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TytanHavok
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06:27:09 PM Sep 11th 2013
Under "Turns Red" a cheat for Digital Devil Saga 1 (That supposedly lets you choose any skill in the game's script) is mentioned, but when I look on google about it, nothing relevant comes up.

So, what i'm asking is.. Does this thing even exist?
CainegMord
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11:46:36 PM Oct 2nd 2012
Could someone make a "MAJIN TENSEI page? I have some tropes for it but I don't understand how to make new pages.
Materioptikon
07:08:54 PM Oct 10th 2013
Done.
Silverevilchao
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12:03:15 AM Jun 24th 2011
Why is Catherine linked on this page? It's not a Mega Ten game. It doesn't even have "Shin Megami Tensei" added to its US title like the other Mega Ten games.

If no one comes up with a good reason, I'm going to take it off the list. It makes no sense, like linking every Square Enix title on the main Final Fantasy page.
ashlay
02:41:40 PM Aug 23rd 2011
edited by ashlay
It has Astaroth/Ishtar in it. It involves supernatural phenomenon and demons in general. It has a Law/Neutral/Chaos Alignment system that affects your ending.

There are various references to Persona 3 and Persona 4 in the game. There's music from Nocturne, Persona 3 & 4 and DDS 1 & 2 in it. It makes a cameo of it's own in Persona 3 Portable.

Atlus USA's decision to attach Shin Megami Tensei for name recognition purposes is a questionable justification. The creators of these games don't consider Persona, Digital Devil Saga: Avatar Tuner, Devil Survivor and so on to be Shin Megami Tensei games, and in fact they don't feature the "Shin Megami Tensei" label on those games' materials at all in the original Japanese releases.

In short, if we're going to include all those other non-SMT games on the list, I don't see why we shouldn't include a game that features similar themes, similar characters, and on top of that straight out references to other Mega Ten titles. Isn't it of value to let people know that this game has connections to the series?
VentusKnight
07:54:38 PM Aug 23rd 2011
Demikids for the GBA doesn't contain the Shin Megami Tensei prefix either, yet are part of the series. The only difference in Catherine's sake is that it's not an RPG of any kind.
ashlay
06:03:46 PM Aug 24th 2011
edited by ashlay
Yep, Demikids actually is a part of the Shin Megami Tensei series. The original title for that line is "Shin Megami Tensei: Devil Children" with the two games that became Demikids featuring the subtitles "Book of Darkness" and "Book of Light".

Again, Atlus USA's choice of names is a poor criteria.
Prfnoff
06:37:27 PM Jun 4th 2012
The original Japanese release of Strange Journey did have the Shin Megami Tensei prefix. That is why I moved it to VideoGame.Shin Megami Tensei Strange Journey.
ashlay
06:27:19 AM Jun 8th 2012
edited by ashlay
In development it was actually SMT IV, but evenutally they changed their mind about the title for various reasons. Be funny if the new SMT IV got its name changed too, and they just keep designing a new SMT IV every few years.

Mistermister
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12:32:59 PM Jan 1st 2011
Can't we change the laconic page for this series? I mean, there's much more to this series than the difficulty.
etliay
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11:28:28 PM Apr 7th 2010
We should have an :IMAGINE page.
BOXN
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12:30:09 PM Mar 21st 2010
How can you get Loki or Joan of Arc in SMT 3?
Materioptikon
12:12:59 PM Jan 8th 2012
Jean of Arc doesn't appear in Nocturne. Loki comes as a Tyrant Race demon. Easiest fusion recipe would involve a Fury Race demon and a Vile Race one; try several combinations.
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