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kegisak Element of Class Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
Element of Class
#42051: Jun 24th 2015 at 5:31:21 PM

And because they don't have as good prolonged teamfight as MF?

Well, Tristana does as long as she can keep good backline, but her AOE isn't as good as M Fs, so it's a tradeoff there.

Apparantly I should have been more clear; MF is an excellent teamfighter. She has mobility for positioning, she has AOE damage, she can hit the backline, she reduces heals... she's a crazy good teamfighter.

Yeah, there are other good teamfighters like Sivir or Graves, but both of them are more focused into other areas as well. Graves is good when enemies are clustered together because of burst, and is good over prolonged fights only because of his passive. MF lacks the burst, but she has much more consistent damage.

Sivir excels at pushing and engaging fights, but MF is better once you're in there.

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ChrisX ..... from ..... Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Singularity
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#42052: Jun 24th 2015 at 6:39:59 PM

So... Overshadowed by Awesome does not fit on MF? Because I've been itching to remove that from her page...

Watchtower Since: Jul, 2010
#42053: Jun 24th 2015 at 7:49:05 PM

Personally I wouldn't try to fit meta-related tropes in the first place. If only because the meta is meant to be more fluid than that.

Tahm Kench's kit is pretty interesting, especially the different ways his Devour affects people and his two-man teleport ult. However, the best thing about him is his overall design. Satan walks among us, and he's a Fat Sweaty Southern Catfish in a Brown Suit. Absolutely fantastic.

HazzyHaz Slice and Dice Since: Oct, 2011
Slice and Dice
#42054: Jun 24th 2015 at 7:53:52 PM

Yeah, that. Graves was pretty low-tier for like 2 or 3 years until he became a real contested pick.

MightyMatilda Mr. Clueless from New Jersey, USA Since: Jan, 2015
Mr. Clueless
#42055: Jun 24th 2015 at 9:44:01 PM

I heard that at one time, Cho'Gath could grow so that when he stood near an ally, the enemy couldn't click on that ally. Riot decided to base an entire Champion around that.

Jokes aside, Devour alone makes him way more interesting than Ekko, who I found slightly dull.

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Lanceleoghauni Cyborg Helmsman from Z or R Twice Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In my bunk
#42056: Jun 24th 2015 at 11:32:32 PM

looking through the old champion judgements, I am really, REALLY sad they didn't do one for teemo before they stopped doing them.

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Tatsumar Since: Mar, 2011
#42057: Jun 25th 2015 at 5:56:04 AM

Currently Tahm is busted atm on the PBE.

There's a bug where he can eat his teammate from anywhere on the map, making him a walking teleport on W cooldown.

also this is the new leona meta

edited 25th Jun '15 5:58:12 AM by Tatsumar

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MightyMatilda Mr. Clueless from New Jersey, USA Since: Jan, 2015
Mr. Clueless
#42058: Jun 25th 2015 at 6:26:02 AM

I don't see anything unusual about that build. She's a supportive Tank who can still benefit from a little bit of AD. Right?

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Aszur A nice butterfly from Pagliacci's Since: Apr, 2014 Relationship Status: Don't hug me; I'm scared
A nice butterfly
#42060: Jun 25th 2015 at 9:51:07 AM

Hats, like words, have to be carefully used. Sometimes, one alone will suffice whereas other boastful thousands will serve in many other situations.

Tahm Kench's opportunity and fancy hat is just right.

It has always been the prerogative of children and half-wits to point out that the emperor has no clothes
OrangeSpider Must Keep The Web Intact from Ursalia Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: On the prowl
Must Keep The Web Intact
#42061: Jun 25th 2015 at 8:10:13 PM

My new pet project is to play support Pool Party Zac with a red chroma AD Fizz. Yes.

Edit: Was expecting this as soon as I saw the hat. Internet did not disappoint.

edited 25th Jun '15 8:15:46 PM by OrangeSpider

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QuestionMarc Since: Oct, 2011 Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
#42062: Jun 28th 2015 at 1:54:26 PM

[up] M'carry.

In other news, I have tried the Runeguard smite augment on Viktor (for science).

It blows, don't get it. Well, that's kinda harsh, I made it to 16 kills but Runeguard is an inferior Lich Bane. If you do get it on Viktor (for some reasons), do not rush it. You want your damage first, fluff later. Even Lich bane is usually later on the build sequence.

Pros of the build:

  • Easier access to blue.
  • Can help jungle start on bigger creep.
  • Objective control + more damage on creeps (tho you'll still need a tank for the blue unless you are fed).
  • Assured siege minion with no stress.
  • You can put a special effect on Smite. I tried Challenging, but I think the sustain one is superior. Challenging was so-so, I didn't really notice the 20% damage reduction or the true damage.

Cons:

  • Takes valuable gold and item space. Item slot is already scarce for Viktor, so it can hurt late game, and gold should be diverted to AP as much as possible.
  • Summoner spell taken for smite instead of barrier, ignite or TP (or even ghost).
  • Viktor nukes teams, he generally should focus on that and rarely has the comfort of going after specific targets with Challenging (although Chilling augment might make it easier for him to kite).
  • Runeguard is numerically inferior to Lich Bane and the AOE does NOT compensate for the difference. Or rather, Viktor already has a way stronger waveclear.

So there you have it folks, the Runeguard on Viktor for science.

OrangeSpider Must Keep The Web Intact from Ursalia Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: On the prowl
Must Keep The Web Intact
#42063: Jul 5th 2015 at 8:48:55 AM

I had forgotten how fun Blitzcrank is to play. Thanks, coffee-induced desire to play League at 5 am! (I thought I had developped some level of tolerance to caffeine.lolno.Who needs sleep or rest before going to work anyways?)

I also had forgotten how horrible my positioning is on Blitz. Makes me die much more than usual, but i'm having too much fun spamming hooks and laughs to notice.

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Lanceleoghauni Cyborg Helmsman from Z or R Twice Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In my bunk
#42064: Jul 6th 2015 at 8:10:34 PM

Made me think of tatsumar and his Barateemo

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Tatsumar Since: Mar, 2011
#42065: Jul 7th 2015 at 10:50:45 AM

barateemo needs more of a push

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ChrisX ..... from ..... Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Singularity
VutherA Since: Jul, 2009
ChrisX ..... from ..... Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Singularity
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#42068: Jul 7th 2015 at 6:33:17 PM

If the profile is about to get shortened, I think this is one thing that benefits Gangplank: He looks more like a fierce, charismatic pirate that doesn't rule by just fear. His Bad Boss, 0% Approval Rating and tendencies to shoot his failing comrades have been removed.

Also apparently, MF is now both his rival and ally. Guess he's now indulging in Foe Yay after the Harrowing and defending Bilgewater together.

EDIT: Also, obligatory Xin Zhao-'I'll Make A Man Out Of You' reference:

This ratio was always a little goofy, so we're toning it down to make sure Xin Zhao players can strike with all the force of a raging fire without becoming unkillable in the process.

edited 7th Jul '15 7:03:09 PM by ChrisX

daltar The Maid from the fantasy of green. Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: All is for my lord
The Maid
#42069: Jul 7th 2015 at 7:38:31 PM

No Grievous Wounds on Miss Fortune 0/10 Rito. That was the fun thing about her, for your dueling to be golden when your enemy no longer lifesteals or you send that Fiddle, Vladimir or Aatrox to suck their finger weeping as their health goes down.

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ChrisX ..... from ..... Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Singularity
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#42070: Jul 7th 2015 at 7:48:45 PM

What else has Grievous Wounds? I think I have a feeling that Riot is removing that stat altogether, one by one. I remember there's this one item that causes Grievous Wounds, but no one buys that anymore...

I'm not quite that mad with the removal either. If your opponent has enough damage or crowd control in a duel, it makes Grievous Wounds a moot point. I mean, what's decreased lifesteal gonna do when your opponent just smashes through you via sheer damage and attack speed? Or stun you before you do all those and they deliver free hits that diminish your HP that they'll kill you before Grievous Wounds can take effect?

edited 7th Jul '15 7:52:14 PM by ChrisX

HazzyHaz Slice and Dice Since: Oct, 2011
Slice and Dice
#42071: Jul 7th 2015 at 7:57:33 PM

People buy Morellonomicon quite often, actually. Grievous wounds is also useful to gain an early advantage in trades when they pot up but your GW decreases the power of that. There were also some sustain tanks like swain, mundo, or WW, although thankfully they're not all too meta right now.

OrangeSpider Must Keep The Web Intact from Ursalia Since: Oct, 2010 Relationship Status: On the prowl
Must Keep The Web Intact
#42072: Jul 7th 2015 at 8:39:25 PM

The other Grievous Wounds item was Executioner's Calling, which was removed from the game, for better or worse.

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daltar The Maid from the fantasy of green. Since: Jul, 2009 Relationship Status: All is for my lord
The Maid
#42073: Jul 7th 2015 at 10:52:28 PM

Thing is that it made Miss a dueling powerhouse on the bot lane. Against an ADC that built any lifesteal or is being healed by their support or summoner Heal that was a Godsend and made trading with Miss Fortune a risky endeavor. It was just nice and a great niche for her to fill as the one ADC that could bring the pain to lifesteal or regen based enemies.

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Lanceleoghauni Cyborg Helmsman from Z or R Twice Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: In my bunk
#42074: Jul 7th 2015 at 11:05:53 PM

I have enough of a problem with lifesteal/spellvamp without losing literally the best tool against it. :c

Rito please. let me have counterplay instead of getting facerolled just because their AA's heal them obscene amounts.

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VincentQuill Elvenking from Dublin Since: Jan, 2013 Relationship Status: Sinking with my ship
Elvenking
#42075: Jul 8th 2015 at 4:53:23 AM

Yeah lifesteal can be really frustrating given the sheer damage AD Cs can pump out. It's awful when playing an assassin and you get the ADC down to like 100hp before they escape, and then five seconds later they're full health and back sieging your base.

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