkey, ''in the same run.''
* ''Franchise/{{Superman}}'':
** In the ''ComicBook/TheDarkKnightStrikesAgain'' and ''ComicBook/AllStarBatmanAndRobinTheBoyWonder'', written by Creator/FrankMiller, Superman is displayed as DumbMuscle who sold out his morals and is completely incapable of thinking strategically like the [[CanonSue oh so perfect Batman]] and the story ends with him wanting to take over the world. This is at odds with how Superman was portrayed in Miller's ''ComicBook/TheDarkKnightReturns'', where Clark was smart, was able to fight toe-to-toe with Batman while holding back and who only worked with the government because the government was cracking down on superheroes and it was the only way to ''stay'' a superhero.
** ComicBook/LoisLane briefly got this under the pen of the much-loathed Chuck Austen. She was transformed into a shrew slamming Clark constantly with Austen "defending" it by listing numerous stories of Lois treating Clark like crap...from the Silver Age. Austen basically stated as fact that it was Superman Lois loved, not Clark, and she just "settled" into the marriage to be closer to Superman. It was soon clear Austen intended to break them up so Clark could go to this "true love" ComicBook/LanaLang who was painted as a near-saint (ignoring how she was married to Pete Ross and even ''had his child'' yet obviously wanting Clark back). Thankfully, once Austen was fired, the new writers corrected his damage with a brilliant bit of Ma Kent putting both women in their place, telling Lois to be more supportive and bluntly telling Lana "you had your chance and you lost it."
** Superman in the ComicBook/New52 went from being TheParagon to a hot-headed jerk; one of the reasons for the popularity of Dan Jurgens' ''ComicBook/SupermanLoisAndClark'' was the stark contrast between the original Superman and Lois and their New 52 counterparts.
** ''ComicBook/InfiniteCrisis'' saw Superboy Prime move from one of the guys who saved all of reality to a KnightTemplar obsessed with finding the perfect Earth. Later stories moved him all the way into OmnicidalManiac territory as he crushes entire planets because he happens to think they're lame. Some saw this as derailment, others saw it as somewhat understandable, especially since he was painted as a tragic figure... then he started psychotically grinning during it and relishing in all the death he caused, before joining the authoritarian Sinestro Corps and then destroying whole planets in ''Countdown to Final Crisis'', and in ''Final Crisis'' itself, he had no motivation for anything beyond being a psychopath. He returned in ''Blackest Night'' and was seemingly regretful for everything he had done and wanted to atone (which itself could be seen as derailment)... before his appearance in ''Teen Titans'' reverted him to a supervillain maniac.
** ComicBook/{{Superboy|1994}} (Kon-El/Conner Kent) suddenly had CloningBlues when he joined the Teen Titans, and generally being a too-serious jackass when before he even made jokes about his clone status and was well-known for his slacker 90s attitude.
* Franchise/WonderWoman. Fans of the intelligent Creator/GeorgePerez [[ComicBook/WonderWoman1987 reboot]] have dealt with a whole ''host'' of derailment. From working in a fast food restaurant to Mike Deodato's "[[http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_eWAgNd_cltA/SjnJEB-BiMI/AAAAAAAAAB8/cmHbi1CXFq0/s400/WonderWomanThong01.jpg Wonder Thong]]" costume to becoming a bounty hunter to Creator/JohnByrne trying to turn her into ComicBook/SheHulk / Babe by [[MostCommonSuperpower increasing the size of her breasts]] and giving her the standard "wimpy male sidekick" Byrne trademark. During all this, Julia and Vanessa Kapatelis were virtually PutOnABus. And then there was ''[[http://deadline.com/2010/06/dc-comics-decides-to-ruin-wonder-woman-50790/ this]]''. The cries of "RUINED Forever!" were so loud they never went through with it.
** Part of the problem is that Wonder Woman is supposed to be a superhero who is also the ideal woman. It's even part of her origin: when the Greek gods breathed life into her they gave her gifts that would make her the perfect woman; the superpowers and equipment came later. Problem is, every writer seems to have a different idea of what is the "ideal woman".
*** This may also overlap with ValuesDissonance; Wonder Woman was created in the 1940s, when ideas about the "ideal woman" were somewhat different than they are today.
*** Not to mention that Wonder Woman's creator, William Marston, was a femdom adherent and believed in the power of women to 'nourish and nurture through loving discipline' or something of the sort, so his 'ideal woman' had as little in common with general '40s conception of an 'ideal woman' as a modern conception of an 'ideal woman'. However, the way he wrote ''ComicBook/{{Wonder Woman|1942}}'', while still a product of its times ended up being far more progressive than many of the later writers, being wise and compassionate while still a powerful warrior not afraid of combat, making it closer to a modern concept than many later takes on the character.
** [[ComicBook/WonderGirl Cassie]] started out as a fairly androgynous geeky tomboy who was friendly and considerate and loved everything Wonder Woman stood for, she was the founder of a Wonder Woman fanclub for goodness sake. Then Geoff Johns decided she was a violent jerkass prone to temper tantrums who only cared about her boyfriend, and began acting cold towards her teammates. Her character has downgraded into a self-righteous, holier-than-thou IceQueen. Her fans despise his writing of her and it lasted for most of the 2000s and 2010s.
*** Sean [=McKeever seemed=] to have noticed Cassie's change, and attempted an AuthorsSavingThrow by blaming it on [[spoiler:accepting powers from Ares. This negated the powers Zeus gave her and would have [[FaceHeelTurn corrupted her completely]], were her will not strong enough to resist him. Instead, she just turned into a bitch]]. Although the following writers, especially Felicia Henderson, promptly derailed Cassie back into a raging shrew.
** When the second Aquagirl (Lorena) was introduced in the pages of Aquaman, she was a resourceful PluckyGirl with brains who learned to adapt fine to the ocean after she lost her entire family and all of her friends. Once she became a Titan? She became derailed into a horny and mouthy Latina stereotype, trying to play homewrecker to Blue Beetle and Traci 13, while serving little purpose other than to hit on boys, argue with [[TheScrappy Bombshell]], or get seethed at by a jealous Cassie.
** Some argue that Geoff Johns' changes to ComicBook/{{Raven}} have stained her character reputation irreparably. These include having her reborn as a teenage girl (after she spent time in limbo as a golden SpiritAdvisor) who only occasionally retained her original speech patterns and personality (while the rest of the time she had a snarky and broody attitude like her animated incarnation), hooking up with Beast Boy, and saddling her back with the position of being the DamselInDistress that the team must rescue. Later writers like Judd Winick only made these changes even more jarring.
** On the opposite end, Beast Boy fans have become upset that after having received development in his own mini-series, he started on a gradual decay back to being the team goofball to the point where even his own best friend and younger team members were depicted as talking down to him and considering him to be a joke. The same Beast Boy who became ''team leader'' of the Titans and was considered capable (before executive meddling hit, combined with Geoff Johns deciding the team had "too many adults").
* ''ComicBook/TheLazarusContract'' has quite a few moments where characters act wildly out of character just to propel the plot forward.
** Dick Grayson is suddenly acting like he did in ''The New Teen Titans'' and being all secretive about some nebulous deal he made with Deathstroke. When it's revealed, we learn that [[spoiler:he agreed to train Rose Wilson and instill some morals in her in exchange for Slade not killing the Teen Titans after Grant Wilson was killed]]. Why this was some deep dark secret he felt he needed to keep from the team is never explained, especially given that he ''hasn't'' acted this secretive for ''years''.
** Damian Wayne chewing out Kid Flash for trusting Deathstroke at one point. Forgiving that it was an accident, Damian of all characters ''knows'' how hard it is to live up to a heroic legacy, and how people just screw up sometimes. While he's arrogant, him [[spoiler: kicking Kid Flash off the Teen Titans]] is pretty extreme.
** Wally West at one point is chasing down Deathstroke, who has acquired super speed somehow on Wally's level. When they're stuck in BulletTime, Slade mentions that they're now on an even playing field, and Wally ''runs away''. As in he doesn't even get hit first, he runs away ''at the first sign that he isn't fast enough''. Forgetting that he also forgot about his ability to drain speed, Wally has never, ''ever'' been depicted as a DirtyCoward entirely reliant on his SuperSpeed, who flees at the first sign of trouble.
** [=NuWally=] sort of gets a moment too, when his [[ParentalIssues Daddy Issues]] seemingly encompass his entire character. When Slade is lost in the Speed Force, [=NuWally=] is angry that the Titans and Teen Titans are celebrating, even though they know they can't rescue him and he's more than a bit of an amoral asshole (indeed, the Rebirth series has "Deathstroke is a git that ruins things for his family and is not someone you should admire" as a main theme). [=NuWally=] decides to run into the Speed Force to save Slade. That [=NuWally=] is so adamant on this and values Slade's life so much is more than a bit of a stretch, as he made his dislike of his former CoolUncle, Daniel West, very clear once he learned that Daniel was the villainous Reverse-Flash. And Daniel was ''his uncle'' he admired who killed about five people, while Slade is some random guy he spent an afternoon with who has killed, as he made explicitly clear to [=NuWally=], ''hundreds''. The kid caring about this guy is just... forced.

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