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20th Jul '16 6:16:08 PM Vovka
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* Music/MyChemicalRomance. People have said this about all of their last three albums; ''Three Cheers for Sweet Revenge,'' ''The Black Parade,'' and ''Danger Days.''
** Even before ''Three Cheers'' was put out, when they signed to Reprise. The album didn't even have to be made yet for [[FanDumb people]] to start calling out this trope.
** On the other hand, each album receives a better score among most music critics than the last one. Depending on the magazine/website, ''I Brought You My Bullets, You Brought Me Your Love'' scored between 2.5 and 4 on 5, ''Three Cheers for Sweet Revenge'' scored between 3 and 4 on 5, ''The Black Parade'' between 3 and 5 on 5 and ''Danger Days'' between 3.5 and 5 on 5. Their [[FanDumb fans]] may think they're sellouts, or they changed, but they're mostly having fun with their music style, and critics like it.'
* Although not as bad as most examples, Nate Ruess of Fun. suffered this with his mainstream hits "We Are Young" and "Some Nights", and there was a lot of HypeBacklash against him because of his band being a hit at the 2013 Grammys. Many of the detractors came from fans of his original band, The Format. Most of the hate has died down since.



* {{Paramore}}
** They did a song for the first ''Literature/{{Twilight}}'' film and they now have merchandise at Hot Topic, getting them this treatment. Unfortunate considering how talented they actually are.
** The album ''Brand New Eyes'' mostly cured things, with a lot of fans and critics alike considering it their best album. And other than "[[BlackSheepHit The Only Exception]]", it got no mainstream attention at all, so even better.
** And now they have put themselves back in the rut with their fourth SelfTitledAlbum. It was bad enough that they shifted to cheerful, energetic pop rock from their angsty, emo, PopPunk style, but the fact that "Still Into You" and "Ain't it Fun" being pop hits because of that has not been received by their established fans.
19th Jul '16 8:04:29 PM mlsmithca
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** But then... ElderScrollsOnline came out, AndTheFandomRejoiced!

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** But then... ElderScrollsOnline ''VideoGame/ElderScrollsOnline'' came out, AndTheFandomRejoiced!out.
19th Jul '16 2:02:21 PM DarkastKiller
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** But then... ElderScrollsOnline came out, AndTheFandomRejoiced!
17th Jul '16 10:42:13 AM nombretomado
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* The general consensus on 4chan is that you can tell a {{meme|ticMutation}} has run its course when it's mentioned by a news source. Most memes which the general public knows about (ChuckNorris facts, WebOriginal/LOLCats, [[OverNineThousand OVER 9000]], {{Rickroll}}ing, {{All Your Base|AreBelongToUs}}) inspire little but groan from the average poster. However, this is somewhat justified, since 1. Memes are jokes, and these people have seen the joke everywhere by this point, and 2. Memes are usually fads, and other media usually only find out about them long after the fad has run its course.

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* The general consensus on 4chan is that you can tell a {{meme|ticMutation}} has run its course when it's mentioned by a news source. Most memes which the general public knows about (ChuckNorris facts, (Website/ChuckNorrisFacts, WebOriginal/LOLCats, [[OverNineThousand OVER 9000]], {{Rickroll}}ing, {{All Your Base|AreBelongToUs}}) inspire little but groan from the average poster. However, this is somewhat justified, since 1. Memes are jokes, and these people have seen the joke everywhere by this point, and 2. Memes are usually fads, and other media usually only find out about them long after the fad has run its course.
16th Jul '16 12:07:05 PM Anddrix
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** It should be noted that there were fans who accused the band of selling out when they signed to Warner Bros and released the ballad Under The Bridge way back in 1991, even though most of its parent album Blood Sugar Sex Magik was a continuation (and possibly even improvement) of their old sound. Had internet forums been around back then, there would have been a lot of this sort of debate on it. Even more so in the Californication and By The Way periods which were full of introspective ballads(One Hot Minute escaped this trope largely because it was not a massive radio success). By The Way in particular is the ultimate BaseBreaker for the band, something they readily acknowledged with the rockier single Fortune Faded (itself a rerecorded By The Way outtake) and the more funk-based album Stadium Arcadium. The band has sunk in popularity with their latest album I'm With You and its singles series, indicating that they might be becoming a cult band again.

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** It should be noted that there were fans who accused the band of selling out when they signed to Warner Bros and released the ballad Under The Bridge way back in 1991, even though most of its parent album Blood Sugar Sex Magik was a continuation (and possibly even improvement) of their old sound. Had internet forums been around back then, there would have been a lot of this sort of debate on it. Even more so in the Californication and By The Way periods which were full of introspective ballads(One Hot Minute escaped this trope largely because it was not a massive radio success). By The Way in particular is the ultimate BaseBreaker incredibly divisive for the band, something they readily acknowledged with the rockier single Fortune Faded (itself a rerecorded By The Way outtake) and the more funk-based album Stadium Arcadium. The band has sunk in popularity with their latest album I'm With You and its singles series, indicating that they might be becoming a cult band again.



** Let us all remember of the BaseBreaker fact: what many considered intricate controlling - wavedashing, the most famous case - was a technique that even the makers thought it would bring a nice differential to the game, back in the ''Melee'' days. But the mastering of said techniques were spreading a huge gap between the hardcore players, those playing for fun, [[MyFriendsAndZoidberg and the casuals]] in the metagame. [[FanDumb It was the very rivalry between these groups getting out of hand in the communities that got those techniques removed from Brawl onwards]].

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** Let us all remember of the BaseBreaker divisive fact: what many considered intricate controlling - wavedashing, the most famous case - was a technique that even the makers thought it would bring a nice differential to the game, back in the ''Melee'' days. But the mastering of said techniques were spreading a huge gap between the hardcore players, those playing for fun, [[MyFriendsAndZoidberg and the casuals]] in the metagame. [[FanDumb It was the very rivalry between these groups getting out of hand in the communities that got those techniques removed from Brawl onwards]].
15th Jul '16 12:06:41 AM Dcoetzee
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In some cases, it's not an unreasonable complaint if the quality of the work begins to suffer as a result of the artist's popularity. If the artist begins to squander their talent or water down what made it interesting to make it acceptable to the LowestCommonDenominator, or PanderingToTheBase rather than expanding themselves as artists in the process, then it's not unreasonable that the fans might start crying foul. Likewise, if the artist becomes a [[SmallNameBigEgo raging egomaniacal]][[PrimaDonnaDirector tool]] who believes that they can [[ArtistDisillusionment treat their fans like dirt]] and [[ProtectionFromEditors don't need to listen to their critics or higher ups]], things might go downhill fast. Perhaps their fame will rise [[ArtistDisillusionment beyond a level they can cope with]]. On another, more subjective note, the popularity and acclaim of an actually solid artist or work may rise to hyperbolic, unwarranted heights, which can have a negative effect if [[HypeBacklash the hype cannot possibly match the reality]]. Where live performances are involved, larger, less intimate venues will generally be required - perhaps a situation in which the performers donít come across so well - and audience demographics may change, the newcomers behaving differently to the older fans, causing an overall change in atmosphere. And finally, some things ''are'' better in small doses, in which case the last thing you want is to be [[WolverinePublicity over-exposed to it]].

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In some cases, it's not an unreasonable complaint if the quality of the work begins to suffer as a result of the artist's popularity. If the artist begins to squander their talent or water down what made it interesting to make it acceptable to the LowestCommonDenominator, or PanderingToTheBase rather than expanding themselves as artists in the process, then it's not unreasonable that the fans might start crying foul. Likewise, if the artist becomes a [[SmallNameBigEgo raging egomaniacal]][[PrimaDonnaDirector egomaniacal]] [[PrimaDonnaDirector tool]] who believes that they can [[ArtistDisillusionment treat their fans like dirt]] and [[ProtectionFromEditors don't need to listen to their critics or higher ups]], things might go downhill fast. Perhaps their fame will rise [[ArtistDisillusionment beyond a level they can cope with]]. On another, more subjective note, the popularity and acclaim of an actually solid artist or work may rise to hyperbolic, unwarranted heights, which can have a negative effect if [[HypeBacklash the hype cannot possibly match the reality]]. Where live performances are involved, larger, less intimate venues will generally be required - perhaps a situation in which the performers donít come across so well - and audience demographics may change, the newcomers behaving differently to the older fans, causing an overall change in atmosphere. And finally, some things ''are'' better in small doses, in which case the last thing you want is to be [[WolverinePublicity over-exposed to it]].
8th Jul '16 2:45:30 AM AsasinChaos
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** Then there's a sizeable percentage of those complaining about the "Dumbening" whose range from the understandable complaints[[note]]Armors and outfits becoming less and less modular and customizable, spells and enchantments dwindling in numbers and variety, abandonment of mechanics like birthsigns (which granted passive bonuses and railroaded the status growths into a class archetype) and so on[[/note]] to unreasonable cryouts, like emulating the gigantic map of Daggerfall in the recent games. That is, a world map of 161,600 km
in size, roughly the size of Great Britain according to the OtherWiki. [[SarcasmMode Certainly a reasonable thing for reconstructing in the same detail with nowadays' standards...!]]

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** Then there's a sizeable percentage of those complaining about the "Dumbening" whose range from the understandable complaints[[note]]Armors and outfits becoming less and less modular and customizable, spells and enchantments dwindling in numbers and variety, abandonment of mechanics like birthsigns (which granted passive bonuses and railroaded the status growths into a class archetype) and so on[[/note]] to unreasonable cryouts, like emulating the gigantic map of Daggerfall in the recent games. That is, a world map of 161,600 km
km in size, roughly the size of Great Britain according to the OtherWiki. [[SarcasmMode Certainly a reasonable thing for reconstructing in the same detail with nowadays' standards...!]]
3rd Jul '16 7:29:51 PM nombretomado
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* Some people have claimed that this has happened to ''Franchise/{{BIONICLE}}'', despite the fact that the line is only marginally more successful than when it started. This stems from the belief that the repetitive design of their recent sets is because they're pandering to their, newer, younger audience, even though these claims come from people in their late teens, early twenties while the series is labeled as ages 7-16. You will constantly see topics like "Is Bionicle Selling Out?" on the forums for popular fansite BZPower.com, which are constantly getting squished out by the, thankfully, more intelligent majority.

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* Some people have claimed that this has happened to ''Franchise/{{BIONICLE}}'', ''Toys/{{BIONICLE}}'', despite the fact that the line is only marginally more successful than when it started. This stems from the belief that the repetitive design of their recent sets is because they're pandering to their, newer, younger audience, even though these claims come from people in their late teens, early twenties while the series is labeled as ages 7-16. You will constantly see topics like "Is Bionicle Selling Out?" on the forums for popular fansite BZPower.com, which are constantly getting squished out by the, thankfully, more intelligent majority.
3rd Jul '16 7:02:28 PM DirtyBeigeBoy
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* Justified for dog breeds. As demand increases, breeding increases which leads to more inbreeding and genetic problems also leads to less responsible breeding and puppy mills.
26th Jun '16 12:28:03 PM BillyMT
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** Then there's a sizeable percentage of those complaining about the "Dumbening" whose range from the understandable complaints[[note]]Armors and outfits becoming less and less modular and customizable, spells and enchantments dwindling in numbers and variety, abandonment of mechanics like birthsigns (which granted passive bonuses and railroaded the status growths into a class archetype) and so on[[/note]] to unreasonable cryouts, like emulating the gigantic map of Daggerfall in the recent games. That is, a world map of 161,600 km
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