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Daefaroth Since: Jan, 2014
16th Dec, 2017 04:45:11 AM

You are using that trope wrong. The Tape Knew You Would Say That is specifically for in-universe situations. If a programmer is able to accurately predict how a player is going to react that is likely Developer's Foresight and / or Intended Audience Reaction. The situation is also specifically Controllable Helplessness.

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GastonRabbit MOD (General of TV Troops)
16th Dec, 2017 05:43:54 AM

While YMMV tropes can be used in-universe, only YMMV tropes can go on YMMV pages.

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GnomeTitan Since: Aug, 2013
16th Dec, 2017 06:09:55 AM

That's not what "subjective" means. A trope which only appears if the player performs certain actions can still be objective.

Think of it this way: "It's an objective fact that if the player does certain things, the trope happens". All players who do those things experience the trope.

Subjective in thsi context would be that the player gets a certain impression of things or reacts in a certain way. This is subjective because it depends not on what the player does, but what they think, so not all players who do the same thing get the same reaction.

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WaterBlap Since: May, 2014
16th Dec, 2017 08:43:30 AM

Another way to think about it would be that every work would have every trope in its YMMV/ page if objective tropes were allowed on those pages. It would just artificially inflate the number of wicks, which is never helpful.

Moreover, if it is your opinion that X trope is in the work, then you should be able to explain how that trope is present in the work. If you have to rely on the fact that it's "just your opinion," then it probably is not actually present in the work the way you're saying it is. You'll want to use Trope Finder to find a more accurate trope for the situation, and if we don't have it yet then you should use the Trope Launch Pad.

If the trope is actually present in the work, it should go on the normal works page or — if it applies to a particular character — on the Characters/ subpage.

That all said, the Countdown ending is already listed on the page as Boss Battle and Red Herring. It might also be a trope where the game parodies common gaming patterns (like the fact there will be a way for the player to solve the problem if the game presents the player with a problem), but I'm not sure.

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MyFinalEdits (Ten years in the joint)
16th Dec, 2017 08:43:36 AM

Regular tropes cannot be added in YMMV or Trivia, nor the other way around unless they're played In-Universe. In the (fortunately rare) instances when someone does the improper addition, it's usually because the trope's incidence is being described as if it wasn't actually happening in the work itself, but through the viewer or audience. For example, a long time ago someone had added Perfectly Cromulent Word to the YMMV tab of Super Smash Bros., a non-YMMV trope, with the entry being that fans were using a non-existent word ("deconfirmed") in relation to the debunk of certain characters supposedly being in the game for 3DS and Wii U. Since the word itself didn't appear in the game, I removed the entry under the reasoning I'm explaining.

To summarize, it is not appropiate. In the particular case of your example, the trope is better added (and described with a context of objectivity, not YMMV) in the involved Let's Play articles.

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