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Those are YMMV tropes, no? I don't see how a cracked writer's opinion is worth different than "some fans" opinions on tumblr.
To be honest, I've been wondering if someone has been adding the Cracked links on trope pages in order to generate traffic to that website
I don't see a problem in linking to Cracked articles, as I have seen Unfortunate Implications cite personal blogs before. But the latter two entries you posted should be rewritten, as it's not considered proper to argue with an entry within an entry.
^^^ YMMV has its limits though. An entry can't argue with itself and it needs to fit within the definition of what trope/reaction it is talking about.
Edited by SatoshiBakura
Unfortunate Implications require citations to another site on the web. I'm not sure if the website has to be unbiased or not, or how unbiased it can be, etc. Youd should ask the mods if there are any guidelines about that.
As I understand it the citation rule is literally just about providing proof that it's not just one troper with an axe to grind adding the example. It doesn't have to be at all credible, since examples are supposed to be more about documenting what's already out there than having this site itself provide an opinion.
I'd rewrite the "numero uno" part in the first example. Whether something being number 1 in a Cracked article is that important is heavily author dependent in my experience.
A link to Cracked articles is also a link to their comment sections -and there's a lot of readers and commentators, making it easy to make it clear it's not just one tropers with X opinion, however the article slants.
Coming back to where you started is not the same as never leaving. -Terry Pratchett
I don't think Cracked.com is a reliable source for Unfortunate Implications citations, for the simple reason that it's a humor site. When their articles appear to call out UI, the question one must ask is, "Do they mean it, or are they saying it with tongue in cheek?" Even with the accompanying comment sections, there's the possibility that people simply didn't get the joke.
More generally, the message to editors (commented out, visible only in Edit Mode or the source code) at the top of the UI page states that UI citations must demonstrate that "it's not just your own (or somebody else's) opinion." By that standard, personal blogs are not valid citation sources. I saw a statement somewhere that Tumblr is not a valid source for UI citations, and I seem to recall seeing a statement that citations should link to material from reputable organizations (which Cracked.com would be, if it's considered sufficiently reputable). In other words, citations must prove that the supposed UI isn't a fringe opinion.
Bigotry in the name of inclusion is still bigotry.
I've seen some entries link to Cracked to justify the entries, even though the views on Cracked are often slanted. For example this entry of Unfortunate Implications which could count but seems to be more of Fridge Horror than actually being offensive:
- Unfortunate Implications: Made Numero Uno on Cracked's "Five Lighthearted Movies with Dark Moral Implications."
Not only did humanity create A.I.s by accident, we created an entire Servant Race! It's the bad guy who is trying to liberate his people from humanity (and overthow them), and the good guys are arguably a case of Happiness in Slavery.
But sometimes, the entries with those links argue that what Cracked thinks is wrong.- Unfortunate Implications: Cracked.com had an article
arguing that the true messages of this movie are "the strong are strong, the weak are weak, and evil happens when you try to make the weak strong." They compared Syndrome's desire to give everyone super powers to technology being used to help the disabled. This is forgetting/ignoring both that Syndrome's evil plan was made out of spite for Mr. Incredible spurring him from being a sidekick, rather than the goodness of his heart, and that he would only distribute his technology when he was old and had spent years lording his own superiority.
This isn't restricted to Unfortunate Implications either.