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7th Feb '17 12:35:20 PM Anddrix
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c} This causes a full-throated case of Sequelitis in the studio, due to the hope of making more money. Said sequels, unlike the original, ''will'' use the usual crowd-pleasing tropes mentioned above, as well as re-tooling the original film's premise to appeal to [[ViewersAreMorons fifteen year old morons]].

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c} This causes a full-throated case of Sequelitis in the studio, due to the hope of making more money. Said sequels, unlike the original, ''will'' use the usual crowd-pleasing tropes mentioned above, as well as re-tooling the original film's premise to appeal to [[ViewersAreMorons fifteen year old morons]].
morons.
7th Feb '17 12:29:19 PM ZombieAladdin
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* Pretty prevalent among beer enthusiasts--it's as if the quality of the beer is inversely proportional to how much beer the company makes. Also, for the more hardcore cases, if the beer maker does so much as create an advertisement or license its name, the beer automatically becomes garbage--good beers spread through word-of-mouth alone.
28th Jan '17 12:57:16 AM petrus4
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a} An initial film (''Film/TheMatrix'' being a good example, as was ''Cube'') is released, which the releasing studio does not expect to be a mainstream success. Because the initial film is only expected to appeal to a niche audience, the storyline will often be more intelligent than usual, and the producers very often won't resort to the usual cheap gimmicks (excessive [[Fanservice nudity]] or Michael Bay-like explosions unless those are genuinely in context with the storyline, etc) which are intended to draw in large audiences.

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a} An initial film (''Film/TheMatrix'' being a good example, as was ''Cube'') is released, which the releasing studio does not expect to be a mainstream success. Because the initial film is only expected to appeal to a niche audience, the storyline will often be more intelligent than usual, and the producers very often won't resort to the usual cheap gimmicks (excessive [[Fanservice [[FanService nudity]] or Michael Bay-like explosions unless those are genuinely in context with the storyline, etc) which are intended to draw in large audiences.
28th Jan '17 12:56:00 AM petrus4
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To the extent that this trope ''is'' true, it will usually be as a result of the non-lethal form of TheFireflyEffect, where the studio are trying to boost ratings.

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To the extent that this trope ''is'' true, it will usually be as a result of the non-lethal form of TheFireflyEffect, where the studio are trying to boost ratings.
ratings. There is one other way in which this trope can legitimately manifest, as well.

a} An initial film (''Film/TheMatrix'' being a good example, as was ''Cube'') is released, which the releasing studio does not expect to be a mainstream success. Because the initial film is only expected to appeal to a niche audience, the storyline will often be more intelligent than usual, and the producers very often won't resort to the usual cheap gimmicks (excessive [[Fanservice nudity]] or Michael Bay-like explosions unless those are genuinely in context with the storyline, etc) which are intended to draw in large audiences.

b} Because of said film's unusual degree of artistic integrity, it will become far more popular than the studio anticipated.

c} This causes a full-throated case of Sequelitis in the studio, due to the hope of making more money. Said sequels, unlike the original, ''will'' use the usual crowd-pleasing tropes mentioned above, as well as re-tooling the original film's premise to appeal to [[ViewersAreMorons fifteen year old morons]].
26th Jan '17 8:09:31 PM capthanos
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* Even the most popular manga, ''Manga/OnePiece,'' has fallen subject to this. Some feel that it has gone on for far too long, and that because of its popularity, it may not come to an end anytime soon.



** The ''Franchise/KingdomHearts'' series is also getting people calling it "overrated" or worse without much explanation as to why other than its popularity.

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** The ''Franchise/KingdomHearts'' series is also getting people calling it "overrated" or worse without much explanation as to why other than its popularity. While there are some people who don't explain, a few JRPG fans are upset that ''Kingdom Hearts'' is taking the spotlight away from more traditional JRPGs that they love.
24th Jan '17 6:12:39 AM modgethanc
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* The {{Goth}} and [[EmoTeen Emo]] subcultures. Aside from suffering from being TheNewRockAndRoll, after that stigma had passed, these groups are made fun of by outsiders who hate how surprisingly expansive they've become. Goths get targeted for being either perpetually [[TheEeyore sad]]/[[GrumpyBear angry]] or [[ObviouslyEvil openly]] [[AxCrazy psychotic]] (the latter of which stemming from crimes incorrectly attributed to goths). Emos are attacked for having a similar aesthetic, but being infinitely [[{{Wangst}} whinier]]. There's also the stereotype that teenagers turn to these subcultures as a result of teen angst, and that these are just a phase. The fact that stores like Hot Topic specialize in merchandise appealing to these groups doesn't help.

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* The {{Goth}} and [[EmoTeen Emo]] subcultures. Aside from suffering from being TheNewRockAndRoll, after that stigma had passed, these groups are made fun of by outsiders who hate how surprisingly expansive they've become. Goths get targeted for being either perpetually [[TheEeyore sad]]/[[GrumpyBear angry]] or [[ObviouslyEvil openly]] [[AxCrazy psychotic]] violent]] (the latter of which stemming from crimes incorrectly attributed to goths). Emos are attacked for having a similar aesthetic, but being infinitely [[{{Wangst}} whinier]]. There's also the stereotype that teenagers turn to these subcultures as a result of teen angst, and that these are just a phase. The fact that stores like Hot Topic specialize in merchandise appealing to these groups doesn't help.
9th Jan '17 5:27:08 PM nombretomado
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* Ask an art historian what s/he thinks of LeonardoDaVinci or any other [[TheRenaissance Renaissance]] master.

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* Ask an art historian what s/he thinks of LeonardoDaVinci Creator/LeonardoDaVinci or any other [[TheRenaissance Renaissance]] master.



* ''{{Deadpool}}'' has been gaining lots of popularity ever since Wade Wilson's short appearance in ''Film/XMenOriginsWolverine'', so popular he had several titles running concurrently at one point, and was featured on almost every variant cover for the week of 27th Feb 2010. [[WolverinePublicity This caused a backlash from some original fans, who hated Marvel making him into the "next Wolverine"]].

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* ''{{Deadpool}}'' ''SelfDemonstrating/{{Deadpool}}'' has been gaining lots of popularity ever since Wade Wilson's short appearance in ''Film/XMenOriginsWolverine'', so popular he had several titles running concurrently at one point, and was featured on almost every variant cover for the week of 27th Feb 2010. [[WolverinePublicity This caused a backlash from some original fans, who hated Marvel making him into the "next Wolverine"]].
8th Jan '17 8:27:40 PM Satakieli
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** Within the fandom itself, there are a number of first-wave Bronies who have withdrawn from the show since Season 2, because supposedly TheyChangedItNowItSucks.

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** Within the fandom itself, there are a number of first-wave Bronies who have withdrawn from the show since Season 2, because supposedly TheyChangedItNowItSucks.
2nd Jan '17 9:53:11 AM HasturHasturHastur
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In some cases, it's not an unreasonable complaint if the quality of the work begins to suffer as a result of the artist's popularity. If the artist begins to squander their talent or water down what made it interesting to make it acceptable to the LowestCommonDenominator, or PanderingToTheBase rather than expanding themselves as artists in the process, then it's not unreasonable that the fans might start crying foul. Likewise, if the artist becomes a [[SmallNameBigEgo raging egomaniacal]] [[PrimaDonnaDirector tool]] who believes that they can [[ArtistDisillusionment treat their fans like dirt]] and [[ProtectionFromEditors don't need to listen to their critics or higher ups]], things might go downhill fast. Perhaps their fame will rise [[ArtistDisillusionment beyond a level they can cope with]]. Perhaps MisaimedFandom will become an issue if the new crop of fans fundamentally misses the point of the work and latches on for all the wrong reasons. On another, more subjective note, the popularity and acclaim of an actually solid artist or work may rise to hyperbolic, unwarranted heights, which can have a negative effect if [[HypeBacklash the hype cannot possibly match the reality]]. Where live performances are involved, larger, less intimate venues will generally be required - perhaps a situation in which the performers donít come across so well - and audience demographics may change, the newcomers behaving differently to the older fans, causing an overall change in atmosphere. And finally, some things ''are'' better in small doses, in which case the last thing you want is to be [[WolverinePublicity over-exposed to it]].

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In some cases, it's not an unreasonable complaint if the quality of the work begins to suffer as a result of the artist's popularity. If the artist begins to squander their talent or water down what made it interesting to make it acceptable to the LowestCommonDenominator, or PanderingToTheBase rather than expanding themselves as artists in the process, then it's not unreasonable that the fans might start crying foul. Likewise, if the artist becomes a [[SmallNameBigEgo raging egomaniacal]] [[PrimaDonnaDirector tool]] who believes that they can [[ArtistDisillusionment treat their fans like dirt]] and [[ProtectionFromEditors don't need to listen to their critics or higher ups]], things might go downhill fast. Perhaps their fame will rise [[ArtistDisillusionment beyond a level they can cope with]]. Perhaps MisaimedFandom will become an issue if the new crop of fans fundamentally misses the point of the work and latches on for all the wrong reasons. On another, more subjective note, the popularity and acclaim of an actually solid artist or work may rise to hyperbolic, unwarranted heights, which can have a negative effect if [[HypeBacklash the hype cannot possibly match the reality]]. Where live performances are involved, larger, less intimate venues will generally be required - perhaps a situation in which the performers donít come across so well - and audience demographics may change, the newcomers behaving differently to the older fans, causing an overall change in atmosphere. Production values may also change - acts who rely on a more stripped-down, raw aesthetic may wind up switching to a cleaner, more polished production style, which can be a jarring shift that very well may be incongruous with the work's style. And finally, some things ''are'' better in small doses, in which case the last thing you want is to be [[WolverinePublicity over-exposed to it]].
31st Dec '16 8:32:20 PM overman2099
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* Like fellow indie-wrestlers-turned-WWE-superstars CM Punk and Daniel Bryan before him, Dean Ambrose has seen a very similar reaction. When he debuted in The Shield and went on to have his solo career, Ambrose could do no wrong in the eyes of the fans, especially the IWC. After Daniel Bryan, Ambrose pretty much had the second biggest amount of grassroots support from fans imaginable and seemingly almost everybody wanted him to become WWE champion. After he finally won the WWE Championship from Seth Rollins, however, a lot of fans have turned on him for a variety of reasons, whether it's accusing him of becoming complacent on the top or accusing him of being a really limited wrestler in the ring. Ambrose himself, on the other hand, doesn't seem to mind people turning on him too much because as he told Ziggler in a promo, anybody who becomes world champion had better have ice water running through their veins in order to put up with all the doubters and nay-sayers.

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* Like fellow indie-wrestlers-turned-WWE-superstars CM Punk and Daniel Bryan before him, Dean Ambrose DeanAmbrose has seen a very similar reaction. When he debuted in The Shield and went on to have his solo career, Ambrose could do no wrong in the eyes of the fans, especially the IWC. After Daniel Bryan, Ambrose pretty much had the second biggest amount of grassroots support from fans imaginable and seemingly almost everybody wanted him to become WWE champion. After he finally won the WWE Championship from Seth Rollins, however, a lot of fans have turned on him for a variety of reasons, whether it's accusing him of becoming complacent on the top or accusing him of being a really limited wrestler in the ring. Ambrose himself, on the other hand, doesn't seem to mind people turning on him too much because as he told Ziggler in a promo, anybody who becomes world champion had better have ice water running through their veins in order to put up with all the doubters and nay-sayers.
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