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SeventhNight
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07:41:04 AM Dec 2nd 2012
Uh... I've always wondered about Ada Wong's ending when she destroyed Carla's lab. Just to clear things up, I've only played RE 4 and beyond, but it seems to me that Ada got very emotional at this part. That made me wonder. Did Ada include in that compact of hers evidence that would clear her name as well (not just Leon and Helena)?
jalapeno
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07:26:54 PM Oct 24th 2012
How exactly is Simmons not a Complete Monster? He's one of th most extravagantly, implausibly evil villians the franchise has had since the Ashford siblings. I just don't see how this could be contestable.
Kervinle2500
01:14:34 AM Oct 28th 2012
I know. Simmons is also a Magnificent Bastard that forced Helena to work for him, had her sister a C-Virus strain victim, and callously had the President become a zombie and an entire state being infected just because the President was willingly trying to reveal the events of Resident Evil 2. He also made one of his researchers into an Ada Wong clone. He is seriously the best Card-Carrying Villain you would Love to Hate.
jalapeno
09:56:42 PM Oct 30th 2012
edited by jalapeno
I know. Someone was contesting whether or not he should have an entry on Main detailing this. I'll amend that.

Personally I find it difficult to class Simmons as a Magnificent Bastard. With his nebulous power and influence I seriously doubt he really needed Helena to compromise the President's security, and had even less of a reason to leave her alive after he did so. Let's not forget the fact that he left Carla alive and allowed her to accrue the ridiculous amount of resources she'd need to make that daft underwater base of hers.

What I took from him was that he's a beneficiary of nepotism, much like Alfred Ashford was. No real talent, cunning or charm, just a diabolically insane, misogynistic berk who won the genetic lottery.
hayabusahime
06:10:46 PM Oct 31st 2012
I agree with Simmons being a complete monster, but Carla wasn't his wife. She was a researcher who worked for Simmons. She had a thing for him though.
jalapeno
02:46:01 PM Nov 1st 2012
Ah, mea culpa. Edit it however you see fit.

RhetoricHunter
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08:30:08 AM Oct 4th 2012
So, how long until this page devolves into inane bashing like the ME 3 page?
coolman229
08:23:18 PM Oct 12th 2012
I'm hoping that things remain civil, and any opinions are kept to the YMMV page. So far things seem to be good.

Though to be fair, ME3 deserved a lot of the flak it got. RE6 is only disappointing if you want it to have any consistent atmosphere.
jalapeno
04:56:42 PM Oct 20th 2012
Discussion is here for the sake of fleshing out troper's thoughts on I Ps. There's plenty of thought provoking discussion to be had on RE 6. To be frank I'm surprised there isn't more discussion already.
Tridenter
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09:01:00 PM Aug 21st 2012
About the Retcon...

It seems that the public knew the "gist" of what happened to Raccoon City but the topic that President Benford wanted to discuss seems to be the U.S. involvement with Umbrella prior to it (supporting Umbrella up until the Raccoon incident, purchasing B.O.W.s, trying to undermine Umbrella by buying the G-Virus from Birkin essentially causing the outbreak...). A scene shown of the flashback of the President speaking to Leon has him saying that the U.S. needs to take responsibility, that they need to come clean and that the U.S. is partly to blame for bio-organic weapons. So I'm not sure it's really a retcon since that stuff was kept from the public and it sounds like it was the stuff he wanted to put out into the open.
Ukokira
05:56:03 AM Oct 1st 2012
Are there no Australian tropers that have this game? It feels odd seeing videos of the whole game but no update to tvtropes or either of the wikis.
jalapeno
10:08:28 PM Oct 30th 2012
edited by jalapeno
On your point Tridenter, I think that the retcon is deliberately, inanely vague. I cannot see what in the prior events in the series the cover-up could be hiding that would damage the US's reputation that could possibly have remained a secret during the Umbrella Trials. I mean, if there was a highly public trial of Umbrella's executives, wouldn't those jerks have threaten to expose anything incriminating to gag the government into leaving them be?

It's almost as if they started the plot planning to include a bigger reveal. Imagine if it turned out that the American government planned the bio-outbreak as a test to see if it could be contained with existing containment protocols, or that Umbrella still exists after it's public dismantling because they hid remote-released viral bombs in ever American city and have been effectively holding America hostage since the mid-nineties?

I don't know, something. ANYTHING. Instead Simmons blurts out something about the government losing face. It's bollocks.
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