None yet; Flash, Indy, and Elemental are all still in their theatrical runs.
Nah. More than doubled its production budget in the theatrical window. An underperformance, yes, and potentially a minor flop, but not a bomb.
I've been going through the lists over the last few days, cleaning up grammar/phrasing, updating information, and removing multiple examples of Presumed Flop (often where the numbers listed and even description point out that the movie made over twice its budget back).
I think it's an improvement, but I also believe that the definition of the page needs to be revamped. As old comments here point out, there are a lot of microbudget movies listed that shouldn't be considered bombs. If a movie costs under $10 million in today's money, it's probably just looking to land on a streamer to get its money back, and anything it makes in a limited theatrical run is just icing on the cake for a small investment.
I just wanted to check before tweaking the page definition to constitute major investments (maybe $50 million in 2023 money) that fell well short in the theatrical window and cost tens of millions... i.e. an actual bomb bomb, not just a neutral ROI.
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Can I remove "Limited Releases" as a qualifier for this? They literally aren't meant to even make their budget back if they're particularly expensive.
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Yeah, don’t most indies/Oscar bait-type films open in limited release? So all of those films qualify as bombs? The rubric here is..a choice.
The S through Z section has gotten too big. Shall we divide it in half?
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Can I remove "Limited Releases" as a qualifier for this? They literally aren't meant to even make their budget back if they're particularly expensive.
I should probably be doing something else with my life.
Can I remove "Limited Releases" as a qualifier for this? They literally aren't meant to even make their budget back if they're particularly expensive.
I should probably be doing something else with my life.
Okay, does anyone think this entire topic is getting too negative for the wiki? I think maybe we should trim some of the entries down, if not outright cut all wording after the box office totals.
I'll wait to see what comes up.
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I think not. It's important to know the details of why various movies flopped and what effects those flops had.
Maybe so, but I also think it could be made a bit more neutral than it is right now.
Okay, I'm thinking of trimming down some of the walls of text entries, and maybe taking this to the Trope Repair Shop. What say you?
So, you think The Hateful Eight should be added to this list?
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Why? With a budget of 54 million and a box office of 155.7 million it didn't exactly lose money
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It didn't fare too well in the United States.
I understand that for some reason, Tim Burton's Batman took a $36 million write-down thanks to Hollywood Accounting. Should I list that as a bomb?
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Batman is in no way, shape or form a bomb. Creative accounting is irrelevant in this case, as the film made several hundreds of millions more than its production cost.
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While we're on the subject of Batman, should Batman & Robin be listed here? Budget is $125 million, gross is $238.2 million ($107 million domestically). It didn't reach the break even point of double the budget.
Minor detail to avoid a minor Edit War (I don't think this change is worth a fuss at all, but I'm asking anyway), which should we use. Someone put sucks, and someone else replaced it with blows.
Okay, should we consider TMNT: Out of the Shadows a flop?
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I'd hold off. It's not doing well, I'll give you that. But bomb? Not likely. It's almost made its budget back in under two weeks.
So chances are it'll make money by month's end. So it wouldn't really count. Underperforming isn't the same as bombing.
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About the stuff jameygamer added to Kundun, I think the problems China had with the film wasn't about it being a Box Office Bomb but because it was about a Tibetian Lama
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I would say go for it since it made enough to get a sequel, but I may be wrong
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I've read the premise to Not Fade Away, and it sounds like an Alienating Cliché Storm.
Thar be flabbergasting!
Would Pacific Rim fall under this? According to the Internet Movie Database, it cost $190 million to produce (not including marketing) and has so far made back $101 million internationally. I notice it's in Acclaimed Flop though.
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Could someone please define what the article means by "other countries don't exist"?
Should we really list anything which didn't do well domestically as a bomb? I've seen a couple of movies in this list whose status as a bomb is...rather questionable, to say the least.
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Not only that, but U.S./Canada is only "domestic" to the United States! I'd dearly love to see more movies from off the continent myself, including material that was unsuccessful in its own homeland.
Which films of the widely publicized 2023 blockbuster "bombs" qualify here?
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