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asdfr Since: Jul, 2013
#45751: Apr 4th 2018 at 12:11:05 PM

Anyone wishes that the final battle in CF is Ragna transforming into the Black Beast and fights Susano'o? As we know, Susano'o is basically 100% Hakumen who effortlessly defeats 5 characters at once and 100% Hakumen could take on the Black Beast in the past. So we recreate that scenario but the role is reversed.

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#45752: Apr 4th 2018 at 12:31:58 PM

I wished we'd have Black Beast Ragna since CS.

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#45753: Apr 4th 2018 at 2:04:42 PM

[up][up] A scenario like that basically happened. Ragna pushed the Azure Grimoire to it's absolute limit, and was as close he possibly got to going full Black Beast. Hence why it starts corrupting him faster when he's talking to Amane. Susanoo was even surprised because Ragna almost destroyed his body doing that.

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asdfr Since: Jul, 2013
#45754: Apr 5th 2018 at 3:17:47 AM

One of main point of plot is Ragna should prevent himself from becoming the Black Beast so.....although in his CS bad ending Ragna who slowly turns into Black Beast fights Jin and it's represented as U. Ragna with permanent 100% Heat instead...

Well Ragna did push Azure Grimoire to its limits by unlocking Idea Engine....but I guess it's gameplay's fault for not showing how's its power actually....(seriously...still Normal Ragna vs Normal Susano'o, not even using Unlimited Nine and Izanami either...).

I wonder tho how it will be if they made unlocked Idea Engine Ragna in gameplay specifically for final Susano'o fight...possibly Unlimited Ragna but always 100% Heat like his bad ending vs Jin in CS, and possibly more bluish Black Beast attacks and/or aura as he's using full Azure power too? Lemme know if other things should be added to him. Plus add a time limit in that boss battle; Ragna's body can be destroyed, if time's up then....voila, bad ending! (Still 2 rounds).

Speaking of that I wonder what they should do for Unlimited Susano'o as story mode Final Boss, ofc....because Unlimiteds don't really care about balance, what about:

  • 20,000 health.
  • All seals are unlocked from beginning, though only at level 1.
  • Using Drive moves upgrade their level as usual.
  • All moves have max. lv. 3 including moves like Towering Flame, Inevitable Calamity, Splintering Thrust (aka Godpress), and Blade of Judgement.
  • At higher levels Towering Flame will create a wave of 3 flames like U. Jin's 6D.
  • At higher levels Godpress has better startup and will act like heatless Distortion like U. Hazama's Bloody Fangs (Normal Susan's one has 50 Heat Distortion-like damage but is hard to connect, so possibly make Unlimited one's damage 100 Heat Distortion-like).
  • At higher levels Inevitable Calamity will pull enemy towards you and stagger them after last hit.
  • At higher levels Blade of Judgement wallbounces outside Counter.
  • Collapsing Resentment can be used outside OD and the effect becomes increasing all seals levels by 1 (Instantly to level 3 when used in OD). After all seals are level 3, the effect becomes giving him guard-point in all his attacks (In nod to U. Nine's Heliodor and U. Izanami's permanent Ribcage, both are 2 godly girls of BB) for a while.
  • All speed is increased.
  • Gradual Heat gain.
  • Other buffs/additions to make fighting him truly feels like fighting god; like 2A plus on block low, etc (Or suggest a better one than above).

Arcsys plz make this happen...add Unlimiteds, dubs, cuz they after late CF released finally added Jubei w/o Extend.

edited 5th Apr '18 3:48:20 AM by asdfr

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#45755: Apr 5th 2018 at 3:42:44 AM

[up]Ultimately, the series is limited by the assets created for core gameplay. The spritework process is too time consuming and expensive to make story only assets. It's not like 3D fighters like Tekken where the engine allowed for Unlimited Heihachi, True Devil Kazuya, Shin Akuma, and all the various UN and Mishima Zaibatsu troops

I do definitely agree that the lack of Unlimited forms in CF hurt alot of dramatic scenes. All the Es fights, the Nine and Izanami fights and the Climax with Ragna and Naoto fighting plus the final battle really needed Unlimited forms. It's a shame they likely won't be added. It's been a year and a half, and Team BB already have Cross Tag Battle in the works.

Also, Unlimited Susanoo needs to have an exclusive super that's a homage to another game. So something like Seraphic Wing or Gamma Ray. Maybe even Misogi

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MightyKombat Since: Jan, 2001
#45756: Apr 5th 2018 at 4:17:13 AM

Give him a version of the last bit of his Astral that he starts off at low health but gets hyper armour as he charges it up. You then have to whittle his health and barrier gauge before he brings the sword down and instakills you. In other worlds its basically Barbatos' World Destroyer.

And give him the mouth beam as a standard super or even standard move.

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#45757: Apr 5th 2018 at 4:41:51 AM

Also give him the Raging Demon or G-End as one of his distortions.

asdfr Since: Jul, 2013
#45758: Apr 5th 2018 at 10:31:22 PM

[up][up][up] OK...So for CF rn, permanent 100% Heat U. Ragna for unlocked Idea Engine Ragna that is. probably the likes of those Tekken 7 bosses can be implemented if BB goes Unreal Engine like GG and DBFZ....actually GG: Xrd is a 3D game but looks like 2D; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhGjCzxJV3E&t=1s

I don't think all of Es fights needed Unlimiteds....Arcsys needs to show how powerful Es is compared to ordinary fighters (Naoto, Makoto, etc.) outside Unlimited....I still think U. Es is needed for her climatic Susano'o fight to show she wasn't playing around. Same with Nine and Izanami...only their climatic fights. And vs Naoto one needs Unlimited for one reason.... Even before Ragna going berserk, both Ragna and Hazama activates Blaz Blue before their fights, so Ragna vs Hazama one also needs Unlimited.

Sadly other new Unlimiteds in CF also doesn't get any new Distortions...I wanted Terumi stomp exclusive Distortion for U. Nine (but with much higher damage cuz dem heels, replace snake kick with fire kick), and Take-Mikazuchi's beginning sword spam as U. Izanami's exclusive Distortion...

But if homage still accepted I can implement Seraphic Wing as the new effect of Collapsing Resentment after all seals are lv. 3 (being same roar but unleashes Seraphic Wing-esque waves). Then I will move the guard-point buff as his OD effect instead. Mouth beam as non-super is neat tho...like U. Noel's special move Thor (If non-seal specials are allowed). And it's basically Gamma Ray if you haven't had any unlocked seals (his special move barrage Distortion).

Well anything to make U. Susano'o really godly and hardest Unlimited boss...maybe yeah add Shun Goku Satsu as one of Unlimited exclusive Distortion. And while we're at it...I also want Susano'o Astral's red effects to be replaced with Shun Goku Satsu hit effect-like.

edited 5th Apr '18 10:40:20 PM by asdfr

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#45760: Apr 17th 2018 at 8:26:43 AM

Random question:

Did Litchi cure herself of her Boundary infection? I think she did find a way to cure Lotte / Arakune (and by default, cure herself), but by that point he'd already decided he wasn't worth saving (Or something like that. I admit, my knowledge of plot details in CF are very sparse, especially when it comes to the overall path of most characters stories).

So yeah, not totally clear on that. Also wondering if she'd still be able to fight in she needed to, or if she'd one on that front?

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#45761: Apr 17th 2018 at 9:20:51 AM

According to her Arcade End which carried over into the Story Mode, she found a cure for him which should be applicable for her too. He just didn't want to get cured. We're still not quite sure how much she applied to herself afterwards. But from the look of her face in the ending at least, she felt a bit more content after what happened, implying that she managed to move on.

Whether she'll still be able to fight or not, I think that will depend on whether Mori wants to use her again (I think not), he'll pull whatever plot convenience that will enable her to fight again (yes, he can pull the same to Jin, even if he stated that Jin couldn't fight anymore, if fan demand is high, he WILL get back to the frontline if he has to). If she won't fight again, he'll just say she fully administered the cure, rendering her unable to fight. If she will fight again, he'll just say she only partially administered the cure, enough that she will still be able to fight but not endangering herself too much.

But seriously, though, considering how much 'popularity-driven' the show is, I'd be surprised if Mori considered Litchi's story ending there. I don't think he'd want to revisit the 'cure for Kaka clan's aging problem' thing. There won't be enough demand.

If she managed to top the popularity poll or even score a respectable score or at the very least get included in this first batch of BBCTAG, I'm eating my own h— NOPE NOPE NOPE. NOT EVEN A HAMBURGER.

edited 17th Apr '18 9:26:55 AM by ChrisX

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#45762: Apr 17th 2018 at 6:14:22 PM

Concerning popularity, I wouldn't take the recent popularity poll too seriously, Mori even said the results were skewed on an Arc Nama stream.

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#45763: Apr 17th 2018 at 6:33:08 PM

I wasn't just taking account to the current one, but the overall polls held so far. Skewed or not, it's always going to be the same, if we read from the patterns of the previous polls (and the Japanese market taste, weird as it is).

edited 17th Apr '18 6:39:44 PM by ChrisX

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#45764: Apr 19th 2018 at 6:16:07 PM

Blazblue Central Fiction Material Collection came out today, here's a a ton of concept art, I think this is the first time we actually get to see Ada's face.

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#45765: Apr 19th 2018 at 6:20:25 PM

I genuinely laughed when they had Makoto look like flat chested and showing Tager's manboobs instead.

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#45766: Apr 21st 2018 at 5:39:23 AM

Mori interview from BBCFMC which looks back at Blazblue up to this point and what he plans to do with it in the future.

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#45767: Apr 21st 2018 at 8:09:39 AM

>Mori implies BBCTB will have important canon info

Oh you MOTHER FU-

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#45768: Apr 21st 2018 at 8:37:16 AM

at least he said it won't be AS important and that's it's a what-if story

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#45769: Apr 21st 2018 at 9:02:18 AM

Also apparently Linhua is more powerful than she appears. And here i thought she was gonna forever be a meme....

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#45770: Apr 21st 2018 at 9:35:50 AM

I guess she didn't take her just completely failing to do anything to Tager that well.

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#45772: Apr 21st 2018 at 11:41:24 AM

She once tried to defend Litchi from Tager with predictable results.

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asdfr Since: Jul, 2013
#45773: Apr 22nd 2018 at 3:02:50 AM

Just found recently there that Mori actually didn't want to bring back Nu or Lambda, but as usual....dying characters that has fans had to be brought back and skews the plot.

Just make them stay playable but don't make them appear again in main story (maybe only in non-canon scenarios like gag reels or bad ending, or flashback stories like CP's sector seven).

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: Jun, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#45774: Apr 22nd 2018 at 7:11:40 AM

He said he didn't want characters around just for the sake of being playable.

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HallowHawk Since: Feb, 2013
#45775: Apr 24th 2018 at 8:25:11 AM

I remember that there's a new Blazblue wiki as the original one became a flame war battlefield over translations. Can anyone please provide a link?


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