I consider we make Recap pages for the episodes. There are 52 episodes (26 more on the way), each with a large amount of tropes in each of them. Anyone else agree?
Plus there's the Marvel Universe comics. Since there's already a page for the Avengers: EMH's Marvel Universe run, it would only be fair to have one for Ultimate Spider-Man's as well.
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Is there a trope for how Aunt May knew that Peter's school had been attacked by supervillains but was still disappointed that after all that excitement and trouble, Peter had forgotten Uncle Ben's cake?
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It's kind of close to No Sympathy, isn't it? Although, she was ultimately understanding. In fairness, attacks by supervillains are a pretty common thing in that universe.
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Yeah, but generally they don't stoop so low as to come after schoolkids, it seemed to me. But maybe No Sympathy covers it.
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Anybody got any idea if Goblin is a separate enough from Norman to count as his own "character" or not? I want to propose Goblin for the Complete Monster trope, but I don't want to waste anybody's time if he's too intertwined with Norman to count.
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Does Goblin reappearing the lastest episode qualify as Hijacked by Ganon?
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The examples and trope description make it seem like he needs to behind the current threat to qualify, so I say no. Somebody else might disagree with me though.
Being lazy, so I'm copying and pasting this from Ask the Tropers.
What's the best way to deal with these two entries filed under They Wasted a Perfectly Good Plot in Ultimate Spider-Man YMMV page?
-The first episode has Norman Osborn angry at Doctor Octopus and the Frightful Four, whom he hired, due to attacking a high school, where his son is, seeming to legitimately care. The show drops this character trait by "Back In Black".
-There have been several missed opportunities for Doc Ock vs Green Goblin.
Because in the first case, "The Iron Octopus" (a late season one episode that happens after "Back In Black") has Norman going back to his neglectful but caring persona. He can be shown protecting Harry when the Iron Man armor shows up to attack and shows concern when Ock captures his son. And a season two episode, "Second Chance Hero" has him trying to be more involved in his son's life.
As for the second case, we do get Goblin vs Ock in the form of Eviler than Thou and Curb-Stomp Battle. Long story short, any time those two are pitted against each other, Goblin pretty much kicks Ock's ass in a very short "battle" of sorts.
I'm thinking of deleting and adding notes when I do, but I rather not start a Edit War. Or should I modify the examples instead?
So on the YMMV page, it's mentioned that Deadpool "kidnapped" Spider-Man. Actually, Spidey asked to join Deadpool on his mission. I feel that those parts be either be changed or deleted, but I would like some sort of consensus before I do anything.
I not sure whether this goes here or not, but someone put under Fridge Brilliance that Nova goofing off is basically the result of him facing greater threats while he was in space. I can understand that, however wouldn't that contradict the fact Nova rarely takes matters seriously when he should? Furthermore, despite having previous experience with a team, Sam is arguably the person Pete had most difficulty working with.
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To me, it made sense. Sam is an immature teenager, and if he's used to facing much bigger threats, he may be arrogant enough to see Earth stuff as no big deal.
As for Peter, one could chalk up to the fact that Sam and Peter are rather close in age while Sam's old team consisted of adults much older than Sam. Sam's lack of respect could be from that, but your mileage may vary.
We need to change the name of this main trope back due to the fact that any attempt to write the correct name of the Ultimate Spider-Man appears as shown, but Ultimate Spider-Man is supposedly incorrect if you click on it.
So... should we replace the page quote. Thor's, "He is the man of spiders" quote is awesome, mind you, but it just doesn't fit with what the show is about
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How about the line from the Deadpool episode before he drags him away?
I think the Jamerson section of Strawman Has a Point should be in a Jerkass Has a Point as all he does is rant about Spidey rather then report news.
I honestly don't see the "obvious" toy promotion in this show.
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Speaking as a toy collector, neither do I. Have you seen the line for the show? It's quite anemic.
Some of the elements seem quite toyetic (all the characters, the modified bigger webshooter, the Spider Cycle) except they don't... really have toys.
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Apparently Stan's Soapbox (from the Spider-Hulk episode) is an actual shout out to the comics. Since I'm fairly unfamiliar with the comics, would someone more familiar with them mind adding that to the mythology gag trope?
"You and your incessant blatter, Do you ever shut up?!" Doc. Ock says this in response to all of Spidey's constant talking. It feels like it should fit some sort of trope, like one of the many Shut Up! tropes, but I can't find anything that fits.
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Doesn't really seem to fit. Spidey was rambling before Doc. Ock told him to shut up. I wonder if Big "SHUT UP!" would fit more.
Should we Put a scrappy on JJJ as an example in universe? Also if you pay attention to what Conners and fury say about the Spider-Cycle, the explanation is a bit more solid. I.e. the cycle is faster, cheaper, and less physically demanding the web-swinging.
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I don't know for JJJ, but for the Spider-Cycle: I am sorry, but that explanation still is silly: if they wanted Spider-Man to be faster, they could have just improved his web-shooters even more directly. Also, seriously, a relatively simple web-shooter is more expensive than a high tech bike ? And web-swinging is slower than a bike in a city with traffic everywhere? I don't think so...
How, exactly, would they improve the webshooters to make Spidey move faster? He moves via swinging. There's really nothing you could do to the webshooter technology that would make Spider-Man move faster in the air.
Well, you could increase their range so he can take longer individual swings. That's about it. Not even sure if it would make him faster, but it would make web slinging less physically demanding, at least. But he rarely has to deal with traffic given this is fiction (... and he can drive on walls). That said, the idea that the bike is cheaper than upgrading webshooters (... which are cheap enough that Peter built them on a high schooler's allowance) is silly.
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To be fair the web-shooters were cheap, the cost to make web-fluid is not. Thus a better reason to use the bike, and save the webbing for the crooks.
Remember when Miles Morales was on the list of candidates for Flash's understudy? Does this mean Peter is Doomed by Canon?
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I would say no. That cameo came off more like a Mythology Gag than anything else to me.
The articles refer to the show and the comic series as being completely unrelated and give off the impression that the two sharing a name is a coincidence. This isn't true as the creators say that it is certainly inspired by the comic if not a direct adaption. There must be a better way to word it.
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Should "What If" apply here—say, unlike the Ultimate Comic version of Peter Parker, this series might be what happened if Nick Fury had taken more seriously Peter's potential, and made more an overture to him than his comics counterpart (who sadly died at Norman Osborn's hands after taking a bullet for a Captain America who'd belittled him beforehand)?
Also it seems the other heroes (Hulk, Iron Man, Thor and Wolverine) seem to notice Spidey had more than first glance, and could do more than others give him credit for.
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Should we give Agent/Principal Coulson his own entry in "Characters"? He seems to be "Becoming the Mask" when he has to blend in (and ends up looking like he's Gone Native), "Comicly Serious" and an "Ink Suit Actor" as Clark Gregg admitted he's enjoyed voicing Coulson: "They're doing, as I'm told, this groundbreaking animation with "Ultimate Spider-Man" and some young superheroes hiding out in a high school in New York City and they need a watcher. They need a diva wrangler, and that would be Principal Coulson. And it's been so fun - I was like, "Yeah, sure - I don't want anyone else being Coulson. That's me!" And I went down there and I've been doing it for a couple of months and the scripts are so funny. I've really had a blast."
That and The Other Wiki had Coulson tell Fury that Ultimate Spidey was a Wild Card as well.
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Dodgeball is Hell, and possibly a "Wonderful Toys" trope might apply with "Why I Hate Gym"; Peter gets bonked by Flash with a dodgeball, then Spidey uses them in the Dark against Taskmaster (TM). Spidey and White Tiger trade a few items for their "who you're NOT in the dark" fight against TM (he gives her a spare mask with night vision and his web shooters, she gives him her energy claw gauntlets; Tiger even admits she knows why he's got the shooters—"These are fun!"). Also would an unpredictability trope help as Spidey points out TM can't think like Peter Parker might (and by thinking outside the box gives a "Wild Card" edge outside those who know a lot SHIELD does but can't predict everything)?
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How would the fact the Living Laser gets thrown into the Super Hero Squad Show universe play as a trope? Throwback, warped-mind dimension warp, or something else? This troper thought it was funny as all out though.
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It was hilarious. I cited it as Mythology Gag, I think.
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Could we possibly find a page photo that shows the cast rather than simply the logo? Please?
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I accidentally pressed "Enter" before giving the full reasoning as to why I removed the "Strawman Has A Point" trope.
- Peter has his smart moments and his dumb moments. Everybody makes mistakes. He's human.
- Peter and his team's behavior towards him is a product of teenage humor and the fact they haven't gotten use to each other yet. Most of the first season is showing how they develop as a team and learn to trust each other. Which brings me to my next point:
- Peter and his team have already developed FAR past the point of being immature and "jerks" to others. Not to sound judgmental, but the user apparently had only payed attention to these traits during select episodes (from Season 1) and is comparing it to older versions of Spider-Man, as if it needed to follow that format. That's why I corrected the mistake. It's not out of spite for "negativity".
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