History AssPull / Terminator

* ''Film/Terminator2JudgmentDay'' had established that Arnold's face belongs now to one of the most wanted criminals in the world, as the first T-800 massacred a police station while the second got into a new shootout with the police and was involved with the destruction of a technological company (and as shown in an scene in ''T2'', the police got closeups of the T-800's face the first time, meaning there was definitely enough material to keep a manhunt). And yet, in this film [[spoiler:Carl had been living for some time in Texas of all places, just three states away from where both incidents happened, and apparently having no problem to maintain a curtain business nor worry that he might get discovered some day (which would have certainly ruined his new family).]] As if it was not weird enough, the film shows that, unlike him, Sarah ''has'' become herself a wanted criminal in all of United States despite having comparatively lesser crimes and a much more anodine physique.

* As in ''Genisys'', the resistance against Legion having futuristic technology and huge resources, including IEM weaponry, thorium reactors, [[{{Cyborg}} augmentation tech]], and fancy Dragonfly aircrafts, is by itself a contradiction within ''Dark Fate'''s own timeline. The film implies the Judgement Day is imminent by showing that the 2020 versions of [[spoiler:Dani and Grace]] are already around the age they were when they met after the disaster, and it is well-established that Legion's takeover evidently left humanity crippled to the point that a random factory worker with some leadership skills was the maximum figure of authority the survivors could find. How did the new resistance developed into the well-equipped, professional-looking sci-fi army (still commanded by [[spoiler:Dani]]) seen in the 2042 flashbacks would [[SequelHook almost need an entire film itself to explain]], especially compared to the original duology's more realistic situation, where the resistance against Skynet never really progressed beyond scavenger state outside of the plasma rifles.

* The human resistance now having apparently resources to spare, with all of its members being healthy, well fed, with clearly high morale, and equipped with matching futuristic armors. Flashbacks from the first film showed that their ray guns (which were probably scavenged from destroyed machines) were the only fancy thing about them: their fighters were visibly emaciated, wearing dirty rags and looking like pauper Vietnam vets in their own time. While ''Salvation'' justified its own change with the events of ''T3'' resulting in part of the American military infraestructure being saved, there's no similar justification in ''Genisys''.

* Franchise wide, this film contains a change that '''nullifies the entire premise of ''Terminator''''': an extra T-1000 was sent from Connor's time to 1974, altering all the timeline, yet ''absolutely nothing changed'' in their own time as a consequence of this, with Reese only finding about it when he reached the past. The film even shows onscreen that the T-5000 is now reigning supreme in 2029 after having massacred the resistance when Kyle was gone, making explicit that the multiple changes in the past neither changed nor erased his timeline. According to this, had the first T-800 or the T-1000 managed to kill John, nothing would have happened to the time plane where the humans had defeated Skynet, which the T-3000 then confirms himself by openly stating he can freely eliminate John and Sarah without affecting his own existence.

* The T-1000 suddenly has the ability to leave pieces of itself behind to act as a tracking beacon for its targets—an ability that would have come in handy a few times in ''T2''. In older materials, it was even stated that doing this was impossible for the T-1000 because it could only track its components up to a few dozen meters, and Skynet specifically programmed it to prioritize maintaining full mass because even losing small pieces over time would gradually make the creature less effective.

* The T-800 states that his human part has at least a minor form of HealingFactor, and he accordingly acts as if he could regenerate anything with enough time given, as indicated by him nonchalantly sacrificing the flesh of an entire hand only to convince Dyson of his true nature. In the previous film, the first T-800 didn't demonstrate this ability: his human part effectively died due to comparatively smaller battle damage and started literally rotting away, which forced him to don a weak disguise in order not to immediately give it away that he was a cyber-zombie now.

* The film's breaking point is the T-5000, whose presence in the future changed all the timelines. However, he comes officially from an "unknown alternate timeline", eschewing any explanation of what event could have possibly generated a scenario where Skynet developed a nanotechnological-infecting Terminator incarnation for itself and reached the main timeline to change things up (particularly given that he also seems to know exactly the events of the main timeline, as the second T-1000 shows), if that actually explains all the TimeyWimeyBall. Similarly, who or what sent Pops to the past is never explained. Those mysteries might have been meant to be solved in the two sequels that were in the works before being flattened by ''Genesis'''s box failure, but there's not a hint that could make one guess how, unless it was by throwing at least one more AssPull to the mix.

* The human resistance now having apparently resources to spare, with all of its members being healthy, well fed, with clearly high moral, and equipped with matching futuristic armors. Flashbacks from the first film showed that their ray guns (which were probably scavenged from destroyed machines) were the only fancy thing about them: their fighters were visibly emaciated, wearing dirty rags and looking like pauper Vietnam vets in their own time. While ''Salvation'' justified its own change with the events of ''T3'' resulting in part of the American military infraestructure being saved, there's no similar justification in ''Genisys''.

* Praised as the film could be both seen as a sequel and as an independent movie, it is nonetheless true that the presence of the T-1000 is a departure from the story given in the previous. Reese explicitly stated that the Tech-Com had ''won'' in 2029, defeating Skynet and capturing its time displacement center, and that the first T-800 was sent back literally in the last minute as a desperate measure; nothing on this narrative hinted that Skynet still had time to send a T-1000 following back (or that something like the T-1000 existed in the first place), and in case it did, Connor and company could have potentially altered his plans to save Sarah from the first T-800, possibly sending Reese and the reprogrammed T-800 to the same period. It has been [[FanWank fan-wanked]] for decades that the events in ''Terminator'' altered the main timeline and created a different John Connor and a different Skynet instead of forming a StableTimeLoop (that is, that there was a first John Connor whose father was someone from his time instead of a time-travelling Reese), therefore altering too the circumstances of the 2029 victory, but nothing has ever been said officially about it.

* The T-1000 states that his human part has at least a minor form of HealingFactor, and he accordingly acts as if he could regenerate anything with enough time given, as indicated by him nonchalantly sacrificing the flesh of an entire hand only to convince Dyson of his true nature. In the previous film, the first T-800 didn't demonstrate this ability: his human part effectively died due to comparatively smaller battle damage and started literally rotting away, which forced him to don a weak disguise in order not to immediately give it away that he was a cyber-zombie now.

* Praised as the film could be both seen as a sequel and as an independent movie, it is nonetheless true that the presence of the T-1000 is a departure from the story given in the previous. Reese explicitly stated that the Tech-Com had ''won'' in 2029, defeating Skynet and capturing its time displacement center, and that the first T-800 was sent back literally in the last minute as a desperate measure; nothing on this narrative hinted that Skynet still had time to send a T-1000 following back (or that something like the T-1000 existed in the first place), and in case it did, Connor and company could have potentially altered his plans to save Sarah from the first T-800, possibly sending Reese and Uncle Bob to the same period. It has been [[FanWank fan-wanked]] for decades that the events in ''Terminator'' altered the main timeline and created a different John Connor and a different Skynet instead of forming a StableTimeLoop (that is, that there was a first John Connor whose father was someone from his time instead of a time-travelling Reese), therefore altering too the circumstances of the 2029 victory, but nothing has ever been said officially about it.
* Uncle Bob states that his human part has at least a minor form of HealingFactor, and he accordingly acts as if he could regenerate anything with enough time given, as indicated by him nonchalantly sacrificing the flesh of an entire hand only to convince Dyson of his true nature. In the previous film, the first T-800 didn't demonstrate this ability: his human part effectively died due to comparatively smaller battle damage and started literally rotting away, which forced him to don a weak disguise in order not to immediately give it away that he was a cyber-zombie now.
* The previous film had established dogs can sense the true nature of Terminator and go mad everytime one approaches. In this film, Enrique's dog doesn't even bat an eye in front of Uncle Bob, and no explanation is given about why. (Unlike a similar point in ''Dark Fate'', however, this AssPull is sufficiently small to be considered more of a production goof.)

* The films outright negates ''T2'''s established rule about fate and predestination, showing that, even after blowing Cyberdyne up and melting Uncle Bob, another Skynet rose anyways due to the Air Force buying Cyberdyne's patents, only in 2004 instead of 1997 and in a software form ironically much more difficult to defeat (and indeed, unlike the previous film, this Skynet had apparently ''not'' been even defeated by the time an Arnold was sent to the past). It's inevitable that fans see this not only as a mean-spirited copout on the previous films, but also as a gratuitous excuse to repeat the plot of ''T2''.

* The idea of [[spoiler:Skynet sending multiple Terminators to the past]] directly contradicts both the original film and ''T2'', where the first T-800 and the T-1000 were essentially Skynet's last resort to kill John Connor after its headquarters had been captured by the human resistance. In fact, this was precisely the reason why the second T-800 came to the past with knowledge about the T-1000, as the Resistance had found out about the latter's mission after reaching the time displacement center - and indeed, the notion of Uncle Bob being the last Terminator left in the planet at the end of ''T2'' is why he saw necessary to sacrifice himself in order not to leave any future technology behind. In this film, however, it turns out [[spoiler:the Resistance somehow overlooked that Skynet had also sent back Carl and his homologues at random points and dates before being defeated (as this would be the only explanation why they keep appearing in present time even after Skynet's timeline had been erased), which renders Uncle Bob's sacrifice utterly pointless.]]

* Praised as the film could be both as a sequel and as an independent movie, it is nonetheless true that the presence of the T-1000 is a departure from the story given in the previous. Reese explicitly stated that the Tech-Com had ''won'' in 2029, defeating Skynet and capturing its time displacement center, and that the first T-800 was sent back literally in the last minute as a desperate measure; nothing on this narrative hinted that Skynet still had time to send a T-1000 following back (or that something like the T-1000 existed in the first place), and in case it did, Connor and company could have potentially altered his plans to save Sarah from the first T-800, possibly sending Reese and Uncle Bob to the same period. It has been [[FanWank fan-wanked]] for decades that the events in ''Terminator'' altered the main timeline and created a different John Connor and a different Skynet instead of forming a StableTimeLoop (that is, that there was a first John Connor whose father was someone from his time instead of a time-travelling Reese), therefore altering too the circumstances of the 2029 victory, but nothing has ever been said officially about it.

* All the previous films had established dogs can sense the true nature of Terminator and go mad everytime one approaches. In this installment, however, [[spoiler:Carl has a dog that inexplicably loves him and acts normally in his presence, presumably in order to reinforce his new image of family man by showing that an EvilDetectingDog somehow doesn't detect him anymore.]] While it could be charitably assumed that dogs eventally get accustomed if exposed to Terminators for enough time, it is still an oddity that never gets addressed, not even by Sarah, who learned about this back when she was with Kyle and should have been puzzled by it.

* Uncle Bob states that his human half has at least a minor form of HealingFactor, and he accordingly acts as if he could regenerate anything with enough time, as indicated by him nonchalantly sacrificing the flesh of an entire hand only to convince Dyson of his true nature. In the previous film, the first T-800 didn't demonstrate this ability: his human part effectively died due to battle damage and started rotting away, forcing him to don a weak disguise in order not to immediately give it away that he was a cyber-zombie now.

* The films outright negates ''T2'''s message about fate and predestination, showing that, even after blowing Cyberdine up and melting Uncle Bob, another Skynet rose anyways due to the Air Force buying Cyberdine's patents, only in 2004 instead of 1997 and in a software form ironically much more difficult to defeat (and indeed, unlike the previous film, this Skynet had apparently ''not'' been even defeated by the time an Arnold was sent to the past). It's inevitable that fans see this not only as a mean-spirited copout on the previous films, but also as a gratuitous excuse to repeat the plot of ''T2''.
* The novelization of the film contains another by revealing shockingly (a subplot actually filmed but deleted from the movie) that the Air Force had already started projecting the Terminator line and that the T-800's face comes from a Sgt. William Candy from 2004. This could only work by if this Skynet and the one from the original duology were one and the same, which is wrong, as they were even created in different timelines; in the first one, there were no Terminator project before the 1997 Judgement Day, and Arnie's appearance came presumably from a random person from the batches of humans Skynet was using to experiment on in the future. That said human happened to be that timeline's version of William Candy would turn it into a wild ContrivedCoincidence, especially because in ''T3'' Candy was apparently a deep Southerner who happened to be sent to California specifically for the project.

* Given the extensive rewriting and reshoots the film suffered, it's little wonder that the final act feels disjointed, in particular the revelation of Skynet having been using Marcus all the time to find and lure John. Prior to that, there was ''zero'' indication that Marcus was not simply an escaped experimental subject: in the climax, the machines grant him access to the Skynet base because they recognize him as a pawn of Skynet's plan, but up to that point, all the machines Marcus had found since waking up had been regularly attacking him with clear intention to destroy (including the Harvester Transport that kidnapped Reese, which should have had strict orders not to kill Marcus given that Kyle was part of the same plan). Skynet's Serena Kogan interface even implies finding Kyle was also part of Marcus' mission, which makes even less sense having in account that their encounter actually happened by sheer luck.

* The film's breaking point is the T-5000, whose presence in the future changed all the timelines. However, he comes officially from an "unknown alternate timeline", eschewing any explanation of what event could have possibly generated a scenario where Skynet developed a nanotechnological-infecting Terminator incarnation for itself and reached the main timeline to change things up (particularly given that he seems to know exactly the events of the main timeline, as the second T-1000 shows), if that actually explains all the TimeyWimeyBall. Similarly, who or what sent Pops to the past is never explained. Those mysteries might have been meant to be solved in the two sequels that were in the works before being flattened by ''Genesis'''s box failure, but there's not a hint that make one guess how, unless it was by throwing at least one more AssPull to the mix.
* The concept of the time points allowing people to share memories with their versions of other timelines. It had never been mentioned in any of the previous films, and sounds more like ScienceFantasy than the relatively grounded approach to time travel used in the original duology.

* The T-1000 suddenly has the ability to leave pieces of itself behind to act as a tracking beacon for its targets—an ability that would have come in handy a few times in T2. In older materials, it was even stated that doing this was impossible for the T-1000 because it could only track its components up to a few dozen meters, and Skynet specifically programmed it to prioritize maintaining full mass because even losing small pieces over time would gradually make the creature less effective.
* Franchise wide, this film contains a change that '''nullifies the entire premise of ''Terminator''''': an extra T-1000 was sent from Connor's time to 1974, altering all the timeline, yet ''absolutely nothing changed'' in their own time as a consequence of this, with Reese only finding about it when he reached the past: the film even shows the T-5000 is now reigning supreme in 2029 after having massacred the resistance when Kyle was gone, making explicit that the multiple changes in the past neither changed nor erased his timeline. According to this, had the first T-800 or the T-1000 managed to kill John, nothing would have happened to the time plane where the humans had defeated Skynet, which the T-3000 then confirms himself by openly stating he can freely eliminate John and Sarah without affecting his own existence.

* ''Film/Terminator2JudgmentDay'' had established that Arnold's face belongs now to one of the most wanted criminals in the world, as the first T-800 massacred a police station while the second got into a new shootout with the police and was involved with the destruction of a technological company (and as shown in an scene in ''T2'', the police got closeups of the T-800's face the first time, meaning there was definitely enough material to start a manhunt). And yet, in this film [[spoiler:Carl had been living for some time in Texas of all places, just three states away from where both incidents happened, and apparently having no problem to maintain a curtain business nor worry that he might get discovered some day (which would have certainly ruined his new family).]] As if it was not weird enough, the film shows that, unlike him, Sarah ''has'' become herself a wanted criminal in all of United States despite having comparatively lesser crimes and a much more anodine physique.

* Franchise wide, this film contains a change that '''nullifies he entire premise of ''Terminator''''': an extra T-1000 was sent from Connor's time to 1974, altering all the timeline, yet ''absolutely nothing changes'' in their own time as a consequence of this, with Reese only finding about it when he reached the past: the film even shows the T-5000 is now reigning supreme in 2029 after having massacred the resistance when Kyle was gone, making explicit that the changes in the past neither changed nor erased his timeline. According to this, had the first T-800 or the T-1000 managed to kill John, nothing would have happened to the time plane where the humans had defeated Skynet, which the T-3000 then confirms himself by openly stating he can freely eliminate John and Sarah without affecting his own existence.

* The film's breaking point is the T-5000, whose presence in the future changed all the timelines. However, he comes officially from an "unknown alternate timeline", eschewing any explanation of what event could have possibly generated a scenario where Skynet developed a nanotechnological-infecting Terminator incarnation for itself and reached the main timeline to change things up (particularly given that he seems to know exactly the events of the main timeline, as the second T-1000 shows), if that actually explains all the TimeyWimeyBall. Similarly, who or what sent Pops to the past is never explained. Those mysteries might have been meant to be solved in the two sequels that were in the works before being flattened by ''Genesis'''s box failure, but there's not a hint that make one guess how, unless throwing at least one more AssPull to the mix.

* ''Film/Terminator2JudgmentDay'' had established that Arnold's face belongs now to one of the most wanted criminals in the world, as the first T-800 massacred a police station while the second got into a new shootout with the police and was involved with the destruction of a technological company (and as shown in an scene in ''T2'', the police got clear pictures of the T-800's face the first time, meaning there was definitely enough material to start a manhunt). And yet, in this film [[spoiler:Carl had been living for some time in Texas of all places, just three states away from where both incidents happened, and apparently having no problem to maintain a curtain business nor worry that he might get discovered.]] As if it was not weird enough, the film shows that, unlike him, Sarah ''has'' become herself a wanted criminal in all of United States despite having comparatively lesser crimes and a much more anodine physique.
* All the previous films had established dogs can sense the true nature of Terminator and go mad everytime one approaches. In this installment, however, [[spoiler:Carl has a dog that inexplicably loves him and acts normally in his presence, presumably in order to reinforce his new image of family man by showing that an EvilDetectingDog somehow doesn't detect him anymore.]] While it could be charitably assumed that dogs eventally get accustomed if exposed to Terminators enough time, it is still an oddity that never gets addressed, not even by Sarah, who learned about this back when she was with Kyle and should have been puzzled by it.

* The novelization of the films contains another by revealing shockingly (a subplot actually filmed but deleted from the movie) that the Air Force had already started projecting the Terminator line and that the T-800's face comes from a Sgt. William Candy from 2004. This could only work by if this Skynet and the one from the original duology were one and the same, which is wrong, as they were even created in different timelines; in the first one, there were no Terminator project before the 1997 Judgement Day, and Arnie's appearance came presumably from a random person from the batches of humans Skynet was using to experiment on. That said human happened to be that timeline's version of William Candy would turn it into a wild ContrivedCoincidence, especially because in ''T3'' Candy was apparently a deep Southerner who happened to be sent to California for the project.

* As in ''Genisys'', the resistance against Legion having futuristic technology and huge resources, including IEM weaponry, thorium reactors, augmentation tech and fancy Dragonfly aircrafts, is by itself a contradiction within ''Dark Fate'''s own timeline. The film implies the Judgement Day is imminent by showing that the 2020 versions of [[spoiler:Dani and Grace]] are already around the age they were when they met after the disaster, and it is well established that Legion's takeover left humanity crippled to the point that a random factory worker with some leadership skills was the maximum figure of authority the survivors could find. How did the new resistance developed into the well-equipped, professional-looking sci-fi army (still commanded by [[spoiler:Dani]]) seen in the 2042 flashbacks would almost need an entire film itself to explain, especially compared to the original duology's more realistic situation, where the resistance against Skynet never really progressed beyond scavenger state.

* ''Film/Terminator2JudgmentDay'' had established that Arnold's face belongs now to one of the most wanted criminals in the world, as the first T-800 massacred a police station while the second got into a new shootout with the police and was involved with the destruction of a technological company. And yet, in this film [[spoiler:Carl had been living peacefully and selling curtains for three decades in Texas of all places, just three states away from San Francisco, where both incidents happened.]] As if it was not weird enough, the film shows that, unlike him, Sarah ''has'' become herself a wanted criminal in all of United States despite having comparatively lesser crimes and a much more anodine physique.
* All the previous films had established dogs can sense the true nature of Terminator and go mad everytime one approaches. In this installment, however, [[spoiler:Carl has a dog that inexplicably loves him and acts normally in his presence, presumably in order to reinforce his new image of family man.]] While it could be simply that the dog had grown accustomed to him through the years, it is still an oddity that never gets addressed.
* Almost all critical reviews of film mention the character of Major Dean, an acquaintance of Sarah who happens to be an Air Force intelligence officer and appears conveniently just when the heroes are in need of a weapon that only the Air Force has. He doesn't even seem to be in the loop about Skynet and the Terminators, so it cannot be inferred that he was related to Sarah's mission. How did a military officer and a wanted criminal become (begrudging) allies, a question that would deserve at least a couple lines, is never addressed beyond a NoodleIncident.
* As in ''Genisys'', he resistance against Legion having futuristic technology and huge resources, including IEM weaponry, thorium reactors, aumengtation tech and fancy Dragonfly aircrafts, is by itself a contradiction within ''Dark Fate'''s own timeline. The film implies the Judgement Day is imminent by showing that the 2020 versions of [[spoiler:Dani and Grace]] are already around the age they were when they met after the disaster, and it is well established that Legion's takeover left humanity crippled to the point that a random factory worker with some leadership skills was the maximum figure of authority the survivors could find. How did the new resistance developed into the well-equipped, professional-looking sci-fi army (still commanded by [[spoiler:Dani]]) seen in the 2042 flashbacks would almost need an entire film itself to explain, especially compared to the original duology's more realistic situation, where the resistance against Skynet never really progressed beyond scavenger state.

* Praised as the film could be both as a sequel and as an independent movie, it is still true that the presence of the T-1000 is a departure from the story given in the previous. Reese explicitly stated that the Tech-Com had ''won'' in 2029, defeating Skynet and capturing its time displacement center, and that the first T-800 was sent back literally in the last minute as a desperate measure; nothing on this narrative hinted that Skynet still had time and resources to send a T-1000 following back, and in case he did, Connor and company could have potentially altered his plans to save Sarah from the first T-800, possibly sending Reese and Uncle Bob to the same period. It could be assumed that the events in ''Terminator'' altered the main timeline and created a different John Connor and a different Skynet instead of forming a StableTimeLoop (which has been discussed by fans for years, speculating that there was a first John Connor whose father was someone from his time instead of a time-travelling Reese), therefore altering too the circumstances of the 2029 victory; but in this case, it would nullify ''T2'''s own established conclusion that there's no fate and that the 1997 Judgement day could be avoided, as the film's backstory would have been the proof of the opposite.

* The films outright negates ''T2'''s message about fate and predestination, showing that, even after blowing Cyberdine up and melting Uncle Bob, another Skynet rose anyways, only in 2004 instead of 1997 and in a software form ironically much more difficult to defeat (and indeed, unlike the previous film, this Skynet had apparently ''not'' been even defeated by the time an Arnold was sent to the past). It's inevitable that fans see this as a mean-spirited copout on the previous films.
* The novelization of the films contains another by revealing shockingly (a subplot actually filmed but deleted from the movie) that the Air Force had already started projecting the Terminator and that Arnold's face comes from a Sgt. William Candy from 2004. This could only work by equating this Skynet to the same as the one from the original duology, which is wrong given that they are not one and the same and were created in different periods; in the first timeline, there were no Terminator project before the 1997 Judgement Day, and Arnie's appearance was presumably taken from a random person from the batches of humans Skynet was using to experiment. That said human happened to be that timeline's version of William Candy would turn it into a wild ContrivedCoincidence, especially because Candy was apparently a deep Southerner who happened to be sent to California for the project.

* Given the extensive rewriting and reshoots the film suffered, it's little wonder that the final act feels disjointed, in particular the revelation of Skynet having been using Marcus all the time to find Reese and attract Connor. Prior to that, there was ''zero'' indication that Marcus was not simply an escaped experimental subject: in the climax, the machines grant him access to the Skynet base because they recognize him as a pawn of Skynet, but up to that point, all the machines Marcus had found since waking up had been regularly attacking him with clear intention to destroy (including the Harvester Transport that kidnapped Reese, which should have had strict orders not to kill Marcus given that Kyle was part of the same plan). The revelation becomes even more nonsensical with the point that Marcus didn’t even actually find Reese, but met him by complete chance.

* The human resistance now having apparently resources to spare, with all of its members being healthy, well fed, with clearly high moral, and equipped with matching futuristic armors. Flashbacks from the first film showed that their ray guns (which were probably scavenged from destroyed machines) were the only fancy thing about them: their fighters were visibly emaciated, wearing dirty rags and looking like Vietnam vets in their own time. While ''Salvation'' justified its own change with the events of ''T3'' resulting in part of the American military infraestructure being saved, there's no similar justification in ''Genisys''.

* The fact that the T-1000 now can repair disabled Terminators with a mere drop of polyalloy is seen by some as breaking the character's fundamental nature, as it had been explicitly said in T2 that it could not utilize its mass for anything more complicated than forming a blade. An argument in favor of it is that the repair probably wasn't more than creating a wire to reroute power, but this is still more complicated than the aforementioned.

* The T-5000. He comes officially from an "unknown alternate timeline", eschewing any explanation of what event could have possibly generated a timeline where Skynet developed a nanotechnological-infecting Terminator incarnation for itself and reached the main timeline to change things up (particularly given that he seems to know exactly the events of the main timeline, as the second T-1000 shows), if that actually explains all the TimeyWimeyBall.
* Franchise wide, this film contains a change that '''nullifies he entire premise of ''Terminator''''': a T-800 was sent from Connor's time to 1974, altering all the timeline, yet ''absolutely nothing changes'' in their own time, with Reese only finding about this upon arriving and the T-5000 still reigning supreme in the future with his massacre after Kyle was gone. According to this, had the first T-800 or the T-1000 managed to kill John, nothing would have happened to the time plane where the humans had defeated Skynet, which the T-3000 confirms himself by stating he can freely eliminate John and Sarah without affecting his own existence.

* ''Film/Terminator2JudgmentDay'' had established that Arnold's face belongs now to one of the most wanted criminals in the world, as the first T-800 massacred a police station while the second got into a new shootout with the police and was involved with the destruction of a technological company. And yet, in this film [[spoiler:Carl had been living peacefully and selling curtains for three decades in Texas of all places, just three states away from San Francisco, where both incidents happened.]] As if it was not odd enough, the film shows that, unlike him, Sarah ''has'' become herself a wanted criminal in all of United States despite having comparatively lesser crimes and a much more anodine physique.
* All the previous films had established dogs can sense the true nature of Terminator and go mad everytime one approaches. In this installment, however, [[spoiler:Carl has a dog that inexplicably loves him and acts normally in his presence, presumably in order to reinforce his new image of family man.]]
* Almost all critical reviews of film mention the character of Major Dean, an acquaintance of Sarah who happens to be an Air Force intelligence officer and appears conveniently just when the heroes are in need of a weapon that only the Air Force has. How did a military officer and a wanted criminal become (begrudging) allies, a question that would deserve at least a couple lines, is never addressed beyond a NoodleIncident.

* The T-5000. He comes officially from an "unknown alternate timeline", eschewing any explanation of what event could have possibly generated a timeline where Skynet developed a nanotechnological-infecting Terminator incarnation for himself and reached the main timeline to change things up (particularly given that he seems to know exactly the events of the main timeline, as the second T-1000 shows), if that actually explains all the TimeyWimeyBall.

* The resistance against Legion having futuristic technology and huge resources, including IEM weaponry, thorium reactors, aumengtation tech and fancy Dragonfly aircrafts, is by itself a contradiction within ''Dark Fate'''s own timeline. The film implies the Judgement Day is imminent by showing that the 2020 versions of [[spoiler:Dani and Grace]] are already around the age they were when they met after the disaster, and it is well established that Legion's takeover left humanity crippled to the point that a random factory worker with some leadership skills was the maximum figure of authority the survivors could find. How did the new resistance developed into the well-equipped, professional-looking sci-fi army (still commanded by [[spoiler:Dani]]) seen in the 2042 flashbacks would almost need an entire film to explain, especially compared to the original duology's more realistic situation, where the resistance against Skynet never really progressed beyond scavenger state.

!!''Film/Terminator2FinalJudgment''

* The T-5000. He comes officially from an "unknown alternate timeline", eschewing any explanation of what event could have possibly generated a timeline where Skynet developed a nanotechnological-infecting Terminator incarnation for himself and reached the main timeline to change things up (particularly given that he seems to know exactly the events of the main timeline, as the second T-1000 shows), if that actually explains all the TimeWimeyBall.