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bookworm11 Since: Oct, 2014
Jun 8th 2018 at 4:35:34 PM •••

Does this apply to characters like Anna who actively seek companionship? I got the idea from the trope description page that it was more about introverts.

  • Loners Are Freaks: Subverted. Anna was sheltered and spent much of her time alone and she does come off as a little bit wacky at times, but surprisingly, she has rather good social skills considering her isolation from other people since her childhood.

annette12 Since: May, 2013
Sep 23rd 2017 at 5:57:34 PM •••

Are Anna and Elsa an example of Beast and Beauty or just misuse? This is a romantic trope and one of the two characters, usually the male, is supposed to be beast-looking (see trope description).

There's also this esample:

  • The Glorious War of Sisterly Rivalry: Anna is considered to be "The Beautiful Sister" as she is extroverted, popular, sociable, friendly, and constantly criticizes Elsa for shutting her out. On the other hand, Elsa is "The Smart Sister" as she is bookish, introverted, sensitive, socially awkward and often judges Anna for being too reckless, impulsive and naive. Although Anna and Elsa don't fight constantly, they have a very estranged relationship due to unfortunate circumstances that happened during their childhood. Anna also has a habit of lashing out at Elsa for shutting her out repeatedly while Elsa repeatedly tries to push Anna away out of fear of hurting her again.

There's no war or rivalry between them. Anna is not "considered to be "The Beautiful Sister" since they are equally beautiful and no one talks about Anna's beauty or "popularity" (according to this example here). The only contrast I see is that Elsa is more introverted but it's more a Red Oni, Blue Oni, I don't think there's a Beautiful Sister/Smart Sister contrast. this is not the point of the movie

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MsCC93 Since: May, 2012
Sep 24th 2017 at 10:42:39 AM •••

Both tropes obviously looks like shoehorning. There has been no signs of rivalry between the two.

Hvedekorn Since: Nov, 2010
Sep 24th 2017 at 12:09:54 PM •••

My two cents:

Beast and Beauty obviously doesn't belong. It's about lovers, and lovers only (the description doesn't say anything like "it mostly applies to couples, but can also apply to friends"), and despite any Incest Yay Shipping that fans like to bring upon Anna and Elsa, they're platonic sisters in the canon.

The Glorious War of Sisterly Rivalry - while I don't have the movie in perfectly clear memory, it seems like shoehorning. Anna and Elsa surely have some Sibling Yin-Yang going on (though they also have several similarities), but differences don't necessarily lead to rivalry. Anna's lashing out and Elsa's pushing away didn't have anything to do with rivalry IIRC - they were not trying to compete against other. Rivals like to compete and try to surpass each other, but Anna and Elsa only ever wanted to get along without tension or danger, but circumstances prevented them from doing so, and as such the conflicts arose.

Edit: Hiddenelastic just added some new tropes that are so obviously shoehorning that I don't think they warrant any discussion. I'm gonna remove them and give him/her a heads up.

Edited by Hvedekorn
bookworm11 Since: Oct, 2014
Jun 1st 2018 at 8:18:03 PM •••

Does this apply to Elsa? She's clearly stressed about taking her gloves off during her coronation, but seems to know how to talk to people just as well as Anna does. The only time when we really see her talking to people besides Anna and their parents is the Duke of Weselton, who she seems to manage well enough.

  • No Social Skills: Due to being shut up in her castle most of her life and only communicating with her parents and occasionally Anna. When it came time to be crowned, one can tell she feels rather awkward around everyone. And an argument with Anna certainly didn't help matters. She does manage a regal bearing, since that requires constraint and control anyway.

DragonQuestZ Since: Jan, 2001
Jun 1st 2018 at 9:12:20 PM •••

Yeah, that never seemed right. I would remove it.

I'm on the internet. My arguments are invalid.
LB7979 Since: Apr, 2016
Jun 2nd 2018 at 1:40:40 AM •••

No, doesn't apply. She's anxious about losing control over her ice powers and what they might do if that happens (understandably—look how disastrous it is for Arendelle when this does indeed happen in the film), not about interacting socially with other people in the first place, which like you say, she manages well.

bookworm11 Since: Oct, 2014
May 31st 2018 at 8:26:58 PM •••

Does rolling her eyes count as a character tic? I only remember her doing it once.

  • Character Tics:
    • She rolls her eyes when she's impatient (when Anna keeps stalling to tell her what happened in Arendelle).

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bookworm11 Since: Oct, 2014
May 29th 2018 at 7:46:22 PM •••

Can Anna be considered either a Morality Chain or a Morality Pet for Elsa? The only moment I can think of when Elsa seems to face temptation to got to The Dark Side is when she's fighting against the Weselton men, but Anna's not around for that.

  • Morality Chain: Anna is pretty much the major reason why Elsa doesn't completely lose control of her powers and cause harm to others. It is Anna's love for Elsa that basically keeps Elsa grounded and prevents her from going to The Dark Side and becoming Drunk with Power. And while the description for the second entry seems accurate to the movie, I don't think it fits the trope.
  • Morality Pet: Anna's presence is what causes Elsa to go through Character Development, such as coming out of isolation, letting go of her fears, and learning to control her powers. Basically, if Anna wasn't around, Elsa would have eventually lost control of her powers, go mentally insane and would stay in isolation and solitude for the rest of her life.

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