History BrokenBase / VideoGames

* In ''WorldOfWarcraft'', the complaining of some Horde players reached epic proportions when Blood Elves were added to their race list. The rest just shrugged and said it'd be nice to have some [[IncrediblyLamePun new blood on their side]]. Unfortunately, on the RP servers, people still won't shut the freakin' hell up about this - regardless of the fact that not only did blood elves join the Horde as a playable race some four years ago, but RP servers tend to be almost 50% blood elves on any given server. At this point, regardless of which side of the argument you're on, it just gets ANNOYING.

*** As shown with ''SonicTheHedgehog4'' and ''SonicColors'', two games specifically designed to pander to old school fans, even the slightest mention that the game deviates from the original formula, for good or ill, or that it has a flaw, be it real or imaginary, major or minor, or even if Sonic doesn't have the "right" voice actor or ''eye color'' is enough to [[InternetBackdraft send fans into a whinefest]].
**** Calling it merely broken is [[{{Understatement}} doing the situation a massive disservice]]. [[http://gamebabble.wordpress.com/2010/02/22/sonic-and-the-worst-fandom-ever/ This essay]] attempts to explain the reasons behind it.

* Was SpaceChannel5 Part 2 HD a good idea? Or was it TooSoon due to Michael Jackson's death?

* ''{{Half-Life}} 2 Episodes'' - Are they an utter failure with how long it's taking to get each game, or are they worth the wait and the fans are just whiny and unappreciative of Portal, Left4Dead's sequel or TeamFortress2's free updates? Both, because it takes time to make a game, but the angry fans are justified in that the episodes are a failure since the idea of "Episodic Gameplay" is to not keep the people waiting 2 years for the next installment.

** Pretty much ''every'' update results in huge TheyChangedItNowItSucks flamewars. And don't forget the "everyone gets grenades/only Demoman gets grenades" people, the "cartoony style is awesome/cartoony style sucks rocks" people and the Team Fortress Classic TheyChangedItNowItSucks people who all but refuse to admit a sequel exists.

* ''Left4Dead'' fans have broken themselves once Valve announced a sequel stated to be released at the end of 2009, exactly one year after the first game was released. The fans are basically organized into camps of those who are excited over a sequel so soon, those who are pissed that Left4Dead didn't get anything like the post-release support that TeamFortress2 is ''still'' getting for free, and those who are wondering when {{Half-Life}} 2: Episode 3 is going to come out. The second camp even started a Steam group dedicated to boycotting Left 4 Dead 2, which gained more than 35,000 members and garnered some attention from places like IGN and The Escapist (of [[ZeroPunctuation Yahtzee]] fame).

* ''{{Pokemon}}''. Oh god, ''{{Pokemon}}''... You don't have to look hard at all to find a [[RuinedFOREVER generation]] [[TheyChangedItNowItSucks war]].
** [[ThisIsSparta THERE! ARE! 151! POKEMON!]]
** Or currently, over the new female character in the Gold and Silver remakes.
** The overlap between Pokemon fans and [[FurryFandom furries]] is causing a growing divide in itself.
** Super Smash Bros. Brawl caused a fairly nasty uproar for awhile between Pokemon fans over the cut of Mewtwo and his 'replacement' with Lucario. For several months after Brawl's release, Mewtwo fans and Lucario fans had an extended FlameWar. One side claimed that the replacement was 'concrete proof' of Lucario being 'superior' to Mewtwo, while the other side made remarks about Mewtwo's in game stats and movie powers. Plenty of rather violent and/or [[{{Squick}} squicky]] [[{{Hatedom}} hate art]] was created before everything calmed down.
** Pick a Pokemon sidegame. Any Pokemon sidegame, but especially any that was made after the 90s.

** The problem mainly stems from TheyChangedItNowItSucks, as well as completely unreasonable expectations by many of the players, who apparently believed changing the game at all would be a problem, even though it was well known that many of the characters were garbage and that the game engine did have issues. There was also grousing about removing or adding new characters, as many people had favorites who didn't make it in.

* Was SpaceChannel5 Part 2 HD is good idea? Or was it TooSoon due to Michael Jackson's death?

* Fans of ''DiddyKongRacing'' are divided over the original game vs. its DS remake. The remake brought numerous new things to the table, such as vehicle upgrades, more customization options, a new game mode, four new characters, and even a track maker. It even moved the Silver Coin Challenges out of the main game to the side, which, depending on how you look at things, could be good ''or'' bad.[[hottip:*:"ThatOneLevel" vs. "ChallengeGamer," basically.]] However, it also introduced a very disliked new quickstart system (which was a dealbreaker on its own for many people), awkward new controls for the hovercraft, and made battle games unplayable outside of multiplayer. Both versions have their fans, but never, ''ever'' ask which version is better.

** Calling it merely broken is [[{{Understatement}} doing the situation a massive disservice]]. The reasons why are way, way too many and complicated to list here. But the Sonic fandom is not merely broken. Oh no. It is ''shattered''. Obliterated. Splintered, to the point that it's considered to be liquidated.

** [[http://gamebabble.wordpress.com/2010/02/22/sonic-and-the-worst-fandom-ever/ This essay]] attempts to explain the reasons behind it.
-->Why is the Sonic Fandom a writhing, screaming, [[EldritchAbomination Lovecraftian nightmare]]?

** Calling it merely broken is [[{{Understatement}} doing the situation a massive disservice]]. The reasons why are way, way too many and complicated to list here. But the Sonic fandom is not merely broken. Oh no. It is ''shattered''.

* The ''{{Touhou}}'' series is [[LiesDamnedLiesAndStatistics one parts ZUN to nine parts fandom]] and is a major aversion for its size. A good deal of that fandom does music remixes, {{doujinshi}}, translation, AMV (both original and parody), almost more original art than any other anime series on the Internet, [[PowerLevels character vs. character]] debates, and the Shipping denomination of the series can only be described as polynomial. They're vaguely divided over the major unofficial animation of the series, the official [[NoPlotNoProblem with plot]] manga of the series, and each have their own favorite corner of Gensokyo's population. Regardless, you'd be hard pressed to find cause for a full civil war.

** The completely out-of-the-blue decision by Valve to Nerf the pyro all this time later. According to Robin Walker, it was done to "raise the skill ceiling" for the pyro and make unskilled play less rewarding. In reality, the "high-skill" buffs were made by making the compression blast's cooldown match the rocket launcher's, decreasing it's ammo cost, and also making all reflected projectiles mini-crits (which is arguably a nerf because sticky bombs don't change allegiances, making it GREAT at teamkilling/suicide), while the "making unskilled play less rewarding" was done by lowering ALL fire damage (from the max) by 20 percent and lowering afterburn duration by 40 PERCENT. For the flaregun, too. The Pyro's damage output was poor enough that a STATIONARY SPY, with the default revolver, could outfight him at point blank without having to go for a medkit. Valve responded to the public outcry by, wait for it...buffing the [[ScrappyWeapon Backburner.]] If there's one thing Valve loves, it's causing flamewars.
*** Note that the nerfs have largely been de-nerfed by now. Valve eventually added all afterburn back in, and added 10 percent back to the flamethrower...'s current damage. Ha ha, guys, very funny. (It was ninja-patched to 90% of the original damage later.)
** And now with the release of [=TF2=] for the Mac. We have the Earbuds. Which have pretty much immediately become a sequel to the whole Halo debacle.
*** The Earbuds were easily attainable by PC users running OSX on a virtual machine, so that kind of softened the blow.

* ''Left4Dead'' fans have broken themselves once Valve announced a sequel stated to be released at the end of 2009, exactly one year after the first game was released. The fans are basically organized into camps of those who are excited over a sequel so soon, those who are pissed that Left4Dead didn't get anything like the post-release support that TeamFortress2 is ''still'' getting for free, and those who are wondering when HalfLife2: Episode 3 is going to come out. The second camp even started a Steam group dedicated to boycotting Left 4 Dead 2, which gained more than 35,000 members and garnered some attention from places like IGN and The Escapist (of [[ZeroPunctuation Yahtzee]] fame).

* ''[[HalfLife Half-Life 2]]'' - did Valve ruin a classic, or did they produce the perfect spiritual successor?
** ''Half-Life 2 Episodes'' - Are they an utter failure with how long it's taking to get each game, or are they worth the wait and the fans are just whiny and unappreciative of Portal, Left4Dead's sequel or TeamFortress2's free updates? Both, because it takes time to make a game, but the angry fans are justified in that the episodes are a failure since the idea of "Episodic Gameplay" is to not keep the people waiting 2 years for the next installment. This has even been mentioned by [[ZeroPunctuation a specific critic]].
** Also, while it's generally agreed by people as a whole that Adrian Shephard was a cool protagonist and nice counterpart to Gordon Freeman, and many would like to bring him back in future installments (Valve has even stated that they're interested in maybe bringing Adrian back one day), the more pro Half-Life 2 forums (who generally like the Half-Life 2 series better than the Half-Life 1 series), go into massive fits of rage whenever Adrian's name is even casually mentioned on one of their forums, and many of the anti-Shephard fanboys generally now try to attempt to distance the Half-Life series from Opposing Force, saying it's not cannon, simply because of Shephard (and with no reason why they even hate Shephard in the first place), even though Valve has stated that the Gearbox expansions are cannon unless proven otherwise. People who are even only mildly casual fans of Opposing Force and Shephard generally get so many hate complaints that it's laughable, while more open forums generally have a more positive opinion on Shephard and Opposing Force.

*** As shown with ''SonicTheHedgehog4'' and, more recently, ''SonicColors'', two games specifically designed to pander to old school fans, even the slightest mention that the game deviates from the original formula, for good or ill, or that it has a flaw, be it real or imaginary, major or minor, or even if Sonic doesn't have the "right" voice actor or ''eye color'' is enough to [[InternetBackdraft send fans into a whinefest]].

*** As shown with ''SonicTheHedgehog4'' and, more recently, ''SonicColors'', two games specifically designed to pander to old school fans, even the slightest mention that the game deviates from the original formula, for good or ill, or that it has a flaw, be it real or imaginary, major or minor, or even if Sonic doesn't have the right voice actor or ''eye color'' is enough to [[InternetBackdraft send fans into a whinefest]].

* StarFox with [[TheChick Crystal]], love her or hate her. But her entry to the franchise has made seemingly responsible for the [[FranchiseKiller death]] of the StarFox Franchise

* StarFox with [[TheChick Crystal]], love her or hate her. But her entry to the franchise has made seemingly responsible for the [[FranchiseKiller death]] of the StarFox Franchise

*** People were also underwhelmed by the amount (or lack thereof) of B.O.W's. There were definitely a lot of divisions over El Gigante, some saying he was a [[LordOfTheRings LOTR]] reject. In fact most of the characters (except Krauser, and maybe luis) and plot, and even the setting are considered to be TheScrappy despite how good the actual game play is. Some have said the fan division is why the game undersold on the.

** The {{retcon}}s, CharacterDerailment and upcoming crossover with [[TheDCU DC Comics]] didn't help either.

*** People were also underwhelemed by the amount (or lack thereof) of B.O.W's. There were definitely a lot of divisions over El Gigante, some saying he was a [[LordOfTheRings LOTR]] reject. In fact most of the characters and plot (and even the setting) are considered to be TheScrappy despite how good the actual game play is. Some have said the fan division is why the game undersold on the Game Cube.
** ''Resident Evil 5'' has gotten a lot less of this since they are trying to bridge the gap between both fanbases, and return the game to serious horror rather than action movie.
*** A lot of the reviews seem to imply otherwise. One IGN reviewer went as far as saying it's not even a Resident Evil game, but an action game that has R.E.'s overreaching story arcs. But otherwise consider it a completely different game.

* ''Halo: Reach'' wasn't even out yet and there were already people upset that the leaked photos still looks aesthetically the same as the other Halo's, While other fans are ok with that. Although it could be argued that its absurd to believe that Bungie would change the art style of the games so drastically.
** Some are already saying it'll just be Halo 3.2, However Bungie said they would be making a different engine for the game.
** And even then there are some saying that the new trailer looks like they have [[RealIsBrown taken the bright colour out of the game]] trying to make it DarkerAndEdgier. Which is ironic considering the series has been accused of getting LighterAndSofter.
** People generally agree that the multiplayer is solid. But when it comes to the campaign people are vehemently split. Some don't like it for varying reasons, some for gameplay, others say TheyWastedAPerfectlyGoodPlot. It's mostly the latter though. Aparently it didn't live up to it's premise and wasn't as epic, dark, gritty and emotional as they thought it would be (some saying there was zero tension and dramatic weight in the game considering the circumstances). Also possibly due to the fact it contradicts the ExpandedUniverse. Then theres Noble Team itself, with most only liking Emill and maybe Kat, and Jorge.
*** Honestly almost every campaign after Halo:CE is polorizing.

* The inclusion of Male Idols in TheIdolmaster has provoked an extremely hostile reaction from many fans who hate Project Jupiter with a bloody H. The fact to make room for them they had to turn 4 previously playable idols to unplayable lead to a greater source of flames

*** As shown with ''SonicTheHedgehog4'' and, more recently, ''SonicColors'', two game specifically designed to pander to old school fans, even the slightest mention that the game deviates from the original formula, for good or ill, or that it has a flaw, be it real or imaginary, major or minor, or even if Sonic doesn't have the right voice actor or ''eye color'' is enough to [[InternetBackdraft send fans into a whinefest]].

*** It's gotten so bad that even if Sega manages to churn out a decent Sonic game, there's going to be at least one faction of the fanbase that won't believe it. As shown with ''SonicTheHedgehog4'' and, more recently, ''SonicColors'', even the slightest mention that the game deviates from the general formula, for good or ill, or that it has a flaw, be it real or imaginary, major or minor, or even if Sonic doesn't have the right voice actor or ''eye color'' is enough to [[InternetBackdraft send fans into a whinefest]].

* The fanmade prequel of ''{{Portal}}'' called ''Portal: Prelude'' has this. Not as bitter, as some other examples though. The main accusation of the fandom is this mod being too action-filled and "not faithful to the original Portal". This is stupid, as a mod doesn't HAVE to be faithful to the original to be good. The main defense of those who like the mod is all too often "Sorry that you are too n00b at Portal to play this game" which is even stupider, as it doesn't prove ''anything.''