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Wait, is this all coming from one person? The bit about "similar edits about Darth Vader" caught my attention.
[up [up] It seems to. The Vader entries are on Misaimed Marketing and YMMV.Star Wars,
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Hate Sink is only intentional examples, so if the second example is true, it shouldn't be listed under Hate Sink. (I don't actually know that much about Star Wars, so I don't know what's true. I do know that Kylo Ren is popular, though.)
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I'm not going to take a side here, but I will provide some insight.
It is true that the marketing presented him as a cool villain and a successor to Darth Vader. But in the film itself, it is presented differently. He is actively trying to be a successor to Darth Vader, but isn't there yet. The film portrays him as whiny and arrogant, and not in a likable way. Nobody in the film likes him except for Snoke and his parents. Poe can't even take him seriously when he confronts him. Kylo Ren's temper tantrums are also not meant to be taken seriously.
I can't say for certain whether he counts as a Hate Sink, but there is intention to making him a failure at being a Darth Vader Clone.
Kylo doesn't strike me as a Hate Sink - he's a villain who does some despicable things, and he has an irritating personality, but I think he's meant to at least seem redeemable.
The main Hate Sink article says it's a "character whose intended role in the story (the role the authors made for him/her) is to be so despicable that the audience wants him or her to fail...", often a secondary antagonist that "is typically found in stories that do not have a natural target for the audience's scorn."
Without some kind of Word of God, author intent is extremely difficult to determine. I seriously doubt that is true of Kylo Ren, but that's just, like, my opinion, man.
Becky: Who are you? The Mysterious Stranger: An angel. Huck: What's your name? The Mysterious Stranger: Satan.
If I come across a villain who has the Hate Sink trope applied to them, what I would do is compare them to Lady Tremaine from Cinderella, who, for all I know, is one of the most hated characters in fiction and was intended that way.
Kylo Ren may very well have crossed the Moral Event Horizon, but I don't think he compares to Tremaine, so I do not think he quite makes it to Hate Sink.
I've seen Kylo Ren on the HateSink.Live Action Films and the YMMV.The Force Awakens pages which describe him as a loser deconstruction of previous villains, but the same page also says that he was hyped up as a COOL villain and his reception as a loser by the fandom caught the marketers/writers off-guard. So given that I dunno if he should be there, especially since portions of the fandom do find him cool and likable.
(Similar edits about Darth Vader also say that he's the biggest example of Misaimed Marketing ever.)
Edited by lalalei2001