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hcdaria
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07:13:07 AM Jan 16th 2012
Under the Portal Book entry, someone says that it is an inversion of the trope because the book makes the world real instead of a person entering the book. If I remember right, after saying the incantation people do enter the book (which is why they put the book on top of a locker so it wouldn't be messed with). I'm not entirely sure about this and I don't want to change it if I'm wrong. Any other thoughts from a more recent viewer?
ading
06:20:29 AM May 11th 2013
It was that they go into the book, if it's the episode I'm thinking of.
FuzzyWulfe
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04:22:00 AM Dec 18th 2011
edited by FuzzyWulfe
I'm removing The Mole from Mason's character tropes. Original explanation was "Well, not quite a bad guy, but he still attacked Justin and Juliet and betrayed Alex, after he pretended he loved her. It turned out that he actually fell in love with her in the end." This is completely wrong even if you only take that particular episode into account. He attacked Justin while trying to find the locket to prove that he always loved Alex. Also, at no point have we ever seen that he is with Alex for any reason besides love.

EDIT: And fixed up his summary. It was written too closely tied to the belief that Mason had some kind of Heel-Face Turn.
hayleychaotix
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05:25:23 AM Jul 16th 2011
Should this really count?

•Lonely At The Top: Alex wins the Wizard Competition and has Full-Wizard abilities, but this comes at the price of losing the person she cares most about and being left alone.

She wasn't left alone, she had a way to bring them back right in her hand.
FuzzyWulfe
04:12:56 AM Dec 18th 2011
I'm inclined to say that it doesn't qualify. Alex didn't win the competition for purely personal gain or use deception of any kind. The entire reason for it was so that either she or Justin would have the power to reverse her wish. It was the means to an end, not the ends.
tricksterson
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09:52:26 AM Jun 21st 2011
When Alex tells her flashback to go away in "Magic Unmasqued" would that be Painting the Fourth Wall or Leaning on the Fourth Wall. I posted it as the former but if someone thinks the latter is more appropriate go ahead and move it.
hayleychaotix
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07:18:06 AM May 9th 2011
I'm moving the Juliet in the background thing from High Octane Nightmare Fuel to just Nightmare Fuel. Judging by the music, her smile, and the fact that it's Disney Channel, it was probably meant to be touching, not scary.
hayleychaotix
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07:59:29 PM May 5th 2011
edited by hayleychaotix
Listed under Chekhov's Gun it says the genie trick from Kelbo. If I remember correctly the genie trick was capturing someone's soul and putting it in a lamp. Exactly when was this used or brought up again? Cause I don't remember it, and if it wasn't brought it shouldn't be there.
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04:41:17 AM Jun 25th 2011
I don't remember it being brought up either. Can anyone explain?
rellished
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02:43:30 PM Mar 31st 2011
edited by rellished
someone please delete the High Octane Nightmare Fuel page. Wizards does not have this. It's just Nightmare Fuel.
ading
06:34:50 AM Apr 3rd 2011
And you know this how?
morbsspace
06:43:15 AM Apr 4th 2011
well, it's not really High Octane, if you think about it. Just Wizards Vs. Angels might be this case, just because of the subject.
ading
04:40:24 PM Apr 6th 2011
I'm not sure what you mean.
hayleychaotix
05:13:15 AM Jul 15th 2011
I think he means it's a Disney Channel show. They're not trying to scare us.
ading
03:17:03 PM Sep 6th 2011
^ It's Darker and Edgier than most Disney shows, though, and at least one of the examples was regarded as terrifying In-Universe, so I think it was probably intended to be scary.
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02:12:51 PM Mar 14th 2011
Say, what's all this about Max being Chaotic Evil?
cclospina
06:14:41 PM Mar 26th 2011
In "Monster Hunter", Max killed ("indirectly")to all the hunters of monsters and several innocent people just to have a chance of win in the contest.

cclospina
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07:36:48 PM Feb 5th 2011
Alex russo is not a Saint, but she is not a sociopath.
hayleychaotix
05:12:27 AM Jul 15th 2011
Yeah I honestly don't get what people are talking about with that. Recently she's become so much of a JerkAss and Karma Houdini I don't like her, but nothing that would really make her a sociopath.
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03:18:56 PM Sep 6th 2011
edited by samarlo20
I agree, she may not be the most likable hero, but she definitely is capable of feeling love and guilt.
SoRiku
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06:07:52 PM Jan 3rd 2011
Brother Grimace:

Me too xD I approve of Alex's new looks, most of them at least. Granny look from Uncle Ernesto has got to go though.
tricksterson
11:07:03 AM Jan 15th 2011
Now if only someone would actually create the trope?
SoRiku
05:59:46 AM Feb 6th 2011
Which trope? A granny-looking trope? lol
115.117.209.47
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10:21:47 AM Dec 9th 2010
Here's a possible getting crap past the radar:

In "Baby Cupid" Harper gifts Justin a sweater entirely made of her "HAIR".
LadyNorbert
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08:21:53 PM Sep 3rd 2010
Removed this entry:

  • Nephewism: Jerry and Theresa speak of Harper as if she's also their daughter, saying that Harper's the one that has more potential, debate about whether they should save her before Alex (if a choice has to be made) and state (in front of Alex!) they have to save Harper because she's the one they're depending to take care of them when they're older.

Harper is Alex's best friend, not the Russos' niece, and therefore this does not constitute Nephewism. (I also removed the entry on the Nephewism page itself.) I'm sure this is SOME trope, but it's not that one.
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06:22:29 AM May 11th 2013
121.245.53.106
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06:16:05 PM Jul 25th 2010
This might be a probable double entendre:

In episode Wizard School Part I, Professor Crumbs says, "I am learning to shock people with my pants."
BlueDude2
11:20:51 PM Oct 13th 2010
yes, yes it is. Radar-riffic.
ading
06:24:24 AM May 11th 2013
Now that IS a Double Entendre.
121.245.29.132
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02:26:57 AM Jul 2nd 2010
Does this count as a double entendre?

In Fashion Week, when Alex breaks the lamp Justin fixed and Justin has to fix it again, he threatens Alex, saying "Sleep with one eye open." (This was before the whole spin-hug thing).
121.245.24.0
08:58:59 AM Jul 2nd 2010
Another one: At the end of "Delinquent Justin", Theresa said to Justin and Alex, "You guys are hilarious. Just say that you love each other." They sprang apart immediately and said "No, we don't" in unison.
squidder
12:21:18 PM Jul 4th 2010
the first one, not really, because it's not obvious. the Double Entendre must be obvious. the second one might work.
Spider
01:28:00 PM Jul 6th 2010
edited by Spider
Neither of those are double entendres. A double entendre is a play on words in which one term can be heard/interpreted in two ways, usually one innocent and the other suggestive. For example: "She placed her tulips [two lips] on his organ [musical instrument or genitals]," or anything that makes somebody say, "That's what she said!", like if someone said regarding playing the piano, "He needs to work on his fingering."

"Sleep with one eye open" is not a double entendre, and isn't even dirty unless you're seriously reaching. Saying, "No, we don't" in unison might imply that the two really do love each other, but the phrase itself isn't a double entendre.
121.245.44.32
06:33:35 PM Jul 8th 2010
well, if you watch 'delinquent justin' your opinion might difer. The way the scene was done was quite unsiblishy.
Spider
08:48:56 AM Jul 10th 2010
edited by Spider
That's fine — I'm not saying that the content of the show isn't full of eyebrow-raising subtext, but those two phrases are simply not double entendres and wouldn't belong as examples of such.
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06:24:05 AM May 11th 2013
"Sleep with one eye open" means "sleep with one eye open". "No, we don't" means "No, we don't." No double meanings.
spacialcreek
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10:46:42 AM Jun 13th 2010
I wonder if it's ok to have a picture on the Brother-Sister Incest page, the other Brother-Sister Incest pages don't have pictures on them and the main one was deleted by the managers, so I guess they had a pretty good reason to do it. They might delete this one as well, or even worse, the entire page. By the way, all that Brother-Sister Incest isn't more like Incest Yay?
sandhi11
12:45:15 PM Jun 13th 2010
This is a brother/sister incest page is directly relating to a work. having a picture of the two characters in question hugging does not seem out of line to me. If the admins wanted to delete the page they would do it regardless of the harmless picture in question. but this page has been around for a little while, if the admins had any objections, they would have done it by now.
spacialcreek
12:56:07 PM Jun 13th 2010
yes, but the read the end of the description on the main Brother-Sister Incest page: someone wrote: NOTE: This trope is for actual cases of Incest in story. Incestuous subtext goes in Incest Yay.
sandhi11
09:05:16 PM Jun 13th 2010
I have no problem with someone transfering the entire page. but I would wait a few weeks, so see if there are any objections
spacialcreek
10:46:02 PM Jun 13th 2010
edited by spacialcreek
on the Discussion page from the Incest Yay trope there are some tropers talking about transferring the page.
67.173.179.102
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11:03:04 PM Jun 6th 2010
What if Justin ends up being adopted? I mean that would seriously resolve all of the UST and Brother And Sister Incest that the show is slathered with. Plus David Henrie is the only actor of the three siblings who doesn't look as Hispanic as he does Italian.
spacialcreek
12:33:07 PM Jun 7th 2010
I don't think Disney would allow it. It would cause too much controversy because it's a show for kids. And they wouldn't want to cancel it since WOWP is an Emmy award- winning show.
64.237.194.194
06:34:09 PM Jun 7th 2010
Okay, seriously. I still don't get this Jalex thing. No matter how many times I read about it, I never see any tension between them.
spacialcreek
11:47:14 AM Jun 8th 2010
have you seen The Movie?
SoRiku
08:22:17 PM Jun 10th 2010
Justin can't be adopted, he was taken away by the tornado in the movie. I'll probably make a Fanon trope about this.
BlueDude2
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08:09:58 PM May 27th 2010
I just noticed a (probably unintentional) double entendre. Where is the best place to share?

Alex: You're the only one in the family who still takes a bath. Justin: You try floating an aircraft carrier in the shower!
SoRiku
07:46:15 PM May 30th 2010
The Getting Crap Past the Radar page.
spacialcreek
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01:42:40 AM Apr 4th 2010
the new image is cooler.
Jumpingzombie
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11:41:31 AM Mar 13th 2010
I cleaned up a bunch of the natter as well as splooge inducing wankfest arguments in the examples. When the hell did Wizards of Waverly Place become Serious Business?
SoRiku
12:28:54 AM Mar 29th 2010
The producers treat it as serious business, so basically it's set a path for the fans to treat it as such as well. Wizards nowadays has two types of fans: casual I'll watch it if it's on fans, and diehard, know all the behind the scenes production facts, treat the series as if it's the Olympics fans. Granted, this isn't unwarranted... for a Disney show it's quite entertaining, given their strict restrictions.
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