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04:27:57 PM Oct 23rd 2015
edited by CabbitGirlEmi
This is what I'm feeling towards Steve Jobs despite not seeing it. Is it necessary to give it an R-rating through how many filthy words it has? It's annoying, and a practice that needs to be abolished. Besides, those kinds of words work better in comedies and as some action movie catchphrases.
01:35:03 PM Sep 27th 2014
Why were general examples removed?

P.S. I know I never get answers here unless the accompanying page is a hot topic now.
03:14:30 PM Sep 27th 2014
It's a sitewide rule not to have general examples.
11:07:01 AM Feb 9th 2014
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I believe this should apply to a certain Magical Girl anime from 2010 that I have been avoiding like the plague...
03:53:11 PM Feb 9th 2014
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Well, if you think it (whatever it is) applies, add it!
07:36:48 PM Dec 8th 2013
edited by harryhenry
Old Phineas and Ferb entries that were cut:

Number 1:
  • Phineas and Ferb. Originally, the show was adored by many, had been received positive reviews by many critics, and praised for being "a show in the second dark age of animation, that was actually bearable and groundbreaking.". The praise went on from 2007 to 2011, until the show's popularity had been gradually dying out, due to the successes and arrivals of Regular Show, Adventure Time, and My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic. All 3 of which have been much more successful, praised and even have DVD season boxsets(though Disney hasn't really released season sets of their shows, so this could be the MAJOR reason), as opposed to the show that started the New Renaissance Age of Animation. Then, people started to hate on it in late 2011/early 2012, to constantly claim that "the show is repetitive, one dimensional, doesn't have any character development whatsoever", and that the show follows the same plot, to avoid trying to do something new. The hate was small and minor at first(there are some, that even thought this before the Hate Dumb of the show arrived), but then gradually became bigger and bigger, to the point of most people on the Internet thinking this, and go out of their way to avoid mentioning this show as one of the few good shows on TV nowadays. This got even worse, when Gravity Falls came along, which was pretty much the final nail in the coffin for people ever appreciating the show again. Alot of the haters have moved onto the aforementioned 3 shows, and Gravity Falls. Worst of all, is that people are actually BLAMING Phineas and Ferb, on the fact that Gravity Falls hardly shows new episodes, despite Disney doing the same thing with Phineas and Ferb.

Number 2, by cartoonfreak95:
  • Phineasand Ferb is a key example. During the later 2000s(Which is considered by many to be the "Second Dark Age of Animation), many people cited most modern animation/cartoons to be terrible. What was worse is that SpongeBob had changed after becoming Un-Cancelled and no longer had the same appeal, as the first three seasons before the movie and its original cancellation did. But when Phineasand Ferb came along, it restored faith in modern animation, as it was seen as sharper and not anything like we had seen at that point. It became so popular and had a cult fanbase, that Disney had plans to turn it into a Cash Cow Franchise. It remained this way, until after the show's TV movie and Halloween and medieval specials. 2012 was when many of the show's fans became haters and started to hate the show for being "formulaic" and "repetitive, with no variety whatsoever", as well as "the characters having no development" and "the animation being bland, cheap and life-less". It got even worse following Gravity Falls' debut. Basically, Phineasand Ferb was praised at first but once it became popular and a huge hit....Downhill from there.

Number 3, by cartoonfreak95 (Again...):
  • 3 words: Phineas and Ferb. When the show came out, people were surprised at how creative and funny a modern cartoon was(You have to consider at this point, shows like "Mr. Meaty" were out), and despite other modern cartoons coming out with similar critical appeal, Phineas and Ferb still remained it's popularity. Until Gravity Falls came out.......more and more people who used to enjoy the show began to hate it, to the point where "Mission Marvel" 's trailer is getting bad reception and that's on a trailer alone............

Number 4, by cartoonfreak95 (Yet Again...):
  • Phineas and Ferb has suffered heavily from this since 2012 to the point of where almost everyone hates the show now for being formulaic and not developing the characters and having a song in every episode.

Number 5, by anonymous1224:
  • Phineas & Ferb is a big example of this. When it first came out, the show was well received, got high ratings & was considered to be a Spiritual Successor to the Pre-Cancellation SpongeBob seasons. It lasted 5 years of decent popularity without feeling overexposed. When the show resumed to making regular episodes after it's TV movie & especially after "Gravity Falls" debuted, many of the show's former cult fanbase began to hate the show for simply repeating it's formula & jokes, having lack of character development & having a song in every episode. This got even worse when "Mission Marvel" was announced to the point of where it's hard now to ever believe that there wasn't a time where alot of people criticised the show.

Number 6, by anonymous1224 (Again...):
  • Phineas&Ferb has been suffering from this since 2012. While the show used to be fairly popular, especially around the internet, many people began to hate the show for being formulaic and derivative, reliant on musical numbers, having bland characters and a mediocre art style. This worsened when the Marvel Crossover Mission Marvel came.....

Number 7, by anonymous1224 (Yet Again...):
  • When Phineas and Ferb debuted, it had a cult internet fanbase due to it's humor and characters that wasn't like anything on TV at the time. Following mid 2012, the show has suffered from this and some of the show's former fans either refuse to admit they have ever liked it, hate the show because it's too "mainstream" or think the show has declined heavily in quality since the show has become popular.
04:35:07 PM Jul 8th 2013
I think its the fear of Sequelitis that makes some people cry It's Popular, Now It Sucks!.
11:45:42 PM Jul 8th 2013
I would argue it's the fact it could become watered/dumbed down that scares them.
02:51:24 AM Jul 13th 2013
Isn't that the same thing? Ignoring the original fanbase and stretching the IP to appeal to a the general public?
10:14:46 PM Mar 25th 2012
I'd say why it's justified is because of fear of OCs and Mary Sues or ruined fanfiction and other tragedies of famous fandoms.
11:04:00 PM Jun 23rd 2013
Well, there's some of that in every fandom, regardless of size. I'd say it's more like a large fandom is a double-edged sword — the overall amount of Fan Dumb will increase, simply because of Sturgeon's Law, but you'll also get a ton of new people contributing fresh thoughts and works to the fandom.
01:15:28 AM Feb 29th 2012
So what is the inverse of this? Putting aside that this is a reaction thingie and not actually a trope per-se... What would you call it when something gathers fans precisely because it is unpopular or downright hated by the majority (ironic or otherwise)?

09:23:30 AM Nov 19th 2011
I posted a an example of how fans of doctor who seem to like the Steven Moffet era even though the ratings seem to have gone down which has now been cut for some reason without explanation. Is there a reason for this if not is there a way I can get it back.
03:32:10 PM Nov 19th 2011
don't worry got it back still wouldn't mind knowing who deleted it though
12:17:48 PM Jan 6th 2012
edited by OldManHoOh
Yes, I'm late, having long-since re-deleted this, but it's not "no reason". There's an extremely long reason stated connected to a user name; i.e. mine. How did you miss this?

"The correlation is bunk, but the "rapidly decling" bit about only dedicated fans is ABSOLUTE bunk. The ratings are definitely lower than the 2009 one-offs, but they have NOT substantially declined since series 3 and 4, unless you're comparing series 6's overnights to the earlier series' final figures including recordings and BBC iPlayer. That's the mistake all the tabloids are constantly making, to the chagrin of Moffat as well as Doctor Who Magazine's editor."

And also, from my second deletion:

"one-off episodes skew a lot higher than the regular series", i.e., the Christmas specials, and other one-offs like Planet of the Dead and The Waters of Mars has millions more tuning in than the 13 weekly episodes.
02:10:41 AM Nov 10th 2011
I just cut this:

  • Real Life. With the world's population passing the 7 billion mark, a fair number of individuals are content to gripe about problems brought about by the increasing population rather than attempting to solve them.

That's not an example, that's just whining about people whining.
03:52:52 PM Nov 7th 2011
I just cut this:

  • Taylor Swift after the Kanye West incident at the 2009 MTV Video Music Awards resulted in an overwhelming outcry of public support for her and winning four Grammys, including becoming the youngest artist ever to win Album of the Year.

If someone can clarify how exactly this is an example, I will gladly readd it.
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