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* Likewise, Bumblebee was a fairly late addition to the original ''ComicBook/TeenTitans'' series, initially becoming a costumed hero and joining the team to support her boyfriend Mal Duncan, who had been introduced several years prior. In ''ComicBook/WorldsFinestTeenTitans'' (a modernized retelling of the original Silver/Bronze Age Teen Titans), however, Bumblebee is already a member of the Titans and a superhero in her own right before Mal even shows up, replacing Lilith Clay/Omen as the sixth member to join the Teen Titans.
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* Likewise, Bumblebee was a fairly late addition to the original ''ComicBook/TeenTitans'' series, initially becoming a costumed hero and joining the team to support her boyfriend Mal Duncan, who had been introduced several years prior. In ''ComicBook/WorldsFinestTeenTitans'' (a modernized retelling of the original Silver/Bronze Age Teen Titans), however, Bumblebee is already a member of the Titans and a superhero in her own right before Mal even shows up, replaing replacing Lilith Clay/Omen as the sixth member to join the Teen Titans.
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** ''[[ComicBook/SeasonOne Spider-Man: Season One]]'', a modernized retelling of the early Creator/StanLee / Creator/SteveDitko ''[[ComicBook/TheAmazingSpiderManLeeAndDitko Amazing Spider-Man]]'' stories, Peter's first fight with the Vulture (originally depicted in ''The Amazing Spider-Man'' #2) has a cameo appearance from a young child who is very strongly implied to be [[Characters/MarvelComicsMilesMorales Miles Morales]].
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** In ''[[ComicBook/SeasonOne Spider-Man: Season One]]'', a modernized retelling of the early Creator/StanLee / Creator/SteveDitko ''[[ComicBook/TheAmazingSpiderManLeeAndDitko Amazing Spider-Man]]'' stories, Peter's first fight with the Vulture (originally depicted in ''The Amazing Spider-Man'' #2) has a cameo appearance from a young child who is very strongly implied to be [[Characters/MarvelComicsMilesMorales Miles Morales]].
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* In ''ComicBook/RobinAndBatman'', when Dick Grayson first puts on the ComicBook/{{Robin}} costume, the other kid sidekicks ([[ComicBook/TheFlash Kid Flash]], [[ComicBook/{{Aquaman}} Aqualad]], ComicBook/WonderGirl and [[ComicBook/GreenArrow Speedy]]) already exist, and the ComicBook/TeenTitans are formed the same day. In previous continuities Robin was generally the first kid sidekick of the modern era (in publication terms, he precedes the other Titans by ''decades'') the Titans were founded after he'd been working as Batman's partner for a while, and Wonder Girl and Speedy weren't ''quite'' founding members.
* Likewise, Bumblebee was a fairly late addition to the original ''ComicBook/TeenTitans'' series, initially becoming a costumed hero and joining the team to support her boyfriend Mal Duncan, who had been introduced several years prior. In ''ComicBook/WorldsFinestTeenTitans'' (a modernized retelling of the original Silver/Bronze Age Teen Titans), however, Bumblebee is already a member of the Titans and a superhero in her own right before Mal even shows up.
* Likewise, Bumblebee was a fairly late addition to the original ''ComicBook/TeenTitans'' series, initially becoming a costumed hero and joining the team to support her boyfriend Mal Duncan, who had been introduced several years prior. In ''ComicBook/WorldsFinestTeenTitans'' (a modernized retelling of the original Silver/Bronze Age Teen Titans), however, Bumblebee is already a member of the Titans and a superhero in her own right before Mal even shows up.
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* In ''ComicBook/RobinAndBatman'', when Dick Grayson first puts on the ComicBook/{{Robin}} costume, the other kid sidekicks ([[ComicBook/TheFlash Kid Flash]], [[ComicBook/{{Aquaman}} Aqualad]], ComicBook/WonderGirl and [[ComicBook/GreenArrow Speedy]]) already exist, and the ComicBook/TeenTitans are formed the same day. In previous continuities the Pre-Crisis continuity, Robin was generally the first kid sidekick of the modern era (in publication terms, he precedes the other Titans by ''decades'') ''decades'' whilst in general terms, Roy and Garth became Speedy and Aqualad respectively before Dick became Robin) the Titans were founded after he'd been working as Batman's partner for a while, and Wonder Girl and Speedy weren't ''quite'' founding members.
* Likewise, Bumblebee was a fairly late addition to the original ''ComicBook/TeenTitans'' series, initially becoming a costumed hero and joining the team to support her boyfriend Mal Duncan, who had been introduced several years prior. In ''ComicBook/WorldsFinestTeenTitans'' (a modernized retelling of the original Silver/Bronze Age Teen Titans), however, Bumblebee is already a member of the Titans and a superhero in her own right before Mal even showsup. up, replaing Lilith Clay/Omen as the sixth member to join the Teen Titans.
* Likewise, Bumblebee was a fairly late addition to the original ''ComicBook/TeenTitans'' series, initially becoming a costumed hero and joining the team to support her boyfriend Mal Duncan, who had been introduced several years prior. In ''ComicBook/WorldsFinestTeenTitans'' (a modernized retelling of the original Silver/Bronze Age Teen Titans), however, Bumblebee is already a member of the Titans and a superhero in her own right before Mal even shows
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** In order to add some diversity to the team, ComicBook/{{Cyborg}} is made into a founding member of the ComicBook/{{Justice League|2011}}. In real life, Cyborg wasn't introduced until the early 1980s, long after the creation of the Franchise/{{Justice League|Of America}}.
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** In order to add some diversity to the team, ComicBook/{{Cyborg}} is made into a founding member of the ComicBook/{{Justice League|2011}}. In real life, Cyborg wasn't introduced until the early 1980s, long after the creation of the Franchise/{{Justice ComicBook/{{Justice League|Of America}}.
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*** In the classic comics, Peter met George Stacy while in college and Jean [=DeWolff=] after graduating. Here, he meets [[AdaptationNameChange John Stacy and Jeanne DeWolfe]] while in high school and Stacy is even one of the cops hunting for Ben's killer (thus predating his daughter's debut). Peter also meets ComicBook/BlackCat, ComicBook/SilverSable, and ComicBook/{{Deadpool}} while in high school instead of after college. ComicBook/CloakAndDagger, [[Characters/HawkeyeKateBishop Kate Bishop]], and [[ComicBook/{{SHIELD}} Maria Hill]] are also active during what'd be Peter's high school years instead of post-college years.
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*** In the classic comics, Peter met George Stacy while in college and Jean [=DeWolff=] after graduating. Here, he meets [[AdaptationNameChange John Stacy and Jeanne DeWolfe]] while in high school and Stacy is even one of the cops hunting for Ben's killer (thus predating his daughter's debut). Peter also meets ComicBook/BlackCat, ComicBook/SilverSable, and ComicBook/{{Deadpool}} while in high school instead of after college. ComicBook/CloakAndDagger, [[Characters/HawkeyeKateBishop [[Characters/MarvelComicsKateBishop Kate Bishop]], and [[ComicBook/{{SHIELD}} Maria Hill]] are also active during what'd be Peter's high school years instead of post-college years.
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** The Paul Kupperberg iteration of the ComicBook/DoomPatrol were the second version of the team and formed after most of the first roster died, with Cliff Steele/Robotman seeming to be the sole survivor (and since then being the only member affiliated with every roster of the team). The New 52 incarnations of the Doom Patrol make their debut during the ''ComicBook/ForeverEvil2013'' event, which has most of the Paul Kupperberg roster (save for Robotman and Rhea Jones/Lodestone) being the first roster, while the classic roster of Robotman, Elasti-Girl and Negative Man are instead [[AdaptationalLateAppearance a second roster formed by the Chief]] after the first roster were wiped out by the Crime Syndicate members Johnny Quick and Atomica.
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** ''[[ComicBook/SeasonOne Spider-Man: Season One]]'', a modernized retelling of the early Creator/StanLee / Creator/SteveDitko ''[[ComicBook/TheAmazingSpiderManLeeAndDitko Amazing Spider-Man]]'' stories, Peter's first fight with the Vulture (originally depicted in ''The Amazing Spider-Man'' #2) has a cameo appearance from a young child who is very strongly implied to be ComicBook/MilesMorales.
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* Likewise, Bumblebee was a fairly late addition to the original ''Comicbook/TeenTitans'' series, initially becoming a costumed hero and joining the team to support her boyfriend Mal Duncan, who had been introduced several years prior. In ''Comicbook/WorldsFinestTeenTitans'' (a modernized retelling of the original Silver/Bronze Age Teen Titans), however, Bumblebee is already a member of the Titans and a superhero in her own right before Mal even shows up.
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*** In the classic comics, Peter met George Stacy while in college and Jean [=DeWolff=] after graduating. Here, he meets [[AdaptationNameChange John Stacy and Jeanne DeWolfe]] while in high school and Stacy is even one of the cops hunting for Ben's killer (thus predating his daughter's debut). Peter also meets ComicBook/BlackCat, ComicBook/SilverSable, and ComicBook/{{Deadpool}} while in high school instead of after college. ComicBook/CloakAndDagger, [[ComicBook/{{Hawkeye}} Kate Bishop]], and [[ComicBook/{{SHIELD}} Maria Hill]] are also active during what'd be Peter's high school years instead of post-college years.
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*** In the classic comics, Peter met George Stacy while in college and Jean [=DeWolff=] after graduating. Here, he meets [[AdaptationNameChange John Stacy and Jeanne DeWolfe]] while in high school and Stacy is even one of the cops hunting for Ben's killer (thus predating his daughter's debut). Peter also meets ComicBook/BlackCat, ComicBook/SilverSable, and ComicBook/{{Deadpool}} while in high school instead of after college. ComicBook/CloakAndDagger, [[ComicBook/{{Hawkeye}} [[Characters/HawkeyeKateBishop Kate Bishop]], and [[ComicBook/{{SHIELD}} Maria Hill]] are also active during what'd be Peter's high school years instead of post-college years.
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*** In the classic comics, Peter met George Stacy while in college and Jean [=DeWolff=] after graduating. Here, he meets [[AdaptationNameChange John Stacy and Jeanne DeWolfe]] while in high school and Stacy is even one of the cops hunting for Ben's killer (thus predating his daughter's debut). Peter also meets ComicBook/BlackCat, ComicBook/SilverSable, and ComicBook/{{Deadpool}} while in high school instead of after college. ComicBook/CloakAndDagger, [[ComicBook/HawkeyeKateBishop Kate Bishop]], and [[ComicBook/{{SHIELD}} Maria Hill]] are also active during what'd be Peter's high school years instead of post-college years.
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*** In the classic comics, Peter met George Stacy while in college and Jean [=DeWolff=] after graduating. Here, he meets [[AdaptationNameChange John Stacy and Jeanne DeWolfe]] while in high school and Stacy is even one of the cops hunting for Ben's killer (thus predating his daughter's debut). Peter also meets ComicBook/BlackCat, ComicBook/SilverSable, and ComicBook/{{Deadpool}} while in high school instead of after college. ComicBook/CloakAndDagger, [[ComicBook/HawkeyeKateBishop [[ComicBook/{{Hawkeye}} Kate Bishop]], and [[ComicBook/{{SHIELD}} Maria Hill]] are also active during what'd be Peter's high school years instead of post-college years.
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* ''ComicBook/SpiderManLifeStory'': Life Story #4, set in the 90s, introduces ComicBook/JessicaJones into the story. While Jessica was [[RetroactiveLegacy retroactively made an old classmate of Peter Parker]]'s, she actually technically wasn't created introduced into Marvel comics until the ''ComicBook/{{Alias}}'' series published during the TurnOfTheMillennium.
* Likewise, in ''[[ComicBook/SeasonOne Spider-Man: Season One]]'', a modernized retelling of the early Creator/StanLee / Creator/SteveDitko ''[[ComicBook/TheAmazingSpiderManLeeAndDitko Amazing Spider-Man]]'' stories, Peter's first fight with the Vulture (originally depicted in ''The Amazing Spider-Man'' #2) has a cameo appearance from a young child who is very strongly implied to be ComicBook/MilesMorales.
* Likewise, in ''[[ComicBook/SeasonOne Spider-Man: Season One]]'', a modernized retelling of the early Creator/StanLee / Creator/SteveDitko ''[[ComicBook/TheAmazingSpiderManLeeAndDitko Amazing Spider-Man]]'' stories, Peter's first fight with the Vulture (originally depicted in ''The Amazing Spider-Man'' #2) has a cameo appearance from a young child who is very strongly implied to be ComicBook/MilesMorales.
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** ''ComicBook/SpiderManLifeStory'' issue #4, set in the 90s, introduces ComicBook/JessicaJones into the story. While Jessica was [[RetroactiveLegacy retroactively made an old classmate of Peter Parker]]'s, she actually technically wasn't created introduced into Marvel comics until the ''ComicBook/{{Alias}}'' series published during the TurnOfTheMillennium.
* Likewise, in ** ''[[ComicBook/SeasonOne Spider-Man: Season One]]'', a modernized retelling of the early Creator/StanLee / Creator/SteveDitko ''[[ComicBook/TheAmazingSpiderManLeeAndDitko Amazing Spider-Man]]'' stories, Peter's first fight with the Vulture (originally depicted in ''The Amazing Spider-Man'' #2) has a cameo appearance from a young child who is very strongly implied to be ComicBook/MilesMorales.
** ''ComicBook/SpiderManLifeStory'' issue #4, set in the 90s, introduces ComicBook/JessicaJones into the story. While Jessica was [[RetroactiveLegacy retroactively made an old classmate of Peter Parker]]'s, she actually technically wasn't created introduced into Marvel comics until the ''ComicBook/{{Alias}}'' series published during the TurnOfTheMillennium.
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* Likewise, in ''Comicbook/WorldsFinestTeenTitans'' (a modernized retelling of the original Silver/Bronze Age Teen Titans), Bumblebee is the earliest new recruit to the team after the five founders. In the original continuity, Bumblebee didn't join the Titans until after her boyfriend Mal Duncan had already been part of the team, and only became a superhero in the first place while she was dating him.
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* Pre-Crisis Matches Malone, the criminal ComicBook/{{Batman}} pulls a DeadPersonImpersonation as, was depicted as meeting the real Batman shortly after Bruce comes into conflict with Ra's al Ghul; in fact, Bruce was trying to turn to Matches for help against Ra's. ComicBook/PostCrisis, the events of Matches coming into conflict with Batman and Bruce's subsequent impersonation of him was while before Bruce adopted Dick; in fact, Harvey Dent was still DA and hadn't become Two-Face yet.
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* Pre-Crisis Matches Malone, the criminal ComicBook/{{Batman}} pulls a DeadPersonImpersonation as, was depicted as meaning meeting the real Batman shortly after Bruce comes into conflict with Ra's al Ghul; in fact, Bruce was trying to turn to Matches for help against Ra's. ComicBook/PostCrisis, th the events of Matches coming into conflict with Batman and Bruce's subsequent impersonation of him was while before Bruce adopted Dick; in fact, Harvey Dent was still DA and hadn't become Two-Face yet.
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* Much like ''WesternAnimation/TheBatman'', ''ComicBook/AllStarBatmanAndRobinTheBoyWonder'' sees Barbara Gordon become ComicBook/{{Batgirl}} before Dick Grayson becomes Robin.
* ''Literature/ArtemisFowl'': The graphic novel adaptation of the first novel features references to Opal Koboi and her company -- both of which play major roles in the second book- that were not in the print version.
* ''ComicBook/BatmanTwoFaces'': Traditionally, Harvey Dent doesn't become Two-Face until sometime after Bruce Wayne has been active as Batman. In this Elseworld, it is changed so that Bruce Wayne takes up the cowl after trying to help Harvey Dent when his friend had already started a career as a criminal with a partially disfigured face.
* ''ComicBook/BuffyTheVampireSlayerBoomStudios'':
** Drusilla and Spike weren't introduced until the second season of the show. Promotional material for the first two issues has them shaping up to be some of Buffy's earliest foes.
** In the ''Angel'' spinoff, Fred Burckle is introduced in the second issue. She didn't appear until the second season of the sister series. Charles Gunn makes a an EarlyBirdCameo in a vision from #3, while he didn't appear until the very end of the first season of ''Angel''.
* The first ''Podcast/TheAdventureZoneBalance'' graphic novel, ''Here There Be Gerblins'' gives a brief non-speaking appearance to Carey Fangbattle, Brad Bradson, and Boyland.
* ''ComicBook/JemAndTheHologramsIDW'':
** In the [[WesternAnimation/{{Jem}} cartoon]] Jetta isn't introduced until season 2, when The Misfits decided they need a [[SixthRanger fourth member]] after Jem and The Holograms start looking for a new drummer. In the IDW comics she's already a Misfit before Jem's band is even commercially known.
** Stormer's older brother Craig is introduced in the same episode as Jetta but in the comics he bumps into Aja in the first arc.
** Clash doesn't appear until several episodes into the cartoon but is prominent from the start of the comic.
* ''ComicBook/TheLegendOfWonderWoman2016'' is an adaptation and update of Franchise/WonderWoman's WWII era tales and four of the five Holliday Girls are from her Golden Age WWII era stories. Lita Little on the other hand was never associated with WWII before, and wasn't introduced until Silver Age ''ComicBook/{{Wonder Woman|1942}}''.
* Certain random background Legionaires were changed into Brainiac 5 when early ''ComicBook/LegionOfSuperHeroes'' stories were reprinted, by simply recolouring them to Brainy's colours (purple clothes, green skin, blonde hair).
* ''ComicBook/MegaManArchieComics:'' Quite a few characters make appearances before the adaptation of their games of origin. The most notable examples include [[VideoGame/MegaMan4 Dr. Cossack and his Robot Masters]], who first appear before ''VideoGame/MegaMan3.'' [[VideoGame/MegaMan6 Mr. X]] ([[DecompositeCharacter as a new character and not a disguise used by Wily]]) also appears just before ''Mega Man 4's'' adaptation begins, and is later revealed to be [[spoiler:Xander Payne]], who first appeared in a comic-exclusive arc early in the series.
* The ''ComicBook/New52'':
** In order to add some diversity to the team, ComicBook/{{Cyborg}} is made into a founding member of the ComicBook/{{Justice League|2011}}. In real life, Cyborg wasn't introduced until the early 1980s, long after the creation of the Franchise/{{Justice League|Of America}}.
** ComicBook/{{Darkseid}} was initially introduced years after the Justice League already formed. In the ''New 52'' universe, he's the reason the League exists.
** ComicBook/{{Steel}} was first introduced in the aftermath of the ''[[ComicBook/TheDeathOfSuperman Death of Superman]]'' storyline that was published in TheNineties, long after Superman had been established both in real life and within the timeline of the ComicBook/DCUniverse. By contrast, the New 52 version of Steel made his debut during [[ComicBook/ActionComicsNew52 the early months of Superman's career]], showing up to help the young Kryptonian hero during his very first clash with Metallo.
* ''ComicBook/{{Noob}}'':
** The webseries and novels introduced Castorga during the Centralis battle. The comic has him show up before the first of the DisasterDominoes that led to the Centralis battle happening in the first place.
** The webseries and comic introduced the guild of Gaea Admirers during the Centralis battle, but the comic introduced them during an earlier battle taking place on Syrial.
** The novels introduced Mist right after the faction of Chaos was driven out of Glacesang, an event that happened several months after then Centralis battle. The comic introduces her [[spoiler:one day]] before the Centralis battle takes place.
* In the comic book adaptation of ''Literature/SmallGods'' the History Monks' Books of History reveal on the cover that they were written by Wen the Eternally Surprised, with commentary by Clodpool the Apprentice. In the novels, the founder of the History Monks wouldn't be named until ''Literature/ThiefOfTime''.
* ''ComicBook/SpiderManLifeStory'': Life Story #4, set in the 90s, introduces ComicBook/JessicaJones into the story. While Jessica was [[RetroactiveLegacy retroactively made an old classmate of Peter Parker]]'s, she actually technically wasn't created introduced into Marvel comics until the ''ComicBook/{{Alias}}'' series published during the TurnOfTheMillennium.
* Likewise, in ''[[ComicBook/SeasonOne Spider-Man: Season One]]'', a modernized retelling of the early Creator/StanLee / Creator/SteveDitko ''[[ComicBook/TheAmazingSpiderManLeeAndDitko Amazing Spider-Man]]'' stories, Peter's first fight with the Vulture (originally depicted in ''The Amazing Spider-Man'' #2) has a cameo appearance from a young child who is very strongly implied to be ComicBook/MilesMorales.
* The ''ComicBook/TalesFromTheDarkMultiverse'' version of ''ComicBook/BatmanHush'' heavily borrows elements from ''ComicBook/NightOfTheOwls'', including the eponymous Court of Owls. In regular continuity, the Court was only established to exist two {{Cosmic Retcon}}s after the events of ''Hush''.
* When ''Franchise/{{Tintin}} in the Congo'' was turned into color, Thomson and Thompson were added into the scene where he is saying goodbye to everyone on the railway platform (they were not present in the original black and white edition). The pair made their first proper appearance in ''Cigars of the Pharaoh''.
* Creator/MarvelComics did a ComicBookAdaptation of ''WesternAnimation/ToxicCrusaders'', the first issue of which was an adaptation of the cartoon's first episode. The comic had Headbanger and Junkyard appear with Nozone and Major Disaster as heroes wanting to help Toxie fight crime, when the original cartoon had Headbanger and Junkyard appear in the second and third episodes respectively before joining the Toxic Crusaders.
* ComicBook/UltimateMarvel:
** ''ComicBook/UltimateSpiderMan'':
*** In the original ''ComicBook/SpiderMan'' comics, ComicBook/GwenStacy predated ComicBook/MaryJaneWatson (introduced as TheGhost) as Peter's love interest. In ''ComicBook/UltimateSpiderMan'', Mary Jane appears from the very beginning, while Gwen doesn't show up until issue #14. That said, Gwen herself also counts as Peter didn't meet her -- or Harry and MJ -- until college, whereas here, they're among his high school classmates.
*** As with most modern adaptations, the series has ComicBook/NormanOsborn and his son Harry around from pretty much the beginning, with Harry serving as one of Peter's only friends at Midtown High. In the original comics, Peter didn't meet Harry until he began attending college, with Norman showing up a little bit later. Also, Norman is established as the Green Goblin within the first story arc, in contrast to the original Silver Age stories, where the Green Goblin appeared way before Norman or Harry. In fact, when the Goblin was originally unmasked as Norman back in 1966, it was treated as a shocking plot twist.
*** In the classic comics, Peter Parker had years under his belt as Spider-Man, and he and Eddie Brock were well out of college when the latter became Venom. Here, Peter is still a rookie in high school and Eddie is in college when Eddie turns into Venom. Likewise, Carnage is introduced while Peter is in high school.
*** In the classic comics, Peter met George Stacy while in college and Jean [=DeWolff=] after graduating. Here, he meets [[AdaptationNameChange John Stacy and Jeanne DeWolfe]] while in high school and Stacy is even one of the cops hunting for Ben's killer (thus predating his daughter's debut). Peter also meets ComicBook/BlackCat, ComicBook/SilverSable, and ComicBook/{{Deadpool}} while in high school instead of after college. ComicBook/CloakAndDagger, [[ComicBook/HawkeyeKateBishop Kate Bishop]], and [[ComicBook/{{SHIELD}} Maria Hill]] are also active during what'd be Peter's high school years instead of post-college years.
*** ComicBook/TheKingpin, Miles Warren, Silvermane, Hammerhead, ComicBook/MoonKnight, ComicBook/ShangChi, ComicBook/{{Taskmaster}}, and ComicBook/IronFist are also around while Peter is in high school instead of college.
*** Despite canonically being a classmate of Peter's, ComicBook/JessicaJones falls into this as she didn't appear until Peter was out of college in the comics, whereas we do see her and Peter in high school here.
** ''ComicBook/UltimateXMen'':
*** ComicBook/JeanGrey was the last of the original 5 Silver Age X-Men to actually join, with the first issue dealing with her introduction to the rest of the team. Here, she's the second ever member of the X-Men, and the first issue actually has her traveling the country to recruit the rest of the team.
*** ComicBook/{{Storm|MarvelComics}} and ComicBook/{{Colossus}} are founding members of the team, and ComicBook/{{Wolverine}} joins shortly after. In the original run, they didn't show up until over a decade after the creation of the team.
*** Due to the series serving as an AdaptationDistillation of decades worth of X-Men stories, there are various examples of characters who didn't show up until much later in the original comics appearing early on here. For instance, Ultimate ComicBook/{{Rogue}} first shows up in issue #7, while her original counterpart didn't join the team until ''Uncanny X-Men'' #171. Meanwhile, Ultimate ComicBook/{{Gambit}} has his debut in issue #13, while the original Gambit first appeared in ''Uncanny X-Men Annual ''#14, which was published 27 years after the series began.
*** As in the 90s animated series, the Sentinels are the first villains faced by the X-Men, while their original Silver Age counterparts didn't appear until ''X-Men'' #14.
** ''ComicBook/TheUltimates'':
*** ComicBook/CaptainAmerica is a founding member of the team, in contrast to the original ''ComicBook/TheAvengers'' comics, where he only joined in issue #4 after ComicBook/TheIncredibleHulk left the group a few issues prior.
*** ComicBook/BlackWidow and ComicBook/{{Hawkeye}} are introduced as members of the group's secret black-ops wing in issue #7. In the original comics, Hawkeye didn't become an Avenger until the major roster shake-up in issue #16, while Black Widow didn't officially join until issue #111 (though she did have multiple notable guest spots prior to that).
** ''ComicBook/UltimateFantasticFour'':
*** ComicBook/DoctorDoom's first appearance in the original ''ComicBook/FantasticFour'' comics was in issue #5. In the Ultimate universe, however, Doom is a major part of the Four's backstory, and [[AdaptationOriginConnection was with them during the ill-fated experiment that transformed the group]].
*** Likewise, Franklin Storm is a major character from the beginning, and essentially serves as the TeamDad until his death in ''ComicBook/{{Ultimatum}}''. The mainline universe version of Franklin didn't appear until ''Fantastic Four'' #31, and was KilledOffForReal shortly after that.
* ''ComicBook/XMenGrandDesign'':
** Mesmero is a founding member of [[Characters/MarvelComicsMagneto Magneto]]'s Brotherhood of Evil Mutants. In the original comics, Mesmero didn't appear until ''X-Men'' #49, 45 issues after the first appearance of the Brotherhood.
** A younger version of Callisto shows up in the first issue (set during the initial Creator/StanLee / Creator/JackKirby ''X-Men'' run), where she encounters the original X-Men when they bring the Morlocks a Thanksgiving meal. Callisto's first appearance was in ''Uncanny X-Men'' #169, nearly two decades after Lee and Kirby had left the series.
** In general, a number of characters and concepts created during the Creator/ChrisClaremont run in the late 70s and early 80s like ComicBook/{{Storm|MarvelComics}}, [[Characters/XMenMutants Moira MacTaggert]], ComicBook/{{Legion|Marvel Comics}}, Lilandra, the Starjammers and the Phoenix Force make brief appearances in the first issue, even though it's set years before any of those characters actually first showed up.
* The ''ComicBook/HasbroComicUniverse'' version of the ''WesternAnimation/BeastMachines'' Tankor[[note]]As "Tankor" was also used for Octane thanks to copyright issues, The ''BM'' Tankor is called "Fat Tankor", while Octane is called "Tall Tankor.[[/note]] is this on two counts: first as he appears while the Autobots and Decepticons are still around and also because (as with Galvatron and Megatron, and Bumblebee and Goldbug/Goldfire) this version is a case of DecompositeCharacter and thus ''isn't'' a reprogrammed [[WesternAnimation/BeastWars Rhinox]], who's a case of AdaptationalLateAppearance as a result. This also applies to pretty much any Beast Era character since the Beast Era normally takes place millenia after the conclusion of the Autobot-Decepticon war. As such, Beast Era characters show up either as Cybertronians who have adopted more specialized forms (Waspinator, Rattrap), natives of Eukaris (Tigatron, Airazor) and Carcer (Strika, Obsidian), or (most infamously) as [[AdaptationalVillainy Maximals]] in the service of some of the final villains of the run (Optimus Primal, Megatron, Rhinox, Inferno, Scorponok).
* Pre-Crisis, Alfred Pennyworth did not appear in the main ''ComicBook/{{Batman}}'' comics until issue #16, where he first introduced himself to an adult Bruce Wayne and was hired as his butler. Previously, Bruce Wayne had been raised by his uncle Philip upon his parents’ death (Philip was originally his paternal uncle but now is his maternal uncle). ComicBook/PostCrisis and all subsequent adaptations (and in a case of BackportedDevelopment, the ''Series/Batman1966'' tie-in film, ''WesternAnimation/BatmanReturnOfTheCapedCrusaders''), Alfred has been depicted as the one to become Bruce's surrogate father and having been a part of the Waynes' lives since, DependingOnTheWriter and incarnation, Bruce was a kid or before Bruce was even born.
* In ''ComicBook/RobinAndBatman'', when Dick Grayson first puts on the ComicBook/{{Robin}} costume, the other kid sidekicks ([[ComicBook/TheFlash Kid Flash]], [[ComicBook/{{Aquaman}} Aqualad]], ComicBook/WonderGirl and [[ComicBook/GreenArrow Speedy]]) already exist, and the ComicBook/TeenTitans are formed the same day. In previous continuities Robin was generally the first kid sidekick of the modern era (in publication terms, he precedes the other Titans by ''decades'') the Titans were founded after he'd been working as Batman's partner for a while, and Wonder Girl and Speedy weren't ''quite'' founding members.
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* Much like ''WesternAnimation/TheBatman'', ''ComicBook/AllStarBatmanAndRobinTheBoyWonder'' sees Barbara Gordon become ComicBook/{{Batgirl}} before Dick Grayson becomes Robin.
* ''Literature/ArtemisFowl'': The graphic novel adaptation of the first novel features references to Opal Koboi and her company -- both of which play major roles in the second book- that were not in the print version.
* ''ComicBook/BatmanTwoFaces'': Traditionally, Harvey Dent doesn't become Two-Face until sometime after Bruce Wayne has been active as Batman. In this Elseworld, it is changed so that Bruce Wayne takes up the cowl after trying to help Harvey Dent when his friend had already started a career as a criminal with a partially disfigured face.
* ''ComicBook/BuffyTheVampireSlayerBoomStudios'':
** Drusilla and Spike weren't introduced until the second season of the show. Promotional material for the first two issues has them shaping up to be some of Buffy's earliest foes.
** In the ''Angel'' spinoff, Fred Burckle is introduced in the second issue. She didn't appear until the second season of the sister series. Charles Gunn makes a an EarlyBirdCameo in a vision from #3, while he didn't appear until the very end of the first season of ''Angel''.
* The first ''Podcast/TheAdventureZoneBalance'' graphic novel, ''Here There Be Gerblins'' gives a brief non-speaking appearance to Carey Fangbattle, Brad Bradson, and Boyland.
* ''ComicBook/JemAndTheHologramsIDW'':
** In the [[WesternAnimation/{{Jem}} cartoon]] Jetta isn't introduced until season 2, when The Misfits decided they need a [[SixthRanger fourth member]] after Jem and The Holograms start looking for a new drummer. In the IDW comics she's already a Misfit before Jem's band is even commercially known.
** Stormer's older brother Craig is introduced in the same episode as Jetta but in the comics he bumps into Aja in the first arc.
** Clash doesn't appear until several episodes into the cartoon but is prominent from the start of the comic.
* ''ComicBook/TheLegendOfWonderWoman2016'' is an adaptation and update of Franchise/WonderWoman's WWII era tales and four of the five Holliday Girls are from her Golden Age WWII era stories. Lita Little on the other hand was never associated with WWII before, and wasn't introduced until Silver Age ''ComicBook/{{Wonder Woman|1942}}''.
* Certain random background Legionaires were changed into Brainiac 5 when early ''ComicBook/LegionOfSuperHeroes'' stories were reprinted, by simply recolouring them to Brainy's colours (purple clothes, green skin, blonde hair).
* ''ComicBook/MegaManArchieComics:'' Quite a few characters make appearances before the adaptation of their games of origin. The most notable examples include [[VideoGame/MegaMan4 Dr. Cossack and his Robot Masters]], who first appear before ''VideoGame/MegaMan3.'' [[VideoGame/MegaMan6 Mr. X]] ([[DecompositeCharacter as a new character and not a disguise used by Wily]]) also appears just before ''Mega Man 4's'' adaptation begins, and is later revealed to be [[spoiler:Xander Payne]], who first appeared in a comic-exclusive arc early in the series.
* The ''ComicBook/New52'':
** In order to add some diversity to the team, ComicBook/{{Cyborg}} is made into a founding member of the ComicBook/{{Justice League|2011}}. In real life, Cyborg wasn't introduced until the early 1980s, long after the creation of the Franchise/{{Justice League|Of America}}.
** ComicBook/{{Darkseid}} was initially introduced years after the Justice League already formed. In the ''New 52'' universe, he's the reason the League exists.
** ComicBook/{{Steel}} was first introduced in the aftermath of the ''[[ComicBook/TheDeathOfSuperman Death of Superman]]'' storyline that was published in TheNineties, long after Superman had been established both in real life and within the timeline of the ComicBook/DCUniverse. By contrast, the New 52 version of Steel made his debut during [[ComicBook/ActionComicsNew52 the early months of Superman's career]], showing up to help the young Kryptonian hero during his very first clash with Metallo.
* ''ComicBook/{{Noob}}'':
** The webseries and novels introduced Castorga during the Centralis battle. The comic has him show up before the first of the DisasterDominoes that led to the Centralis battle happening in the first place.
** The webseries and comic introduced the guild of Gaea Admirers during the Centralis battle, but the comic introduced them during an earlier battle taking place on Syrial.
** The novels introduced Mist right after the faction of Chaos was driven out of Glacesang, an event that happened several months after then Centralis battle. The comic introduces her [[spoiler:one day]] before the Centralis battle takes place.
* In the comic book adaptation of ''Literature/SmallGods'' the History Monks' Books of History reveal on the cover that they were written by Wen the Eternally Surprised, with commentary by Clodpool the Apprentice. In the novels, the founder of the History Monks wouldn't be named until ''Literature/ThiefOfTime''.
* ''ComicBook/SpiderManLifeStory'': Life Story #4, set in the 90s, introduces ComicBook/JessicaJones into the story. While Jessica was [[RetroactiveLegacy retroactively made an old classmate of Peter Parker]]'s, she actually technically wasn't created introduced into Marvel comics until the ''ComicBook/{{Alias}}'' series published during the TurnOfTheMillennium.
* Likewise, in ''[[ComicBook/SeasonOne Spider-Man: Season One]]'', a modernized retelling of the early Creator/StanLee / Creator/SteveDitko ''[[ComicBook/TheAmazingSpiderManLeeAndDitko Amazing Spider-Man]]'' stories, Peter's first fight with the Vulture (originally depicted in ''The Amazing Spider-Man'' #2) has a cameo appearance from a young child who is very strongly implied to be ComicBook/MilesMorales.
* The ''ComicBook/TalesFromTheDarkMultiverse'' version of ''ComicBook/BatmanHush'' heavily borrows elements from ''ComicBook/NightOfTheOwls'', including the eponymous Court of Owls. In regular continuity, the Court was only established to exist two {{Cosmic Retcon}}s after the events of ''Hush''.
* When ''Franchise/{{Tintin}} in the Congo'' was turned into color, Thomson and Thompson were added into the scene where he is saying goodbye to everyone on the railway platform (they were not present in the original black and white edition). The pair made their first proper appearance in ''Cigars of the Pharaoh''.
* Creator/MarvelComics did a ComicBookAdaptation of ''WesternAnimation/ToxicCrusaders'', the first issue of which was an adaptation of the cartoon's first episode. The comic had Headbanger and Junkyard appear with Nozone and Major Disaster as heroes wanting to help Toxie fight crime, when the original cartoon had Headbanger and Junkyard appear in the second and third episodes respectively before joining the Toxic Crusaders.
* ComicBook/UltimateMarvel:
** ''ComicBook/UltimateSpiderMan'':
*** In the original ''ComicBook/SpiderMan'' comics, ComicBook/GwenStacy predated ComicBook/MaryJaneWatson (introduced as TheGhost) as Peter's love interest. In ''ComicBook/UltimateSpiderMan'', Mary Jane appears from the very beginning, while Gwen doesn't show up until issue #14. That said, Gwen herself also counts as Peter didn't meet her -- or Harry and MJ -- until college, whereas here, they're among his high school classmates.
*** As with most modern adaptations, the series has ComicBook/NormanOsborn and his son Harry around from pretty much the beginning, with Harry serving as one of Peter's only friends at Midtown High. In the original comics, Peter didn't meet Harry until he began attending college, with Norman showing up a little bit later. Also, Norman is established as the Green Goblin within the first story arc, in contrast to the original Silver Age stories, where the Green Goblin appeared way before Norman or Harry. In fact, when the Goblin was originally unmasked as Norman back in 1966, it was treated as a shocking plot twist.
*** In the classic comics, Peter Parker had years under his belt as Spider-Man, and he and Eddie Brock were well out of college when the latter became Venom. Here, Peter is still a rookie in high school and Eddie is in college when Eddie turns into Venom. Likewise, Carnage is introduced while Peter is in high school.
*** In the classic comics, Peter met George Stacy while in college and Jean [=DeWolff=] after graduating. Here, he meets [[AdaptationNameChange John Stacy and Jeanne DeWolfe]] while in high school and Stacy is even one of the cops hunting for Ben's killer (thus predating his daughter's debut). Peter also meets ComicBook/BlackCat, ComicBook/SilverSable, and ComicBook/{{Deadpool}} while in high school instead of after college. ComicBook/CloakAndDagger, [[ComicBook/HawkeyeKateBishop Kate Bishop]], and [[ComicBook/{{SHIELD}} Maria Hill]] are also active during what'd be Peter's high school years instead of post-college years.
*** ComicBook/TheKingpin, Miles Warren, Silvermane, Hammerhead, ComicBook/MoonKnight, ComicBook/ShangChi, ComicBook/{{Taskmaster}}, and ComicBook/IronFist are also around while Peter is in high school instead of college.
*** Despite canonically being a classmate of Peter's, ComicBook/JessicaJones falls into this as she didn't appear until Peter was out of college in the comics, whereas we do see her and Peter in high school here.
** ''ComicBook/UltimateXMen'':
*** ComicBook/JeanGrey was the last of the original 5 Silver Age X-Men to actually join, with the first issue dealing with her introduction to the rest of the team. Here, she's the second ever member of the X-Men, and the first issue actually has her traveling the country to recruit the rest of the team.
*** ComicBook/{{Storm|MarvelComics}} and ComicBook/{{Colossus}} are founding members of the team, and ComicBook/{{Wolverine}} joins shortly after. In the original run, they didn't show up until over a decade after the creation of the team.
*** Due to the series serving as an AdaptationDistillation of decades worth of X-Men stories, there are various examples of characters who didn't show up until much later in the original comics appearing early on here. For instance, Ultimate ComicBook/{{Rogue}} first shows up in issue #7, while her original counterpart didn't join the team until ''Uncanny X-Men'' #171. Meanwhile, Ultimate ComicBook/{{Gambit}} has his debut in issue #13, while the original Gambit first appeared in ''Uncanny X-Men Annual ''#14, which was published 27 years after the series began.
*** As in the 90s animated series, the Sentinels are the first villains faced by the X-Men, while their original Silver Age counterparts didn't appear until ''X-Men'' #14.
** ''ComicBook/TheUltimates'':
*** ComicBook/CaptainAmerica is a founding member of the team, in contrast to the original ''ComicBook/TheAvengers'' comics, where he only joined in issue #4 after ComicBook/TheIncredibleHulk left the group a few issues prior.
*** ComicBook/BlackWidow and ComicBook/{{Hawkeye}} are introduced as members of the group's secret black-ops wing in issue #7. In the original comics, Hawkeye didn't become an Avenger until the major roster shake-up in issue #16, while Black Widow didn't officially join until issue #111 (though she did have multiple notable guest spots prior to that).
** ''ComicBook/UltimateFantasticFour'':
*** ComicBook/DoctorDoom's first appearance in the original ''ComicBook/FantasticFour'' comics was in issue #5. In the Ultimate universe, however, Doom is a major part of the Four's backstory, and [[AdaptationOriginConnection was with them during the ill-fated experiment that transformed the group]].
*** Likewise, Franklin Storm is a major character from the beginning, and essentially serves as the TeamDad until his death in ''ComicBook/{{Ultimatum}}''. The mainline universe version of Franklin didn't appear until ''Fantastic Four'' #31, and was KilledOffForReal shortly after that.
* ''ComicBook/XMenGrandDesign'':
** Mesmero is a founding member of [[Characters/MarvelComicsMagneto Magneto]]'s Brotherhood of Evil Mutants. In the original comics, Mesmero didn't appear until ''X-Men'' #49, 45 issues after the first appearance of the Brotherhood.
** A younger version of Callisto shows up in the first issue (set during the initial Creator/StanLee / Creator/JackKirby ''X-Men'' run), where she encounters the original X-Men when they bring the Morlocks a Thanksgiving meal. Callisto's first appearance was in ''Uncanny X-Men'' #169, nearly two decades after Lee and Kirby had left the series.
** In general, a number of characters and concepts created during the Creator/ChrisClaremont run in the late 70s and early 80s like ComicBook/{{Storm|MarvelComics}}, [[Characters/XMenMutants Moira MacTaggert]], ComicBook/{{Legion|Marvel Comics}}, Lilandra, the Starjammers and the Phoenix Force make brief appearances in the first issue, even though it's set years before any of those characters actually first showed up.
* The ''ComicBook/HasbroComicUniverse'' version of the ''WesternAnimation/BeastMachines'' Tankor[[note]]As "Tankor" was also used for Octane thanks to copyright issues, The ''BM'' Tankor is called "Fat Tankor", while Octane is called "Tall Tankor.[[/note]] is this on two counts: first as he appears while the Autobots and Decepticons are still around and also because (as with Galvatron and Megatron, and Bumblebee and Goldbug/Goldfire) this version is a case of DecompositeCharacter and thus ''isn't'' a reprogrammed [[WesternAnimation/BeastWars Rhinox]], who's a case of AdaptationalLateAppearance as a result. This also applies to pretty much any Beast Era character since the Beast Era normally takes place millenia after the conclusion of the Autobot-Decepticon war. As such, Beast Era characters show up either as Cybertronians who have adopted more specialized forms (Waspinator, Rattrap), natives of Eukaris (Tigatron, Airazor) and Carcer (Strika, Obsidian), or (most infamously) as [[AdaptationalVillainy Maximals]] in the service of some of the final villains of the run (Optimus Primal, Megatron, Rhinox, Inferno, Scorponok).
* Pre-Crisis, Alfred Pennyworth did not appear in the main ''ComicBook/{{Batman}}'' comics until issue #16, where he first introduced himself to an adult Bruce Wayne and was hired as his butler. Previously, Bruce Wayne had been raised by his uncle Philip upon his parents’ death (Philip was originally his paternal uncle but now is his maternal uncle). ComicBook/PostCrisis and all subsequent adaptations (and in a case of BackportedDevelopment, the ''Series/Batman1966'' tie-in film, ''WesternAnimation/BatmanReturnOfTheCapedCrusaders''), Alfred has been depicted as the one to become Bruce's surrogate father and having been a part of the Waynes' lives since, DependingOnTheWriter and incarnation, Bruce was a kid or before Bruce was even born.
* In ''ComicBook/RobinAndBatman'', when Dick Grayson first puts on the ComicBook/{{Robin}} costume, the other kid sidekicks ([[ComicBook/TheFlash Kid Flash]], [[ComicBook/{{Aquaman}} Aqualad]], ComicBook/WonderGirl and [[ComicBook/GreenArrow Speedy]]) already exist, and the ComicBook/TeenTitans are formed the same day. In previous continuities Robin was generally the first kid sidekick of the modern era (in publication terms, he precedes the other Titans by ''decades'') the Titans were founded after he'd been working as Batman's partner for a while, and Wonder Girl and Speedy weren't ''quite'' founding members.
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