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According to the article, it's already been used. The only way you can hurt anyone or anything with it is using it as a very ineffective club.

EDIT: Pagetopper

edited 27th Jan '15 5:25:06 PM by Krieger22

Stingers can be reloaded ya know. And you can replace the battery and get it serviceable again.

Problem is, it's hella expensive and hard to do owing to severe controls on how to get that stuff. The missile alone is like 76,000 dollars without the launcher. (And weighs 22 lbs.)

edited 27th Jan '15 5:41:11 PM by MajorTom

That does indeed look like the main launch unit. Someone may be in trouble depending on circumstances. While you can't legally own a functional or potentially functional launcher if it has been demilled as a collector piece it could be legal provided there is paper work for it. It would need batteries and a missile to work.

The IFF Interrogator is also needed in addition to the battery and coolant.

Well if you don't want to cause friendly fire anyways. Stingers are perfectly capable of locking onto and firing on targets without it. They just won't discriminate between friend and foe.

True enough. Double checked and the battery and coolant are all in one part called the BCU. So if you have the battery you also have coolant in it.

edited 27th Jan '15 7:23:03 PM by TuefelHundenIV

I'm trying to think who would have jurisdiction if that Stinger thing ever led to a criminal investigation and subsequent prosecution for having a fucking anti-air missile launcher. The military chain of command of the person who stole the thing must have some say on the matter - assuming as I do that that launcher has a label on it with serial numbers, and the US armed forces having a register of said serial numbers.

But who's on next?

They would find out where it came from and follow the chain from there. If possible to get a time frame from when it left wherever it could encompass a lot of people.

Before you guys freak out:

• The Stinger needs batteries, a working control unit and a live missile.

• Both the missile and the batteries have a shelf life.

It was probably a training unit or a used one "lost" when various SHROAD units deactivated. CID will get involved, but it's not the first time this has happened.

Units have lost inert or spent LAW tubes, AT-4 tubes, an entire M-2 .50 was found rusted under a bridge near Fort Lewis. Once an Air Force unit lost a "box" full of M-4 carbines (they were later recovered).

Yeah, and what if it WAS a real, live-fire version of the Stinger that went walkabout from a US base? I have to tell you this, if it was over here and it was found out about, you would hear the noise of the subsequent police/secret squirrel investigation from fucking Mars. I'm not sure that it would be much different in the States tbh.

Taira: From the looks of it the only thing it was missing was the missile and the CBU. It has the full trigger assembly and the rest of the kit to work. I mean the nice pic has the lot and serial number in plain view.

Guns as designed by 4chan

Might just be the slight buzz I've got going on but I found it all hilarious.

Scope knife...why am I reminded of Battlefield Friends?

Midnight Brain Rattlings. I have already acquired an airsoft SPAS with a short barrel (like the one in the bottom picture), and next month I should order a set of knockoff Magpul SGA furniture.

That SPAS looks rather nice with a proper stock.

Looks like a totally different gun. I like it.

Well, I was inspired by the foregrip. Sure, the SPAS folding stock is iconic, but the angular look of the SGA stock oddly complements the general design of the gun.

Folding stocks can be iconic, but they can also hurt your shoulders. I should know having fired the Sterling. Even with the cheap shitty ammunition we were issued with the recoil was pretty horrible.

Just call it "The Annihilator".

The article's right. The Thompson is likely the best subgun ever built. Hard hitting, accurate, and fast firing it dropped tons of enemies across no less than THREE theatres of war in WW 2 alone. While the Papasha was cruder, easier to make and widely fielded by the Soviets, the Thompson was just outright better.

I don't think there's been a subgun made yet that beats it outright in sheer effectiveness.

But the PPSH has more DPS.

You can't argue with DPS.

If you can HIT HIM. The Papasha is certainly not reliable in that regards.

Yeah but DPS tho.

Plus I dunno about best. Like the Tommy Gun is cool and all but unless we're still in 1943 I'd go for like a UMP or maybe one of those newer PP-19s

I'd take a Tommy Gun over a UMP any day. Less Heckler & Kochsucker failures to deal with. Hell, gun down the HK folks WITH a Tommy Gun! (And There Was Much Rejoicing.)

At least the Thompson doesn't have the risk of the barrel melting or seizing up on me unlike an XM8 or G36...

edited 29th Jan '15 7:08:51 PM by MajorTom

Now now, the only part of the XM 8 that melted was the part in direct contact with the shooter's body.

Wait, that's no better.

George Macdonald Fraser briefly carried a Thompson in Burma, as recorded in his excellent memoirs, Quartered Safe Out Here. He was assigned the gun as a section second-in-command and absolutely hated it, since he was much better as a rifleman, and took the first chance he had to ditch it in a stream and grab a recovered SMLE rifle.

It's just down to individual experience, I'd think; certainly there were no shortage of Brits who loved it. Fraser just happened not to be one of them. (Interestingly, he had a run-in with a wounded Japanese when he was tired and careless and walked into a hut without making sure it was empty first. The Japanese soldier in the corner raised his rifle, but Fraser was faster on the draw with his Enfield.)

Late model Thompsons were certainly pretty good pieces for what they did. There were other SMG's that had a long life as well and not all of them were chambered in .45 ACP.

Given the common effective ranges of most of the sub-guns the Thompson has the shorter end of the stick in that regard with even the M3 Grease Gun having a longer effective range by about 40m. Also many of it's 9mm contemporaries not only had longer effective ranges but also saw long life through many conflicts.

Really most of the solid SMG's of that era pretty much all fall under the same general measurement.

edited 29th Jan '15 8:59:02 PM by TuefelHundenIV