Yes, please. I was actually fine with Anti-Heroes the way they were, but even after close to a decade on the site I still have to open a new tab and consult the page every time a "type X anti-villain" is referenced to double-check which one it is. It's not even much of a sliding scale unlike the Anit-Hero one.
The Dark Lord of Hawaiian Shirts
I found this in the Type II section:
Neverwinter Nights 2: Mask of the Betrayer features the Founder, the definition of Woobie, Destroyer of Worlds. She inflicted the Player Character with a soul-eating curse and set into motion events that threaten the very fabric of the Forgotten Realms, all to save her lover from the Wall of the Faithless.
I Believe she's more a Well-Intentioned Extremist. Even the description above sounds like it.
Srg. Dornan: Troper, what are you doing here?! Get back to your post!!!
Is it possibly to have a cleanup of Type X examples of Sliding Scale of Anti-Villains, since we already did a cleanup of Sliding Scale Of Anti Heroes?
I think the Type III overlaps with Type IV Anti-Hero as much as Type III.
Does Roy Batty really belong in category IV? He may have made a left turn and chosen mercy at the end, but prior to that he commits several brutal murders throughout the film, and takes obvious pleasure in letting James Hong's character freeze to death after ripping his suit in the genetic modification lab. He seems more like a type II, given his obviously evil and sadistic methods for reaching his selfish-but-really-understandable goal of not dying. He's a Woobie, Destroyer of Worlds, simply put. I could see an argument for type III as well, depending on how "noble" you view his goal of avoiding death, and how much he really cares about the other replicants that follow him.
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Would like to contend that Candace fits in the "Villain in Name Only" category in that she is an obssessive antagonist to the heroes. However, neurotic and self centered though she is she is far from evil. So she fits there.
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Was going to put her back but decided that Heroic Antagonist maybe fits better
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Yes.
Shouldn't this be just "Scale Of Antivillains?" I mean, how could someone slide on the scale?
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Remove type I and type II, the fact that a character is not a complete monster, does not mean a antivillain.
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Any of the three.
Possibly in the type "Anti Villain in name only"
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The reason the original type II existed in the first place was because of the Noble Demon. They're more evil than original type III because for them its a choice rather than something they're driven/pushed to. However, as per the course of the Noble Demon, they have a lot of lines they won't cross or standards they adhere to as they are often restrained in how far they'll go to succeed. Alternatively, their villany is merely a job as opposed to something they enjoy. Both are likely to Pet the Dog as opposed to Kick the Dog. Compare with original type 4 who has legitimate good intentions but uses dark methods to said goal. Perhaps we should name new type I "Disney Anti-Villain" as the Noble Demon is the archtypical Anti-Villain people associate with the trope. Tropes associated with type I are Punch-Clock Villain, Would Not Shoot a Civilian, Never Hurt an Innocent, Wouldn't Hurt a Child, Hitman with a Heart, and of course Noble Demon.
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Considering that the old Sliding Scale of Anti-Heroes was supplanted by the Anti-Hero page, I think the Sliding Scale of Anti Villains should also receive the same treatment.
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