The Military Thread

Weren't we in the Philippines fighting these guys back in the day? They made Black Jack Pershing famous or something. Persistent bastards, I'll give them credit for that.

edited 8th Oct '12 6:39:33 PM by HouraiRabbit

Wise Papa Smurf, corrupted by his own power. CAN NO LEADER GO UNTAINTED?!

There is a "tale" that Black Jack captured a bunch of them. Had them executed with bullets coated in pig fat, wrapped the bodies in pig skins and fileld the graves with pig guts and blood. They let one guy go to tell others what happened.

Pershing's behaviour, style of command, and actions in that particular era run counter to this story. I.E. just another tall tale spun by some Anti-Islam loon to encourage excessive violence.

Black Jack was not keen on sending the hordes of entrenched Muslim Philipinos to Allah by sending his soldiers in to dig them out at high cost.

edited 8th Oct '12 8:15:17 PM by TuefelHundenIV

Who watches the watchmen?

Black Jack was an Army General. Jacob H. Smith there was given the nickname The Monster was also army, but he got kicked out, not lauded. The pig skin BS is just that, BS made by idiots. There was a rebellion when the Philippines were US territory, that's why the M1911 was developed.

edited 8th Oct '12 8:03:40 PM by TairaMai

All night at the computer, cuz people ain't that great. I keep to myself so I won't be on The First 48

Bah your right. I was purusing 3 different articles and switching back to the post box. Pershing is Army. Did not know about the other guy though.

Also apparently Pershing was considered rather diplomatic and successful in dealing with locals when he had time to work with them.

edited 8th Oct '12 8:17:47 PM by TuefelHundenIV

Who watches the watchmen?

First Law of Counterinsurgency: do not piss off more people than you absolutely have to.

Charlie Stross's cheerful, optimistic predictions for 2017, part one of three.

From what I can see Perhing took that to heart. He also apparently took the time to understand and work with the locals.

Who watches the watchmen?

A lot of the "first wave" of US military men were...antagonistic, to say the least, to the locals. Just compare the Mac Arthur father and son, for example. His father isn't exactly seen in a good light (as military governor it got worse because he often clashes with Taft, who was the civilian governor and was looked at favorably by Filipinos), but the son (Douglas) is.

There's a new anime called Girls und Panzer (hence one of the fansubs adds some German words to their English subs) and in the first few minutes alone there is a Panzer III, a Panzer IV, a Type 95 (in bright yellow!), a M3 Lee (in pink!), and weirdly a Stu G III (in a combination of red/dark yellow/white/blue and full of banners similar to what samurai put on their backs). Mathilda II and Churchill are also mentioned.

edited 9th Oct '12 7:59:45 AM by entropy13

I'm reading this because it's interesting. I think. Whiskey, Tango, Foxtrot, over.

I know, I've read the Manga: I'm trying to find a fansub...

It's good to see some British Tanks for once!*

edited 9th Oct '12 8:08:43 AM by Greenmantle

Keep Rolling On

Girls Und Panzer? And this is different from Upotte!! how?

They Drive Tanks. World War II Tanks.

I watched all of Stratos4*

, so I should like this one.

I'll just drop this here.

edited 9th Oct '12 8:13:15 AM by Greenmantle

Keep Rolling On

It's unlike Upotte since they're not anthromorphications of tanks. For example, the first few minutes of the episode is actually "in the future" already as towards the end of the episode their school, hence the 21 students who took up "Tank-do", starts with a Panzer III that's in need of repair.

The British tanks, the Mathilda I Is (4 of them) and the lone Churchill (most of the tanks in the first ep, actually) only makes a brief appearance. As I've also said in the show's topic in the Anime section, I wonder when we'll see the T-34, M4 Sherman, and the Tiger (also mentioned in the first ep). Commie is the only group that have subbed it thus far, and their German member (not sure if it's their typesetter or encoder) added some German in it. V2 has less amount of German while the V1 subs are essentially an English/German hybrid. lol

edited 9th Oct '12 8:28:12 AM by entropy13

I'm reading this because it's interesting. I think. Whiskey, Tango, Foxtrot, over.

Just seen a few seconds, now it's DL'd. Low Budget, even by Anime standards, with plenty of Conspicuous CG. I'll watch it all later and see how it turns out.

edited 9th Oct '12 8:23:10 AM by Greenmantle

Keep Rolling On

I dunno about that tank girl one. Today after all is the first day that I had heard of it.

Nice of the CIA to honor Doctor Jones. That man is one of my heroes.

That Stratos 4 thing looks a lot like Upotte!! and Sky Girls. Could be worth a watch.

edited 9th Oct '12 8:54:50 AM by TamH70

re: Stratos 4 -

On the one hand: Is that a TSR-2?! On the other hand: But it's an anime!

I feel so conflicted.

edited 9th Oct '12 11:03:12 AM by pagad

With cannon shot and gun blast smash the alien. With laser beam and searing plasma scatter the alien to the stars.

OTC ATC, request deconfliction service...

'All he needs is for somebody to throw handgrenades at him for the rest of his life...'

Standby for deconflict, firing for effect.

My father-in-law went to a Medal Of Honor signing event this weekend. My wife brought back a book of quotes from all of the recipients (WWII-on), signed by the 55 of the 81 still-living recipients that were present for the event. My younger sister-in-law shook the prosthetic hand of one of them and thanked him for his service.

Happiness is zero-gee with a sinus cold.

Did it come off?

...

I'm a terrible person. I know.

'All he needs is for somebody to throw handgrenades at him for the rest of his life...'

I've always kind of wanted a prosthetic hand, so I could freak people out by doing stuff like that.

I'd like an eyepatch. Had one for a while. It suited me.

edited 9th Oct '12 12:49:19 PM by InverurieJones

'All he needs is for somebody to throw handgrenades at him for the rest of his life...'

We actually talked about that in the office yesterday. My roomate made the office aware that I'm blind in one eye, and everyone decided that I should wear an eyepatch.

YES.

'All he needs is for somebody to throw handgrenades at him for the rest of his life...'

mmm... No.

Really? Got the wrong shaped head, maybe? I can totally rock an eyepatch.

'All he needs is for somebody to throw handgrenades at him for the rest of his life...'

@pvtnum That sounds breathtakingly awesome!

"Psssh. Even if you could catch a miracle on a picture any person would probably delete it to make space for more porn." - Aszur

I would just rather not rock an eyepatch heh.