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joeyjojo Happy New Year! from South Sydney: go the bunnies! Since: Jan, 2001
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#8026: Sep 16th 2014 at 6:53:20 PM

Of course! It's the whole concept of insurance.

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#8027: Sep 16th 2014 at 6:55:35 PM

  • watches my car insurance eat into my monthly earnings*

Come on, somebody hit me so I can get a new windshield....:<

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#8028: Sep 17th 2014 at 3:37:16 AM

Every situation that a non-profit could earn money in, is listed on the 501(c)(3).
And where can I find the relevant information? The IRS site seems rather byzantine and full of confusing legal terminology to an uninitiated layman like me.

edited 17th Sep '14 3:37:49 AM by MarqFJA

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#8029: Sep 17th 2014 at 3:46:59 PM

Test

Here's the byzantine info Here's some simplified info If a nonprof has stocks that can produce dividends for the non-prof, those gains must stay with the non-prof. It's a violation of federal law to give proceeds of a non-profits gains to themselves or other directors. A director who possesses a lot of stock related in a for-gains style (getting dividends and selling for alpha, instead of using said stock as a voting/management tool in the aforementioned corporation) A lot of this isn't in the books, but if any outside party feels your ties with the stocks are not for the benefit of the non-profit, a "Conflict of Interest" may arise and the IRS will come after you.

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#8030: Sep 17th 2014 at 6:28:33 PM

Is there anywhere I can go to get info on any recent developments with TV Tropes?

CrystalGlacia from at least we're not detroit Since: May, 2009
#8031: Sep 17th 2014 at 7:17:40 PM

About what part of TV Tropes? If the wiki, the Wiki Talk subforum is probably a good place to start.

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BaconManiac5000 Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
#8032: Sep 17th 2014 at 8:11:59 PM

Are they ever going to replace "tropies" with anything?

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GAP Formerly G.G. from Who Knows? Since: May, 2011 Relationship Status: Holding out for a hero
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#8033: Sep 20th 2014 at 12:08:19 AM

1. What would be a good example of an Ad Hominem attack? 'You are the perfect example of X as you do the exact things that Y had been talking about'

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#8034: Sep 20th 2014 at 12:12:12 AM

Is that a question? Your second sentence is completely disconnected from the first.

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#8035: Sep 20th 2014 at 8:47:11 AM

Sorry about that I was going to make this two questions..I could reedit and try again with that.

1. What would be a good example of an Ad Hominem attack?

2. What do you call this attack? 'You are the perfect example of X as you do the exact things that Y had been talking about'

edited 20th Sep '14 8:48:14 AM by GAP

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CrystalGlacia from at least we're not detroit Since: May, 2009
#8036: Sep 20th 2014 at 9:20:49 AM

An ad hominem attack is any attack that targets an unrelated aspect of the person rather than their argument. Ex:

Alice: "Marijuana should be legalized!"

Bob: "You cheated on your husband, so who gives a shit about what you have to say?"

As for your second, I think we need more detail, like what 'you' and the speaker are arguing about. An 'attack' in this context would be a type of logical fallacy, which occur when someone is trying to present an argument.

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Sixthhokage1 Since: Feb, 2013
#8037: Sep 20th 2014 at 10:53:59 AM

An ad hominem could be related to the argument

Alice: "Marijuana should be legalized!"

Bob: "You just want it legalized so you can get high."

RatherRandomRachel "Just as planned." from Somewhere underground. Since: Sep, 2013
"Just as planned."
#8038: Sep 20th 2014 at 11:41:29 AM

There's four basic forms of it.

First, the basic sort. This is generally me just throwing an insult for something said. Say for example you want to have LSD legalized, and I only retorn with 'You're a bastard', that's ad hominem in its basic form.

Then there's the circumstantial sort, which relates to what you are as a direct attack. As an example, if I say you only want to make LSD legal because you're a pharmacist and chemist who'd profit from LSD being legal, that's circumstantial because of how it's a personal attack based on what you are. This one can be a very grey area because what's bought up may have to be considered for the argument - a murderer saying that cooking up humans should be made legal may well be the classic example of where it can be accepted as not a fallacy.

Then there's poisoning the well which is in essence where I attack everything based on something about you. Say for example you voice concerns about how those who are gay are treated in society due to what you've seen, and I lash out and say "have you not been ill with stress? Why should we listen?", I am poisoning the well because I am suggesting we ignore what you say, even when you could well have made a very good point.

Then there's the simple Yet, you! form, where I attack you based on perceived hypocrisy which often is pointless because of what it is. Say you point out that smoking has risks related to cancer and heart health, and I say 'Yet, you smoke!', I am doing it because you've likely made a good point and I am doing a personal attack, and you may be trying to stop anyway.

There's also a related one which is Style over Substance where I attack the style of what you said, rather than the core argument, which is often petty and hated because of what it does.

Also, the second sounds like Argumentum ad verecundiam, or appeal to authority. Where basically you are saying because somebody else said something, they have to be right.

edited 20th Sep '14 12:07:46 PM by RatherRandomRachel

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#8039: Sep 20th 2014 at 11:46:06 AM

Only sometimes. That's called a "circumstantial ad hominem." It mentions the point in contention but doesn't address the argument being made; it is still attacking the person making it rather than their argument.

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edited 20th Sep '14 11:53:19 AM by Madrugada

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#8040: Sep 20th 2014 at 11:48:32 AM

[up]Don't worry, already got there - just trying to refine my wording.

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#8041: Sep 20th 2014 at 1:45:24 PM

What are the main differences between an agent and a manager for an actor/singer/musician/any other entertainment- or sports-industry professional performer? And are there other occupations that provide similarly important and personalnote  support to such performers?

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RatherRandomRachel "Just as planned." from Somewhere underground. Since: Sep, 2013
"Just as planned."
#8042: Sep 20th 2014 at 2:10:18 PM

An agent is the one who finds out projects an entertainer can do - for example films for actors, and can help singers and instrument players find bands, and also negotiate those opportunities when it comes to contracts and terms on them. A manager is the one to do things like book and confirm flights, do longer term plans and often many other smaller parts the agent doesn't do.

One occupation which has that sort of support is certain temporary work agencies who do a similar structure for those quite highly in demand - you get the agent who will organize where you go to as a group, then a manager who'll negotiate with the company on other parts, often day-to-day, and communicate between that team and the company who hired the.

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TParadox Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: The captain of her heart
#8043: Sep 20th 2014 at 2:16:04 PM

I think that an "agent" just books gigs on behalf of the band, while a "manager" is more of a boss to them, dictating how they express their brand through off-stage behavior and what songs they perform.

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MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#8044: Sep 20th 2014 at 2:46:26 PM

And the two jobs can theoretically be done by one person, right? Are there any real-life examples of such people? Speaking of which, I find it odd that we rarely if ever hear about the agents/managers of world-famous celebrities.

and can help singers and instrument players find bands
And if the agent is working for a band of singers/musicians in the first place?

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#8046: Sep 22nd 2014 at 7:19:05 PM

What's the term for a statement (not a question) that doesn't expect a response? Or rather, something that would normally be expected to garner a response, but in this case isn't meant for a response?

Basicalliy, a rhetorical question but not actually a question.

joeyjojo Happy New Year! from South Sydney: go the bunnies! Since: Jan, 2001
Happy New Year!
#8047: Sep 22nd 2014 at 7:22:44 PM

I think it's just a rhetorical statement. A statement to which no reply is expected.

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MarqFJA The Cosmopolitan Fictioneer from Deserts of the Middle East (Before Recorded History) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#8048: Sep 26th 2014 at 10:12:20 AM

What do you call it when you apply the Expy treatment to a whole work, setting elements and all, rather than to one or more specific characters?

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#8049: Sep 26th 2014 at 10:16:35 AM

Whole-Plot Reference or Serial Numbers Filed Off.

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#8050: Sep 26th 2014 at 12:58:18 PM

Magnets. How do they work?

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